I have to say this is indeed a crafty plan by the *AA, get the govt. to do your dirty work for you so you dont have to deal with the negative press of suing an 80 yr old grandma when you screw up.
Not to mention you dont have to pay your lawyers, ot go to court to get ISp records.. the govt can just seize them under some pretentious warrant.
Its just a different kind of corporate welfare. Isnt this why copyright violations are supposed to be handled in civil court anyway?
Well Apple officially goes by 'apple computer', "Apple" alone is what people call it generally when its known whats is being spoken about.
-- C'mon... *please* don't post when less than 30 seconds of surfing can show that you're wrong. Apple Computer, Inc. lists both the word "Apple" and their Apple Logo as trademarks in their list of trademarks [apple.com]. They even tell you that it's trademarked in the field of "computers, computer software, computer peripherals, etc.".
-- "Apple" is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc.. That does not mean they have to go by "Apple".
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Umm it kinda sounds like you just agreed with my initial statement. Which was i wrong about again?
Apple does indeed have 'Apple' listed as a trademark. However i cannot recall anything of recent vintage in which they use 'Apple' alone as their identifier. As I look at my system 7.5 CD it does in fact state "copyright 1994 apple computer, Inc. All rights reserved. Apple, the Apple logo, and Macintosh are trademarks of Apple Computer.
So, Apple official goes under the name Apple computer Inc.
Hosting a server would be getting inbound port 25, sending out to a server you have access to is outbound 25. If im reading correctly comcast is gonna block outbound 25 on some cable modem customers.
Comcast should also probably take the next logical step to alert those customers by phone (not email), I know lots of people that never use the ISP email. However, knowing the lack of follow-thru of corporate america that will probably not take place.
Well Apple officially goes by 'apple computer', "Apple" alone is what people call it generally when its known whats is being spoken about.
Its also clear that "microsoft windows" is a trademark. "Windows" which is a plain word with no specific identifier isnt. "Chair' is not, "Aeron Chair' is. This should be obvious to anyone not a MS lawyer.
oh man i hate dell. i have had nothing but rampant stupidity from them (with one exception).
I think my favorite is when i had clicking HD, and the clown had me try to boot a dead HD formatted with NTFS with a win98 boot disk to see if i could read it. I left the phone down on the clicking drive while i was forced to make the boot floppy.
"Its about a buncha teens who have resorted to extreme measures to get access to the internet."
Does not this statement alone seem to indicate a clear problem?
"For children, its almost like an addictive drug, compelling them to lie, cheat, and perform other dishonest activities just so they could get more computer usage time."
Well when you artificially limit the public these are the kind of emergent behaviors you end up with.
Assuming the environment is in fact bad, why not actually regulate the environment. Also you should probably avoid stereotypes like the one that bars are 'seedy'. Only seedy bars are seedy.
You address that fact that censorship does in fact exist, and there is seems to be more then censorship of content but access. if there was unfettered access why would you need a gang to get it?
You also changed the topic from teens wanting internet access to 'small children' playing video games. As this is about teens, we need to stay on topic on that. If parents are not parenting their adolescents then that is really a parenting issue.
I really have to wonder to myself if the chinese govt has yet come to the realization that their constant drive to block/censor anti-govt internet content only leads to more anti-govt feelings of the people.
I really have to agree. Comcast seem to be positioning themselves in the market as the company you dont want to do business with unless you have to.
There are allegations of them actively snooping on customers, the bandwidth overage disconnection issue where they allegedly wont tell you what the usage barrier is.. and now this actively trying to control consumer consumption.
I dont know if i have any non-inflammatory words to describe how i feel about this kind of behavior.
Well thank you for an actual thought out post. And I see your point. Its certainly a dancing game. Of course this is less 'hiding' and more 'managing' And as this whole thing started the lie was that apple was being unresponsive. This seems to be clearly untrue.
Also about when does a group decide to 'go public' with bug info? Well it seems to me that merely not getting a fix from the vendor is not a good enough criteria. I would think that there would have to be imminent risk of sever exploitation, or active exploitation that people would need to know about to take some kind of alternate action. As I said elsewhere magically calling 'critical' an unconfirmed 'moderate' issue because you want to write a story, make it look like you have some kinda axe to grind. Not to mention you look like a fool when someone decides to dig deeper.
BTW would care to actually address what would be a 'responsive' answer to the problems this guy was complaining about? or do you feel it necessary to attack me instead of addressing those things?
