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Tron Special Edition On Sale January 15th
Muddie writes: "OnVideo.org reminded me that on January 15 , Disney is releasing the "Tron 20th Anniversary Collector's Edition" (1982) on DVD and VHS. Directed by Steven Lisberger, the film stars Jeff Bridges, Bruce Boxleitner and Barnard Hughes. The 2 disc DVD set contains the remastered film with commentary by Lisberger, producer Donald Kushner and visual effects supervisors Harrison Ellenshaw and Richard Taylor, a new 75-minute "making-of" documentary "The Making of Tron", deleted scenes, original soundtrack music deleted from the film and more all for $29.99.
Check out all the happy details at Amazon's link"
Oh man, I haven't seen that movie in AGES and I loved it so much as a kid too :-) Anyway, go Tron on DVD! I hope it makes a fortune :-D!
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Remove the Greed which plagues mankind.
Well if you like Wendy Carlos or Journey, it is a great nastalgia blast. I loved the former at that time, but loathed the latter.
Sounds like a good buy. Wish all DVDs had a copy of the music soundtrack too.
Without this single movie, I doubt I would have anything to do with computers today. It is the spark that lit my flame of love for the digital world.
That and online pr0n.
... I wonder if the DVD disc leaves a bright trail of light behind it if you throw it...
In Soviet Russia, sig types you!
Why would you buy a copy of Tron? If you havn't seen it, I suggest renting it first. If you have seen it, and you still want to buy it, I suggest staring at some red and blue lights for a couple hours instead. The plot's better anyways...
Bruce Boxleitner was also the second captain on Babylon 5. Now if only they'd release that series on DVD...
Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes. --E. W. Dijkstra
Oh, wait: no region code, no Macrovision, easy still access... guess I'll keep it.
But damn was it expensive at the time. The only thing that tops this is the Buckaroo Banzai DVD! Now there's something I've been waiting for a looong time.
It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
OK, the special effects were OK and for their time revolutionary. But as someone who bought the widescreen DVD and watched it recently, I can tell you this also - I haven't seen a more boring movie, or one with worse acting, for a long, long time.
Bruce Boxleitner went on to "Scarecrow and Mrs. King", and then basically nothing that you've ever heard of, unless you're really hard core and count Bablyon 5. Strangely it didn't hurt Jeff Bridges all that much. And the rest of the cast... I was able to forget.
Bruce Boxleitner was also the second captain on Babylon 5. Now if only they'd release that series on DVD...
For THAT I'd buy a stand-alone DVD player.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
And it sucks just as much now as it did 20 years ago.
"Adequacy.org: Where congenital stupidity is not an option, but a requirement."
...of me dreaming about what goes on inside my Vic 20.
I wanted to know how to access the little tron bike game.
I was upset.
I was also like...8 or so.
I know how one goes about placing a banner add on /., but how does one go about placing a "story add?"
/. that posted with indignation about yahoo mixing news and advertising?
Isn't this the same
"Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!"
Wasn't this considered one of the biggest bombs Disney produced in the 80's? It was such a dry movie, an early example high budget special effects without a decent story to woo the audience.
Bah, gimme an ugly looking movie with excellent dialog and a plot I can care about.
Someone pulled the plug out by accident.
Imdb also advertises the release of the sequel to Tron, Tron 2.0. Hope it's not a flop
Imperium et libertas
Autocracy and freedom
Wendy rocks.
That was one of the coolest musical scores that I have heard in a long time.
Very orginal, cross between eletronic and classical. Timeless.
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I stopped liking this show when I was 7 or so. I don't know why, but I just couldn't watch it any more. Of course if theres enough interest in this then maybe there will be a remake... I can just see it now, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, and Will Smith in a Jerry Bruckheimer Production, TRON...
Shift happens. Fire it up.
Is there really that much that they can put on here that beats out the plain edition? It's not like this is Star Wars or Lord of the Rings. Is there that big a fan market for this movie? I have the plain edition DVD, and that's enough.
I can't imagine after all these years that there is a lot of extra material to add. The movie wasn't so popular that people sqirrelled away stuff from it for this eventuality. I don't see them coming up with much interesting footage, either "extra" or "making of".
Don't forget that Friday is Hawaiian shirt day.
is that this is just the first of many older movies going to be re-released on DVD with lots of other added extras and cool stuff. I mean, how cool would it be to have a bunch of extra edited scenes from back to the future, or the terminator or any other really great older movies? I say keep 'em coming . . . and that's why i'm going to buy my copy :)
(not to mention that i love the movie too
K
does anyone else find it funny that amazon has a "used price" for this movie directly above the paragraph explaining that the movie isn't even released yet?
maybe it's just their patented one-click time-travel system.
Or maybe 14th if you'r lucky...
I hope this "Special Edition" includes the French audio track that the regular edition from a couple years back included. This movie makes far more sense in French. It's too weird in English. Bit saying "oui" and "non" makes more sense, I think.
