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GTA3: Vice City Announced

broller writes "According to IGN.com, Rockstar Games announced today that GTA3:Vice City, the next version of Grand Theft Auto will be released in October. GTA3 was released "October 2001 and has rapidly become the fastest selling, highest grossing game for PlayStation(R)2." The PC version of GTA3 hit stores today."

174 comments

  1. And it hit the warez sites yesterday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting


    And it hit the warez sites yesterday.
    Deviance won the race.

    1. Re:And it hit the warez sites yesterday by Zeddicus_Z · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Article refers to a GTA3 addon pack. The 'warez' version that just came out is the PC version of original GTA3.

      Incidentally, three groups released it. None managed to do a proper release, as all three cracks included on the iso are buggy. Deviance has re-packed one thats *supposed* to work, but doesn't. You can't use savegame after more than four minutes of play.

      So, SafeDisc3 is still secure. Just. Kinda. Maybe.

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    2. Re:And it hit the warez sites yesterday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I heard that there is a bug with the crack (or crack fix) and Windows XP. You need to get some update and then it works. I saw something about it in some GTA3 channel on irc.criten.net (I don't think that's even right.. my memory is foggy.. too many drugs :/)

    3. Re:And it hit the warez sites yesterday by chabotc · · Score: 2

      Yea, deviance had a bad crack on the original release, the released a -CRACKFIX version (30 minutes after the original release) , which was obviously on to much crack to do any good.

      Then 20 minutes later they released the CRACKFIX-REPACK, which does work correctly..

      I gues you are right, safedisc3 is still secure, for atleast 60 minutes worth of hacking ;-) (or: now that they went thru the process once, they will easely do it in half the time)

      Don't underestimate how smart some of the crackers of some of the warez groups are. Good ones are rare, but often highly gifted (the ones i knew were satelity programmers, compression specialists, etc) and often get big offers from agencies and game companies.. The main reason why they do not accept these job offers is because they know if they invent a great new protection scheme, its gonna get cracked within days, and they will have to start developing the next revission right away ;-)

  2. Great stuff! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Great! a sequal to the most innovative game of last year! Can't wait.

  3. Very cool game by qurob · · Score: 1


    I liked it. I'd love for it to be a giant multiplayer frag fest, though

    1. Re:Very cool game by brainboyz · · Score: 1

      That'd be really nice. Can you imagine making your own gang? cars and all? Add some AI to make missions interact with other players (not necessarily in your gang) and you'd have one heck of an addicting game, moreso than it is now.

    2. Re:Very cool game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, release date of October 22nd? Of this year? In game console speak doesn't that mean 2nd quarter 2003...who are they kidding
      ??? Unless of course they are just revamping gta3 with new levels, characters, story, etc. etc. Something I wish Rare would have done with Goldeneye64...sniff...sniff.

    3. Re:Very cool game by Te1waz · · Score: 1

      B?gger creating your own gang. I want my own Club in Redlight - just call me Toni...

      I'd like to see more accurate hand to hand fighting and use of the baseball bat and maybe a bit of knifing... Imagine having some Virtua Fighter type moves in the game.

      It'd also be cool to have a few more indoor areas. The city was really great except for lack of Shopping malls etc to go mad in. The underground was the only place you could organise a siege against the law.

      Another thing that annoyed me was the way the cops came after you if you slapped down a gang member after he started it. There I was, minding my own business (I was sneaking up on that guy in china town in order to assasinate him, but that's beside the point) and along comes some jumped up chinese mafia member who tries to give me plastic surgery with a baseball bat. I slap him down and suddenly the cops are on my case... What gives man?

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    4. Re:Very cool game by BenTheDewpendent · · Score: 1

      GTA3 was going to be Multi player upuntil a few weeks ago when the striped it out cause they said it felt rushed.

      Too bad i was gonna be all over that and get it but they took my multiplayer mode away so i couldnt run my friends over... :(

  4. Cool! by brainboyz · · Score: 2, Funny

    The next wave of whining and complaining from the politicians and "concerned parents" of America may commence now.

  5. Why not GTA4? by IRNI · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Kinda seems odd to come out with a new version of the game and keep the version number the same. Has GTA3 become what everyone associates with the Grand Theft Auto series and they don't want to chance having someone go "What is GTA4?". Seems sort of like Intel and their whole Pentium branding. Pent = 5. Yet they kept the name through the 6x86 line. It is odd that version numbers become the product's name eventually when the product really catches on.

    1. Re:Why not GTA4? by thaigan · · Score: 1

      I think you'll see GTA4 when the PS3 comes out. They seem to using that game as the tool to debut their new machine's capabilities.

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    2. Re:Why not GTA4? by aarona · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's still based on the GTA3 engine. This is kind of like an extra missions pack in a way. It will play as a stand alone game though. The GTA4 name I'm sure will be rolled out at some point in the next year or two but I would expect it to have some significant improvement to the game engine.

    3. Re:Why not GTA4? by thaigan · · Score: 1

      Whoops, I must've read your response with blurry eyes. I misread it as GT4 rather than GTA4. Please disregard my original reply. Sorry;-)

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    4. Re:Why not GTA4? by wilhelm · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you had actually happened to read the article, you would realize that the game is to be called "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City". The Slash editors and the submitter both didn't apparently read it either, so you're in good company.

    5. Re:Why not GTA4? by batkiwi · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is essentially GTA3 in a new city.

      No new features (or very few), same engine, etc, just new content.

      If it was a PC game, it would be released as an addon-pack (just the content, no engine, you'd have to own the first one, sims style), but since that's not feasable (and barely possible without a LOT of forethought) on a console, they're releasing a "new" GTA3.

      Make sense?

    6. Re:Why not GTA4? by Gannoc · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Has GTA3 become what everyone associates with the Grand Theft Auto series and they don't want to chance having someone go "What is GTA4?"

