Here's your prize, you've proven me wrong!;). It would seem that I should attempt to try ASP. Yeah, ISAPI seems to be alot higher performance for me. Sorry for jumping to conclusions, and thanks for the suggestions. Hrm, maybe "stride" is a proper term ^_^.
Also, I must mention that I admit to one thing-- the native Windows tools I did use work great and the server ran fine with them. However, Linux's serving capabilities outperformed them, even then. It about tied in performance for me with MySQL as an NT service.
I am amazed by your grasp of the obvious (I tested with natively unix server applications. I'm sure it took some deep thought to figure this out). Would you please point me to some natively Windows DBMS/scripting languages that you actually believe may compete with any open-source systems I mentioned?
I'm sorry, but for my purposes, and my standards, ASP will never be in my repertoire (sounding out the big words for you) of 'effective' scripting languages. See, I like to stride to use the fastest/cleanest native OS software available, and in my opinion, ASP is not better or faster in any way than PHP ISAPI.
Okay, to sum things up before I make my comment; I administrate and manage all utilities/page and data entry applications/database systems for a small business. My tests were pretty inconclusive for a range, but to sum things up fairly simply.
For the birth of the project: Windows 98 Second Edition with Apache-win32 and win32 Mysqld. Don't call me a nut for using this, the employer was insistent on running it on her own home machine at this time.
After this had been considerably slowed down to the point where she would wait literally minutes to insert information with my utility, I told her that maybe a Microsoft operating system is NOT the best server in the world, so we tested on an NT Server 5.0 (2000) box. It lasted the test of time for scalability, yet it was undoubtably slower then I knew was possible.
Finally, where it is now, it is running on a Linux/Redhat 7.1 box with not even a tenth of the ram the Windows NT5 box had, and 350mhz slower. By far, the Linux machine is faster, and hasn't slowed down noticeably at all with ~5000 new entries the database. I have no doubts that further tests would show the NT5 machine bogging down at this point and handling poorly.
Anyone interested in the further specifics of the...
NT5 machines setup: Windows 2000 Advanced(?) Server
PHP/4.0.4 used as an ISAPI module
IIS 5.0 (hey, don't flame me at all, as IIS runs in shared memory as a service, and is practically built specifically for the operating system, it out-runs Apache on this platform by far.).
Linux machines setup: Redhat 7.1 with updated security patches,
Apache 1.3.20,
PHP/4.0.6,
MySQL (latest stable).
I hate to contribute to the usual trolling, but from experience, I can say that Linux outperforms Windows (all versions mentioned) to an extreme degree!
You know what happens next? Some other freelance group of people will through together another decentralized sharing system, and this river will repeat, and repeat, and repeat.
I personally find that no matter how hard the RIAA tries, there will still be a network of people sharing music, software, etc, somewhere. It's sort of like prohibition.
The difference of Fusion and Cold Fusion in (sic) laymens terms:
Fusion, for example, occurs in our sun as any other star. Two gasses (chiefly hydrogen) collide at that extreme temperature, merging. In effect, this produces both an extreme quantity of energy albeit astronomical temperatures.
Cold Fusion, aside from a product by Allaire (lol:) is, at this time, mostly conceptual, and has never been achieved, although a group of scientists attempted this and shot off about it too quickly. Their tests were inconclusive, and the project was deemed unsuccesful and incorrect. The attempt was to produce cheap, hydrogen based power indefinetly, and further, have it run end-even (powers itself as well). In 'getting' the energy, but not the temperature, would make for a safe and powerful way to indefinetly power the world.
To sum it up, many people have tried to produce effective (working at the very least ^_^) cold fusion, but nobody has to date. Should someone complete a few hundred succesful tests of generating the cold fusion, then it is likely that a reactor, or at least an attempt to construct a reactor will be made again by the United States government, and then adopted by other countries.
Please note that this comes from a most-likely misinformed Canadian 14 year old whose field is x86 ASM, and most high-level languages in general; not science! Use this definition at your own risk!
This morning, I get to school. I go to library, and I check Slashdot. 'Cold Fusion' possible! Well, if that wasn't enough, I come back this afternoon before I leave, and, this device here is powerful enough to make mini black holes. I have a feeling by the time I go home, I'll click onto Slashdot and the number one article will be about some time travel machine;)
Rm, do you have any logical basis to tell me that something catacylsmic can happen using a fusion generator? Have you read all the other posts? It's almost _completely_ safe. Why almost? There is a certain room for err, which would result in, oh, getting hit with the same amount of radiation of dental x-ray technologies.
So, it comes down to the question of:
Are you afraid of dental x-rays?
John Ashcroft hears about this, then compiles an act in which using stenography classifies you as a terrorist and gives you life imprisonment in the court of law.
Unfortunately, I knew this had to happen. I use vim, and the second I even venture as far as to type 'emacs' in some line apart from this, then chances are pretty good that hell has frozen over, and helicopters are being pelted by multitudes of airbourne pigs.
