>Rockstar has said "FUCK YOU" to PC gamers > > So what? The vast majority of Console gamers have also said "FUCK YOU" to PC gamers. What's the big deal here?
>I agree. I don't see why they didn't include some kind of multiplayer >abilities in GTA3.. It was in their older titles!:/ but whatever. I >guess they'll just feed their competitors a little bit. > > Simple. They don't want jackasses like you to ruin the game.
>If Sony brought out a version of Counter-Strike that was playable >online with the PC version they'd have another customer instantly.. >me! That's the only thing keeping me on Windows. > You'll find that it'll be widely viewed nothing to get excited about compared to the rest of PS2 games like FFX 11 because most PS2 owners like myself don't like games like Counter-Strike and won't touch it.
>Sorry about all this USB mouse stuff...I don't own a PS2, and did not >know that you can just hook up a normal USB mouse. Anyway, USB mice >run around $40 nowadays, so I'm still not sure if it's >practical...plus, you are going to get a USB extention cable to use it >on a big screen TV. > > Wrong loser. You can buy non-Microsoft "USB" mouse for around $20.00 to $25.00 at places like WalMart. You can even buy PS/2 mice that come with a USB adapter for pretty much the same price.
>PCs and consoles are JUST DIFFERENT. A top of the line PC is generally >going to be more powerful, and give you better-looking graphics but >it's a totally different way of playing games. It doesn't make it more >fun, just a different kind of fun.
> Hate to break it to you but a lot of those "detailed 3D graphics out of my PC" you get are utter crap. Most of those graphics are so plastic/deformed-looking it's laughable. I get a real laugh out of PC gamers who spend $$$ on the latest video card but can't play the fucking games because the graphics these games uses makes them motion-sick.
>Nobody is going to pay $50 for a PS2 mouse just to play a $40 game > You can use a PC USB keyboard and mouse with the PS2. You might be able to even use one of those PS/2 keyboards people have lying around with one of those PS/2-USB keyboard adapter Radio Shack sells
>If I were in their shoes I wouldn't have dropped the price. Instead >I'd have launched a multi-million dollar ad campaign targeting why the >XBox is so much better and how the other consoles were slashing prices
in fear. Too late. > Wouldn't have worked anyway. While you Xboxer's were running your FUD Xbox ads, All Sony would have to do was run ads like the one for Grand Turismo 3 A-spec. Coolness doesn't begin to describe that work of art.
>It has nothing to do with your CD-RW drive. The problems are >manifested when you want to stick the burned CD into your car/crappy >discman/etc. > > Like I said, you've got a crappy drive that doesn't burn disks properly. Notice I didn't say your drive makes coasters. More than likely the designers of you drive took shortcuts they shouldn't have.
>And yes, xbox fans could really give a crap about EA. xbox is getting >more support from Sega than any other platform, and they make damn >good games. > That's because Sega found out that they can unload all those Dreamcast ports on you Xbox morons......
>MS wants everyone on the Xbox Live servers so this is possible. They >want players to be used to a familiar, easy to use interface and not >play with complicated pricing schemes and subscriptions. > > Yeah,right. Don't even think for one moment that Microsoft has *ANY* intention of letting EA use Microsoft's servers to host/create games that would include PS2/GameCube players. Microsoft's online scam is only for XBox games and don't you ever forget that.
>I've made pretty much the same observations in the past. The tricks >played against Bleem were no different from most of the ones played by >MS. Sony just have better luck in the courts. > Moron, other than lame-ass PC Gamers like yourself, who the hell actually gave a damn about Bleem? Certainly not the PS1/PS2 owners since they could *ALREADY* run their PS1 games. Bleem was a stupid idea and a fucking waste of money to boot.
>Major pushers of crappy CDRs include: Maxell, Fuji, Sony, Imation, and >Samsung. > > Sounds more like you've got a really crappy CDW/CDRW drive. I've *ALL* the brands you mentioned and have never run into a problem with any of them. Then again I didn't get my drive from some Fly-By-Night outfit selling them on the cheap via the WWW.