      5 words: Super Street Fighter II Turbo

    7. Re:Why not GTA4? by arson1 · · Score: 1

      Go read the fucking article, it is not an addon-pack, therte will be new features and differnt game play. Here's the link, read it before you comment;

      http://wire.ign.com/articles/360/360238p1.html

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    8. Re:Why not GTA4? by colaboy · · Score: 1

      Actually, an add-on pack has been done for the Playstation (not PS2), and it did require the original game in order to play it. In fact, it was for the same game franchise, for the original GTA, and was called 'GTA London'. It was cheaper than a normal new game as well.

    9. Re:Why not GTA4? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok from reading the article its going to to be an addon pack.....

    10. Re:Why not GTA4? by MisterBlister · · Score: 1

      They actually did this same thing before, see "GTA: London" for the PC. Its basically an add-on pack for GTA3, in this case.

    11. Re:Why not GTA4? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5 words: Super Street Fighter II Turbo

      The later "turbo" editions of Street Fighter II were released because of all the hype that Rainbow Edition was getting.

      Quote from Gamefaqs.com: "Street Fighter II Rainbow Edition is not an official Capcom board technically speaking. Supposedly it is the innovation of a Taiwanese company that hacked the board and made some chips that would alter the game play. In a sense, it's a bootleg, and it was on account of this game that Street Fighter 2 Hyper Fighting was released."

      This game was aswesome, it was at my local arcade. It is fast as hell, Chun Li throws fireballs, Blanka throws sonic booms, there are random character changes, and all the moves can be done in the air. It is by far the best Street Fighter II, IMHO. If you played it, you would understand why Capcom decided to release a similar product.

    12. Re:Why not GTA4? by arson1 · · Score: 1
      Maybe you can't comprehend what you read then...

      ...announces Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, the follow-up to the global blockbuster...

      ...Vice City will surpass the unprecedented gameplay, cinematic graphics and immersive audio experience that gamers associate with Grand Theft Auto 3...

      ...more revolutionary gaming experience...

      Although it may appear to be a challenge to develop a game superior to Grand Theft Auto 3, our progress to date on Vice City makes me highly confident that we can deliver a truly innovative game

      Yeah, that sounds like an "Add-On" pack...
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    13. Re:Why not GTA4? by cancrman · · Score: 2

      Crikey kid. Calm down. The original poster said /if/ it was a PC game it would be an add on pack. It's not. It's a console game. We all know that.

      What he was saying is that the game will have minorly (if at all) upgraded graphics/sound/what not. Don't believe everything you read in a press release.

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    14. Re:Why not GTA4? by prator · · Score: 1

      9 more words: Street Fighter IIX Grand Master Challenge for Matching Service

      -prator

    15. Re:Why not GTA4? by arson1 · · Score: 1
      I was responding to the Anonymous Coward that said "ok from reading the article its going to to be an addon pack....."

      Maybe that was my first mistake.

      My point is, what leads you to believe that the game will have " minorly (if at all) upgraded graphics/sound/what no". Do you have some insider info, or perhaps a link to back these claims up?

      Sorry if I'm not paranoid enough to question press releases about something as trivial as a video game. :) If they say new gameplay, I tend to believe them.

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    16. Re:Why not GTA4? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alpha Beta Super Elite Uber Ultra Street Fighter II Turbo Special Event Championship Edition

      and still the same "hadoken"

    17. Re:Why not GTA4? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You cannot trademark (or whatever the proper term is) numbers. That's why "Pentium".

  6. Ok, so how much controversy wil this one generate? by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 1, Insightful

    They seem to sell more because of the sheer ofensiveness than actual gameplay (although it is pretty fun), but I doubt it would be half as popular without the protect the children freaks foaming at the mouth..etc

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  7. Arr, Matey! by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 3, Funny

    The PC version of GTA3 hit stores today.

    Is it out on KaZaa yet?

    Or is it a very clever worm *NAMED* GTA3?

    1. Re:Arr, Matey! by spezz · · Score: 1
      No no, it's really GTA3 and it's only 216k

    2. Re:Arr, Matey! by kpetruse · · Score: 1

      Yep, it's a very dangerous worm that has destroyed my work, my social life, my career, my love life.....

      Damned game, it's up there with the greats...CivII and Elite...

    3. Re:Arr, Matey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just buy it you cheap bastards.

  8. Come autumn! by Erik+K.+Veland · · Score: 1

    September: Jaguar
    October: GTA3: Vice City.

    Get this summer over with already!

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  9. Where I can find the linux version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody know if it will be release soon ?

    1. Re:Where I can find the linux version by L1nUx+h4x0r · · Score: 0

      Yeah, the Linux version is going to be released next week with a GPL'ed game engine running on the XFree4 architecture. Of course it's much better than the Windows version and can run with only 4MB of ram, and only takes 50k of harddrive space. If you don't want to buy it though, just ftp to their main site, ftp.rockstargames.com/gta3/linux or one of the mirrors (ftp.download.com/linux/gta3/ ftp.piratez.com/l1nux/gta3/, or others listed in the root of the main ftp site.)

      The mac version is also coming out next week.

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    2. Re:Where I can find the linux version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure if it will be released soon, but when it is,
      ALL YOUR BASE ARE (most certainly) BELONG TO US.

      Got Engrish?

  10. Oh. My. God. by defile · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The only thing I didn't like about playing GTA3 was that I knew it would end. That saddened me.

    I fear that I'm going to be reduced to a begging junkie sleeping outside of the store the night before it goes on sale.

    1. Re:Oh. My. God. by dangermouse · · Score: 1
      End? GTA3 does not end. I beat it months ago, and I'm still playing. Finally got around to getting the Borgnine Taxi; next up, ambulance bonuses!

      At some point I'll have to collect all those packages, too.

  11. Mainstream news sites... by Wind_Walker · · Score: 2, Interesting
    See, this is why I don't go to mainstream news sites for my video game news. Yes, I'm talking about you, Slashdot. You missed the most important thing of the announcement. And, frankly, because of all the anti-Microsoft vibes around here, I have no clue why you missed it:

    Grand Theft Auto is now a Sony Exclusive franchise

    That means that, despite hundreds of reports to the contrary, Grand Theft Auto 3 will not be coming out for the Xbox.

    1. Re:Mainstream news sites... by beddess · · Score: 4, Informative

      yep, you sure know what you're talking about.

