Not really, you can just downlaod the older version (2.7) and then do an apt-get dist-upgrade. Also, nothing stops you from getting the newest version from a friend, as it is all gpl'd.
Or you can always try out libranet. Basically its debian with a super easy installer. I tried debian once, but couldn't for the life of me get it to recognize my ethernet card while also loading the 2,4 kernel (for some reason they still have 2.2 as the default kernel, which just wasn't going to cut it. I am not going to re-write all of my iptables rules to work for ipchains). After giving up with the basic debian installer, I discovered libranet, which still has all of the glory of debian's apt-get, but with an installer that is just as easy if not slightly more easy than RedHat's installer. It instantly recognized all of my hardware, and everything is now working gloriously.
If you look through the files, you'll see that they are all source rpm's. Maybe this is their way of still complying with the GPL. Although they say that they are defying it, when they go to court, and realize that they are about to lose, they'll just tell the judge, "well actually we were complying with the GPL, all you had to do was click ok to get to the source code".
No, notice I said air in the first sentance. To be fair sound doesn't even need air, but when I mentioned oxygen I was just trying to make the point that the most popular medium for most sound, oxygen (and I guess nitrigen too) didn't even exist yet at the time of the big bang.
that there is no sound in space? I mean, it might have sounded like a big hum, if there had been air. But oxygen hadn't even been created yet, so in reality it was just silent. I guess that's what you get when you have a project idea by a 11 year old.
I don't help many Linux beginners because they want Linux to be just like windows and don't want to even attempt going to a command line
The problem is, you have to tell new Linux users that Linux is different than windows. I know from my experience, that I had only been using windows as an OS for about 5 years when I started to learn Liniux. The person that was teaching me stuff just told me, "Linux is different than windows, you can do a lot of stuff in graphical mode, but if you want to do anything powerful, you have to do it through the command line. It may be hard at first, but you'll soon find that unlike windows, your conrol over the OS is only limited by your knowledge, rather than being limited by what the OS will let you do." After he said that, I had no problem trying to use the command line.
Oh, so you weren't really looking for an open standard, you were just looking for an easy way to encode your movies. Not to flame or anything, but in all honesty, your parent poster makes a good point. If you really want to keep using quicktime, I would suggest using quicktime as well as DivX. Because DivX is just so much nicer, and I hate it when I have to open up my quicktime player just to play a little movie. Often times, I would just chose not to play the movie instead of being forced to open up quicktime. And, I don't know about iMovie, but every decent movie editor that I've used has given me the option of what I codec want to encode my movie with.
The way I see it (I'm no expert either, but this is how I understood it from the link) is that basically a CD has a maximum volume that it can have. We'll call this level 10 volume. The volume of course flucuates a lot in a regular song, but each song has an 'average' volume. Back in the old days of mastering, they would try to get this average volume at around 5. That way, you could have loud sounds occasionally, and soft sounds too. However, what soon happened was that whenever an amateur recorded a CD, their average volume would be at around 3 or so, and you'd have to turn your stereo's volume way up to hear them. So eventually people began to associate a low average volume with unproffesional bands. So then, the professionals started to make their average volume to be at around 6. This would cause their CDs to sound even more professional, because it was even louder than the other professional CDs. This was alright, because there was still a lot of lee-way for the volume to increase when it needed to. However, recently the professional CDs have increased their average volume even higher, to maybe 8 or 9. This is bad though, because there is not much lee-way for the volume to increase. If the average volume were at 10, then all the sounds in the CD would be at the exact same volume, and there would be no variety, thus causing the song to sound like crap.
Arghh.... Everyone's response was so damn typical of slashdot. They don't care about logic or reason, all they care about is that "Microsoft is evil!" I'm responding to your comment becase you were the only one that actually made a decent, logical, well thought out response.
The thing is, in a case like this, the government IS expanding its power. Even though no new laws are being created, the government is setting a precedent that it can control pretty much any company that it deams worthy of being contolled.
If I make a better product, how is that anti-competitive? Like it or not, MS made a prodict that was good enough to propell it to the top of its industry. Bundling a media player or a browser is not bad, it is truly a feature that many users like. Now though, MS has become too big, and too clunky. They are slow, and Linux is moving faster. Just like the Standard Oil case, MS will lose its market share. Rather than trying to get the governemnt involved, instead just vote with your dollars, and support the product that you think is superior.
You say that the intent of the government is correct in this case, and that somehow justifies the use of force.I know its cliche to say this, but Commumism had a good intent too. Intent never justifies force, except in self-defense, and I don't think that MS was threatening to attack the US.
