I call it a "report" because It appears to me to be more Microsoft leak than an independent report. Many./'ers take on Microsoft hatred as their pet peave, for me, it's bad journalism.
The timing of it is what leads me to beleive this. This is why I included the information about Moxi. Bill and company probably wern't very happy about all the ink Moxi got from CES especially since the founder also created WebTV before Microsoft bought them. Moxi was very secretive about their products before pulling back the curtain on them at CES. They even set up their company Rearden Steel to keep things as hush hush as possible.
I'm no Microsoft hater (or Mac or Linux or whatever for that matter). I prefer to be technologically agnostic, something often sadly missing from./
There were 6 models of the floppyless iMac that did not offer CDRW, (in 99 the original & DV/SE, in 2000 an updated original, and updated DV, the DV+ and the DV SE)
Grandma doesn't have to, the new iMac comes with a CD burner as standard equipment. Do a little research before posting your opinions, you'll find you look silly less often.
Did do my research. Thanks for asking.
Apple put out 7 versions (in 99 the original & DV/SE, in 2000 an updated original, and updated DV, the DV+ and the DV SE, and 2001 the SE) of the iMac before the 2001 version of the SE which finally included a CDRW drive. None has offered a floppy drive.
So that means that it took 2 years and 7 models for the iMac to even offer removable, writable media of any kind. What did iMac users use to backup with? USB Jaz/Zip drives?
Apple should have done their research. But they'll never look silly because Mac fans and the media will still slather praise on them no mater what.
How often do you use floppies these days? It is actually faster to upload to the 'net all the away around the world than to copy to a floppy. With a limit of 1.44MB what fits on a floppy anymore? I have a floppy in my PC that has never been used, what good are they? If I want storage I'll burn a CD, the medium is cheap, reliable and fast.
A PC needs removable yet writable media. Until CD Burners are as cheep as Floppies, the floppies need to stay../ regulars may not find them useful but people still use them to offload files for backup or sharing.
Grandma isn't going to buy a CD burner for her new iMac she uses to view those huge pictures of the grandkids and email her friends. She doesn't have a DSL connection so attaching them to an email may be to difficult. The easiest way for her to bring those files over to a friends house to show off is on a floppy.
I have no use for a floppy and don't see why I should pay for one.
Since you dont have many options when buying a mac, I guess you are stuck paying the extra $10 for that floppy drive.
That's right, dont make it a talking point. Make finding alternative ways to get the job done better and cheeper. Making use of opensource software should be a part of that.
Who cares how fast an information appliance is, as long as it's fast enough to do it's job?
Anyone who doesn't want to replace hardware every year. When buying a PC, even the non-geeks think down the road. Sure it's fast enough to do it's job, but is it fast enough to do tomorrow's job?
* Most importanly, Apple's emphasis is not on what is coolest, but on what is easiest for the consumer.
But thats not how it's being marketed.
That's the point of the Digital hub strategy. That's the point of the original iMac with no floppy drive and only USB connectors. That's the point of iPhoto, iTunes, i* etc.
Can we live without floppy drives? Certainly. The only reason to leave them out though is to reduce complexity. But when customers expect them to be there and it's the first thing they ask about, that's a good indication that you've got a problem.
Apple has a view of where PCs should be going and they are forcing it on consumers. Didn't they learn anything from NeXT?
to write something like this. Any criticisms of Apple open the flood gates of Apple fan's ire. Why cant Apple fans intelligently discuss the pros and cons of Apple's direction and decisions? The world isn't black and white and Apple isn't alwasy "brilliant" and Microsoft isn't always "evil".
Apple's focus on case design (lets not give it any more credit than it's due) is troubling. What happens when that $1000 computer isn't so cool anymore? You've got a frustrated customer who feels like they've got less than they paid for despite the fact that it is still a very usuable machine. Thats the danger of marketing form over function. If this cycle continues long enough, Apple's market share could erode even further.
It's a computer, not a lifestyle.
For me there were 3 films/tvshows that made me look at computing with a wonderous eye, Wargames, Tron and Whiz Kids (more info)
Tron had a nifty environment and music, in Wargames the geek got the girl, but Whiz Kids was the best, I was 13 and it made me want to get a modem more than anything else.
If you dont want to pay for listings, then buy a replay box. You'll notice that they are much more expensive, that is because both the TiVo and UltimateTV boxes are sold at a loss in anticipation of subscription revenues.
The only use I'd have for a network interface is D/L programming to my PC. My guide updates via satellite and is always up to date (DirecTiVo)
Companies have hiring minimums, especially in these hard times.
Sure you can find a job without a degree (or with the wrong one) but you wont make as much and will have a much harder time finding it.
with a CIS degree you can work on the helpline, with a MIS degree you can run the helpline,
with a CS degree you can create all the software the helpline people have to deal with for years after you;ve moved on to a new,more interesting project.
Universities (smart ones) make a ton of money off of licensing intellectual property.
Cornell may not have much of a case since they waited so long though.
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Is the faculty? If so, Microsoft's foray into educational computing (higher education in this case) must be more successful than is commonly perceived.
Is it the media? Dont think so, college kids aren't big news watchers (dont follow up with stories about how you and your hallmates watched Dan Rather every night and all the Sunday Morning shows every weekend, I'm painting with a very large brush here).
Is it the youthful lack of experience and tendency to buy into hype? Nail on the head. These kids haven't had to deal with a network full of chattering Windoze boxes.
But why ask about Linux? Why not ask about UNIXes as a whole? I wonder if "Linux" isn't a turnoff to some. Is Linux perceived more as a lifestyle than a legitimate business operating system? Go ask the rest of these college type sporting tux stickers who couldn't tell you what a swap partition even does much less estimate how big it should be. They may be part of the reason Linux isn't viewed in a favorable light amoung "IT" graduates (see other posts on the light-years differences between CS and "IT" degrees and students).