>This sounds wrong. The first result of the price drop will be a buying >spree for people who have lurked on the sidelines, undecided about >which game system to buy. I'm quite certain that Xbox sales will be >more than 33% faster after this price cut, so the retailers gain from >this. > > You talk like this is going to cause some sales spike of Xboxes. You couldn't be more wrong. If the PS2 was beating the crap out Xbox in terms of sales at $299.99, what do you think the PS2 is doing to do the XBox at $199.99? The XBox will soon be joining the Commodore CD32 as being one of the crappiest ideas ever concieved.
>Now is definitely a good time to be a gamer with all 3 >next-gen systems at $200. Too bad i just bought a Playstation 2 yesterday. > > What a bunch of bullshit. Only a PC Gamer would be *STUIPD* enough to recommend owning *3* next-gen systems. Only a Microsoft Stooge would make a suggestion like this. Go buy a XBox that doesn't have anything that you want for it so all your friends can laugh at you behind your back is what is really being said here.
>I predict there will definately be an Xbox2, although I don't think it >will be succesfull either. > > The current Xbox is *already* the Xbox2. The Xbox1 was something called MSX and that was a major flop too,especally in Japan.
>Xbox's long-term prospects will be decided during the next holiday >season. If the games are there and the online portion shows promising >results, the MS will keep pouring cash into it. They *really* want >into this market. > > Too bad for Microsoft that the market doesn't want them. If you think that the Xbox is going to be seeing a sudden rush of sale by X-mas forget it.
>If the X-Box is responsible for one thing, it's being the catalyst for >console prices to drop dramatically at a faster rate than previous >generations. > > Wrong. The Xbox had little or no real effect on the prices on console prices. That would go to the GameCube if in fact what you claiming for the Xbox actually happened. It didn't. What happened was that Microsoft tried dump a "product" that nobody wanted (The Xbox) into a market where it didn't fit into (The Console Game Market). Saying the Xbox X-Box is responsible for something is like saying the Commodore CD32 is responsible for something other than hasting the collaspe of Commodore...
>A lot of previously scheduled PS2-only games have been announcing >they're going to ship X-Box versions as well recently. Bioware's Star >Wars RPG will ship on X-Box up to 6 months before shipping for the PC. >A few of the X-Box-only games coming down the line should do well. > And like, who cares? Current PS2 owners won't give a damn, and the rumor that that the Xflop may be getting a port of a PS2 game instead of the bunch of ported Dreamcast games they are now getting won't convince very many people to run out to buy an Xbox. In fact I bet that Britney Spears dance game (which is a hell of a lot nicer than I thought it would be) for the PS2 will generate more PS2 sales than something like Bioware's Star Wars RPG will for the XBox.
>Still, Christopher M. Kelly, who was a privacy lawyer with the >Internet service Excite@Home, which is now defunct, says the seemingly >low number of users who actually read Yahoo's policy or considered >changing their options understated the effect on its reputation. > >"People will keep their e-mail addresses at Yahoo," he said, "but they >will just stop using them if they feel Yahoo doesn't take their >privacy seriously and doesn't protect them from spam." > And this says it all.
>Well, I believe this summer Nintendo is going to blow PS2 and Xbox out >of the water when they release Mario Sunshine, the new Zelda game, a >new Mario Party game, Wrestlemania, etc. > > If the crowd of people at the Electronics Boutique watching the Britney Spears dance game for the PS2 was any indication, you're missing the point of why the PS2 is so popular and sells so well. I thought the game was going to be crap, but it's actually pretty damn good. You had people in their 40's and 50's trying the game out with their grandkids.
