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I got one that's better than that.
When I was a kid, my mom knew how to find out if any of us kids were lying. She would tell us, "Say 'Pork and Beans' without laughing." If we were telling the truth, we could do it. But if we were lying, we couldn't say it with a straight face. Worked every time.
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And after all that new hardware, personnel, dogs, training, testing, etc., it will be very difficult to get a bomb aboard an aircraft. But remember, the guys in September didn't have bombs or guns, just knives. Plus it will soon come to pass that they will get some surface to air missles, and shoot down a few planes from near the airport perimeter. No way to stop that since many airports are right next to residential areas, or open water. Rent a house for a month, or a boat for a day, and cause more death and fear.
And for those who think the terrorists couldn't get missles, why wouldn't they be able to? With enough money, they can buy anything. Maybe they can get them in the US, or they might have to get them from Central or South America. But if thousands of tons of drugs can be smuggled into the US, why couldn't missles? Just pack 500 bags of marijuana around them so it gets thru customs.;^) And for our European readers, the same holds true. Would it really be difficult to smuggle missles into England, France, or Germany?
Sure call be paranoid, but it is a very possible future. After the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, they restricted large trucks from the building, and from many government buildings too. At the time, I told people that the easiest way to get past the roadblocks would be to fly over them. I never imagined it would come true. And all this new measures still won't stop them from chartering a cargo plane, and using it in an attack. The terrorists might even be the official pilot and copilot; they wouldn't even have to overpower anyone.
What part of "not always the 'champion' of freedom of speech" is over your head? Notice the word "ALWAYS". This means that at times it is, and at times it isn't. Cancelling a lecture because you disagree with the speaker's viewpoints is not championing free speech. The fact that the national organization got the lecture reinstated doesn't cancel that out. Actually, it highlights it.
And as I said originally, the lecture was reinstated only after a lot of local liberal lawyers, including some in the state ACLU, voiced their objections to it being cancelled. Since they are what the ACLU is based on, it got the attention of the national leadership. And it's only my speculation, but I am certain many of them called their associates in the national headquarters and let them know personally about it.
Personally I think the ACLU has done many good things, which is why I phrased my response the way I did. I'm not attacking their decisions to support various groups, whether I agree with the group's views or not. I specifically stated they are "shooting themselves in the foot." This lecture fiasco is just one example that probably did not get nationwide coverage. So I thought I would use it to highlight my point. But you have to go and act like I'm trying to bring down the whole group. Time for a reality check.
They are being detained to determine if they are foriegn national infiltrators sent to kill people in the US. Of course they are Arab, the planes weren't hijacked by the Japanese terrorist groups. The attacks weren't planned by the Russian mafia. It was the work of Arabs.
And I have said it before. There are probably some of the Arab foreigners who simply disappeared. Not that they escaped and are in hiding. The FBI was tracking many of the hijackers beforehand. I'm sure others were picked up immediately after the attacks, and were questioned intensely. And I mean tortured, not just slapped around. When they finally spilled everything they knew, they were killed and disposed of. The phrases *without counsel* and *in secret* have no meaning in this case. Not that I am a conspiracy theory buff, but who would believe otherwise.
You quote a statement, then completely disregard it. How intelligent.
His point was that people give money to the Boy Scouts. Those people know the Boy Scouts don't accept gay scoutmasters. I imagine they don't accept gay scouts either. They also don't accept atheist scouts or scoutmasters. The people who give them money know that. You know it too, so you don't give them money. You have no say in the membership criteria of a private organization that you don't support. That's because it is not your money, you idiotic boob.
"People are born sexually attracted to either men and/or women, and environment has absolutely no effect on this. "
Better watch out, you might be attacked by a million gay men and lesbians for espousing the patronizing stereotype that there is a 'gay gene' and that homosexuality is therefore is a birth defect. And yes, this is a serious area of argument in the study of homosexuality.
I'm glad to hear yo agree that private organizations should be able to choose their membership criteria. But lately the ACLU is really shooting itself in the foot.
The state chapter here canceled a lecture over the summer which was to feature Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. The national ACLU had to step in and force the local group to re-instate the lecture. As it turns out, the local chapter is headed by a very leftist woman, and she hated the fact that they were going to give a conservative the chance to speak his mind. So the ACLU is not always the 'champion' of freedom of speech, which was one of its cornerstones.