Cryptnotic
My other first post is car post.
I'll re-post an Anonymous Coward submission from yesterday. I'm not taking credit, but it applies again:
Slashdot (to MPAA): You fucking fascists. We hate you.
MPAA: But look at these shiny colors!
Slashdot: Oooh! How much?
Any computer geek who is bashing this movie obviously hasn't been around that long. Yes the movie was a financial flop as it was over the heads of 99.9% of the people who might have seen it when it was released in 1982, but the fact remains that a majority of its plot holds true to what the internet is today. Heck, I bet you could draw great parallels between Tron and the open source movement. Replace the MCP with Microsoft, attempting to squash all competition. Place the users and their programs seeking a free system, up against the evil MCP, and voila. Yes, the special effects are pitiful by todays standards, yes the acting isn't that great, but as a whole, the movie was and still is a great movie for computer geeks to watch.
I'm I the only one who finds the practice of releasing a "vanilla" DVD, then releasing a "extra groovy" DVD six months or a year later totally annoying?
One more reason to rent-rip-burn. Bastards.
-Peter
Tron kicked ass. It's really cool that they're bringing that out on DVD. My question is, when are they bringing out Black Hole on DVD? I have maximillion tatooed on my right arm, and a killer clown from outer space on my left.
Trn was a great movie for kids and the lame effects of that time. but it would have been better and even could have been a rival to many other movies at that time if it wasn't a Disney production... come on there was no guts, violence or any sex in it...that would have been cool seeing them getting bitwise... ok ok....
the problem is that they watered the movie down and dumbed it down..
although you want a bad disney sci-fi movie? rent The Black Hole.... oh man that one sucked.... and I had the Toys and action figures from that.... Maximillion was cool though...
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Found this interesting bit from: http://www.theforbidden-zone.com/mgm.html
Okay, this is the biggie! Disney is finally realizing that one of the few things they did right in the 80s was Tron. Sure, it wasn't a
big success at the time, but it was way ahead of its time. Remember, the Wizard of Oz wasn't a huge success when it first came out, either. Now Disney is putting out a super deluxe Tron 20th Anniversary DVD and even working on a sequel (Tron 2.0 -- perfect title, eh? Coming Attractions came up with it first as a joke, then life imitated art). In addition to the film, there were also two darn good arcade games. I spent many a quarter on the one with the light cycles. So, there it is. A light cycle ride! This could be a fantastic high speed dark ride using black light effects and state-of-the-art imagery. Plus, they could sell a lot of DVDs in the gift shop (Disney always builds a gift shop with every ride nowadays). This ride has great cross-generational appeal for us old fogies who saw the original as kids, and the new chumpers coming up. I'm salivating just thinking about it!
I have wood.
Tron rules, those bikes and the flying red things and the guy who lived on top of his own video game arcade and the little bit thing that was a bit. And Wargames. Didn't that also totally rule. If there was a movie showdown Tron v. Wargames I think Wargames would win because it had more real people and Ferris and even Ally Sheedy or somebody who perhaps wasn't Ally Sheedy I don't know I get confused.
They should include the old arcade video game as a DVD-ROM extra! That'd make my buy it. Actually 4 mediocre games in 1, that became more than the sum of it's parts, it was kinda fun. There was a light cycle game, a game where you shot spiders (though I don't think they were internet spiders back then), a breakout-esque game where you had to break through the cylinder to the MCP, and one more that I can't remember right now. It had the movie soundtrack, and that was kind of cool for a video game back in the day.
Don't forget that Friday is Hawaiian shirt day.
I just bought Natural Born Killers , and it advertised "Deleted Scenes" but thoes scenes wernt in the movie, they were in a seperate menu, and some of them would have helped the movie. in Gladiator same thing.. the Delted out takes cant be made part of the viewing experiance yet add to the movie. Snatch on the other hand allowed me to add the scenes into the movie. So what will Tron allow me to do?
The More Knowledge you have the Luckier you Get- J.R. Ewing
Is it me or does the Amazon link have a "refer" parameter in it. Saaaaay.... you wouldn't be posting this to boost your Amazon Associate sales would you?
"Al Gore... This guys a real visionary. His favorite movie is tron for Christsake!" -- Dennis Miller
I am not a number! I am a man! And don't you
Quick, go buy it for $18.21, and yes - it is the collector's DVD version. You can get the VHS version for something like $12.
:)
The theme of big time execs stealing the small person's ideas is relevant even today.
BTW, the film won a 1982 academy award for Best Costume Design.
Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do.
Buy a PS2 instead
then u can play the game
'There is a Light that never goes out.'
The idea that programs live a life inside a computer is pretty darn clever and not "dry" at all. Besides our whole idea of what cyberspace is supposed to look like derives from Tron (neon, grids, etc). Granted, I'd dump the whole nonsense about Flynn's arcade and the love triangle if I were making the movie.