      "Grand Theft Auto 3 and all future titles in the GTA franchise will be exclusive to PlayStation 2 until October 2004, SCEA announced today at its E3 press conference"

      here's the link

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    2. Re:Mainstream news sites... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha-ha... all you suckas who bought x-boxes must feel pretty stupid right now. E.A. pulls out, GTA people have pulled out, Square & RE people dissed you from the begining.... maybe Bungie will revolt and break-off... mmmm wouldn't that be great.

    3. Re:Mainstream news sites... by Clue4All · · Score: 0

      So? GTA is a game, the company that produces it can decide what systems it will be released for, if any. It's ONLY A GAME. Your implciations with Microsoft behavior are, quite frankly, ridiculous.

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    4. Re:Mainstream news sites... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're saying the PC version will only run on Sony VAIO computers?

    5. Re:Mainstream news sites... by PissingInTheWind · · Score: 1
      No, it's not "ONLY A GAME". It's a very, very popular game, it makes Sony sell a lot of PS2. I should know, I bought mine after renting one with GTA3 (and got hooked right away).

      Also, think about it: I offer you a pile of money so you won't spend money to make a port to another console. Instant profit. That's great too.

      Exclusive games are yet another weapon in the videogame war that is raging currently.

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    6. Re:Mainstream news sites... by iainl · · Score: 2

      Its worth noting that the actual quote from the head of Take Two is that Playstation 2 will be the only "Home Entertainment" machine that it will "enjoy" it on before October 2004. My interpretation is that we can still expect to see a PC port, just as we have for GTA3.

      And, of course, they can do an X-Box port as well, as long as no-one enjoys playing it - if it sucks it doesn't break the contract! ;-)

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    7. Re:Mainstream news sites... by Mika_Lindman · · Score: 1

      "You missed the most important thing of the announcement."

      Tomorrow on Slashdot : "Linux 2.5.3.4.65.2 release, and it's 0.003% better than Windows. And by the way, the world is going to end tomorrow."

      Lets prioritize things here..

    8. Re:Mainstream news sites... by brechin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Grand Theft Auto is now a Sony Exclusive franchise

      Umm... it's coming out for PC. It's running on Windows. It's not as anti-Microsoft as you'd like, it just proves that the Xbox wasn't worth the time MS spent on it.

    9. Re:Mainstream news sites... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, dumbshit, it came out on PC today.

    10. Re:Mainstream news sites... by xamel · · Score: 1

      Well, yah..I hate to tell you, but its NOT coming out for the Xbox...O-well, less plastic for the landfill...
      Check it out, on an XBox site, too......
      Well, no big deal. We wouldnt want another Atari/landfill issue, now would we ;)

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    11. Re:Mainstream news sites... by Jim+Hall · · Score: 1

      While it is true that GTA3 will only appear on the PS2 of all home consoles, GTA3/PC is available for sale now: http://www.rockstarwarehouse.com/

    12. Re:Mainstream news sites... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You missed the most important thing of the announcement. And, frankly, because of all the anti-Microsoft vibes around here, I have no clue why you missed it:

      Grand Theft Auto is now a Sony Exclusive franchise

      That means that, despite hundreds of reports to the contrary, Grand Theft Auto 3 will not be coming out for the Xbox.


      That isn't even interesting let alone important. Who cares whether it's available for the Xbox or not?

  12. GTa3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think im the only one that thinks GTA3 has horrible game play and control. It just feels way to bulky compared to the fast paced, action packed GTA and GTA2. I can't have any fun with GTA3, the views are awful.

    1. Re:GTa3 by Te1waz · · Score: 1

      Yes, I think you are too.

      I disliked the first two versions, I just didn't develop any empathy for the game or the characters.
      Since I usually like to wander around turning innocent bystanders into overdone barbeque pork chops, people may think I've not developped much empathy for the characters of GTA3 either.

      However I do 'feel their pain' as I brutally slaughter them in their dozens for my petty sadistic entertainment.

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    2. Re:GTa3 by vreeker · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Press select until the view changes to the overhead view you are used to in the original(s) - do you like it better yet?

  13. Have fun with the PC version while you can.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    ..since Rockstar just announced their until-2005 exclusivity agreement with Sony yesterday.

    1. Re:Have fun with the PC version while you can.. by iainl · · Score: 2

      I'd suggest you go re-read the press release from SCEA. Its very carefully worded to allow a loophole for Vice City to be allowed on a PC.

      "the PlayStation 2 will be the only home entertainment system"

      i.e. no X-Box or Gamecube.

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    2. Re:Have fun with the PC version while you can.. by gabec · · Score: 1
      I'd suggest you go re-read the press release from IGN.

      "It will be available exclusively for PlayStation(R)2 "

    3. Re:Have fun with the PC version while you can.. by iainl · · Score: 2

      Aaah, it depends on which IGN report you read. In the first article I read Kelly Sumner says "The fact that the PlayStation 2 will be the only home entertainment system on which one can enjoy Grand Theft Auto titles is a great statement for the platform overal", and I took the rather careful phrase to mean he was explicitly avoiding the presence of GTA games on platforms other than "home entertainment system"s. In the other one IGN themselves say "Grand Theft Auto 3 and all future titles in the GTA franchise will be exclusive to PlayStation 2 until October 2004, SCEA announced today at its E3 press conference", but I still see the same quote from Sumner, so we have no direct evidence that they have really said no more PC GTA games for the next 2 and a half years.

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    4. Re:Have fun with the PC version while you can.. by XBoyAdv · · Score: 1

      2004 not 2005. Gamespot and IGN both say it.

    5. Re:Have fun with the PC version while you can.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      correct me if im wrong.. IGN isnt making the game....

    6. Re:Have fun with the PC version while you can.. by gabec · · Score: 1

      yeah, i was joking. O:)

    7. Re:Have fun with the PC version while you can.. by linzeal · · Score: 1

      Who cares there will emulation for playstation 2 games soon enough.

  14. Re:Ok, how much controversy wil this one generate? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Why not have a level/scene where your job is to escort a bunch of kids to school or some such thing? You could protect them from record lyrics and internet chat rooms.

