hehe...i wonder how you would have felt with an 18" CRT. LCD is very crisp and doesnt ur eyes as much, but for things like photos and games, u want smooth more than u want crisp (hence antialiasing)
true, but what you are saying that nothing that can POSSIBLY come to any harm should be allowed. by that rule, just about EVERY modern programming language, operating system and useful piece of software should be thrown out and bashed, because it can be used for harm.
yes, you should watch these people so they dont DO anything bad, and try to make sure nothing happens, but there are also plenty of legitimate uses.
it really seems to me the ONLY point of all your discussion on this subject is that you will be pissed if u CANNOT break an established copyright...
it is exactly THAT: a right to copy or NOT copy...u might not like it, but it is defined by the ppl who make the software/format. all the other LAWS are indeed stupid, but all a watermark can do is help them track down illegal use: im not particularly a corporate fan, but they are strengthening their defense in an intelligent way: WITHOUT THE USE OF POINTLESS LAWS!!!
if you are doing something illegal, either be discrete about it, or stop doing it, but most definitely (not to sound like a troll...) stop whining. sure, ogg will remain oss, and so will all the oss video codecs, but if NO stupid laws are being passed, u are setting a bad example for potential users, making ppl think they SHOULD make laws...
would you rather have a warning that suggests 18 things for you to do that *might* fix your problem? i'm sure the error exactly what was going wrong, and most importantly, nothing more and nothing less....
namely, that microsoft actually considers unix a viable opponent worth spending dozens of millions of dollars on to advertise against it. i wonder how this anti-ad campaign will compare to that of all their other successfull ones (at least in their opinion) ala lotus et al.
annie hall (woody allen) was a great comedy. the problem lies in the fact that comedies these days are mostly slapstick and rather cheap humor; when a good comedy comes out such as annie hall the acedemy considers plenty...
personally, you can appeal to wide variety of audience (expanding it) without removing all the good gags. however, this seems to be a trend in the media;
executive: we need to broaden our audience
advisor: good idea, chief, but lets keep all the old intelligent humor so we don'y lose our old fans.
executive (feeling stupid): there was intelligent humor???
but in this case, it doesnt seem that the robot can do anything particularly useful. when they say, carry on a conversation, what do they mean? repeat the phrases its been told. or what?
it would be great to a cognitive robot going, something that can actually logically deduce and make conclusions as well as make associations within its environment. now THAT would be useful. sure, at first it wont sing songs or be of any entertainment value or anything of THAT sort, but it could eventually become the mechanical servant we all wish for:-)
that is the biggest illusion people have themselves running under. everyone seems to think the only problem with as you call it "truly AI computer", which doesnt even make much sense in itself, but ill give u the benefit of the doubt...
is computing power and parallel processing vs the inherently serial nature of todays conventional computing solutions. the benchmark idea is nice, but the BIGGEST problem with AI is trying to create a model that can handle every kind of input (and even one to start with would be nice) and be able to generalize concepts as well as learn independantly (without predefined associations between internal structure and external input).
computing power is nice, but we can't even create the correct models yet. even if its slow, at least it'll work. sure, DNA sounds nice...cause its biological ala humans, but beyond that, its just another computing method.
sounds like a prelude to asimov's robot fantasies. these things dont walk and talk yet, but he had the right idea with the three laws--otherwise, these things can be used for quite some nasty personal abuse, to say the least.
technically, there should be a formally defined system of punishment and reward, and survival quite clearly fits into the category of reward. however, in the case of robots, it is very difficult to define the punishment and reward except by self preservation. also, no one REALLY knows (including nietzsche) what we strive for, and the best thing we have thought of (as good as any) is self preservation. yuo say power is the goal? what is power. that seems quite a bit more vague than survival. how do u define power in humans, even, for example...and more importantly in this case, robots?
well, for one because it gets great press. software doesnt get much press. second of all, im sure they already TRIED using software and couldnt make enough hype about it. third, this is a ROBOT WARS judge! ofcourse he is going to use hardware. the article seems rather vague on what exact structure the neural nets have, and the info they DO give is kinda useless for experts and such since it is pretty much obvious how it is being done. hardware is more snazzy and makes more money, and looks cooler too. i mean c'mon, if yuo were doing this kind of experimint, wouldnt YUO want to do it w/ hardware too?
to a certain degree, the more unsafe code a language allows yuo to write, the more powerful the language is. there is always opportunity for mistakes and scurity breeches, but sometimes that has to sacrificed for features. not bugs, features...
