he big record companies said today that they would not seek government intervention to prevent digital piracy, in a compromise with technology companies that may hurt the efforts of the motion picture industry to win support for its own antipiracy plans.
The recording industry and two trade groups representing computer makers and software companies said they had arrived at several basic principles of an agreement that would help ease the tensions between their industries. They said they planned to convene a meeting of senior executives to discuss technical solutions to combat the illegal copying of digital material.
"This agreement says that those who seek to put the burden of piracy on the technology are simply missing the point," said Robert Holleyman, president of the Business Software Alliance, whose members include Microsoft, Apple Computer and Adobe Systems "Technology can be part of the solution, but it is not the entire solution."
As part of the agreement, the Recording Industry Association of America said it would oppose legislation that would require computers and consumer electronics devices to be designed to restrict unauthorized copying of audio and video material. Technology executives have hotly opposed such measures, which they argue would slow innovation, add costs to their devices and do little to stop piracy.
"We think businesses are capable of meeting these challenges," said Hillary Rosen, president of the Recording Industry Association, at a news conference in Washington. "Our industries need to work together for the consumer to benefit and for our respective businesses to grow."
In turn, the Business Software Alliance and the Computer Systems Policy Project said they would not support legislation that seeks to bolster the rights of users of digital copyrighted material, which the recording industry has said is unnecessary.
Several consumer groups and some technology companies, including Intel and Gateway, have supported legislation proposed by Representative Rick Boucher, Democrat of Virginia, that seeks to clarify the rights of copyright users in a digital age.
"As a matter of first order, we believe the marketplace should address these issues," said Ken Kay, executive director of the Computer Systems Policy Project, whose group represents Intel, as well as Dell Computer Hewlett-Packard and others.
Many consumer electronics companies did not join the agreement. They contend legislation like Rep. Boucher's is necessary to ensure that consumers can make fair use of digital copyrighted material even when it is locked up to prevent illegal copying.
The recording industry's agreement with the computer trade groups marks a departure from its longtime alliance with the motion picture industry on the antipiracy front and underscores their divergent concerns. The music industry may already have taken the hardest hit from digital piracy that it will have to face, as it begins to experiment with technological copy-protection on compact discs.
But the motion picture industry is worried that digital television broadcasts and movies copied off of DVD's will soon be traded over the Internet in the same high volumes as music is currently. Hollywood movie and television studios view federal intervention as a key element in avoiding the same fate as the recording industry.
Jack Valenti, president of the Motion Picture Association of America, said his organization still believed that "no reasonable alternative course of action should be eliminated from consideration."
"We are not prepared to abandon the option of seeking technical protection measures via the Congress or appropriate regulatory agency, when necessary," Mr. Valenti, said in a statement. "Designing ways to protect valuable creative works is very much in the long-term best interests of consumers and indispensable to the nourishment of our nation's economy."
Since the recording industry had never been a strong supporter of legislation that would mandate technical solutions to digital piracy, industry analysts said Ms. Rosen appeared to have conceded little that would have a far-reaching effect on the companies she represents.
But the move may make it harder for Mr. Valenti's group to achieve its aims.
"It has a great deal of symbolic value," said Gigi Sohn, president of Public Knowledge, a nonprofit group that has opposed legislative mandates on technology. "Public policy makers are going to ask why isn't the recording industry pushing for mandates when they're the ones getting killed?"
Just by shear volume, Linux could become #2 simply because it can run just about anything. A major PC vendor shipping and supporting Linux on the desktop would be cool.
The Console Othello darwinport is mine:) It isn't much but I like to do what I can.
Most Darwin (and OpenDarwin) developers are also FreeBSD developers and most work for Apple. They hold Gnu-Darwin in disdain because it (can) do some much damage in a Mac OS X installation.
They also know the importance of Apple as a business and believe firmmly in Open Source. Will they be sorry Gnu-Darwin is going? I doubt it, but unlike Proclus, they understand Apple first and foremost a business.
By the way you can chat with them on #opendarwin on IRC
The other day I was listening to NPR and they profiled James McMutry, a singer/song writer (he is the son of novelist Larry McMutry, who Lonesome Dove, etc). Larry has a new album out, Saint Mary of the Woods. NPR talked to him and played some samples of his music, which a kind of country/rock/folk fusion. I liked what I heard.
When I got home I jumped on Gnutella and found a song from his new CD and downloaded it. I liked it. Then I downloaded another and liked it too.
The next day I went out and bought the CD.
The RIAA can learn from this. Without being able to sample some songs so I could decide whether or not I wanted to buy the whole CD, I never would have plunked down my cash for an unknown (to me) artist. Thanks to Gnutella, James McMutry made a sale, and got a new fan.
I was never in favor of the ISS; its just a multibillion dollar turkey that sucked money out of other projects. With the money we could have saved on the ISS, we could have sent probes to every planet in the solar system but we let the siren call of the space station distract us.
I am not against the space station, I just think it was ill concieved, thats all. I agree with a previous poster: Let's rent it and move on to other, more interesting things.