>And anyone with any idea of the console market would realise you only >make the loss on consoles you sell (- stock) and that the whole basis >of the market is to lose money on the console to claw it back on the >games. But don't let that get in the way of your ms-bashing! > Too bad Sony proves you wrong. But since when did PC gamers like you *EVER* had a clue concering the console market? You people never did,otherwise you would've never jumped onboard the XBox bandwagon, which is/was nothing but a lame effort to bring crappy ports of crappy PC games to a market which had mostly abandoned the PC as a gaming platform.
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>may well be that everybody wins. (TransGaming has a long way to go >before they get the number of sponsors that would cause them to be >pledged to release their code changes, so this is a way of getting a >partial release. Which improves the possibility that eventually there >will be a full release.) > > HAHAHA. What a load of BS. TransGaming *NEVER* had any real intention to release their code changes, and it's to the WINE's project credit that they realized it and took steps to correct the problem. What you've got with TransGaming is basically a Windows shareware scam outfit. There were a lot of outfits like TransGaming during the heydays of the BBS that basically ran around promising the BBS Sysops a cut of every shareware package that was downloaded and registered if their bbs would carry their software. Somehow though, the BBS Sysops never really saw any money from the shareware outfits even though people were downloading the software from the bbs's. Any guesses as to why?
>WineX DOES contribute back. They contribute back after YOU contribute >to them by subscribing. > What a load of bullshit. I get the work I contributed to back after I pay you for it, while you pay nothing back in return? No wonder the WINE people told WineX and their supporters like you to take a hike.
>As an online vendor, I don't think it would be very easy to keep track >of the taxes in every municipality in the entire world, and pay the >precise amount of collected taxes per arbitrary time period, to an >arbitrary address in said country. > Then don't sell your product in the EU. They have every right to tell you how to operate within their turf. And you *ARE* playing on their turf. I like seeing the EU saying "Screw You" to people like you.
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>Rockstar has said "FUCK YOU" to PC gamers
>
>
So what? The vast majority of Console gamers have also said "FUCK YOU" to PC gamers. What's the big deal here?
>I agree. I don't see why they didn't include some kind of multiplayer :/ but whatever. I
>abilities in GTA3.. It was in their older titles!
>guess they'll just feed their competitors a little bit.
>
>
Simple. They don't want jackasses like you to ruin the game.
>If Sony brought out a version of Counter-Strike that was playable
>online with the PC version they'd have another customer instantly..
>me! That's the only thing keeping me on Windows.
>
You'll find that it'll be widely viewed nothing to get excited about compared to the rest of PS2 games like FFX 11 because most PS2 owners like myself don't like games like Counter-Strike and won't touch it.
>Sorry about all this USB mouse stuff...I don't own a PS2, and did not
>know that you can just hook up a normal USB mouse. Anyway, USB mice
>run around $40 nowadays, so I'm still not sure if it's
>practical...plus, you are going to get a USB extention cable to use it
>on a big screen TV.
>
>
Wrong loser. You can buy non-Microsoft "USB" mouse for around $20.00 to $25.00 at places like WalMart. You can even buy PS/2 mice that come with a USB adapter for pretty much the same price.
>PCs and consoles are JUST DIFFERENT. A top of the line PC is generally
>going to be more powerful, and give you better-looking graphics but
>it's a totally different way of playing games. It doesn't make it more
>fun, just a different kind of fun.
>
Hate to break it to you but a lot of those "detailed 3D graphics out of my PC" you get are utter crap. Most of those graphics are so plastic/deformed-looking it's laughable. I get a real laugh out of PC gamers who spend $$$ on the latest video card but can't play the fucking games because the graphics these games uses makes them motion-sick.
>Nobody is going to pay $50 for a PS2 mouse just to play a $40 game
>
You can use a PC USB keyboard and mouse with the PS2. You might be able to even use one of those PS/2 keyboards people have lying around with one of those PS/2-USB keyboard adapter Radio Shack sells
>How in the world could you play that with a console control?
>
Err...you can use a USB keyboard and mouse with the PS2.