all you people keep saying that it NEEDS to be 95% or in your case 100% like windows for people to use it. however, that is obviously ONLY true for people coming from windows and don't want to change. if you do NOT want to change at all, then you can stay in windows, and have loads of fun doing it. the transition is NOT what should be smooth: its the ease of use, etc. WHY, for god sakes, do you want linux apps to install EXACTLY the same way as windows apps. i am one of those people who used sunos then linux THEN windows...believe it or not...so for me WINDOWS is foreign, so i could go around the same way you are saying that "until windows apps install the EXACT same way l00nix apps do, etc. BS, BLAH, BS, BLAH..." i wont use it.
but i am not like that. i do not _not_ use windows because the apps and drivers etc dont install the exact same way, but more because of functionality. l00nix apps are FAR more functional. if windows was as configurable and stable is l00nix, believe me, i WOULD use it. but it isnt, so i don't use it.
in the place i work, the accountant was given a computer. she hadn't really used anything before. we put debain with mozilla for browsing and soffice for office junk, and she loves it. it DOESNT crash, it DOESNT hang, tabbed browsing is great, and star office is very usable for all office apps. no problems, no questions asked. and if there IS a problem, dont need to physically go to the machine and fix the problem. just ssh and export display. so, if you are a stale old geezer who doesnt want to change b/c he doesnt want to learn anything, fine, _we_ dont care, we are not going to force you. BUT, in schools and any place computers are introduced to people, l00nix should be used.
"why use borland when there is gcc?" seems to be the resounding question going around right now. this is the same as saying: "why use l00nix instead of windows?" maybe this will start another flame war, but hopefully/. crowd is too smart for that.
either way, the reason it was released is to release their OWN product on l00nix, and maybe SOMEONE will use it. and even if EVERYone is still using gcc, its competition. there is nothing competing with gcc. IF borland makes a kick ass compiler (address this later) and adds stuff that say, gcc, doesnt have, be it good ide (not for me, but w/e), or features, or good checking stuff like lint, etc....you get the point: its competition.
i dont think you are going to convince the profs to teach the class in l00nix and borland. and btw, how does the release of borland make l00nix a better platform for the profs to teach and develop on.
instead, write good code, and only reboot to compile, not to write and test.
ok, so maybe kde and gnome are windows knockoffs, and i must admit i hate that. BUT, at the same time, that is what a lot of ppl want. i have a friend who is a linux newbie. i helped him setup everything veru gui, just like he wanted it. however, even though he seemed to be amazed by e, he wanted icons on his "desktop" (just like windows). now...for those of us who prefer just a terminal for all our needs, we use fvwm2 or the like or e for complete fancy gui control. but for those coming from windows, they WANT to have icons, and a "start" type m$ button.
although i personally hate it, a LOT of the people using gnome and kde are pleased to see a "familiar" environment. hehe, remember when/. posted that linux was hard to learn for kids because of a difficult to learn and unfamiliar environment? (and this is for people who had NEVER used windows) well, those ppl, although obvious linvocates, were biased towards a windows look and feel.
so, instead of dissing gnome and kde for their "knockoff" qualities, go diss microsoft for ripping off lots of good gtk+ and e themes.
there is one thing i don't quite get in the article. according to quantum theory a vacuum has energy, due to heisenberg's uncertainty principle and minimum energy constraints. check. that is supposed to account for the cosmological that is apparently needed for the universe to be accelerating. however, the figures we get with TRADITIONAL quantum physics is about 120 orders of magnitude greater. adding in string theory, we get 60 orders of magnitude greater (the correction due to the pairing of bosons and fermions). check....
but they are saying that the vacuum energy of the inside of the gravistar would match that of the meaasured universe (for a large universe sized gravistar) THAT MAKES NO SINCE! WHAT then is inside the gravistar. something that has much lower energy (60 magnitudes worth) than even vacuum. they can't even figure out how much vacuum energy the universe has, let alone a gravistar in some odd BEC quantum state.
it seems that by the time they get to that point in the article, they are on the edge of fantasy.
indeed...like many ppl who like tech: computers + vehicles, stripping a bus was fun. network all around, etc. gutted and fitted with lots of good stuff, pretty much like the this beast. the only thing that was different was the diversity *cough* of operating systems. nothing extremely new tho. how much does it go for?;-)
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either way, its not a mile away from itself...
hehe...i wonder how you would have felt with an 18" CRT. LCD is very crisp and doesnt ur eyes as much, but for things like photos and games, u want smooth more than u want crisp (hence antialiasing)
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true, but what you are saying that nothing that can POSSIBLY come to any harm should be allowed. by that rule, just about EVERY modern programming language, operating system and useful piece of software should be thrown out and bashed, because it can be used for harm.
yes, you should watch these people so they dont DO anything bad, and try to make sure nothing happens, but there are also plenty of legitimate uses.