Note also that there were funky TRON toys and a TRON video game.
As a movie, it was a B-movie sci-fi. As entertainment it had plenty of sporty action. As literature it's like a bazooka wrapper. At 22.00 it's over-priced. Bring it down to say 10-12 and I'll buy it. I mean really, blade runner is 19.00 for the standard, which has the alternate ending.
Disney needs to remember Walt's motto of making entertainment that kids and adults both enjoy that leaves a lasting message. Walt believe in making art and money, not just making money.
Read the story HERE
Wow, looks like its time to rescind those EFF and GNU donations. That money should be going where its needed -- straight into the pockets of the loveable Disney crowd and the MPAA!
MPAA and Disney FOREVER!
I want one! I've loved this movie since I was a little kid. It's kind of what started me into the world of geekdom. Though I guess I was always a geek, this was just the coolest thing I ever saw and I knew I wanted to be involved in something that looked that COOL!
Is it advertising? Mebbe, do I care? Not really.
Everytime I hear anything about this movie I remember what Dennis Miller said about Al Gore... "This man is the Vice President?! His favorite movie is 'Tron' for fucks-sake!"
Oh that will cost me some karma.
An ambitious hacker (Tom Hanks) transports himself into his Windows XP Home Edition computer to pull off the ultimate hack: to free Internet Explorer from Windows. Along the way he becomes attached to a flighty email virus (Meg Ryan) and the two are chased by the Matrix's Agent Smith as they are shuttled from computer to computer around the world. Can he find his Passport home?
Supposedly the DVD will contain deleted scenes of Hanks gaping at all the porn on people's computers and a 30 minute documentary about how difficult it was for him to lose his tan for the part.
</SARCASM>
thanx for posting that link,now that i know it does exist...oh yes it will be mine
It's kinda funny, I picked this nickname for Slashdot in a moment of sillyness, and hadn't seen the movie in quite a few years, but I since bought the DVD and found that I actually like the movie much more as an adult than I did as a kid. I guess I'll have to get the new deluxe set and give my old DVD to my cousins.
I submitted this article from the San Francisco Chronicle about the anniversary last week (rejected, naturally). It has a nice discussion about the film's creation and influence.
Wow, Disney, the company supporting the SSSCA laws which could eliminate free software as we know it (http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/19/ 1546246), is getting free advertising and endorsements by who? Why, Slashdot of course. Yes, folks, it's your civic duty for the sake of free software to boycott Disney and have nothing to do with them (unless they happen to make a movie that is "cool", in which case, go buy it!!!)
Make up your minds people.
You know, you'd think with Disney's constant backing of DRM, as well as basically funding the SSSCA, that /. would encourage a boycott of them, and not encourage supporting them, regardless of what products they have to offer.
/. can and should be a place where actions start. If anyone else feels the same way, please make your voices heard, or at least contact me.
I would love Tron on a collectors DVD as much as the next geek, but until Disney starts respecting our rights, I won't be buying it. Mod me down if you want, but I feel that
who is the co-author of the screenplay, is Alan Kay's (Smalltalk, Xerox PARC, etc.) wife. There are a lot of obscure references to Alan and PARC in TRON. Alan even made a prototype "monitor in a desk" later on at Apple.
Alan went on to work for Disney for a while, recently departing.
:) That's what inquiring minds would like to know!
See deleted scenes
I can look at this. Then I can look at your copy of Tron on betamax.
So lets have a story promoting not only the MPAA and the advancement of DVDs, but link to the sale of it on Amazon!
You could have at least linked to 800.com or something.. GO SLASHDOT!
Free Mac Mini
You know the screenwriter hasn't "gotten it" when the computer's OS terminates each interactive session by typing or saying (in a pretentious synthetic voice):
"End of Line"
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
Hopefully my full size '82 Tron arcade game will skyrocket in value!!!
Why can't they make a movie with the goatse guy? How about a remake of Innerspace? They could have Will Smith fly the alien ship from ID4 right up there...
It didn't come close to blade runner, 2001 or videodrome
:)
Wow, Videodrome. Now THAT was a wacked out movie. I keep that one up there with Santa Sangre and Naked Lunch. My father-in-law absolutely loved Tron so I'll be getting this for his collection. I remember it from when I was a kid, but not all that well. I do remember kicking ass in Tron Discs at Spaceport, however
Intelligent Life on Earth
Yes, it drives me absolutely nuts.
Disney's marketing practices thoroughly enrage me. When I first got a Disney DVD and it made me watch Disney home video ads before my movie, I was immediately pissed off.
I buy a lot of DVDs. There are far more old movies that I want on video than I can afford to buy at any given time, and I have no particular order that I feel I need to buy them in. So, if a studio makes nice releases of their movies on DVD, I'm inclined to look for movies from them next time. If they make lousy releases, I'm inclined to look elsewhere.