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I call it a "report" because It appears to me to be more Microsoft leak than an independent report. Many ./'ers take on Microsoft hatred as their pet peave, for me, it's bad journalism.
The timing of it is what leads me to beleive this. This is why I included the information about Moxi. Bill and company probably wern't very happy about all the ink Moxi got from CES especially since the founder also created WebTV before Microsoft bought them. Moxi was very secretive about their products before pulling back the curtain on them at CES. They even set up their company Rearden Steel to keep things as hush hush as possible.
I'm no Microsoft hater (or Mac or Linux or whatever for that matter). I prefer to be technologically agnostic, something often sadly missing from ./
I doubt very seriously we'll see free or low cost upgrades for the Xbox. Did MS even market it as an upgradable device?
I'm guessing if any upgrades to appear, they'll be pretty expensive.
There were 6 models of the floppyless iMac that did not offer CDRW, (in 99 the original & DV/SE, in 2000 an updated original, and updated DV, the DV+ and the DV SE)
Did do my research. Thanks for asking.
Apple put out 7 versions (in 99 the original & DV/SE, in 2000 an updated original, and updated DV, the DV+ and the DV SE, and 2001 the SE) of the iMac before the 2001 version of the SE which finally included a CDRW drive. None has offered a floppy drive.
So that means that it took 2 years and 7 models for the iMac to even offer removable, writable media of any kind. What did iMac users use to backup with? USB Jaz/Zip drives?
Apple should have done their research. But they'll never look silly because Mac fans and the media will still slather praise on them no mater what.
A PC needs removable yet writable media. Until CD Burners are as cheep as Floppies, the floppies need to stay. ./ regulars may not find them useful but people still use them to offload files for backup or sharing.
Grandma isn't going to buy a CD burner for her new iMac she uses to view those huge pictures of the grandkids and email her friends. She doesn't have a DSL connection so attaching them to an email may be to difficult. The easiest way for her to bring those files over to a friends house to show off is on a floppy.
I have no use for a floppy and don't see why I should pay for one.
Since you dont have many options when buying a mac, I guess you are stuck paying the extra $10 for that floppy drive.
Anyone who doesn't want to replace hardware every year. When buying a PC, even the non-geeks think down the road. Sure it's fast enough to do it's job, but is it fast enough to do tomorrow's job?
been on a college campus lately? Mac app pirating is RAMPANT.
I wonder what percentage of Photoshop users actually have legal copies.
But thats not how it's being marketed. That's the point of the Digital hub strategy. That's the point of the original iMac with no floppy drive and only USB connectors. That's the point of iPhoto, iTunes, i* etc.
Can we live without floppy drives? Certainly. The only reason to leave them out though is to reduce complexity. But when customers expect them to be there and it's the first thing they ask about, that's a good indication that you've got a problem.
Apple has a view of where PCs should be going and they are forcing it on consumers. Didn't they learn anything from NeXT?
to write something like this. Any criticisms of Apple open the flood gates of Apple fan's ire. Why cant Apple fans intelligently discuss the pros and cons of Apple's direction and decisions? The world isn't black and white and Apple isn't alwasy "brilliant" and Microsoft isn't always "evil". Apple's focus on case design (lets not give it any more credit than it's due) is troubling. What happens when that $1000 computer isn't so cool anymore? You've got a frustrated customer who feels like they've got less than they paid for despite the fact that it is still a very usuable machine. Thats the danger of marketing form over function. If this cycle continues long enough, Apple's market share could erode even further. It's a computer, not a lifestyle.
Tron had a nifty environment and music, in Wargames the geek got the girl, but Whiz Kids was the best, I was 13 and it made me want to get a modem more than anything else.
Anyone else remember this show?
Was it Wendy or her "brother" Walter Carlos?
If you dont want to pay for listings, then buy a replay box. You'll notice that they are much more expensive, that is because both the TiVo and UltimateTV boxes are sold at a loss in anticipation of subscription revenues. The only use I'd have for a network interface is D/L programming to my PC. My guide updates via satellite and is always up to date (DirecTiVo)
Companies have hiring minimums, especially in these hard times. Sure you can find a job without a degree (or with the wrong one) but you wont make as much and will have a much harder time finding it.
with a CIS degree you can work on the helpline, with a MIS degree you can run the helpline,
with a CS degree you can create all the software the helpline people have to deal with for years after you;ve moved on to a new,more interesting project.
Another damned award show. Is there one EVERY weekend now? How often do these people need to congradulate themselves anyway?
Universities (smart ones) make a ton of money off of licensing intellectual property. Cornell may not have much of a case since they waited so long though.
and tarnishing his franchise in the process.
Is the faculty? If so, Microsoft's foray into educational computing (higher education in this case) must be more successful than is commonly perceived. Is it the media? Dont think so, college kids aren't big news watchers (dont follow up with stories about how you and your hallmates watched Dan Rather every night and all the Sunday Morning shows every weekend, I'm painting with a very large brush here). Is it the youthful lack of experience and tendency to buy into hype? Nail on the head. These kids haven't had to deal with a network full of chattering Windoze boxes. But why ask about Linux? Why not ask about UNIXes as a whole? I wonder if "Linux" isn't a turnoff to some. Is Linux perceived more as a lifestyle than a legitimate business operating system? Go ask the rest of these college type sporting tux stickers who couldn't tell you what a swap partition even does much less estimate how big it should be. They may be part of the reason Linux isn't viewed in a favorable light amoung "IT" graduates (see other posts on the light-years differences between CS and "IT" degrees and students).