No, I DON'T think that the government should be allowed to use force to stop a monopoly. Did you read my post? In case you missed it, I said: Competition is good, and you obviously don't truly think so if you want to invoke the force of the government in order to hinder a company. In other words, the parent thought that the government should use force. I was stating that I disagreed with him.
Who care if they were found "guily"? The law is wrong. It should be changed. Looking back at the history of antitrust laws, the MS situation is incredibly similar to the Standard Oil antitrust case in 1911. Back then Standard Oil was the biggest player on the field, so the US governemt decided to break up the company. However, a smaller company, Gulf Oil, was already making giant inroads on Standard Oil's market share because they were experimenting with offshore drilling. The market would have taken care of itself completely. Just like linux is already making inroads to MS's market share, because we are experimenting with things like open source softare, and actually having decent security. Just let the market work itself out, the end product will be better, and you won't be giving the already oversized government a chance to increase its power.
How can you mod this guy troll? Obviusly, moderators have no clue about linguistics. Mono means one. Microsoft is not the only player in the field. There are plenty of others.
Ask yourself, do you really want to give the government the power to shut down any company that it deams worthy of its wrath?
Moderators: get a clue. All other slashdotters: Think about the economy. If you really want to help it, hurting one of your best and most profitable companies is not the way to do so.
I would think that slashdotters of all people would at least see that MS defintely does have competition. Obviusly the whiny slashdotters that want MS to be broken up havn't ever even tried Linux or Macs.
So, by your logic, RedHat should be illegal, because they are giving away an entire OS! There are plenty of other companies trying to make money from selling Operating Systems, yet RedHat continues to simply give their OS away for free. People who get RedHat for free are less likely to go out and by an OS from MS or Apple.
Competition is good, and you obviously don't truly think so if you want to invoke the force of the government in order to hinder a company.
Yet, somehow your post gets modded as informative? Oh yeah, I forgot, this is slashdot, logic and reason are irrelevant here.
Yup, I've had two different Antec power supplies shoot out sparks. The first one was a year ago, I was building my first computer, and bought the Antec TruPower 430W, because Tom's Hardware said it was the best, and the quietest. The first day that I got it running, I was suprised as to how quiet it was, I couldn't even hear it. On day 2, I turned my computer on, and sparks started shooting out. I was in panic, I thought I had fried my entire computer. So, the next day, I went out and exchanged it for the same model. Thankfully, everything else still worked. It worked fine for a year, but about 2 weeks ago, it caught fire again. This time, I was smart enough not to go with Antec again. I am trying out the Fortron/Source 400W model. Hopefully it lasts longer than a year!
What are you talking about? Drawing a line is as easy in Gimp as it is in any program. You select the pencil tool and then draw (same as in Photoshop). The problem that most people have with the Gimp, I think, is that they don't realize that in order to do anything, you have to right-click. This is definitely unlike regular windows programs. But, if you think about it, it really is easier. Rather than moving your mouse all the way to the top of the screen, you have all of your tools right there where ever your mouse is.
Holy crap, that site (http://www.ocad.ca/) is horrible! I'm so sick of people using java as a menuing system! And the pathetic thing is, is that the menus along the left side of the site (for example, click on 'student information') are in java, but could have been created entirely using standard CSS! And the truly pathetic thing is that the web developers probably got paid a premium for that piece of crap.
No no no, The point of the article was that corporations are gathering personal data so that they can charge different prices based on the person. The coke machine would only charge different prices based on the temparature, which has nothing to do with gathering your personal information, or discriminating. On the same day, it charges the same price to everyone.
Now, if the coke machine made you enter in your last paystub, then compared that with a database of other people's paystubs, and then determined your price, that would be relevant.
But still, my point stands, the less you let them know about you, the better, because most of the time, they will have to assume that you are the lowest common denominator, otherwise, you will just use the competition's product.
Since when is that how capitalism works? There are TONS of gum companies, which just shows how flawed your attempted anaology was. Since you were trying to equate gum monopolies to the microsoft "monopoly". Being that this is slashdot, I'm sure you've heard of and OS called Linux. Now, the definition of a monopoly is that there is only ONE company offering a certain product (hence the prefix, mono-) Microsoft always has had competition (OS/2, DRDOS, APPLE) and it always will have competition. Do you think that if microsoft tried to charge $10000 for windows, that more people wouldn't use Linux. I think they would. THAT is how capitalism works.
Exactly, this is no different than movie theaters offering student discounts, or senior discounts. In the end, it only helps those that need the lower prices. The only caveat, is that you have to be always vigilant, and make sure that you don't let them gather too much of your personal information.