I know I speak for alot of Mac users when I say the day Apple implements DRM in Macs, is the day I stop using them forever and move on to another platform. Apple knows they're dead if they do. The Mac is about freedom to think and create and when those rights are taken away, its no longer a Mac.
Transmeta's code morphing technology is interesting; they said they could mimic x86 chips as well as other kinds yet they only went with x86, which has a huge market, but by doing so they put themselves in the crosshairs of Intel, a company much larger than them.
I was hoping they would this technology to for PPC or MIPS, but alas, no.
1. The G4 is up to 1.25 Ghz and only comes in dual configurations.
2. Darwin is not the same kernel as was used in NeXT. NeXT was the 2.5 mach microkernel and BSDLite 3.2. Mac OS X is mach 3.1, FreeBSD 4.4, plus a few things from NetBSD.
3. Mac OS X does not use display postscript. It uses Quartz, which is derived from the pdf compositing engine and OpenGL.
4. The Darwin subsystem is a full Unix-like system, complete with X Windows, etc. Its as much Unix as Linux is. It even runs on x86 hardware.
5. You can boot without a GUI and manage a Mac OS X machine headless.
6. In what ways is the mach microkernel "weird"?
No matter what them platform, Open Sourcxe competition should be promoted. The fact that in this case its for the macintosh is irrelevant. If its open source, it's good.
Whether you thought American Gods was better than Goblet of Fire is irrelevant. They are are both fine books in their own right. But the important thing to remember is that they are written in very different styles and have much different target audiences.
Out of curiosity, I just went to the book store and purchased the first Honor harrington book. So, already this Baen idea has generated sales. Keep it up!
Press: Mr. Valenti, how come you didn't include Fair Use Groups in your discussion?
Valenti: We wanted to but they just disrupt things, I mean look at what happened today.
Press: They didn't get a chance to speak.
Valenti: Sure they did, they could take their piracy haboring computers online and post comments on the Department of Commerce web site.
Press: But doesn't that deprive of them of the chance to speak at the conference?
Valenti: And your point is..?
Slashdot Mirror
The web page the data is on is pcprefered.html. That tells me a pc is prefered.
It was a poor attempt at humor. But you are correct :-)
"Chasing the UnSlashdotted site"? Flash + /. = death.
I read 700 wpm. I can pretty fast, you might say.
While there seems to genuine issues here, I get the impression that neither side is being entirely forthcoming on this situation.
uh, it was cool the first time but I'm not sure its so cool as it deserves two entries on the front page!
But...but...I want my browser taken over too! We Mac users never any get any of the cool stuff Windows does...::snifff::
he big record companies said today that they would not seek government intervention to prevent digital piracy, in a compromise with technology companies that may hurt the efforts of the motion picture industry to win support for its own antipiracy plans. The recording industry and two trade groups representing computer makers and software companies said they had arrived at several basic principles of an agreement that would help ease the tensions between their industries. They said they planned to convene a meeting of senior executives to discuss technical solutions to combat the illegal copying of digital material. "This agreement says that those who seek to put the burden of piracy on the technology are simply missing the point," said Robert Holleyman, president of the Business Software Alliance, whose members include Microsoft, Apple Computer and Adobe Systems "Technology can be part of the solution, but it is not the entire solution." As part of the agreement, the Recording Industry Association of America said it would oppose legislation that would require computers and consumer electronics devices to be designed to restrict unauthorized copying of audio and video material. Technology executives have hotly opposed such measures, which they argue would slow innovation, add costs to their devices and do little to stop piracy. "We think businesses are capable of meeting these challenges," said Hillary Rosen, president of the Recording Industry Association, at a news conference in Washington. "Our industries need to work together for the consumer to benefit and for our respective businesses to grow." In turn, the Business Software Alliance and the Computer Systems Policy Project said they would not support legislation that seeks to bolster the rights of users of digital copyrighted material, which the recording industry has said is unnecessary. Several consumer groups and some technology companies, including Intel and Gateway, have supported legislation proposed by Representative Rick Boucher, Democrat of Virginia, that seeks to clarify the rights of copyright users in a digital age. "As a matter of first order, we believe the marketplace should address these issues," said Ken Kay, executive director of the Computer Systems Policy Project, whose group represents Intel, as well as Dell Computer Hewlett-Packard and others. Many consumer electronics companies did not join the agreement. They contend legislation like Rep. Boucher's is necessary to ensure that consumers can make fair use of digital copyrighted material even when it is locked up to prevent illegal copying. The recording industry's agreement with the computer trade groups marks a departure from its longtime alliance with the motion picture industry on the antipiracy front and underscores their divergent concerns. The music industry may already have taken the hardest hit from digital piracy that it will have to face, as it begins to experiment with technological copy-protection on compact discs. But the motion picture industry is worried that digital television broadcasts and movies copied off of DVD's will soon be traded over the Internet in the same high volumes as music is currently. Hollywood movie and television studios view federal intervention as a key element in avoiding the same fate as the recording industry. Jack Valenti, president of the Motion Picture Association of America, said his organization still believed that "no reasonable alternative course of action should be eliminated from consideration." "We are not prepared to abandon the option of seeking technical protection measures via the Congress or appropriate regulatory agency, when necessary," Mr. Valenti, said in a statement. "Designing ways to protect valuable creative works is very much in the long-term best interests of consumers and indispensable to the nourishment of our nation's economy." Since the recording industry had never been a strong supporter of legislation that would mandate technical solutions to digital piracy, industry analysts said Ms. Rosen appeared to have conceded little that would have a far-reaching effect on the companies she represents. But the move may make it harder for Mr. Valenti's group to achieve its aims. "It has a great deal of symbolic value," said Gigi Sohn, president of Public Knowledge, a nonprofit group that has opposed legislative mandates on technology. "Public policy makers are going to ask why isn't the recording industry pushing for mandates when they're the ones getting killed?"