    Oh wait. Those don't do any harm on their own. Hmmm. How 'bout the object is to make parents pay attention to their kids? Lots of replay value, and since the game is so difficult, only avid gamers need apply.

  15. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City by arson1 · · Score: 1

    or GTA; Vice City, not GTA3: Vice City

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  16. amusement park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it true that there is a secert level, where you can kill people at an amusement park...

    1. Re:amusement park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, that's half-life.

  17. Biggest problems with GTA3 by Lumpy · · Score: 1, Troll

    the realisim is not there. The car needs to incurr damage, the tires actually need to wear (Buy the best tires drive on them forever as they never wear out) you can slam into a wall at 212MPH and just simply stop. you cant flip over (I tried, when your car hit's the groun it magically rights it'sself)

    i love GTA, I play it alot. but they need to add some realisim into it.

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    1. Re:Biggest problems with GTA3 by Kanon · · Score: 2

      Aren't you talking about Gran Tourismo rather than Grand Theft Auto 3?

      I know I can certainly flip my car on it's top and I've had more than my fair share take too much damage and explode.

    2. Re:Biggest problems with GTA3 by SageLikeFool · · Score: 1

      You are actually talking about GT3, or Gran Tourismo 3. Not to be confused with GTA3, or Grand Theft Auto 3. You cannot buy new tires in GTA3, but you can sure as hell flip your car.

    3. Re:Biggest problems with GTA3 by billcopc · · Score: 1

      Dude, if you flip the car, it explodes!

      And if you slam into a wall at 212mph, chances are it's also going to catch fire and explode within a few seconds.

      Ok so the tires never wear out, but there isn't a tire shop in the entire game. "Oh, I have to kill some Triads up north. I wonder if I should get snowgrips?!"

      GTA has never been about realism, it's been about violent and chaotic fantasy. If the cars were really as gutless as real cars, well it just might remind us of real life and how boring it is, which is why we bought these expensive toys in the first place : to take a little break from reality.

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    4. Re:Biggest problems with GTA3 by NewWazoo · · Score: 1


      Uh, hello?

      We're talking about "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" here, not "Gran Turismo".

      And anyway, tires *do* wear in GT3 (and GT2, for that matter), they're just "infinitely replaceable". Car damage would be nice, as it would discourage people from doing the "let the wall do the turning" 'trick'.

      (uh, sorry for the OT :-])

      Brandon

    5. Re:Biggest problems with GTA3 by sprouty76 · · Score: 1
      You certainly can flip it. And if you do, you need to get out, pretty sharpish.

      You're getting mixed up with something else, I think - you can't buy tyres and there's no speedometer visible. And the car very definately incurs damage in GTA3.

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    6. Re:Biggest problems with GTA3 by David+Kennedy · · Score: 2

      > the realisim is not there. The car needs to incurr
      > damage,

      Eh? Cars do incur damage! Lots of it!

      > the tires actually need to wear (Buy the
      > best tires drive on them forever as they never
      > wear out)

      Eh? You don't buy tires - and I don't want to
      see that added.

      > you can slam into a wall at 212MPH and
      > just simply stop.

      EH? Car burns!

      > you cant flip over (I tried,
      > when your car hit's the groun it magically
      > rights it'sself)

      WHAT!? I flip mine all the time after jumps!

      > i love GTA, I play it alot. but they need to
      > add some realisim into it.

      You see, you DIDN'T READ THE ARTICLE! AT ALL!

      You mean Grand Tourismo. Everyone else is talking
      about Grand Theft Auto.

      Idiot.

    7. Re:Biggest problems with GTA3 by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No it doesn't. That is what made it so fun. You put grand turismo physics in GTA and it would be dull.

    8. Re:Biggest problems with GTA3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look, the dude is obviously confusing his games. The reason there's not damage in Gran Turismo is that many car companies won't give Sony the licence to use images of their cars if the cars aren't depicted in pristine condition at all times.

    9. Re:Biggest problems with GTA3 by wilhelm · · Score: 1

      I don't know about you guys, but when I play, the car is, uh, "worn out" well before the tires even think about having a chance to wear out. Just something about those INSANE STUNT BONUSes that makes me cackle hideously. When I get too frustrated with the mission I'm working on, I just drive around looking for ramp-like devices. The Duke boys got nuthin' on me. :)

    10. Re:Biggest problems with GTA3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOUR'RE A FUCKING MORON.... GT3 SUCKS ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!

      JUST BEAT GTA3....WHAT DO I DO NOW WITH MY UNEMPLOYMENT TIME???????

    11. Re:Biggest problems with GTA3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      now, grand theft auto physics in gran tourisimo? that would kick ass- i bought the ps2 for gt3 and was dissapointed, then i got gta3 and hell yeah!

  18. The WaReZ d00dZ are busy little bees. by Echo5ive · · Score: 2, Informative

    They released it yesterday. And apparently Soldier of Fortune II just hit the net.

    And before someone asks the inevitable question: NO, you can't download it on the URL I posted. It's just an info site.

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    1. Re:The WaReZ d00dZ are busy little bees. by isorox · · Score: 1

      NO, you can't download it on the URL I posted. It's just an info site.

      Shame, you'd have had a +5 Informative if it was :)

  19. Uh... by Joseph+Vigneau · · Score: 1

    Are you sure you aren't confusing GTA3 (Grand Theft Auto 3) with GT3 (Gran Turismo 3)?

  20. Aussies by sjwt · · Score: 1

    I relay hope this isnt hit by aussie
    clasivication laws..

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    1. Re:Aussies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or grammar and spelling laws...

  21. Miami? by jglow · · Score: 1

    this site reported a rumor about a GTA-Miami add-on, where the city is built on a rough model of the actual city of Miami. (Similar to Midtown Madness) - Although these are just rumors... it would be a nice add on. Think of pthe possibilities.

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    1. Re:Miami? by ZaMoose · · Score: 2

      Uhhhh, "Vice City". As in "Miami Vice". Liberty City is based on NYC. "Vice City" will be roughyl based on Miami.

      Make sense?