Shall we turn this around? it is fair play after all.
let us review "Apple sold a $300 super-walkman that needed a $100 exchange for a refurbished iPod & battery after a yea"
Well then since the implication that since an ipod was reveled that it needed a battery (and the reasons of the battery failure were not detailed by the owner), your hyperbole implies that all ipods need a battery in a year.
So turn about, since some firestone tires exploded, therefore your sister already had hers explode.
You can replace apple with Microsoft all you want. It donest make the references or the information any less accurate.
I suppose if you wish to consider unexploited and in some cases unconfirmed problems that have been fixed worthy of ridicule, well then i only hope that all problems that get fixed are also so ridiculous.
Lets u begin what 2 of those 5 'highly critical' advisories, according to that linked page haven't been confirmed yet. One does indeed wonder that if Apple is allegedly not taking them seriously, and this reporting place is, why are they not in fact confirmed. Perhaps we can argue just as well that Secunia is doing a 'half-hearted' job at testing.
Ok now see how one can go off half cocked? this is the statement from McCarthy " Apple explained that it was "aware" of a Trojan horse that could be used to compromise its systems and was investigating it, but refused to say any more"
Im not really sure what more one would want them to say? Perhaps "OH MY GOD THIS IS A DISASTER!" Well clearly its not. But if you want to hype it for an article sure whatever. Perhaps you want want to know exactly when it'll be fixed. Good let them give you some fictional date that they makeup before they have actually investigated it. But hey sure you can hype in your article.
To be annoyingly pedantic, apache isnt part of the OS. Additionally most people dont use the (Apache) built in web server. I should also mention that none of the 3 articles linked about the Apache problem are listed as 'highly critical' anyway. (2 moderate and one 'less')
IPsec ones.. both moderate. So this leaves us with 2 unconfirmed, 2 moderates, and 1 left of privilege escalation. I cant say much about it as I dont know anymore than the rather curt descriptions.
The really best part is is what is claimed to be "Apple's half-hearted effort to these holes" Links to a page on a security update for them. But hey if you need to hyper that a fix means nothing is being done because you have an article deadline.. then sounds like you are doing a "half hearted" job.
" $100 exchange for a refurbished iPod & battery after a year, the Appleheads insisted that it was perfectly ok"
Its really strange i haven't seen anything all those ipods the *need* a battery replacement after a year.
"Would would your reaction be if Steve Ballmer got up and said "patches do not matter, we are withholding them for your protection"? It would be a vertitable orgy of Microsoft denunciations."
Actually when MS said that their security holes are only exploited after they release the patches they were in fact denounced.
It sounds like you are asking people to drink duffbeer brand kool aid yourself. Which only leads me to ask. who are you apologizing for.
See i dont buy into this weakening of the immune system thing.
I made my decision on this one day when i was visiting a friend with there toddler. He was blithely eating cheerios off the floor. As long as kids keep putting things in there mouth from places they arent supposed to be from, i expect humans will continue to consume more bacteria then necessary.
Im sorry, but you didn't actually refute anything other than state your apparent disbelief. can you actually show something to the contrary. Or more of why you dont believe the claim, other then some vague suspicion of the claimants?
I sorry i miss the old EA. one of my first game purchases was starflight, and i waited eagerly for starflight 2. Racing destruction set on the c64, Theme Hospital by bullfrog published by EA (that i just played again last week)
and no post is complete without the 7 cities of gold and marble madness:)
If we assume for the moment a literal biblical flood, its highly likely that any real ark would have been dismantled for shelter and fuel.
Now lets be realistic for a minute, if we assume an existence of an ark, and a 'widely' held regional flood (mebbe a glacial lake broke, or something) it certainly dates back to prehistory. A wooden structure surviving in what would become a glacial environment is clearly fantasy.
In any case, if they do manage to find anything up there, we have carbon dating to find out whats going on.
I ope soon we will see a breakthru on media that will require no moving parts in the media, but still give the same I/O speed as current mechanical devices. I know from experience that at least half the time of a drive failure is due to mechanics. But much of the other half is still due to mechanics but appears to be a platter problem?
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I have to say this is indeed a crafty plan by the *AA, get the govt. to do your dirty work for you so you dont have to deal with the negative press of suing an 80 yr old grandma when you screw up.
Not to mention you dont have to pay your lawyers, ot go to court to get ISp records.. the govt can just seize them under some pretentious warrant.
Its just a different kind of corporate welfare. Isnt this why copyright violations are supposed to be handled in civil court anyway?
But Im sure the japanese media conglomerates made sue everyone knew that the broadcast flag was *GOOD* for you!