Funny, we're alot bigger then the United States land-wise, you'd think that Bush would have it brightly coloured and labeled on his "special-George-Bush-only" map.
Nah, not with this article, but its still a relevant post. With all your DMCA crap and possibly the SSSCA, its time to pack and come to Canada (after reading the fscking post of course).
I thought it was a joke. Turns out it isn't:). I do find that "Invalid procedure call" is a perfect definition of Microsoft:P (its software in particular). To tell you the truth, I can't remember a Microsoft site that hasn't made sure to include their well-known invalid procedure calls!
Many comments posted go into great detail about how stupid these people are for purchasing; but really, although I don't condone it in anyway (if the primary servers go down, you got screwed for umm, what, 5000$? You can't go and get that back on those grounds), but, if people want to spend their savings on a ring of +10(or -20 in this case) intelligence (grin:), then that is their option.
Yeah, but that isn't the point, the point is anyone who wants to use say, Linux, is restricted to using their old systems. Heck, they may be up to date now, but given 25 years all our systems will be achaeic and out of date compared to all the new dual terahertz systems or whatever exists by then; each conforming to SSSCA on the BIOS level, and we'll be barely hanging on with what is left of todays legal tech. Brings me back to thinking about the prohibition laws, they will illegalize this, and you know what will happen? There will be a black market in chips and boards which don't conform to SSSCA for using any other operating system practically. This is all theoretical, but lets just hope and pray that SSSCA isn't passed, eh?
You are correct in every way, fortunately, this law may or may not be passed. However, if the law is passed, it will prove that the United States government is truly stupid and communist about internet/technology. I wouldn't throw it past *extremely* well-paid motherboard manufacturing companies for a second to use your signature system, and it sure would make Microsoft's day to see Linux become practically 'illegal' in the USA, because it might not be the world, but its a large block of it, and nobody can argue me there. This post comes from a happily Canadian citizen who will, if this law is passed, never touch a computer on US soil.
Don't know if you American folks have them, but there is a coffee restaurant called "the Second Cup" up here. Guess we know how they got their name now; attractive mottos like "Go anywhere else and you will die a slow and painful death" become effective if this news is publicized!
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Here's your prize, you've proven me wrong! ;). It would seem that I should attempt to try ASP. Yeah, ISAPI seems to be alot higher performance for me. Sorry for jumping to conclusions, and thanks for the suggestions. Hrm, maybe "stride" is a proper term ^_^.
Every time Microsoft has tried to secure IIS, it's more susceptible to attack, and about eight new worms take advantage of it. *shrug*.
Also, I must mention that I admit to one thing-- the native Windows tools I did use work great and the server ran fine with them. However, Linux's serving capabilities outperformed them, even then. It about tied in performance for me with MySQL as an NT service.
I am amazed by your grasp of the obvious (I tested with natively unix server applications. I'm sure it took some deep thought to figure this out). Would you please point me to some natively Windows DBMS/scripting languages that you actually believe may compete with any open-source systems I mentioned?
I'm sorry, but for my purposes, and my standards, ASP will never be in my repertoire (sounding out the big words for you) of 'effective' scripting languages. See, I like to stride to use the fastest/cleanest native OS software available, and in my opinion, ASP is not better or faster in any way than PHP ISAPI.
Okay, to sum things up before I make my comment; I administrate and manage all utilities/page and data entry applications/database systems for a small business. My tests were pretty inconclusive for a range, but to sum things up fairly simply.
...
For the birth of the project:
Windows 98 Second Edition with Apache-win32 and win32 Mysqld. Don't call me a nut for using this, the employer was insistent on running it on her own home machine at this time.
After this had been considerably slowed down to the point where she would wait literally minutes to insert information with my utility, I told her that maybe a Microsoft operating system is NOT the best server in the world, so we tested on an NT Server 5.0 (2000) box. It lasted the test of time for scalability, yet it was undoubtably slower then I knew was possible.
Finally, where it is now, it is running on a Linux/Redhat 7.1 box with not even a tenth of the ram the Windows NT5 box had, and 350mhz slower. By far, the Linux machine is faster, and hasn't slowed down noticeably at all with ~5000 new entries the database. I have no doubts that further tests would show the NT5 machine bogging down at this point and handling poorly.
Anyone interested in the further specifics of the
NT5 machines setup:
Windows 2000 Advanced(?) Server
PHP/4.0.4 used as an ISAPI module
IIS 5.0 (hey, don't flame me at all, as IIS runs in shared memory as a service, and is practically built specifically for the operating system, it out-runs Apache on this platform by far.).
Linux machines setup:
Redhat 7.1 with updated security patches,
Apache 1.3.20,
PHP/4.0.6,
MySQL (latest stable).
I hate to contribute to the usual trolling, but from experience, I can say that Linux outperforms Windows (all versions mentioned) to an extreme degree!