      --
      I wish I had a kryptonite cross, because then you could keep Dracula and Superman away.
    2. Re:Miami? by jglow · · Score: 1

      Gotcha. I must have read this before anything about "Vice City" was mentioned, because they were only saying Miami. But heh, it makes sense.

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      There's no "I" in Linux.. err..
    3. Re:Miami? by ZaMoose · · Score: 2

      It's supposed to take place in the 80's, so expect lots of white blazers, open-collared pastel shirts and spurious references to both Crockett and Tubbs.

      *grin*

      --
      I wish I had a kryptonite cross, because then you could keep Dracula and Superman away.
    4. Re:Miami? by spood · · Score: 1

      In the original GTA for PC, the three cities were Liberty City, San Andreas (probably 'frisco, because of all the hills), and Vice City in that order. Not sure why they are skipping straight to Vice City - probably because of plot issues.

      IMO, the original GTA had much more creative missions than GTA3, though the graphics and play control were a lot worse. I just stumbled on the missions with the Bitch 'n Dog food owner (GTA3) last night and they are AWFUL! Go pick up someone in a car, bring them back in the car, destroy the car. 4 separate missions, all the same!

      I love the GTA3 engine - if they can bring back the writers from the first GTA series, they will have themselves a kickass game on their hands.

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      ---- Just another spud server.
  22. PC Version by Liquid(TJ) · · Score: 1

    I bought the PC version yesterday. I hadn't had a chance to try int on PS2 but I have played the first two games on PC. So far I'm enyoying the hell out of it. One thing I noticed that doesn't seem to be getting around is that you can make new skins for the main character model trivially. The new dismemberment isn't anything to write home about, the model just clean breaks some of itself off, and the detach body parts don't seem to stick around. Still better than nothing though. Driving is a bit tricky with the keybord, I think my biggest problem is using the handbrake and footbrake together effectivly. It's not horrible though, so some more practice and maybe some key re-mapping will surely solve that.
    Overall, it looks to be worth my $52. Now if only SOF2 wasn't being released TODAY...

    1. Re:PC Version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what are the hardware requirements for it ?
      min required ?

    2. Re:PC Version by Liquid(TJ) · · Score: 1

      It said recommended version was 700 MHz P3 and 32 meg video. On my 1ghz celery and GF2-GTS, it runs a bit chunky at 10x7x16 with view distance cranked out to max.

  23. GTA hopes and dreams by British · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I really do hope for an MMORPG version of this. Imagine 20-30 of the main player characters running around in the city causing havok. You could have full-on gang wars, crazy races and several other challenges.

    I heard that Vice city will be taking place in my favorite decade, the 1980s. We can only hope for Crocket and Tubbs references, several genres of 80s music on the radio, and be able to drive Toyota minivans around. I wonder if they'd have a Fiero-like car that starts on fire in the back? Would you be up against a gang of "punks", complete with thin sunglasses and mohawks? Will there be some special Knight Rider car that's cleverly hidden that has special weapons?

    We can only dream for now.

    Another thing I'd like to see is more mini-missions. How about drive a city bus around? The firetruck missions proved to me that driving around a firetruck in a busy city is a real PITA that isn't forgiving to the occasional running over people or smashing other cars.

    1. Re:GTA hopes and dreams by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 2

      There was a game called syndicate wars that was alot like this.
      Unfortionatly the graphics were terrible and you kept loosing your units behind buildings (alpha transparency wasn't an option then).
      The gameplay was awesome though, not to mention the cool sci-fi neo-tokyo surroundings.

    2. Re:GTA hopes and dreams by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 1

      Maybe there making it for the 80's so they don't have to redu some of there radio songs.

      "She's on FIRE! and she's burning throught the night."

    3. Re:GTA hopes and dreams by angelo · · Score: 1

      Rockstar has a game called "State of Emergency" which may suit some of those needs. From what I've heard, it's not as good as GTA3, but it's not entirely crap either.

    4. Re:GTA hopes and dreams by fatbastard10101 · · Score: 1

      When I saw this article, a mmorpg (how do you pronounce that, anyway?) was the first thing I thought of. How dope would that be? Your gang consists of you, your little brother, a housewife in Denver, and some professor from Belgium. Forget about Camelot, AC, even Star Wars Online, this is the "Killer" App.

      But then I thought of the liability insurance Sony would have to carry because of the "Off-line PKing".

      Having Korean gangsters shooting at your car is only cool in a video game.

    5. Re:GTA hopes and dreams by British · · Score: 2

      I really wish I could find the MP3 to the Japanese-themed radio station from GTA2. No luck whatsoever on any sites or AG. "Rocki toki teryaki taste like saki!"

    6. Re:GTA hopes and dreams by Joz · · Score: 1

      Maybe they're making it in the 80's to anger the player more and raise his in-game criminal status faster by forcing him to listen to 80's music and look at people dressed in 80's style on the streets.

    7. Re:GTA hopes and dreams by Te1waz · · Score: 1

      I have it - I was a little disappointed.
      It's way more cartoony than GTA3, there's not as much satisfaction in the gameplay and there is not as much freedom as in GTA3.
      There is the 'REvoluion mode' which is mission based, and 'Chaos mode' which is smashing things and hitting people - only a few targets..
      Best fun is 'Last Clone standing' You just run around one of the levels attempting to kill all these scared people. At the end it says 'Congratulations, you killed Everybody!'

      --
      From my Autobiography - "Lifestyles of the Sad and Desperate"...
  24. GTA3: Vice City?? by Mupp252 · · Score: 1

    This game is not an expansion pack, it's a stand alone. Even the press release says the game will be called Grand Theft Auto: Vice City.

    Just another friendly reminder to please read articles before you post them :)

  25. Does anyone know... by heideggier · · Score: 2
    If there will be a london 1960's mission pack, I personally thought that was more fun then the game, For example you stole some spys car and all the missions followed the mr bond plot line.

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  26. Consider the source by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Executive producer, producer, chief executive officer... chances are that none of these people have seen more than a couple of screenshots and concept drawings of the latest evolution. Wake me up when one of the developers is talking about how good and how soon it'll be.

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    If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
  27. Rhino by ThulsaDoom · · Score: 2

    Circle(6), R1, L2, L1, Triangle, Circle, Triangle. nuff' said.