Yes, I do think that companies would make that assumption. It happens today. If you go to orbitz.com (or any other airline site) and order plane tickets, you will find pretty much the cheapest fare. The reason is, is that they no nothing about you. If you call them up and tell them you are going on a business trip, and need to fly somewhere as soon as possible, then don't expect a cheap fare.
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Not really, you can just downlaod the older version (2.7) and then do an apt-get dist-upgrade. Also, nothing stops you from getting the newest version from a friend, as it is all gpl'd.
Or you can always try out libranet. Basically its debian with a super easy installer. I tried debian once, but couldn't for the life of me get it to recognize my ethernet card while also loading the 2,4 kernel (for some reason they still have 2.2 as the default kernel, which just wasn't going to cut it. I am not going to re-write all of my iptables rules to work for ipchains). After giving up with the basic debian installer, I discovered libranet, which still has all of the glory of debian's apt-get, but with an installer that is just as easy if not slightly more easy than RedHat's installer. It instantly recognized all of my hardware, and everything is now working gloriously.
If you look through the files, you'll see that they are all source rpm's. Maybe this is their way of still complying with the GPL. Although they say that they are defying it, when they go to court, and realize that they are about to lose, they'll just tell the judge, "well actually we were complying with the GPL, all you had to do was click ok to get to the source code".
No, notice I said air in the first sentance. To be fair sound doesn't even need air, but when I mentioned oxygen I was just trying to make the point that the most popular medium for most sound, oxygen (and I guess nitrigen too) didn't even exist yet at the time of the big bang.
Not to be to nit-picky, but that should be Ad-Aware, not ad-ware, which is what gator's eWallet is.
that there is no sound in space? I mean, it might have sounded like a big hum, if there had been air. But oxygen hadn't even been created yet, so in reality it was just silent. I guess that's what you get when you have a project idea by a 11 year old.
The problem is, you have to tell new Linux users that Linux is different than windows. I know from my experience, that I had only been using windows as an OS for about 5 years when I started to learn Liniux. The person that was teaching me stuff just told me, "Linux is different than windows, you can do a lot of stuff in graphical mode, but if you want to do anything powerful, you have to do it through the command line. It may be hard at first, but you'll soon find that unlike windows, your conrol over the OS is only limited by your knowledge, rather than being limited by what the OS will let you do." After he said that, I had no problem trying to use the command line.
Oh, so you weren't really looking for an open standard, you were just looking for an easy way to encode your movies. Not to flame or anything, but in all honesty, your parent poster makes a good point. If you really want to keep using quicktime, I would suggest using quicktime as well as DivX. Because DivX is just so much nicer, and I hate it when I have to open up my quicktime player just to play a little movie. Often times, I would just chose not to play the movie instead of being forced to open up quicktime. And, I don't know about iMovie, but every decent movie editor that I've used has given me the option of what I codec want to encode my movie with.
The way I see it (I'm no expert either, but this is how I understood it from the link) is that basically a CD has a maximum volume that it can have. We'll call this level 10 volume. The volume of course flucuates a lot in a regular song, but each song has an 'average' volume. Back in the old days of mastering, they would try to get this average volume at around 5. That way, you could have loud sounds occasionally, and soft sounds too. However, what soon happened was that whenever an amateur recorded a CD, their average volume would be at around 3 or so, and you'd have to turn your stereo's volume way up to hear them. So eventually people began to associate a low average volume with unproffesional bands. So then, the professionals started to make their average volume to be at around 6. This would cause their CDs to sound even more professional, because it was even louder than the other professional CDs. This was alright, because there was still a lot of lee-way for the volume to increase when it needed to. However, recently the professional CDs have increased their average volume even higher, to maybe 8 or 9. This is bad though, because there is not much lee-way for the volume to increase. If the average volume were at 10, then all the sounds in the CD would be at the exact same volume, and there would be no variety, thus causing the song to sound like crap.
The thing is, in a case like this, the government IS expanding its power. Even though no new laws are being created, the government is setting a precedent that it can control pretty much any company that it deams worthy of being contolled.
If I make a better product, how is that anti-competitive? Like it or not, MS made a prodict that was good enough to propell it to the top of its industry. Bundling a media player or a browser is not bad, it is truly a feature that many users like. Now though, MS has become too big, and too clunky. They are slow, and Linux is moving faster. Just like the Standard Oil case, MS will lose its market share. Rather than trying to get the governemnt involved, instead just vote with your dollars, and support the product that you think is superior.
You say that the intent of the government is correct in this case, and that somehow justifies the use of force.I know its cliche to say this, but Commumism had a good intent too. Intent never justifies force, except in self-defense, and I don't think that MS was threatening to attack the US.