So Disney is pretty low on my purchase priority list. Every time I see a Disney DVD in the store, or on Amazon, that I'm interested in, I think "Hmm, I'd like to have that movie, but it'll have ads on it, and they'll probably come out with a deluxe edition in six months anyway. I'll get it some other time." And I buy two Warner Brothers DVDs instead because they're cheap.
Why are DVDs so expensive?
One scene you may expect to see on the new DVD is shown here: http://www.tronfan.com/deleted/ds1.html Also, this answers the "no sex" complaint posted earlier...
How come slashdot make the whole sales pitch for the thing, price and everything then put the amazon link with id included in it. Something a bit dodgy me thinks.
But I know of a store that has it already.
/.'ers are in the NY metro area, Perfect Music over at the Newport Mall in Jersey City has it.
If any
Dunno what the price is, but they're usually competitive enough. They usually get all those new releases early - Fast & Furious way back before Xmas.
you must have played the game.
The Tron Arcade Game.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain with all your metadata.
I can't wait!
Buy all the DVD's you like, but what I want is the big black desk with the monitors built into it and the virtual keyboad. I'd even consider a room-addition on to my house just to hold the damn thing (well, I'd have to because I don't have anywhere to put it).
Actually, The concepts set forth in neuromancer (which, in the copy I have, shows the earliest publishing date as 1984) were first introduced in his short story works, notably "Johnny Mnemonic" and "Burning Chrome", of which at least one was published in 1978 or 79. I cant find my copy of that particular collection, unfortunately, but I'm fairly certain that is the case.
Besides, the concepts set forth in Tron weren't exactly what we would call cyberspace...it was really just a personification of all those 0s and 1s (main character aside).
when all is said and done, all a man has left are his blades and his honor.
Do we or do we not have a boycot of MPAA DVDs? ??
"Has anyone here seen the movie Tron?"
"No" "No" "No" "No" "No" "No" "No" "Yes... oh wait, I mean No"
I don't feel like paying $29.99 and wanna download it from someone's "share" instead ;-)
"Hey, Bit, should I buy this?"
YESYESYESYES...
Man, I loved that movie when I was a kid. That, and Wargames, and D.A.R.Y.L. I was a perfect little nerd boy. Of course, if I could meet myself as a kid now, I'd sigh, ruffle my younger self's hair, and explain things like sports and friends and maybe even dating... (wait, I still haven't figured that one out, much less girls or boys)
I wanted a light cycle (though not quite so fast, a whatever-that-big-thing-was-that-got-chopped-away- from-beneath-Jeff-Bridges, and, most of all, my very own Bit. (Pretty sad, I thought it would be my friend)
Oh, yeah, Tron got me into learning ASCII and keyboard control codes, too, once I learned there was a code for [EOL](end of line).
Get off my launchpad!
why do I get the feeling that link gives the poster a certin amount of $ for every pre-order that it takes.... Do yourself a favor and if you want the movie go to one of the dvd price searchers and find it MUCH cheaper.
You know, I was riding in the car today with two Malaysians, an African, and a New Zealander. We were talking about Zone X DVDs.
Turns out, one of the Malaysians purchased a 100% bonified good DVD (Final Fantasy, I think) and couldn't play it in his DVD player. The reason? His DVD player is region-free.
He commented that the pirated versions of the movies play just fine.
Then I said, and this really surprised myself: "I would like to be a DVD/CD pirate. No, not to make lots of money, but it seems like the right thing to do."
When I realised that I was serious, and that it really truly *IS* the right thing to do. Someone needs to ensure that when a guy buys a player and some media, that it will actually play.
What sort of idiots would allow a situation where someone can buy a player legitimately, buy some media legitimately, and not be able to use it? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
fifth sigma, inc.
The irony here is thick. Tron, the only movie where the bad guy was ICE, an intrusion countermeasures routine written by a huge evil corporation, is now released on a video format protected by... intrusion countermeasures... developed by a huge evil corporation.
If Bill Gate's house bluescreens tomorrow pinning him under the refrigerator till he asphyxiates, I don't think the irony would get any thicker.
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What happens when you outlaw guns
hell yeah, i'll buy this thing tomorrow... i hope "the computer wore tennis shoes" comes out next. i love that movie! if it is available, someone let me know?
Was anyone else incredibly pissed that Tron lost an Oscar to Gandhi for *BEST COSTUME*???!?!!
I was. That was the turning point. From then on, I knew the oscars were a complete sham.
Come on; a bunch of freakin' sheets beat out the most yummy high tech other worldly costume design to have ever graced the big screen?
I seem to recall a "making of" special that aired on TV about the time the film was released. Is that the one that's included, or is this a new one?
And how many folks here remember "Automan"? A TRON ripoff, if there ever was one, at least for SFX.
Oh yeah, if you have the original DVD, check out the plot summary on the back cover. Read closely, and you should get a chuckle out of the error you find there. Wait..., maybe it isn't an error. :)
That light you see at the end of the tunnel might be from an oncoming train.