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it really seems to me the ONLY point of all your discussion on this subject is that you will be pissed if u CANNOT break an established copyright...
it is exactly THAT: a right to copy or NOT copy...u might not like it, but it is defined by the ppl who make the software/format. all the other LAWS are indeed stupid, but all a watermark can do is help them track down illegal use: im not particularly a corporate fan, but they are strengthening their defense in an intelligent way: WITHOUT THE USE OF POINTLESS LAWS!!!
if you are doing something illegal, either be discrete about it, or stop doing it, but most definitely (not to sound like a troll...) stop whining. sure, ogg will remain oss, and so will all the oss video codecs, but if NO stupid laws are being passed, u are setting a bad example for potential users, making ppl think they SHOULD make laws...
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unix errors are terse but not cryptic.
would you rather have a warning that suggests 18 things for you to do that *might* fix your problem? i'm sure the error exactly what was going wrong, and most importantly, nothing more and nothing less....
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namely, that microsoft actually considers unix a viable opponent worth spending dozens of millions of dollars on to advertise against it. i wonder how this anti-ad campaign will compare to that of all their other successfull ones (at least in their opinion) ala lotus et al.
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annie hall (woody allen) was a great comedy. the problem lies in the fact that comedies these days are mostly slapstick and rather cheap humor; when a good comedy comes out such as annie hall the acedemy considers plenty...
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personally, you can appeal to wide variety of audience (expanding it) without removing all the good gags. however, this seems to be a trend in the media;
executive: we need to broaden our audience
advisor: good idea, chief, but lets keep all the old intelligent humor so we don'y lose our old fans.
executive (feeling stupid): there was intelligent humor???
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but in this case, it doesnt seem that the robot can do anything particularly useful. when they say, carry on a conversation, what do they mean? repeat the phrases its been told. or what?
:-)
it would be great to a cognitive robot going, something that can actually logically deduce and make conclusions as well as make associations within its environment. now THAT would be useful. sure, at first it wont sing songs or be of any entertainment value or anything of THAT sort, but it could eventually become the mechanical servant we all wish for
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oh, i took it as a joke, just the joke seems to also sum up what EVERYONE thinks...that's all!
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that is the biggest illusion people have themselves running under. everyone seems to think the only problem with as you call it "truly AI computer", which doesnt even make much sense in itself, but ill give u the benefit of the doubt...
is computing power and parallel processing vs the inherently serial nature of todays conventional computing solutions. the benchmark idea is nice, but the BIGGEST problem with AI is trying to create a model that can handle every kind of input (and even one to start with would be nice) and be able to generalize concepts as well as learn independantly (without predefined associations between internal structure and external input).
computing power is nice, but we can't even create the correct models yet. even if its slow, at least it'll work. sure, DNA sounds nice...cause its biological ala humans, but beyond that, its just another computing method.
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sounds like a prelude to asimov's robot fantasies. these things dont walk and talk yet, but he had the right idea with the three laws--otherwise, these things can be used for quite some nasty personal abuse, to say the least.
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i figured that's what this story needed
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technically, there should be a formally defined system of punishment and reward, and survival quite clearly fits into the category of reward. however, in the case of robots, it is very difficult to define the punishment and reward except by self preservation. also, no one REALLY knows (including nietzsche) what we strive for, and the best thing we have thought of (as good as any) is self preservation. yuo say power is the goal? what is power. that seems quite a bit more vague than survival. how do u define power in humans, even, for example...and more importantly in this case, robots?
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well, for one because it gets great press. software doesnt get much press. second of all, im sure they already TRIED using software and couldnt make enough hype about it. third, this is a ROBOT WARS judge! ofcourse he is going to use hardware. the article seems rather vague on what exact structure the neural nets have, and the info they DO give is kinda useless for experts and such since it is pretty much obvious how it is being done. hardware is more snazzy and makes more money, and looks cooler too. i mean c'mon, if yuo were doing this kind of experimint, wouldnt YUO want to do it w/ hardware too?
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playbot magazine?
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to a certain degree, the more unsafe code a language allows yuo to write, the more powerful the language is. there is always opportunity for mistakes and scurity breeches, but sometimes that has to sacrificed for features. not bugs, features...