Perhaps they need to personify the broadcast flag into a cutesy anime character, to allow them to sell it better:P
Well Apple officially goes by 'apple computer', "Apple" alone is what people call it generally when its known whats is being spoken about.
--
C'mon... *please* don't post when less than 30 seconds of surfing can show that you're wrong. Apple Computer, Inc. lists both the word "Apple" and their Apple Logo as trademarks in their list of trademarks [apple.com]. They even tell you that it's trademarked in the field of "computers, computer software, computer peripherals, etc.".
--
"Apple" is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc.. That does not mean they have to go by "Apple".
--
Umm it kinda sounds like you just agreed with my initial statement. Which was i wrong about again?
Apple does indeed have 'Apple' listed as a trademark. However i cannot recall anything of recent vintage in which they use 'Apple' alone as their identifier. As I look at my system 7.5 CD it does in fact state "copyright 1994 apple computer, Inc. All rights reserved. Apple, the Apple logo, and Macintosh are trademarks of Apple Computer.
So, Apple official goes under the name Apple computer Inc.
Hosting a server would be getting inbound port 25, sending out to a server you have access to is outbound 25. If im reading correctly comcast is gonna block outbound 25 on some cable modem customers.
Comcast should also probably take the next logical step to alert those customers by phone (not email), I know lots of people that never use the ISP email. However, knowing the lack of follow-thru of corporate america that will probably not take place.
Well Apple officially goes by 'apple computer', "Apple" alone is what people call it generally when its known whats is being spoken about.
Its also clear that "microsoft windows" is a trademark. "Windows" which is a plain word with no specific identifier isnt. "Chair' is not, "Aeron Chair' is. This should be obvious to anyone not a MS lawyer.
oh man i hate dell. i have had nothing but rampant stupidity from them (with one exception).
I think my favorite is when i had clicking HD, and the clown had me try to boot a dead HD formatted with NTFS with a win98 boot disk to see if i could read it. I left the phone down on the clicking drive while i was forced to make the boot floppy.
In order to enchance continutity with future star trek series, producer Rick Berman will fall victim to a horribly debilitating transporter accident.
"Its about a buncha teens who have resorted to extreme measures to get access to the internet."
Does not this statement alone seem to indicate a clear problem?
"For children, its almost like an addictive drug, compelling them to lie, cheat, and perform other dishonest activities just so they could get more computer usage time."
Well when you artificially limit the public these are the kind of emergent behaviors you end up with.
Assuming the environment is in fact bad, why not actually regulate the environment. Also you should probably avoid stereotypes like the one that bars are 'seedy'. Only seedy bars are seedy.
You address that fact that censorship does in fact exist, and there is seems to be more then censorship of content but access. if there was unfettered access why would you need a gang to get it?
You also changed the topic from teens wanting internet access to 'small children' playing video games. As this is about teens, we need to stay on topic on that. If parents are not parenting their adolescents then that is really a parenting issue.
I really have to wonder to myself if the chinese govt has yet come to the realization that their constant drive to block/censor anti-govt internet content only leads to more anti-govt feelings of the people.
ON the heels of some wacky law threats this week i think this is a setup for a perfect trifecta:
Rambus : We didnt make enough money because you didnt license enough from us. We will sue you.
Fox News : You wont sell your billboard to us. We will sue you.
MS : You arent buying from us because we are hyping our new stuff years before its ready, we will sue you!. (?)
(this post is for humor purposes i am not serious, such a lawsuit would be silly.)
I really have to agree. Comcast seem to be positioning themselves in the market as the company you dont want to do business with unless you have to.
There are allegations of them actively snooping on customers, the bandwidth overage disconnection issue where they allegedly wont tell you what the usage barrier is.. and now this actively trying to control consumer consumption.
I dont know if i have any non-inflammatory words to describe how i feel about this kind of behavior.
Well thank you for an actual thought out post. And I see your point. Its certainly a dancing game. Of course this is less 'hiding' and more 'managing' And as this whole thing started the lie was that apple was being unresponsive. This seems to be clearly untrue.
Also about when does a group decide to 'go public' with bug info? Well it seems to me that merely not getting a fix from the vendor is not a good enough criteria. I would think that there would have to be imminent risk of sever exploitation, or active exploitation that people would need to know about to take some kind of alternate action. As I said elsewhere magically calling 'critical' an unconfirmed 'moderate' issue because you want to write a story, make it look like you have some kinda axe to grind. Not to mention you look like a fool when someone decides to dig deeper.
Im not exactly sure how one hides published problems on public sites.
Can you clarify?