    1. Re:Rhino by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ****** >> GANK >> RHINO :: Legit

  28. Top 5 GTA 4 features sure to get them banned by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 3, Funny

    1) Australian Parliment Level. Guess what the mission is?
    2) Marching Bands and playgrounds( in tribute to postal)
    3) Mormons (with bikes!), Jehovah's Witnesses, Krishnas, etc.
    4) Nudist Park Rampage
    5) Drinking at the wheel improves score

    1. Re:Top 5 GTA 4 features sure to get them banned by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Drinking at the wheel improves score

      Wouldn't that be a fantastic gimmick - increase score, but add a delay to all controls.

    2. Re:Top 5 GTA 4 features sure to get them banned by laserjet · · Score: 2

      I have seen that done before and I don't think the GTA team would be happy with that. They would devise new "drunk" algorithms. For instance, while you are driving in a straight line, you weave a little bit, etc. Making you more likely to get pulled over.

      Or my favorite alternative is just to get really piss drunk, then play the game.

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      Moon Macrosystems. Sun's biggest competitor.
    3. Re:Top 5 GTA 4 features sure to get them banned by jamesidm · · Score: 2

      Krishnas

      GTA 2, 3rd City IIRC

    4. Re:Top 5 GTA 4 features sure to get them banned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somewhere in the Chinatown section is a pill powerup that makes everying go in slow motion. Eliminating some hood with your shotgun under its effects is very freaky.

  29. Its a damn shame. by vermicious · · Score: 1

    Lack of multiplayer is the reason i'm NOT buying GTA3 for PC. What fool made this decision? Or is it simply an engine problem? GTA2 had wonderful multiplayer setup. How disapointing. I guess I'll have to go out and buy the PS2 version - as soon as it goes down in price; It should be a 'greatest hit' title like GT3 by now.

    1. Re:Its a damn shame. by Xugumad · · Score: 1

      This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You're not buying the PC version because it lacks multiplayer support, so instead you're planning on buying the PS2 version which still doesn't have multiplayer support, but also costs more and has worse graphics?

      As an owner of the PS2 version, frankly I'd recommend the PC version, from the screenshots I've seen!

  30. Multiplayer options by gabec · · Score: 2, Informative
    I agree. I don't see why they didn't include some kind of multiplayer abilities in GTA3.. It was in their older titles! :/ but whatever. I guess they'll just feed their competitors a little bit.

    I did some hunting a few weeks ago for a GTA-like game with multiplayer abilities and I think I found one.. It's called Mafia and is from TalonSoft. It hasn't been released yet, but in theory it'll be out in a month or two.

    here's an exerpt from the amazon.com page:

    * 3rd-person 3-D action game
    * 20 missions set in the 1930s underworld
    * Use weapons such as the Tommy gun, pump-action shotgun, baseball bat, or Molotov cocktail
    * Drive more than 60 different vehicles, including the Model T, Roadster, and delivery trucks
    * Multiplayer support via LAN or over the Internet

    1. Re:Multiplayer options by byran+lei · · Score: 0

      >I agree. I don't see why they didn't include some kind of multiplayer
      >abilities in GTA3.. It was in their older titles! :/ but whatever. I
      >guess they'll just feed their competitors a little bit.
      >
      >
      Simple. They don't want jackasses like you to ruin the game.

    2. Re:Multiplayer options by gabec · · Score: 1
      how would multiplayer ruin the game? Like i said, it worked well enough in the original GTA. Anyway, I realize I came off like a dick, but frankly I think it sucks that they didn't include those options. My guess is that their game engine wouldn't handle it well. For example if you're running down the road and you look over your shoulder and look back the cars will have disappeared or rearranged themselves. the game has no continuity in that respect. In order to save memory as soon as the game thinks it knows where you're going it clears the memory in all other directions.

      if the game had multiplayer they'd have to keep track of a hell of a lot more options, all over the board. maybe that's why they didn't include it. I don't know.

      either way, this "jackass" still plans on hunting for multiplayer options in his games.

  31. Par for the course by scribblej · · Score: 1

    I know there's a lot of newbies who never heard of Grand Theft Auto before GTAIII hit the shelves.

    The rest of us remember GTAII and GTAII:London.

    Same thing happened last time, guys.

    -Chris

    1. Re:Par for the course by laserjet · · Score: 2

      whay are you forgetting the very first GTA, Grand Theft Auto (1)? It is still a very playable and fun game.

      --
      Moon Macrosystems. Sun's biggest competitor.
    2. Re:Par for the course by Anonymous+Cow+herd · · Score: 1

      My biggest beef with the previous two (three, if you count London) was the forced top-down perspective. While it's ok for low-speed navigation and running around the city, the fact is that just about any vehicle was near impossible to drive at high speeds anywhere, because you don't get enough of a view of the road ahead of you to avoid slow-moving or stopped traffic. The chasecam style perspective in GTA3 helps an immense amount in making those high speed getaways and running roadblocks, while maintaining consistent physics and handling of the vehicles.

      --
      Ita erat quando hic adveni.
  32. Vice City = Miami Vice? by bartenderpho · · Score: 1

    Hmmm 1980's, vice city, I hope we get the Miami Vice sound track with it. Why do I see the main character wearing a white sport jacket? I wonder if we'll be able to check out South Beach. We all know that they were hinting at Miami being chosen (the police chief, the airport, billboards, etc.)

    Whatever it is, it's gonna be cool.

  33. Cant get through GTA3 by moankey · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I havent got all the way through GTA3... Espresso 2 Go is frustrating.

    1. Re:Cant get through GTA3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm stuck on it too. I'm going to try my bro's strategy: Use your car to run over the stands!

    2. Re:Cant get through GTA3 by marmoset · · Score: 1

      Espresso 2 Go is frustrating.

      The best vehicle to use for this mission is the bulletproof Patriot you got for finishing all of Ray's missions.

      Start the mission by driving around all three islands, so that you have the red dots for all of the booths on your map before you destroy any of them. I find it's easier if you take out the Columbians in the booth beforehand (either driveby 'em with the Uzis or use the "car shield" trick and snipe 'em.)