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all you people keep saying that it NEEDS to be 95% or in your case 100% like windows for people to use it. however, that is obviously ONLY true for people coming from windows and don't want to change. if you do NOT want to change at all, then you can stay in windows, and have loads of fun doing it. the transition is NOT what should be smooth: its the ease of use, etc. WHY, for god sakes, do you want linux apps to install EXACTLY the same way as windows apps. i am one of those people who used sunos then linux THEN windows...believe it or not...so for me WINDOWS is foreign, so i could go around the same way you are saying that "until windows apps install the EXACT same way l00nix apps do, etc. BS, BLAH, BS, BLAH..." i wont use it.
but i am not like that. i do not _not_ use windows because the apps and drivers etc dont install the exact same way, but more because of functionality. l00nix apps are FAR more functional. if windows was as configurable and stable is l00nix, believe me, i WOULD use it. but it isnt, so i don't use it.
in the place i work, the accountant was given a computer. she hadn't really used anything before. we put debain with mozilla for browsing and soffice for office junk, and she loves it. it DOESNT crash, it DOESNT hang, tabbed browsing is great, and star office is very usable for all office apps. no problems, no questions asked. and if there IS a problem, dont need to physically go to the machine and fix the problem. just ssh and export display. so, if you are a stale old geezer who doesnt want to change b/c he doesnt want to learn anything, fine, _we_ dont care, we are not going to force you. BUT, in schools and any place computers are introduced to people, l00nix should be used.
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"why use borland when there is gcc?" seems to be the resounding question going around right now. this is the same as saying: "why use l00nix instead of windows?" maybe this will start another flame war, but hopefully /. crowd is too smart for that.
either way, the reason it was released is to release their OWN product on l00nix, and maybe SOMEONE will use it. and even if EVERYone is still using gcc, its competition. there is nothing competing with gcc. IF borland makes a kick ass compiler (address this later) and adds stuff that say, gcc, doesnt have, be it good ide (not for me, but w/e), or features, or good checking stuff like lint, etc....you get the point: its competition.
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i dont think you are going to convince the profs to teach the class in l00nix and borland. and btw, how does the release of borland make l00nix a better platform for the profs to teach and develop on.
instead, write good code, and only reboot to compile, not to write and test.
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ok, so maybe kde and gnome are windows knockoffs, and i must admit i hate that. BUT, at the same time, that is what a lot of ppl want. i have a friend who is a linux newbie. i helped him setup everything veru gui, just like he wanted it. however, even though he seemed to be amazed by e, he wanted icons on his "desktop" (just like windows). now...for those of us who prefer just a terminal for all our needs, we use fvwm2 or the like or e for complete fancy gui control. but for those coming from windows, they WANT to have icons, and a "start" type m$ button.
/. posted that linux was hard to learn for kids because of a difficult to learn and unfamiliar environment? (and this is for people who had NEVER used windows) well, those ppl, although obvious linvocates, were biased towards a windows look and feel.
although i personally hate it, a LOT of the people using gnome and kde are pleased to see a "familiar" environment. hehe, remember when
so, instead of dissing gnome and kde for their "knockoff" qualities, go diss microsoft for ripping off lots of good gtk+ and e themes.
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there is one thing i don't quite get in the article. according to quantum theory a vacuum has energy, due to heisenberg's uncertainty principle and minimum energy constraints. check. that is supposed to account for the cosmological that is apparently needed for the universe to be accelerating. however, the figures we get with TRADITIONAL quantum physics is about 120 orders of magnitude greater. adding in string theory, we get 60 orders of magnitude greater (the correction due to the pairing of bosons and fermions). check....
but they are saying that the vacuum energy of the inside of the gravistar would match that of the meaasured universe (for a large universe sized gravistar) THAT MAKES NO SINCE! WHAT then is inside the gravistar. something that has much lower energy (60 magnitudes worth) than even vacuum. they can't even figure out how much vacuum energy the universe has, let alone a gravistar in some odd BEC quantum state.
it seems that by the time they get to that point in the article, they are on the edge of fantasy.
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apt-get dist-upgrade
i guess this IS just another distibution based off another one, named SORCEROR, and released under its own name..
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...technobus!
;-)
indeed...like many ppl who like tech: computers + vehicles, stripping a bus was fun. network all around, etc. gutted and fitted with lots of good stuff, pretty much like the this beast. the only thing that was different was the diversity *cough* of operating systems. nothing extremely new tho. how much does it go for?
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plus, yuo CAN use it on random data...the bigger the data size, the more yuo can compress, because there would vectors closer to others.
so, all yuor assertions about NOT being able to compress ALL data is not true.
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