Darth Vader, pointing to Boba Fett: "Et pas de disintegrations!"
Years after seeing that, it still makes me laugh.
It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
I just bought the therical version, dammit!
now I am going to have to buy that one too.
Why not? Technology has advanced a lot since it was made, why are the editors the only ones who get to have fun? Re-render the whole thing, and replace that old tech with new stuff. I mean, for pity's sake, we have texture-mapping now!
Edith Keeler Must Die
Forget Amazon. It sucks. Buy.com has it for $20.49
Jakobud
No credit for David Warner? He was the Master Control Program for goodness sakes!
If Star Trek wasn't around to give us the Borg, Slashdot would instead be depicting Gates as the MCP.
Is this truly the only Earth I can live on?
"Alan went on to work for Disney for a while, recently departing."
Isn't this the same guy who came up with "squeak"?
What's tron?
"And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the World"
1 John 4:14
"If anyone else feels the same way, please make your voices heard, or at least contact me."
*peep* Oh wait, that didn't show up.
Guess that says a lot their.
even when this movie came out (um, I was 12), I was way too teckie to appreciate it ... "anthropomorphisation of comuters? pul-eeeze...". /Pascal "Tron" command, either).
:)
Now I work in a company called Business-Tron [sic], and *nobody (apart from me) knows the movie* (arghhh!) (none of them are 1337 h4x0r enough to know the old BASIC
Nowadys, of course, I just say to myself "Wooooo! What were these guys *on*? Gimme some..."
[/annoying tangent]
yes, we have no bananas
the Final Fantasy movie???
Source: Burning Chrome, 1987 edition published by Ace.
Proteus' Child
Doko ni datte; hito wa, tsunagette iru.
I'm pretty much convinced that /. has delegated all story submission reviewing and accepting/rejecting to a not-very-well-trained chimp. That would explain the propensity for duplicate postings, and why good submissions get rejected, and then a crappy submission about the same thing gets accepted. I can't think of any other reason for such screwups, can you?
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds. - Captain Hammer
The DVD includes the cut love scene.
The video game is available for MAME.
Oddly, this does not seem to hold true for 80's era video games, many of which still have very compelling gameplay despite the now-dated graphics. It's a pity that by the time those legally hit the public domain, there won't be anything left of them.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Seemed like a logical step... I mean, a cyber-movie on VHS? Seems a little, uhm... oxymoronic.
Bruce Boxleitner isn't the only Tron/B5 connection. Peter Jurasik, B5's Londo, is in it too.
Wow, looks like its time to rescind those EFF and GNU donations.
On the contrary, whenever I buy anything produced by a member of RIAA or MPAA, I make a donation to EFF matching the product's retail price. I learned about this from another Slashdot reader. Call it "penance" if you will.
Will I retire or break 10K?
I never figured out why no one attempted to make the 3D video game Jeff Bridges was playing in the movie. Now that would have been an awesome game!
Anyone else notice that the Amazon link has a ref-id on it? I wonder if it's the poster or someone else who's earning off of that?
yes indeed - Alan was frustrated for many years because all the versions of Smalltalk that were available were closed-source or expensive. (I think ParcPlace wanted something like $2000 a cpu for a while.)
When he stopped working at Apple, he was able to get Apple to open-source their version of Smalltalk - hence Squeak. Its pretty neat.
Yeah, it's late in teh discussion and no one would see this if I didn't attach it to a highly moderated comment... so sue me...
GLTRON
With Linux, Win32, MacOS and OSX versions available... woohoo!
They never did come out with the actual Tron game of driving the Tank around like in the arcade. Sigh. I almost wrote it myself at one point.
Did anyone else out there buy the first edition of "Seven"? 2-disc set, looked cool, great movie--I bought it. Of course, their concept of an acceptable 2-disc set was where the user is forced to switch discs with ~20-25 minutes remaining in the movie. Major-league rip-off.
Then "The Princess Bride" came out. Most of the people who were the target audience had time to buy it (like me), then they released the Special Edition DVD.
Then there was "Army of Darkness", and now Tron. Tron was DVD number #3 for me, behind ST-FC and The Matrix. And yes, it's been a few years, but God #@%!#$@% Dammit--this practice is really pissing me off.
I wish they'd let us return the old one for a rebate on the purchase of the new one. Even Microsoft offers a discount for their corruptgrades, er, I mean upgrades.
Turambar
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Common sense is not so common.
--Voltaire
You know you're a scifi geek when you recall that the 1976 Doctor Who story "The Deadly Assasin" features a part in which the hero and villian enter into a virtual world that exists within the ultra-mega-super-duper computer that their people have and face off in deadly combat.