      When you've visited all the booth locations, go back to Portland and go over to Salvatore's mansion. Park towards the edge of the driveway, not far from the two parked Sentinels. Climb on top of your Patriot and arm yourself with the rocket launcher. Aim through the trees and blow the first booth to kingdom come. Immediately hop into your Patriot and tear off to the next booth. As long as you don't get too hung up by the cops or flip your vehicle, you should be able to get to all the booths in the time you've got. Don't forget to pop into the Pay n'Spray to get your BP Patriot fixed if it gets too wasted (you'll almost certainly need to do this once, since the truck takes damage every time you flatten a booth.)

    3. Re:Cant get through GTA3 by kpetruse · · Score: 1

      ***SPOILER***

      Drive round the city to get the location of all stands before you hit the first stand. Then make sure you do it in a fast or strong car. The Bulletproof Cheetah rocks...if you haven't got that, you can do it in the Bulletproof Patriot, that Ray whatsisname gives you.

    4. Re:Cant get through GTA3 by kpetruse · · Score: 1

      Ok, so I'm posting to the same thread twice. Bah.

      But unless moankey is a very bad flamer, the mod on this post is wrong. Espresso 2 Go is a mission in GTA3 that is a ballache. Took me quite a few goes. And obviously some other people had problems with it too.

      So like I said, it's either a flame that is rather unflame-like (er, a black body post? Ahem...) or it's modded badly.

  34. Thanks a lot by WildBeast · · Score: 2

    With all the great reviews, I headed to the store and buyed the PC version. What is wrong with the reviewers nowadays? I usually like racing games but this game is really annoying, it's just like that Wreckless game.

    If you like Wreckless you'll probably love this game because the gameplay is a little better but if you hated Wreckless like I did well then GTA3 is a huge disappointment.

    1. Re:Thanks a lot by beddess · · Score: 1

      well, if you were expecting a racing game it'd
      probably be pretty damned dissapointing.

      mostly because it isn't a racing game tho :0

      a few of the missions are races within the city though.

      --
      "Weasling out of work is important to learn; it is what separates humans from animals. Except for weasels."
    2. Re:Thanks a lot by NineNine · · Score: 3, Informative

      I usually like racing games but this game is really annoying, it's just like that Wreckless game.

      Maybe you didn't like Grand Theft Auto 3 because it's NOT a racing game.

    3. Re:Thanks a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude, its not about racing, GTA# is different and its so open that many first time players don't even know what to do with all the freedom they have... they are expecting routine prescriptive, linear missions... which it sort of has, but that is like only 50% of the game experience... get to know your city...

      and i'm not going to tell you what to do with your freedom, figure it out, walk around... explore... your mind.

    4. Re:Thanks a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must have been confused with GT3 (Grand Turismo 3), the popular PS2 racing game from Sony. GTA3 is NOT a racing game. (although there is a "turismo" mission in the game (~2-3 minute race, IIRC)).

    5. Re:Thanks a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I headed to the store and buyed the PC version.

      Ow. This is the sort of grammar mistake that three-year-old children make.

    6. Re:Thanks a lot by WildBeast · · Score: 2

      "and bought"

      Remember, not all of us are from the US. I had three languages to learn before english. So take it easy.

  35. Marketing drones have learned their lessons well by securitas · · Score: 0, Troll


    How is this item anything more than lame PR disguised as a news item?

    Anyone and everyone who uses this site is capable of going to any of the gaming sites to read about this, or to their favorite game studio site to read press releases -- and they probably do.

    A press release announcing a game hardly qualifies as news, and it certainly isn't anything that matters.

  36. I just hope they'll keep Flashback FM by Iber · · Score: 1

    You just can't beat that "Scarface" soundtrack while playing GTA. I don't know, maybe "Pulp Fiction" would come close

    1. Re:I just hope they'll keep Flashback FM by TellarHK · · Score: 2

      I dunno, I think I beat Flashback FM for coolness while playing last night. Thanks to GTA3 PC's ability to play MP3's if you place shortcuts in a directory, I took a directory of my MP3's that only included one-shots, stuff where I only had one song from an artist, and wound up with some very odd gaming moments.

      Taking a hooker to the pier for a little "health inrease mambo" to Paradise by the Dashboard Light. (And then killing her to get my money back)

      Driving away from an exploding warehouse with Paul Simon's "You can call me Al"

      Simply cruising the streets with not -only- the Top Gun theme, but followed immediately by the Peter Gunn theme, the Theme from Shaft, and the James Bond theme to top it off.

      Today's GTA3 music... Devo!

      All it really needs now is the ability to skip back or ahead a track on the MP3 channel.

    2. Re:I just hope they'll keep Flashback FM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's not forget Chatterbox with Lazlo.

  37. Re:Marketing drones have learned their lessons wel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So press releases regarding Linux ARE news? Like it or not, GTA3 is a phenomenon, and quite newsworthy.

  38. Make city packs !!!!! by gelfling · · Score: 2

    Here's my choices:

    Belfast (during the 'troubles')
    Ramallah
    Bogota
    Buenos Aires
    LA (after the Lakers win)

    oh wait, is that still funny?

  39. What GTA3 is missing is... by $beirdo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The motorcycles! Remember those from GTA and GTA II? (Superbike etc.) They were so fast that you couldn't stay on for more than a few seconds, but they did the coolest jumps and added lots of extra craziness. Bring back the bikes!

    1. Re:What GTA3 is missing is... by MWoody · · Score: 2

      Hmmm... They certainly did seem conspicuous in their absense, but I wonder if they consciously decided to leave them out? Such high-speed vehicles may make it impossible to load the terrain fast enough on the PS2. Alternately, they could make them the same speed as the other cars, but that kind of kills the point.

    2. Re:What GTA3 is missing is... by NewWazoo · · Score: 1


      IIRC, they were having problems with the physics and rendering, specifically wrt turns - cars lean out, while bikes lean in.

      I agree, though - they would have kicked A$$! :-)

      Brandon

  40. the Anti-GTA by grakwell · · Score: 5, Funny
    Vice City PD.