>If I were in their shoes I wouldn't have dropped the price. Instead
>I'd have launched a multi-million dollar ad campaign targeting why the
>XBox is so much better and how the other consoles were slashing prices
in fear. Too late.
>
Wouldn't have worked anyway. While you Xboxer's were running your FUD Xbox ads, All Sony would have to do was run ads like the one for Grand Turismo 3 A-spec.
Coolness doesn't begin to describe that work of art.
>It has nothing to do with your CD-RW drive. The problems are
>manifested when you want to stick the burned CD into your car/crappy
>discman/etc.
>
>
Like I said, you've got a crappy drive that doesn't burn disks properly. Notice I didn't say your drive makes coasters. More than likely the designers of you drive took shortcuts they shouldn't have.
>And yes, xbox fans could really give a crap about EA. xbox is getting
>more support from Sega than any other platform, and they make damn
>good games.
>
That's because Sega found out that they can unload all those Dreamcast ports on you Xbox morons......
>MS wants everyone on the Xbox Live servers so this is possible. They
>want players to be used to a familiar, easy to use interface and not
>play with complicated pricing schemes and subscriptions.
>
>
Yeah,right. Don't even think for one moment that Microsoft has *ANY* intention of letting EA use Microsoft's servers to host/create games that would include PS2/GameCube players. Microsoft's online scam is only for XBox games and don't you ever forget that.
>I've made pretty much the same observations in the past. The tricks
>played against Bleem were no different from most of the ones played by
>MS. Sony just have better luck in the courts.
>
Moron, other than lame-ass PC Gamers like yourself, who the hell actually gave a damn about Bleem? Certainly not the PS1/PS2 owners since they could *ALREADY* run their PS1 games. Bleem was a stupid idea and a fucking waste of money to boot.
>Major pushers of crappy CDRs include: Maxell, Fuji, Sony, Imation, and
>Samsung.
>
>
Sounds more like you've got a really crappy CDW/CDRW drive. I've *ALL* the brands you mentioned and have never run into a problem with any of them. Then again I didn't get my drive from some Fly-By-Night outfit selling them on the cheap via the WWW.
>This sounds wrong. The first result of the price drop will be a buying
>spree for people who have lurked on the sidelines, undecided about
>which game system to buy. I'm quite certain that Xbox sales will be
>more than 33% faster after this price cut, so the retailers gain from
>this.
>
>
You talk like this is going to cause some sales spike of Xboxes. You couldn't be more wrong. If the PS2 was beating the crap out Xbox in terms of sales at $299.99, what do you think the PS2 is doing to do the XBox at $199.99? The XBox will soon be joining the Commodore CD32 as being one of the crappiest ideas ever concieved.
>Now is definitely a good time to be a gamer with all 3
>next-gen systems at $200. Too bad i just bought a Playstation 2 yesterday.
>
>
What a bunch of bullshit. Only a PC Gamer would be *STUIPD* enough to recommend owning *3* next-gen systems. Only a Microsoft Stooge would make a suggestion like this. Go buy a XBox that doesn't have anything that you want for it so all your friends can laugh at you behind your back is what is really being said here.
>I predict there will definately be an Xbox2, although I don't think it
>will be succesfull either.
>
>
The current Xbox is *already* the Xbox2. The Xbox1 was something called MSX and that was a major flop too,especally in Japan.
>Xbox's long-term prospects will be decided during the next holiday
>season. If the games are there and the online portion shows promising
>results, the MS will keep pouring cash into it. They *really* want
>into this market.
>
>
Too bad for Microsoft that the market doesn't want them. If you think that the Xbox is going to be seeing a sudden rush of sale by X-mas forget it.
>If the X-Box is responsible for one thing, it's being the catalyst for
>console prices to drop dramatically at a faster rate than previous
>generations.