And coincidentaly, the local liberal protested the cancellation as much as the local conservatives. They wanted to hear his viewpiont. Especially the liberal lawyers, since they may bring a case before him in the future. Much better to know his views, so you can get around them easier.
"the student gets an oppertunity to hear a wide variety of different viewpoints, honestly spoken."
When was the last time you heard an honestly spoken conservative viewpoint on the majority of those liberal college campuses? Just in the past year, several guest speakers were forced to cancel their lectures because of the violent protests of the liberal left who shout about intolerance, and will attack anyone who's views are opposite of theirs. Those people should look into a mirror next time. Intolerance is written in large letters across their foreheads.
And Hitler was a member of a racist group. I am not. I'm not Catholic either, but I wouldn't protest a public Catholic Mass being held in Central Park. And since my family includes people of the Catholic faith, let me ask, was Hitler's other grandfather Catholic?
You simply don't understand that your response is the exact intolerance I was pointing out, and the post I was responding to mentioned. You are trying to paint me as an evil racist, so that my opinion is rendered moot. You don't want to debate me, you only want to shut me up. You are the ignorant one in this example.
I wish I could mod this up to 10, to make sure everyone would see it. It's not too often this viewpoint gets heard in reallife, much less here on/. . But it is the best way to look at the various situations. And you are right on every point you present. Most people are moderates, not a big surprise. The tribunals are not going to affect my liberties, since I am not a terrorist infiltrator trying to knock down buildings. And you didn't mention the national ID card idea, but i'm sure you don't like that plan (since you are left-of-center) any more than I do. By the way, I am right-of-center, but also classically liberal.
But what really got my attention was this line:
...incredible intolerance and divisiveness both from the right and the left....
I recently stopped listening to the 'talk radio' shows because I couldn't stand the ridiculousness of it. If Rush Limbaugh were to ask me about homosexuals, he would be upset that I think they should have all the same rights as anyone else, including gay marriages. But if the 'gay groups' were to ask me about discrimination, they would be upset that I don't support legislation or public school policiy targeted at sexual orientation harassment or discrimination. My point being that I think the "conservative right" and the "liberal left" are both pushing their agendas down our throats, and painting us evil if we disagree with any of their viewpoints.
There is one other topic that highlights this: racism. The Constitution of the US says that I have the right to my beliefs. That's the way I read the First Amendment and its "establishment of religion" prohibition. If I want to be Jewish, I can be and the government can't stop me. But it means more than that too. If I want to hate Asians, the government can't stop that either. I don't have the right to attack them, but I have the right to hold a sign that says I don't like them. Basically, in today's culture, it would just show how ingnorant a person can be. If the city council passed a resolution not allowing signs with racist messages, I would sue them and win. And the ACLU would count it as a victory for the freedom of expression, even though it would also further the goals of racism.
But many groups lately are forcing towns to not allow the Ku Klux Klan to hold parades. Or if the KKK does have a non-violent parade or rally, protestors show up to talk about the KKK's intolerance. It seems to start with a protest speech, then the crowd is led through anti-KKK chants, some insults are thrown around, and someone throws something at the KKK group. This of course sparks a fight, and the whole fiasco is played on the evening news.
The irony of the situation is that the anti-KKK protestors claim to hate intolerance, in all of its forms. But they can't see that their position is the epitome of intolerance. They don't want a group to express its beliefs because they disagree with those beliefs. They aren't there to have a debate with the KKK, they are there to shut them up, even if it means causing a riot to do so. And for the record, I am not a member of the KKK or any racist group, nor do I know anyone who is, and my family includes people of European, African, and Asian blood.
Yeah, but the DMCA will prevent us from learning how to bypass it from the aliens.
The ending of the series was cool. Say BYE-BYE to the later-day Bill Gates. (Hmmm, I wonder if Mr. Gates keeps _his_ mother's head alive in his basement.)
Hey, I may be stupid and ignorant, but...what was that third thing again?
Actually, you're right, we do have too much gratuitous smashing of MS on Slashdot. But basically that's the way it popped into my head.