You know what happens next? Some other freelance group of people will through together another decentralized sharing system, and this river will repeat, and repeat, and repeat.
I personally find that no matter how hard the RIAA tries, there will still be a network of people sharing music, software, etc, somewhere. It's sort of like prohibition.
The difference of Fusion and Cold Fusion in (sic) laymens terms:
:) is, at this time, mostly conceptual, and has never been achieved, although a group of scientists attempted this and shot off about it too quickly. Their tests were inconclusive, and the project was deemed unsuccesful and incorrect. The attempt was to produce cheap, hydrogen based power indefinetly, and further, have it run end-even (powers itself as well). In 'getting' the energy, but not the temperature, would make for a safe and powerful way to indefinetly power the world.
Fusion, for example, occurs in our sun as any other star. Two gasses (chiefly hydrogen) collide at that extreme temperature, merging. In effect, this produces both an extreme quantity of energy albeit astronomical temperatures.
Cold Fusion, aside from a product by Allaire (lol
To sum it up, many people have tried to produce effective (working at the very least ^_^) cold fusion, but nobody has to date. Should someone complete a few hundred succesful tests of generating the cold fusion, then it is likely that a reactor, or at least an attempt to construct a reactor will be made again by the United States government, and then adopted by other countries.
Please note that this comes from a most-likely misinformed Canadian 14 year old whose field is x86 ASM, and most high-level languages in general; not science! Use this definition at your own risk!
This morning, I get to school. I go to library, and I check Slashdot. 'Cold Fusion' possible! Well, if that wasn't enough, I come back this afternoon before I leave, and, this device here is powerful enough to make mini black holes. I have a feeling by the time I go home, I'll click onto Slashdot and the number one article will be about some time travel machine ;)
Rm, do you have any logical basis to tell me that something catacylsmic can happen using a fusion generator? Have you read all the other posts? It's almost _completely_ safe. Why almost? There is a certain room for err, which would result in, oh, getting hit with the same amount of radiation of dental x-ray technologies.
So, it comes down to the question of: Are you afraid of dental x-rays?
If the project is a break-through, and is contained within Britain, how is the U.S. DMCA laws going to stop it?
John Ashcroft hears about this, then compiles an act in which using stenography classifies you as a terrorist and gives you life imprisonment in the court of law.
LOL! That is funny.
Unfortunately, I knew this had to happen. I use vim, and the second I even venture as far as to type 'emacs' in some line apart from this, then chances are pretty good that hell has frozen over, and helicopters are being pelted by multitudes of airbourne pigs.
Funny, we're alot bigger then the United States land-wise, you'd think that Bush would have it brightly coloured and labeled on his "special-George-Bush-only" map.
Nah, not with this article, but its still a relevant post. With all your DMCA crap and possibly the SSSCA, its time to pack and come to Canada (after reading the fscking post of course).
Canadianship? lol. Citizenship maybe, but Canadianship? No comment.
I thought it was a joke. Turns out it isn't :). I do find that "Invalid procedure call" is a perfect definition of Microsoft :P (its software in particular). To tell you the truth, I can't remember a Microsoft site that hasn't made sure to include their well-known invalid procedure calls!
Oh, and maybe name every astronaut "Gordon Freeman" :P
Many comments posted go into great detail about how stupid these people are for purchasing; but really, although I don't condone it in anyway (if the primary servers go down, you got screwed for umm, what, 5000$? You can't go and get that back on those grounds), but, if people want to spend their savings on a ring of +10(or -20 in this case) intelligence (grin :), then that is their option.
Yeah, but that isn't the point, the point is anyone who wants to use say, Linux, is restricted to using their old systems. Heck, they may be up to date now, but given 25 years all our systems will be achaeic and out of date compared to all the new dual terahertz systems or whatever exists by then; each conforming to SSSCA on the BIOS level, and we'll be barely hanging on with what is left of todays legal tech. Brings me back to thinking about the prohibition laws, they will illegalize this, and you know what will happen? There will be a black market in chips and boards which don't conform to SSSCA for using any other operating system practically. This is all theoretical, but lets just hope and pray that SSSCA isn't passed, eh?
You are correct in every way, fortunately, this law may or may not be passed. However, if the law is passed, it will prove that the United States government is truly stupid and communist about internet/technology. I wouldn't throw it past *extremely* well-paid motherboard manufacturing companies for a second to use your signature system, and it sure would make Microsoft's day to see Linux become practically 'illegal' in the USA, because it might not be the world, but its a large block of it, and nobody can argue me there. This post comes from a happily Canadian citizen who will, if this law is passed, never touch a computer on US soil.
Three cheers for not living in the United States!
Don't even get me started, you sad little republican.
woot!
Don't know if you American folks have them, but there is a coffee restaurant called "the Second Cup" up here. Guess we know how they got their name now; attractive mottos like "Go anywhere else and you will die a slow and painful death" become effective if this news is publicized!