>
>
Wrong. The Xbox had little or no real effect on the prices on console prices. That would go to the GameCube if in fact what you claiming for the Xbox actually happened. It didn't. What happened was that Microsoft tried dump a "product" that nobody wanted (The Xbox) into a market where it didn't fit into (The Console Game Market). Saying the Xbox X-Box is responsible for something is like saying the Commodore CD32 is responsible for something other than hasting the collaspe of Commodore...
>A lot of previously scheduled PS2-only games have been announcing
>they're going to ship X-Box versions as well recently. Bioware's Star
>Wars RPG will ship on X-Box up to 6 months before shipping for the PC.
>A few of the X-Box-only games coming down the line should do well.
>
And like, who cares? Current PS2 owners won't give a damn, and the rumor that that the Xflop may be getting a port of a PS2 game instead of the bunch of ported Dreamcast games they are now getting won't convince very many people to run out to buy an Xbox. In fact I bet that Britney Spears dance game (which is a hell of a lot nicer than I thought it would be) for the PS2 will generate more PS2 sales than something like Bioware's Star Wars RPG will for the XBox.
>Still, Christopher M. Kelly, who was a privacy lawyer with the
>Internet service Excite@Home, which is now defunct, says the seemingly
>low number of users who actually read Yahoo's policy or considered
>changing their options understated the effect on its reputation.
>
>"People will keep their e-mail addresses at Yahoo," he said, "but they
>will just stop using them if they feel Yahoo doesn't take their
>privacy seriously and doesn't protect them from spam."
>
And this says it all.
>Well, I believe this summer Nintendo is going to blow PS2 and Xbox out
>of the water when they release Mario Sunshine, the new Zelda game, a
>new Mario Party game, Wrestlemania, etc.
>
>
If the crowd of people at the Electronics Boutique watching the Britney Spears dance game for the PS2 was any indication, you're missing the point of why the PS2 is so popular and sells so well. I thought the game was going to be crap, but it's actually pretty damn good. You had people in their 40's and 50's trying the game out with their grandkids.
>And anyone with any idea of the console market would realise you only
>make the loss on consoles you sell (- stock) and that the whole basis
>of the market is to lose money on the console to claw it back on the
>games. But don't let that get in the way of your ms-bashing!
>
Too bad Sony proves you wrong. But since when did PC gamers like you *EVER* had a clue concering the console market? You people never did,otherwise you would've never jumped onboard the XBox bandwagon, which is/was nothing but a lame effort to bring crappy ports of crappy PC games to a market which had mostly abandoned the PC as a gaming platform.
>may well be that everybody wins. (TransGaming has a long way to go
>before they get the number of sponsors that would cause them to be
>pledged to release their code changes, so this is a way of getting a
>partial release. Which improves the possibility that eventually there
>will be a full release.)
>
>
HAHAHA. What a load of BS. TransGaming *NEVER* had any real intention to release their code changes, and it's to the WINE's project credit that they realized it and took steps to correct the problem. What you've got with TransGaming is basically a Windows shareware scam outfit. There were a lot of outfits like TransGaming during the heydays of the BBS that basically ran around promising the BBS Sysops a cut of every shareware package that was downloaded and registered if their bbs would carry their software. Somehow though, the BBS Sysops never really saw any money from the shareware outfits even though people were downloading the software from the bbs's. Any guesses as to why?
>WineX DOES contribute back. They contribute back after YOU contribute
>to them by subscribing.
>
What a load of bullshit. I get the work I contributed to back after I pay you for it, while you pay nothing back in return? No wonder the WINE people told WineX and their supporters like you to take a hike.
>As an online vendor, I don't think it would be very easy to keep track
>of the taxes in every municipality in the entire world, and pay the
>precise amount of collected taxes per arbitrary time period, to an
>arbitrary address in said country.
>
Then don't sell your product in the EU. They have every right to tell you how to operate within their turf. And you *ARE* playing on their turf. I like seeing the EU saying "Screw You" to people like you.