Basically the line, "They're not bugs, they're features. Stupid Microsoft." But also with the "soft" in Microsoft, and in Watersoftener, there was a connection. Because I was originally thinking "Microsoft Water Filter", to tie it to the image of Internet filters such as NetNanny, as well as the Lameness filter here in Slashdot. But as I was typing it, it sounded better as "Microsoft Watersoftener and Filter", and of course the obligatory "version 1.0".
This computer has only five atoms. There are three atoms of the element holyshitbatmanium, with a nuclear number of 150, and atomic weight of 19803289048221043893710.83221943. And the other two are of the element startrek:wtfcjsmalobtium, which has the nuclear number 151, and atomic weight of 351789544628017086650.3015785.
"(As an aside, how they get the mice to have sex in zero g, I'll never figure out.;) )"
There was a female comedian in the 60's named Rusty Warren (baudy, burlesque style humor). One of her albums has "Rusty Warren in Orbit" and it covered a few of those areas. Unscientifically, unfortunately. She said she would "have to tie a brick to his fanny to keep him from falling off" if I remember correctly. Of course, we know the brick would be in free fall too, so it wouldn't help. But she had great delivery, so we could overlook those things.
Too bad this couldn't have been two separate questions, one for small businesses, one for medium sized ones. So many of the very negative answers are based on someone's 'experience' in a mid to large sized business.
I have worked with many small offices that use from one to ten computers. I was doing on-site tech work, mainly fixing hardware and killing viruses. I learned how to use several accounting and inventory packages because the customer didn't know how to use it fully. From changing a template in Quickbooks for a one-man office, to specifying which LPT port to send various reports and billings to in Raintree, and then doing print capture to send LPT2, LPT3, and LPT4 to other stations for laserjet, color inkjet, or dotmatrix. I learned how to do this with each package in about 15 minutes.
This would be a good area to specialize in if you were going to start a business supporting it. Find a nice Linux accounting app, have basic hardware knowledge so you can replace hard drives, install a network if needed, and get a tape drive for daily backups. (No insult meant there, just some computer gurus only know the OS, not the hardware; you have to be able to troubleshoot and repair problems in both areas for this.) Install linux on each system, and show the customer how easy it is to use. Get a clientelle of about 50 small businesses, and you're set off to a good start.
Also, from what I have seen, I would rather have a DOS-style than a Windows-style accounting program. Less overhead on the computer and network, and more stable. And as another poster said, make sure it uses the ENTER key, not the stinking TAB to switch fields. Punching in numbers with one hand while turning pages with the other is much easier that way.
If I fuck the local Tower Records here can I still get a free record. I'm looking for a mint copy of Scorpions "Lovedrive". Mine has slight ring wear.;)
I think the jurors were brighter than you give them credit for. Look at some of the evidence:
1. Prosecution's star witness commits perjury by stating he had not used the word 'nigger' in the last decade. Tapes are discovered that have this witness repeatedly saying the word 'nigger'.
2. The witness is also recorded outlining how he wants to frame a famous black person for a crime, especially a crime against a white person. He's not specifically targeting any particular person, such as OJ, just anyone who fits the bill.
3. The chief forensic inspector commits perjury by stating he personally collected evidence such as blood samples for DNA testing. The official crime scene videotape shows an assistant collecting the samples. And it's possible that the assistant is doing it incorrectly.
For the record, I'm a white person. But with these three items alone, most of the prosecution's case is either invalidated or very suspect. I would not have been able to vote guilty in this case either. And I believe that either OJ did commit the crime, or he knows who did. (Some have speculated it was his son from a previous marriage, which would be very possible.) But the prosecution blew the case with little help from the defense. The defense simply pointed out the emporer had no clothes.
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I got one that's better than that.
When I was a kid, my mom knew how to find out if any of us kids were lying. She would tell us, "Say 'Pork and Beans' without laughing." If we were telling the truth, we could do it. But if we were lying, we couldn't say it with a straight face. Worked every time.