BTW would care to actually address what would be a 'responsive' answer to the problems this guy was complaining about? or do you feel it necessary to attack me instead of addressing those things?
Shall we turn this around? it is fair play after all.
let us review "Apple sold a $300 super-walkman that needed a $100 exchange for a refurbished iPod & battery after a yea"
Well then since the implication that since an ipod was reveled that it needed a battery (and the reasons of the battery failure were not detailed by the owner), your hyperbole implies that all ipods need a battery in a year.
So turn about, since some firestone tires exploded, therefore your sister already had hers explode.
You can replace apple with Microsoft all you want. It donest make the references or the information any less accurate.
I suppose if you wish to consider unexploited and in some cases unconfirmed problems that have been fixed worthy of ridicule, well then i only hope that all problems that get fixed are also so ridiculous.
Lets u begin what 2 of those 5 'highly critical' advisories, according to that linked page haven't been confirmed yet. One does indeed wonder that if Apple is allegedly not taking them seriously, and this reporting place is, why are they not in fact confirmed. Perhaps we can argue just as well that Secunia is doing a 'half-hearted' job at testing.
Ok now see how one can go off half cocked? this is the statement from McCarthy " Apple explained that it was "aware" of a Trojan horse that could be used to compromise its systems and was investigating it, but refused to say any more"
Im not really sure what more one would want them to say? Perhaps "OH MY GOD THIS IS A DISASTER!" Well clearly its not. But if you want to hype it for an article sure whatever. Perhaps you want want to know exactly when it'll be fixed. Good let them give you some fictional date that they makeup before they have actually investigated it. But hey sure you can hype in your article.
To be annoyingly pedantic, apache isnt part of the OS. Additionally most people dont use the (Apache) built in web server. I should also mention that none of the 3 articles linked about the Apache problem are listed as 'highly critical' anyway. (2 moderate and one 'less')
IPsec ones.. both moderate. So this leaves us with 2 unconfirmed, 2 moderates, and 1 left of privilege escalation. I cant say much about it as I dont know anymore than the rather curt descriptions.
The really best part is is what is claimed to be "Apple's half-hearted effort to these holes" Links to a page on a security update for them. But hey if you need to hyper that a fix means nothing is being done because you have an article deadline.. then sounds like you are doing a "half hearted" job.
" $100 exchange for a refurbished iPod & battery after a year, the Appleheads insisted that it was perfectly ok"
Its really strange i haven't seen anything all those ipods the *need* a battery replacement after a year.
"Would would your reaction be if Steve Ballmer got up and said "patches do not matter, we are withholding them for your protection"? It would be a vertitable orgy of Microsoft denunciations."
Actually when MS said that their security holes are only exploited after they release the patches they were in fact denounced.
It sounds like you are asking people to drink duffbeer brand kool aid yourself. Which only leads me to ask. who are you apologizing for.
Oh whenever i read another story about the libery crushing plans of DRM i recall the humorous humorous 'slashdot DRM Helmet'
/. will be used as a prior art reference:)
It plugs that 'analog hole' by analyzing everything you hear and blocking it out if you dont have a license.
I wonder if some day in the future
See i dont buy into this weakening of the immune system thing.
I made my decision on this one day when i was visiting a friend with there toddler. He was blithely eating cheerios off the floor. As long as kids keep putting things in there mouth from places they arent supposed to be from, i expect humans will continue to consume more bacteria then necessary.
Im sorry, but you didn't actually refute anything other than state your apparent disbelief. can you actually show something to the contrary. Or more of why you dont believe the claim, other then some vague suspicion of the claimants?
I sorry i miss the old EA. one of my first game purchases was starflight, and i waited eagerly for starflight 2. Racing destruction set on the c64, Theme Hospital by bullfrog published by EA (that i just played again last week)
and no post is complete without the 7 cities of gold and marble madness:)
*sigh*
If we assume for the moment a literal biblical flood, its highly likely that any real ark would have been dismantled for shelter and fuel.
Now lets be realistic for a minute, if we assume an existence of an ark, and a 'widely' held regional flood (mebbe a glacial lake broke, or something) it certainly dates back to prehistory. A wooden structure surviving in what would become a glacial environment is clearly fantasy.
In any case, if they do manage to find anything up there, we have carbon dating to find out whats going on.
I ope soon we will see a breakthru on media that will require no moving parts in the media, but still give the same I/O speed as current mechanical devices. I know from experience that at least half the time of a drive failure is due to mechanics. But much of the other half is still due to mechanics but appears to be a platter problem?