    Features:
    • Real problems are few and far between: Cruise the city's 20 donut shops in the mean-time.
    • In-Car computer to look up offender info. Also has mini-games. Tetris, anyone?
    • Points accumulate as you make speeders sit and wait for you to walk over & ticket them
    • Max character height: 5'6"
    • Don't forget to read those Miranda rights, or the DA will be pissed
    • Most up-to-date bureaucracy simulator *ever!* Literally thousands of forms to fill out.
    • High speed chases are dangerous, and have been banned. Call in the copters to follow them and go for more donuts.
    • Immersive domestic disturbances
    • Realistic AI. Whatever you do, at least half the city still thinks you're the bad guy.
    • Bike Cop & Meter Maid classes in the next expansion pack
    1. Re:the Anti-GTA by kubrick · · Score: 2

      Sounds a lot like A.P.B. -- except that the chases were the main part of the game. Ah, the late 1980s were a much more innocent time :)

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  41. gta3 is sexist and promotes violence against women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    stop playingi t

  42. Re:Ok, so how much controversy wil this one genera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not so sure. I find it both offensive and terribly fun to play. If offensiveness is what is making it sell, then why isn't State of Emergency (also by Rockstar) doing better than it is?

  43. Re:gta3 is sexist and promotes violence against wo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Um, GTA3 promotes violence against everyone and everything, and here's a clue: it's not real, it's a game!

  44. Quick fix - DENIED by jackjumper · · Score: 1

    In search of a quick fix, I went to the local evil super store (i.e Best Buy). They're not putting it out until tomorrow because "we always put out new software on Thursday"

    I *hate* those places...

  45. I don't believe it! by Dusty · · Score: 1
    The PC version of GTA3 hit stores today.

    A Politically Correct version of Grand Theft Auto?

    I find that hard to believe.

    1. Re:I don't believe it! by Slurm-V · · Score: 1

      I love it: for the best mission I'm torn between picking up hookers and and delivering them to the needle exchange, and the thing with the baseball bat and the little league. Mind you, for all out racing chaos, you can't beat the pro-choice rally.

      --
      Of course it's going off the rails. How else is it ever going to fly?
  46. It will never end! by iamr00t · · Score: 1

    Did you play 3 previous GTAs? ;-)
    In the original one you couldn't save at all, that's what I call junkie. Almost like playing Elite on ZX-Spectrum (never tried it though).

    I just with you could import your profile from GTA3, that would be neat.

  47. Mods could be possible by skilef · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A guy edited some GTA3 config-files and found a server entry and a ping entry. There's not much info, but you can find it on this site. This could mean the guys at Rock* were too lazy to remove it, or they left the possibility open to play multiplayer games in the future.

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    You do not exist. Go away.
  48. XBOX Fans remorse.... by qurob · · Score: 1

    That's right XBOX fans - No GTA3 until 2004.

    SCEA (Sony Computer Entertainment America - the same corporation responsible for the PC version six month delay and no PC version of GTA:Vice) announced yesterday at their E3 press conference that GTA3 will take another stab in the back as far as getting onto other platforms. GTA3:XBOX won't be happening this year after all. Due to the contract between SCEA and Take-Two (the parent company of RockStar Games), RockStar are not allowed to publish GTA3 for any console other than the PS2 for three years since the agreement in 2001.

    1. Re:XBOX Fans remorse.... by Warlock7 · · Score: 1

      Actually, Take2 announced that GTA3 will NEVER be released to the X-Box. They have scrapped the whole X-Box port. "Hirai added that "Grand Theft Auto 3," the top-selling video game for the past few months, will remain exclusive to the PS2, with publisher Take-Two canceling previous plans to bring the game to the Xbox." Here's a link to the article on CNet.

  49. Wait, wait, wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Consoles are out, that we know. But does anyone have any concrete information regarding the GTA franchise and PCs?

    Let's pool real information.

  50. online gta by Black_Logic · · Score: 1

    It would be pretty cool to see an online gta, but one thing I noticed about this game was that it was only partially a pervasive environment. ie. if you follow a car it stays in existance, but lose sight of it and it can dissapear. Seems like a pretty good idea to me, the cars that pass you and you come up on are generated dynamically (same for pedestrians) If you steal a lot of cars and park them in the same place, cars stop coming. I wonder if it was just easier to do it that way or if it was a way of getting around memory problems. If the latter is the case that might be a problem for an online version,(world would have to be persistant.)

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    Ansi's and stupid tricks!
  51. you are uninformed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a revolutionary game in its open-endedness and detail. I have played alot of games - but Ive never played a game for 5 months straight like GTA3. You are ignorant.

  52. Title (and assumptions) incorrect... by badasscat · · Score: 1

    The header here really needs the "3" removed - this is GTA: Vice City, not GTA3: Vice City. Read the press release. This is not an add-on, nor is it GTA3 redux. It's being built from the ground up, though it will obviously resemble GTA3 in terms of gameplay (it's a proven formula). Sheesh, not only am I reading old news on Slashdot recently (Nintendo "announced" Metroid, Zelda, et. al months ago), now I'm reading erroneous news - when there's a press release right in front of you to refer to!

    1. Re:Title (and assumptions) incorrect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sheesh, not only am I reading old news on Slashdot recently (Nintendo "announced" Metroid, Zelda, et. al months ago), now I'm reading erroneous news - when there's a press release right in front of you to refer to!

      How long have you been reading Slashdot? Did you also find out last christmas that Santa Claus's jolly laughter coincided with your dad being piss drunk?

  53. Instant Replay... by luugi · · Score: 1

    I really wish there was replays in the games. There was plenty of times Iwas wishing I could replay a crazy car chase or a last second escape from the cops. I hope the computer version has that feature. I wouldn't mind downloading a crazy car chase seen from the net. I'm sure some web sites would spring up where people could rate the replays.

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    Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought.
  54. Re:PIRATE THIS by byran+lei · · Score: 0

    >Rockstar has said "FUCK YOU" to PC gamers
    >
    >
    So what? The vast majority of Console gamers have also said "FUCK YOU" to PC gamers. What's the big deal here?

  55. The Dodo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Dodo rules, needs more cool vehicles