No, I DON'T think that the government should be allowed to use force to stop a monopoly. Did you read my post? In case you missed it, I said: Competition is good, and you obviously don't truly think so if you want to invoke the force of the government in order to hinder a company. In other words, the parent thought that the government should use force. I was stating that I disagreed with him.
Hah, funny you should mention Standard Oil, I just made another post about it.
Who care if they were found "guily"? The law is wrong. It should be changed. Looking back at the history of antitrust laws, the MS situation is incredibly similar to the Standard Oil antitrust case in 1911. Back then Standard Oil was the biggest player on the field, so the US governemt decided to break up the company. However, a smaller company, Gulf Oil, was already making giant inroads on Standard Oil's market share because they were experimenting with offshore drilling. The market would have taken care of itself completely. Just like linux is already making inroads to MS's market share, because we are experimenting with things like open source softare, and actually having decent security. Just let the market work itself out, the end product will be better, and you won't be giving the already oversized government a chance to increase its power.
Ask yourself, do you really want to give the government the power to shut down any company that it deams worthy of its wrath?
Moderators: get a clue. All other slashdotters: Think about the economy. If you really want to help it, hurting one of your best and most profitable companies is not the way to do so.
I would think that slashdotters of all people would at least see that MS defintely does have competition. Obviusly the whiny slashdotters that want MS to be broken up havn't ever even tried Linux or Macs.
Competition is good, and you obviously don't truly think so if you want to invoke the force of the government in order to hinder a company.
Yet, somehow your post gets modded as informative? Oh yeah, I forgot, this is slashdot, logic and reason are irrelevant here.
Yup, I've had two different Antec power supplies shoot out sparks. The first one was a year ago, I was building my first computer, and bought the Antec TruPower 430W, because Tom's Hardware said it was the best, and the quietest. The first day that I got it running, I was suprised as to how quiet it was, I couldn't even hear it. On day 2, I turned my computer on, and sparks started shooting out. I was in panic, I thought I had fried my entire computer. So, the next day, I went out and exchanged it for the same model. Thankfully, everything else still worked. It worked fine for a year, but about 2 weeks ago, it caught fire again. This time, I was smart enough not to go with Antec again. I am trying out the Fortron/Source 400W model. Hopefully it lasts longer than a year!
What are you talking about? Drawing a line is as easy in Gimp as it is in any program. You select the pencil tool and then draw (same as in Photoshop). The problem that most people have with the Gimp, I think, is that they don't realize that in order to do anything, you have to right-click. This is definitely unlike regular windows programs. But, if you think about it, it really is easier. Rather than moving your mouse all the way to the top of the screen, you have all of your tools right there where ever your mouse is.
Well, hey, if we want SCO to lose, just have me buy some of their stock. Whenever I buy stock from a company, their stock goes down, no matter what.
Those of us that are insensitive clods would have been very offended by such a shirt, you insensitive clod!
Holy crap, that site (http://www.ocad.ca/) is horrible! I'm so sick of people using java as a menuing system! And the pathetic thing is, is that the menus along the left side of the site (for example, click on 'student information') are in java, but could have been created entirely using standard CSS! And the truly pathetic thing is that the web developers probably got paid a premium for that piece of crap.
Now, if the coke machine made you enter in your last paystub, then compared that with a database of other people's paystubs, and then determined your price, that would be relevant.
But still, my point stands, the less you let them know about you, the better, because most of the time, they will have to assume that you are the lowest common denominator, otherwise, you will just use the competition's product.
Since when is that how capitalism works? There are TONS of gum companies, which just shows how flawed your attempted anaology was. Since you were trying to equate gum monopolies to the microsoft "monopoly". Being that this is slashdot, I'm sure you've heard of and OS called Linux. Now, the definition of a monopoly is that there is only ONE company offering a certain product (hence the prefix, mono-) Microsoft always has had competition (OS/2, DRDOS, APPLE) and it always will have competition. Do you think that if microsoft tried to charge $10000 for windows, that more people wouldn't use Linux. I think they would. THAT is how capitalism works.
Exactly, this is no different than movie theaters offering student discounts, or senior discounts. In the end, it only helps those that need the lower prices. The only caveat, is that you have to be always vigilant, and make sure that you don't let them gather too much of your personal information.
Yes, I do think that companies would make that assumption. It happens today. If you go to orbitz.com (or any other airline site) and order plane tickets, you will find pretty much the cheapest fare. The reason is, is that they no nothing about you. If you call them up and tell them you are going on a business trip, and need to fly somewhere as soon as possible, then don't expect a cheap fare.