Being very young in the "IBM" era and only realizing what was going on then now that I am older I am absolutely amazed at the atnti-IBM undertones of sci-fi in the era. A few examples:
MCP = IBM in Tron
HAL + 1 letter is IBM; 2001 A Space Odessy
BladeRunner's director Ridley Scott also did the 1984 Apple commercial -- a blatant anti-IBM theme
What other examples are there? Why don't we see such anti-MS undertones in scifi today? Is MS PR that much better then IBM PR at the time? The only example that I can think of was that not-so-popular movie "Anti-Trust" which was a MS satire complete with cameos from Scott McNeay and Miguel de Icaza.
I hope you're joking.
They want to release *their* products at their discretion, and you want to take that away from them?
"I hate strangers who don't let me use their bathrooms when I knock on the door. One more reason to piss on their lawns."
Point the first: Don't buy the special edition DVD then.
Point the second: If *no one* buys the first DVD, then a special edition DVD is *unwarranted*
Point the third: I never even *knew* there was a first edition DVD. I look forward to buying the special edition.
Point the fourth: Your money is your discretion, their product is their discretion. You have full control over your spending habits, they have full control over their release cycle. Any transaction here is a *voluntary* one.
GPL Deconstructed
I was a geek
I was working for a video game company
The whole company took the afternoon off to see the premier of the film.
I didn't yet hate Disney
But even then, back in the summer of '82, I thought it was a lame movie. Why would I want to spend thirty bucks on it now?
I guess it's like every Star Trek cover picture on TV Guide -- if it's got geek appeal, it sells. Sad.
...Nothing interesting here. Just move along...
He commented that the pirated versions of the movies play just fine.
Why? Because they're region free as well. I'd bet my bottom dollar that he probably has an early Apex player. Those (as well as a few others) had the ability to turn region coding on and off at will (you can change it in the Setup menu).
The catch came when RCE (Region Coding Enhancement) became the norm a few years ago. I remember clearly that one of the first titles to utilize this feature was The Patriot (let's take note that Final Fantasy was released by the same company, Columbia TriStar). If you player didn't specifically state it was region 1 hardware-wise, it wouldn't play the DVD.
You know what the real irony of this is? Is that if you change your Apex player (or whatever brand, mind you) back to Region 1, you could fix the problem and play the DVD.
Then I said, and this really surprised myself: "I would like to be a DVD/CD pirate. No, not to make lots of money, but it seems like the right thing to do."
Christ, what kind of ego-driven self-serving comment is that? Yeah, you wouldn't make money off of it, you'd just do it out of the kindness of your heart. It's comments like these that tell not only your age, but your maturity.
Instead of paying the studios and filmmakers for their work you'd rather rip them off. If actors/directors/writers/etc don't sell units, don't sell tickets, don't move these products, they're out of jobs. So please excuse me if I don't jump on the soapbox and proclaim that stealing is somehow beneficial to the artist(s).
What sort of idiots would allow a situation where someone can buy a player legitimately, buy some media legitimately, and not be able to use it? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
Here's a question: what kinds of DVD idiots are
a) too dumb to turn the player back to its proper region (which will fix the problem)
b) buying pirated versions in the first place?
You can yell from the mountaintops how great it is to steal from people but the fact remains: there are plenty of folks who live off those DVD dollars. Movies aren't released around the world simultaneously (albeit a few of the bigger blockbusters), so sometimes a Region 1 DVD will appear in the states before it's even in theaters across the Atlantic/Pacific.
Example: Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back won't be released in Australian theaters until March. The Region 1 DVD comes out in February. Now if all those Australians get pirated copies of that great (and hilarious) film, who gets paid and who gets the shaft? Kevin Smith and his cronies for their hard work and great talent, or a money-grubbing hack who wants to earn a buck and cry "Free speech!" everytime someone accuses him of stealing?
People can complain about region coding all they want, but the solid evidence supporting the practice is right here.
Alan Kay, Smalltalker and Squeaker extraordinaire, was the inspiration for the main character in TRON.
Alan and one of writers of Tron (Bonnie MacBird) were subsequently married.
Am I the only one who thinks tron should be a program to typeset man pages?
(tron:troff::less:more)
My father is a blogger.
As a newly-minted MCSE, I will give voice to something I have always wondered about but never asked about...was the title Microsoft Certified Professional, with the initials MCP, an in-joke about Tron and the perception of Microsoft as The Evil Empire?
End of line.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
Oh come fucking on. You actually think it's good that they are preventing people from watching movies they bought, just because they're too fucking lazy to issue the movie all at once around the world?
What no mention on /. about the release of the Buffy the Vampire Season 1 dvd's coming out on Jan. 15?
Just like the end of Animal Farm...
purists don't want a remastered film !
Thbey want the original thing !
Trolling using another account since 2005.