And after all that new hardware, personnel, dogs, training, testing, etc., it will be very difficult to get a bomb aboard an aircraft. But remember, the guys in September didn't have bombs or guns, just knives. Plus it will soon come to pass that they will get some surface to air missles, and shoot down a few planes from near the airport perimeter. No way to stop that since many airports are right next to residential areas, or open water. Rent a house for a month, or a boat for a day, and cause more death and fear.
;^) And for our European readers, the same holds true. Would it really be difficult to smuggle missles into England, France, or Germany?
And for those who think the terrorists couldn't get missles, why wouldn't they be able to? With enough money, they can buy anything. Maybe they can get them in the US, or they might have to get them from Central or South America. But if thousands of tons of drugs can be smuggled into the US, why couldn't missles? Just pack 500 bags of marijuana around them so it gets thru customs.
Sure call be paranoid, but it is a very possible future. After the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, they restricted large trucks from the building, and from many government buildings too. At the time, I told people that the easiest way to get past the roadblocks would be to fly over them. I never imagined it would come true. And all this new measures still won't stop them from chartering a cargo plane, and using it in an attack. The terrorists might even be the official pilot and copilot; they wouldn't even have to overpower anyone.
Happy New Year, eh.
What part of "not always the 'champion' of freedom of speech" is over your head? Notice the word "ALWAYS". This means that at times it is, and at times it isn't. Cancelling a lecture because you disagree with the speaker's viewpoints is not championing free speech. The fact that the national organization got the lecture reinstated doesn't cancel that out. Actually, it highlights it.
And as I said originally, the lecture was reinstated only after a lot of local liberal lawyers, including some in the state ACLU, voiced their objections to it being cancelled. Since they are what the ACLU is based on, it got the attention of the national leadership. And it's only my speculation, but I am certain many of them called their associates in the national headquarters and let them know personally about it.
Personally I think the ACLU has done many good things, which is why I phrased my response the way I did. I'm not attacking their decisions to support various groups, whether I agree with the group's views or not. I specifically stated they are "shooting themselves in the foot." This lecture fiasco is just one example that probably did not get nationwide coverage. So I thought I would use it to highlight my point. But you have to go and act like I'm trying to bring down the whole group. Time for a reality check.
They are being detained to determine if they are foriegn national infiltrators sent to kill people in the US. Of course they are Arab, the planes weren't hijacked by the Japanese terrorist groups. The attacks weren't planned by the Russian mafia. It was the work of Arabs.
And I have said it before. There are probably some of the Arab foreigners who simply disappeared. Not that they escaped and are in hiding. The FBI was tracking many of the hijackers beforehand. I'm sure others were picked up immediately after the attacks, and were questioned intensely. And I mean tortured, not just slapped around. When they finally spilled everything they knew, they were killed and disposed of. The phrases *without counsel* and *in secret* have no meaning in this case. Not that I am a conspiracy theory buff, but who would believe otherwise.
You quote a statement, then completely disregard it. How intelligent.
His point was that people give money to the Boy Scouts. Those people know the Boy Scouts don't accept gay scoutmasters. I imagine they don't accept gay scouts either. They also don't accept atheist scouts or scoutmasters. The people who give them money know that. You know it too, so you don't give them money. You have no say in the membership criteria of a private organization that you don't support. That's because it is not your money, you idiotic boob.
Insightful my left foot. How about -1:Ignorant.
"People are born sexually attracted to either men and/or women, and environment has absolutely no effect on this. "
Better watch out, you might be attacked by a million gay men and lesbians for espousing the patronizing stereotype that there is a 'gay gene' and that homosexuality is therefore is a birth defect. And yes, this is a serious area of argument in the study of homosexuality.
I'm glad to hear yo agree that private organizations should be able to choose their membership criteria. But lately the ACLU is really shooting itself in the foot.
The state chapter here canceled a lecture over the summer which was to feature Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. The national ACLU had to step in and force the local group to re-instate the lecture. As it turns out, the local chapter is headed by a very leftist woman, and she hated the fact that they were going to give a conservative the chance to speak his mind. So the ACLU is not always the 'champion' of freedom of speech, which was one of its cornerstones.
And coincidentaly, the local liberal protested the cancellation as much as the local conservatives. They wanted to hear his viewpiont. Especially the liberal lawyers, since they may bring a case before him in the future. Much better to know his views, so you can get around them easier.