Just by shear volume, Linux could become #2 simply because it can run just about anything. A major PC vendor shipping and supporting Linux on the desktop would be cool.
The Console Othello darwinport is mine :) It isn't much but I like to do what I can.
Most Darwin (and OpenDarwin) developers are also FreeBSD developers and most work for Apple. They hold Gnu-Darwin in disdain because it (can) do some much damage in a Mac OS X installation.
They also know the importance of Apple as a business and believe firmmly in Open Source. Will they be sorry Gnu-Darwin is going? I doubt it, but unlike Proclus, they understand Apple first and foremost a business.
By the way you can chat with them on #opendarwin on IRC
The other day I was listening to NPR and they profiled James McMutry, a singer/song writer (he is the son of novelist Larry McMutry, who Lonesome Dove, etc). Larry has a new album out, Saint Mary of the Woods. NPR talked to him and played some samples of his music, which a kind of country/rock/folk fusion. I liked what I heard.
When I got home I jumped on Gnutella and found a song from his new CD and downloaded it. I liked it. Then I downloaded another and liked it too.
The next day I went out and bought the CD.
The RIAA can learn from this. Without being able to sample some songs so I could decide whether or not I wanted to buy the whole CD, I never would have plunked down my cash for an unknown (to me) artist. Thanks to Gnutella, James McMutry made a sale, and got a new fan.
I was never in favor of the ISS; its just a multibillion dollar turkey that sucked money out of other projects. With the money we could have saved on the ISS, we could have sent probes to every planet in the solar system but we let the siren call of the space station distract us.
I am not against the space station, I just think it was ill concieved, thats all. I agree with a previous poster: Let's rent it and move on to other, more interesting things.
I know I speak for alot of Mac users when I say the day Apple implements DRM in Macs, is the day I stop using them forever and move on to another platform. Apple knows they're dead if they do. The Mac is about freedom to think and create and when those rights are taken away, its no longer a Mac.
Transmeta's code morphing technology is interesting; they said they could mimic x86 chips as well as other kinds yet they only went with x86, which has a huge market, but by doing so they put themselves in the crosshairs of Intel, a company much larger than them. I was hoping they would this technology to for PPC or MIPS, but alas, no.
Whamb is a brand new MP3/Ogg Player for 10.2 that is 100% cocoa and sweeeeeeeet.
To be math sounds like "No! What do you mean it didn't check!" or "What do you mean, pi r squared?"
fp
How about Kernel 2002? Kernel X? Oh I got it!!! Kernel XP...uh, nevermind. 3.0 is better! ----
1. The G4 is up to 1.25 Ghz and only comes in dual configurations.
2. Darwin is not the same kernel as was used in NeXT. NeXT was the 2.5 mach microkernel and BSDLite 3.2. Mac OS X is mach 3.1, FreeBSD 4.4, plus a few things from NetBSD.
3. Mac OS X does not use display postscript. It uses Quartz, which is derived from the pdf compositing engine and OpenGL.
4. The Darwin subsystem is a full Unix-like system, complete with X Windows, etc. Its as much Unix as Linux is. It even runs on x86 hardware.
5. You can boot without a GUI and manage a Mac OS X machine headless.
6. In what ways is the mach microkernel "weird"?
No matter what them platform, Open Sourcxe competition should be promoted. The fact that in this case its for the macintosh is irrelevant. If its open source, it's good.
Whether you thought American Gods was better than Goblet of Fire is irrelevant. They are are both fine books in their own right. But the important thing to remember is that they are written in very different styles and have much different target audiences.
So Long TurboLinux, and thanks for all the sushi!
Out of curiosity, I just went to the book store and purchased the first Honor harrington book. So, already this Baen idea has generated sales. Keep it up!
"William Gibson had spent many of his 92 years sealing his prized collection in plastic" Wow! Now THATS dedication!
Press: Mr. Valenti, how come you didn't include Fair Use Groups in your discussion? Valenti: We wanted to but they just disrupt things, I mean look at what happened today. Press: They didn't get a chance to speak. Valenti: Sure they did, they could take their piracy haboring computers online and post comments on the Department of Commerce web site. Press: But doesn't that deprive of them of the chance to speak at the conference? Valenti: And your point is..?