First, I loved Tron in the theatres. Yes, I'm that old. But this is like the second time in 2 days that /. has gone completely giddy about a classic motion picture industry release onto DVD. The problem? We're all whipped up into a happy frenzy about the very same industry which the vastly-prevailing attitude here hates for disrespecting basic fair use rights. If I recall correctly, Disney was behind Tron. Now, isn't Disney one of the worst offenders when it comes to denying fair use? All I'm saying is if you go out waving the Disney flag and buy this DVD, think twice before poo-poo'ing the rest of the MPAA and rights-management(/denial) industry.
...(Sp)Amazon, please, for two reasons.
First, assuming you have media merchants in your home town for DVD's, CD's, etc., don't you think they deserve your business before some faceless mail-order house?
Second, Amazon did not earn the nickname 'Spamazon' for nothing. They have a long history of spamming anyone who gives them an E-mail address. Just ask the folks on the Usenet group news.admin.net-abuse.email.
Mod this down if you want. I don't much care. Personally, though, you couldn't PAY me to buy it from Jeff Bezos and his spammish inquisition.
Bruce Lane, KC7GR,
Blue Feather Technologies
Hey, that's a great idea!
And while we're at it, let's go back to some other classic movies, like, say, Star Wars, and slather them with new modern-day CGI, and even rewrite some scenes that we've decided we don't like!
And let's colorize Citizen Kane!
Editor Emeritus and Senior Writer, TeleRead.org
How'd they get Moses to play the part of the villian?
[PowerPoint] is a tool for capitalist presentation
Tron had a nifty environment and music, in Wargames the geek got the girl, but Whiz Kids was the best, I was 13 and it made me want to get a modem more than anything else.
Anyone else remember this show?
But you're missing the fact that some of the users wrote several programs. This sets the TRON world up as an offshoot of standard polythestic religion.
The main difference between this and standard polythestic religions is that, while aware of the existence of multiple users, the programs only "worship" one of them. Most polythestic religions had people offering prayers to whichever diety they believed to hold the most power over their current situation. That is the point you should be focusing on in trying to classify it further.
--The Rizz
"What does God want? Does God want goodness or the choice of goodness? Is a man who chooses the bad perhaps in some way better than a man who has good imposed upon him?" --Anthony Burgess
It is suprising how many movies are only avaiable as Region 1 discs. This just one more for the list.
I would love to get this movie on DVD but I have a Region 2 only player (Toshiba SD210). I could get it chipped but this is expensive (£75) and I don't really fancy it.
Ferris Bueller's Day Off and Breakfast Club are other examples.
No no, don't colorize it, re-cut it so it's in chronological order.
(Aparently a film class did this once and report that it's pretty watchable in that condition)
~~~~~ BigLig2? You mean there's another one of me?
It was delivered on Saturday 12th January 2002 - 3 days before its official release date :-)
Not actually had a chance to watch it, mind you...
Nothing.
From this pageIn 1982, Sperry had something called OS1100
And Burroughs had A-Series mainframes running an OS called...
wait for it...
MCP!
I kid you not!
Ahh - My eye!
The doctor said I'm not supposed to get Slashdot in it!
Ha ha! Jeff Bridges is Bill Gates! Little geek who takes on the huge corporation and wins, spreading computing to the masses! Then, when he gets money and power, he becomes the evil corporation! How ironic! We need a sequel to Tron where Jeff Bridges, now the megalomaniac ruler of a global computer corporation, sends himself into the Internet to destroy a virtual Penguin program nibbling at his empire. We can have him meet his old Tron program (guarding some archaic server somewhere), wistfully remember his idealistic youth, and then DESTROY IT for not being compatible with .NET. See the Penguin riding a motorcycle through the grid, being chased by giant Jeff Bridges. Ha! Think of the possibilities!
The Moore-Murphy Law: The number of things that will go wrong will double every 2 years.
Falling revenues bring back a sad attempt at encapsulating technology into a movie. Warning, incoming game. What a pile of shit. I'll bet you /.'ers will jump on this "deal". Brain dead douche bags! Yowsers!
I don't think it's inline with the movie though, I think it's included as an extra.
I heard Disney Interactive was coming out with some video games based on TRON. I know for a fact that about 10 years ago they started a 3D lightcycle game, but some pointy haired boss canned it because 'nobody would be interested in buying them'.
I have a copy of the basic prototype they made back then, but now there are freeware TRON lightcycle games that are better.
A full set of the textures and models they used would be a cool extra.
And, for those of us who are still boycotting Amazon.com for the abuse of their "one-click" ordering patent - here is a link to find books, movies and music at other retailers BESIDES Amazon: http://www.noamazon.com/
Does anyone know the status/release date of Pixar's remake of Tron?
---gralem
Well if you studied at English schools, your parents must be anglophones. Try to get a child into the english language system now if both of the parents did not attend english language schools outside Quebec. Note that the regulation catches most allophones.
The link to amazon.com that I submitted with the story doesn't benefit me in any way -- I'm not *that* much of a whore ;-)
:)
The link was actually just the first, fastest link to an easy list of technical details about the movie, though I'm jealous that I didn't think of that (jk)
It probibly was in poor taste to link it to amazon, but linking to the IMDB would also have a link to amazon as well.