"the student gets an oppertunity to hear a wide variety of different viewpoints, honestly spoken."
When was the last time you heard an honestly spoken conservative viewpoint on the majority of those liberal college campuses? Just in the past year, several guest speakers were forced to cancel their lectures because of the violent protests of the liberal left who shout about intolerance, and will attack anyone who's views are opposite of theirs. Those people should look into a mirror next time. Intolerance is written in large letters across their foreheads.
And Hitler was a member of a racist group. I am not. I'm not Catholic either, but I wouldn't protest a public Catholic Mass being held in Central Park. And since my family includes people of the Catholic faith, let me ask, was Hitler's other grandfather Catholic?
You simply don't understand that your response is the exact intolerance I was pointing out, and the post I was responding to mentioned. You are trying to paint me as an evil racist, so that my opinion is rendered moot. You don't want to debate me, you only want to shut me up. You are the ignorant one in this example.
I wish I could mod this up to 10, to make sure everyone would see it. It's not too often this viewpoint gets heard in reallife, much less here on /. . But it is the best way to look at the various situations. And you are right on every point you present. Most people are moderates, not a big surprise. The tribunals are not going to affect my liberties, since I am not a terrorist infiltrator trying to knock down buildings. And you didn't mention the national ID card idea, but i'm sure you don't like that plan (since you are left-of-center) any more than I do. By the way, I am right-of-center, but also classically liberal.
But what really got my attention was this line:
...incredible intolerance and divisiveness both from the right and the left....
I recently stopped listening to the 'talk radio' shows because I couldn't stand the ridiculousness of it. If Rush Limbaugh were to ask me about homosexuals, he would be upset that I think they should have all the same rights as anyone else, including gay marriages. But if the 'gay groups' were to ask me about discrimination, they would be upset that I don't support legislation or public school policiy targeted at sexual orientation harassment or discrimination. My point being that I think the "conservative right" and the "liberal left" are both pushing their agendas down our throats, and painting us evil if we disagree with any of their viewpoints.
There is one other topic that highlights this: racism. The Constitution of the US says that I have the right to my beliefs. That's the way I read the First Amendment and its "establishment of religion" prohibition. If I want to be Jewish, I can be and the government can't stop me. But it means more than that too. If I want to hate Asians, the government can't stop that either. I don't have the right to attack them, but I have the right to hold a sign that says I don't like them. Basically, in today's culture, it would just show how ingnorant a person can be. If the city council passed a resolution not allowing signs with racist messages, I would sue them and win. And the ACLU would count it as a victory for the freedom of expression, even though it would also further the goals of racism.
But many groups lately are forcing towns to not allow the Ku Klux Klan to hold parades. Or if the KKK does have a non-violent parade or rally, protestors show up to talk about the KKK's intolerance. It seems to start with a protest speech, then the crowd is led through anti-KKK chants, some insults are thrown around, and someone throws something at the KKK group. This of course sparks a fight, and the whole fiasco is played on the evening news.
The irony of the situation is that the anti-KKK protestors claim to hate intolerance, in all of its forms. But they can't see that their position is the epitome of intolerance. They don't want a group to express its beliefs because they disagree with those beliefs. They aren't there to have a debate with the KKK, they are there to shut them up, even if it means causing a riot to do so. And for the record, I am not a member of the KKK or any racist group, nor do I know anyone who is, and my family includes people of European, African, and Asian blood.
My cousin kant spel vary gud ether. ;^P
"Add the 't' to refer to the test.. 8-)"
;^P
And then add an 'o' to refer to my cousin..
And where the hell was the bill reader stashed at?
Yeah, but the DMCA will prevent us from learning how to bypass it from the aliens.
The ending of the series was cool. Say BYE-BYE to the later-day Bill Gates. (Hmmm, I wonder if Mr. Gates keeps _his_ mother's head alive in his basement.)
Hey, I may be stupid and ignorant, but...what was that third thing again?
Actually, you're right, we do have too much gratuitous smashing of MS on Slashdot. But basically that's the way it popped into my head.