At least the first link was to an independent source
--Larry
I loved TRON as a kid..it was my first DVD I purchased and I'll be rushing out to buy the 20th anniversary edition..Too Cool!
I still think the effects look cool, even today. Hehe it even inspired me to write a disc fighting game http://www.discsoftroff.com , not exactly quake but hey its a bit of fun.
Cheers All
Dale
Please do not patronize the sponsor of the extension of the copyright term.
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I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
And i remember when Homer Simpson went into 3D space and tried to describe it:
Homer:"Did you watch the movie tron?"
Everyone: No.
Kilroy was here!
I wondered about the geneology of the idea of cyberspace - specifically, the projection of a metaphor of inhabitable space onto networked computers
And both were preceded by John Varley's "Overdrawn at the Memory Bank" (NOT the horrible movie, this is a really good short story) from the 70s. The first "cyperspace" I know of is Philip K. Dick's Maze of Death and to some degree Ubik (both mid 60s).
Spoiler alert! - do not read further if you don't want to know the plots of the PKD books.
The first is a group trapped in a dreamworld created by a computer to keep them sane, the second is a machine holding a group in some sort of electronic afterlife.
BTW, I think Dick should get credit for much of that 90's Gnostic stuff you mentioned.
It's true. I'm on the team. It'll be good. Watch out! whee!
"America, I smoke marijuana every chance I get."
I'm really off topic here. He's talking about copyright violation as a joke, and I respond to his comment, and I'm off topic. Haha.
Anyway, this guy's been modded up to 5 or something. It's not a good view; a valid view, maybe, but not a good one, I don't think.
GPL Deconstructed
Wow, you're just slacking there.
I mean, hell, if I were to pick up the special version of Army of Darkness, I'd have 4 copies of just that one. (VHS, VHS Special Ed., DVD, DVD Special Ed.)
I don't know my exact count, but well, that's why one of my friends talked me into reviewing DVD special features:
Dogma (sp.ed vs. regular)
One of these days, we might actually post some of the other reviews. (comparing both versions of The Princess Bride, Dune [Lynch vs. SciFi], The Holy Grail, etc.)
Build it, and they will come^Hplain.
Dillinger = bill gates (some guy that steals other peoples ideas for programs)
MCP = win XP (master control program that thinks its god)
Christ, what kind of ego-driven self-serving comment is that? Yeah, you wouldn't make money off of it, you'd just do it out of the kindness of your heart. It's comments like these that tell not only your age, but your maturity.
They do no such thing. People of all ages and "maturity" levels feel that way. Just because you don't understand or agree with someone doesn't make them inferior to you.
Instead of paying the studios and filmmakers for their work you'd rather rip them off. If actors/directors/writers/etc don't sell units, don't sell tickets, don't move these products, they're out of jobs.
They do get payed, over and over and over - that is why some people are objecting. Right or wrong, they feel that the greater moral wrong is to keep wanting money ("oh you thought you bought that movie? Oh no, you payed for a LICENSE to watch it")
You can yell from the mountaintops how great it is to steal from people but the fact remains:
...that its not stealing. Stealing is taking a physical object. Copying a movie is not stealing, its a copyright violation, but its not stealing.
Its not stealing because you are not taking something from the other party - wether you copy or not they have lost nothing. Sure, they (and you) argue that if you didn't copy something, then you would buy it instead and they would get some money and now they have lost that money! It's a specious argument, and following that kind of logic you could go to a job interview, fail to get the job and then sue the company for all the salaries you now won't be getting!
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back won't be released in Australian theaters until March. The Region 1 DVD comes out in February. Now if all those Australians get pirated copies of that great (and hilarious) film, who gets paid and who gets the shaft?
And who is to blame? The movie companies of course! Their customers have repeatedly shown that they want to see things NOW, not weeks, months or years from now, for many reasons (talking about a movie on the internet is one of them for instance) And if they can't figure it out people have started to turn to the net for that - and not just dorm kids either, look at say Morpheus - more than half a million people on around the clock, and going up.
But perhaps they ARE figuring it out, one reason that Lord Of The Rings opened all over the world at once is probably because they knew that it would leak over the internet, and so they headed the pirates off at the pass as it were.
People can complain about region coding all they want, but the solid evidence supporting the practice is right here.
Where? You failed to demonstrate that. On the contrary the opposite is the case, if they DO not put region coding on DVD's people are more inclined to buy a genuine version - its one less reason to get a fake one. Though in many european countries they shops selling DVD players have started to region modify the players before putting them on sale.
Region coding was a stupid scheme to begin with and its dying out, if not in practice then certainly in effect.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Nothing substantial, just a bunch of graphics and a URL: http://www.tronkillerapp.com. Not sure if this is the sequel or a computer game...