Basically the line, "They're not bugs, they're features. Stupid Microsoft." But also with the "soft" in Microsoft, and in Watersoftener, there was a connection. Because I was originally thinking "Microsoft Water Filter", to tie it to the image of Internet filters such as NetNanny, as well as the Lameness filter here in Slashdot. But as I was typing it, it sounded better as "Microsoft Watersoftener and Filter", and of course the obligatory "version 1.0".
So, thanks for the criticism.
This computer has only five atoms. There are three atoms of the element holyshitbatmanium, with a nuclear number of 150, and atomic weight of 19803289048221043893710.83221943. And the other two are of the element startrek:wtfcjsmalobtium, which has the nuclear number 151, and atomic weight of 351789544628017086650.3015785.
What are the two factors of the number 7?
From the Yahoo article:
;-)
"Previously the largest computer IBM had built was based on five atoms."
So what about the 2 ton behemoths everyone's been buying for years?
Those aren't "bugs" in your water. They're "features", brought to you by Microsoft Watersoftener and Filter, version 1.0.
Personally, I would wait for the first service pack to be released.
"(As an aside, how they get the mice to have sex in zero g, I'll never figure out. ;) )"
There was a female comedian in the 60's named Rusty Warren (baudy, burlesque style humor). One of her albums has "Rusty Warren in Orbit" and it covered a few of those areas. Unscientifically, unfortunately. She said she would "have to tie a brick to his fanny to keep him from falling off" if I remember correctly. Of course, we know the brick would be in free fall too, so it wouldn't help. But she had great delivery, so we could overlook those things.
Too bad this couldn't have been two separate questions, one for small businesses, one for medium sized ones. So many of the very negative answers are based on someone's 'experience' in a mid to large sized business.
I have worked with many small offices that use from one to ten computers. I was doing on-site tech work, mainly fixing hardware and killing viruses. I learned how to use several accounting and inventory packages because the customer didn't know how to use it fully. From changing a template in Quickbooks for a one-man office, to specifying which LPT port to send various reports and billings to in Raintree, and then doing print capture to send LPT2, LPT3, and LPT4 to other stations for laserjet, color inkjet, or dotmatrix. I learned how to do this with each package in about 15 minutes.
This would be a good area to specialize in if you were going to start a business supporting it. Find a nice Linux accounting app, have basic hardware knowledge so you can replace hard drives, install a network if needed, and get a tape drive for daily backups. (No insult meant there, just some computer gurus only know the OS, not the hardware; you have to be able to troubleshoot and repair problems in both areas for this.) Install linux on each system, and show the customer how easy it is to use. Get a clientelle of about 50 small businesses, and you're set off to a good start.
Also, from what I have seen, I would rather have a DOS-style than a Windows-style accounting program. Less overhead on the computer and network, and more stable. And as another poster said, make sure it uses the ENTER key, not the stinking TAB to switch fields. Punching in numbers with one hand while turning pages with the other is much easier that way.
There _are_ female hobbits, you know.
But YES, Sam is gay anyhow.
So you think Plato was a member of Slashdot? That must be who has the member number #0000001.
If I fuck the local Tower Records here can I still get a free record. I'm looking for a mint copy of Scorpions "Lovedrive". Mine has slight ring wear. ;)
I think the jurors were brighter than you give them credit for. Look at some of the evidence:
1. Prosecution's star witness commits perjury by stating he had not used the word 'nigger' in the last decade. Tapes are discovered that have this witness repeatedly saying the word 'nigger'.
2. The witness is also recorded outlining how he wants to frame a famous black person for a crime, especially a crime against a white person. He's not specifically targeting any particular person, such as OJ, just anyone who fits the bill.
3. The chief forensic inspector commits perjury by stating he personally collected evidence such as blood samples for DNA testing. The official crime scene videotape shows an assistant collecting the samples. And it's possible that the assistant is doing it incorrectly.
For the record, I'm a white person. But with these three items alone, most of the prosecution's case is either invalidated or very suspect. I would not have been able to vote guilty in this case either. And I believe that either OJ did commit the crime, or he knows who did. (Some have speculated it was his son from a previous marriage, which would be very possible.) But the prosecution blew the case with little help from the defense. The defense simply pointed out the emporer had no clothes.