Actually Mr. cowardly AC, Cold fjord has it exactly correct. We have solid evidence to support their detention. But that evidence is classified. If we let them onto US soil they gain automatic right to the civilian court system which would demand that evidence or set them free. As the evidence is classified for a reason (and not to hide war crimes), we will not release the evidence and thus they would be set free.
These individuals chose to take up arms against us without being part of an actual national military, this puts them outside the protections of the Geneva and Hague conventions. We would have been fully justified to just line them up and execute them for their war crimes. We have chosen not to do so and thus we need a way and place to detain them.
A series of mysterious accidents when the Tesla Model S's the receive as their reward explode on activation. He's out a few factory rejects and little other cost.;)
They never claimed he had nukes, they claimed evidence of him trying to by yellow cake Uranium. A precursor to Nukes. Israel stomped his nuke effort in 1984 when they bombed his attempt to build a reactor and facility to generate the materials for nukes.
Why roads, think to the recent story (a few weeks ago) about a town fighting a solar installation because three of the four routes into town were already surrounded by solar. Or the possible impetus of the federal actions around the Bundy standoff in 2014 being regarding getting land for a solar plant.
Land is finite, but the roads are already publicly owned, no need to buy up the land or force owners out, or install more ugly construction, Just pave the roads with panels, let the roads generate power (which can then wirelessly charge EV's driving over them) rather than fields and fields of mirrors or panels. It's not the only solution but it is one worth trying if the panels can be made to stand up to the abuse.
You make the mistake of assuming there will be room for occupants. A solid block of aluminum with painted on windows will not put lives at risk when crushed by a tree.
Not if it carries no living passengers, and doesn't move. In 2020 Volvo will introduce autonomous blocks of solid steel, Once delivered to your home they will be immobile and have no passenger spaces. Thus Death proof.
No, he did not forget the gun was in that case. The gun is always in that case. In his rush and having to grab that case at the last second to not miss his flight when his travel case broke, he forgot to move the gun that is always in that case to another location. That is the point, there was a degree of complacency. But he did not forget where the gun was. There is a difference.
The weapon is properly stored. Contrary to popular belief, a firearm does not have to be locked up to be properly stored. It was fine until in his hurry and rush to not miss his flight he grabbed the wrong replacement laptop case.
For successful prosecution intent does count. Try and find how many of these incidents resulted in criminal charges. Very few. Why? Because the prosecutors know they cannot prove mens rea (criminal intent) sufficiently for a conviction.
As I said, I don't care for off body carry. But if the work case goes from his Home office, to his office and is secured at those locations (even if just behind a locked door) then it is not in fact irresponsible. It is not an uncommon form of carry for those who do have to go through the security to get into courts. They are known to the Courthouse security forces, and the bag is expected to have the firearm in it, while letting the individual quickly go through the magnetometer without setting it off as the security team sees the well known bag and it's expected and authorized firearm.
Yes he made a mistake, but not a criminal or really irresponsible one. There was no intent, and it really was a last second, have to grab another bag issue. I do prefer on body carry, but this kind of carry is not irresponsible or wrong. Contrary to popular belief, if you train your kids a firearm does not have to live in a safe anytime it is not on your body. Many of us grew up knowing what firearms were and that they were not to be touched and they could in fact be safely left unlocked.
Well one case locally this last year was a prominent local attorney who normally uses a different laptop bag specifically for travel, but it broke as he was getting ready to leave and in his rush he grabbed his daily carry bag and forgot to remove the weapon he keeps in there for self defense. Not that I advocate off body carry, but the mistake is understandable in that example. In a rush, something goes wrong, has to grab a different bag. Forgets in his rush to remove the firearm. It happens, it does not make one irresponsible, maybe a bit too complacent, but not necessarily irresponsible. And it takes a felony conviction to lose the right to buy/possess.
The Response? What if someone shoots at a truck. Murder verses shooing down a drone. Vast difference in crime. Plus the Trucks are on established travel routes that only cross private property via established rights of way (roads).
For an idea of what they are trying to replace, go find your local UPS distro center. See how many Package cars (UPS calls em cars) leave between 8 and 9 am each morning. Now multiple that by say 300 and you have an idea of off peak season flights (off peak average package car has around 500 items of which a large percentage are amazon packages). Come Christmas time, up that to over 700 items per car so say 400 or so Amazon packages. Now add in the packages sent via FedEx and USPS.
Yes Amazon would space those out over the course of a day, and not all those packages that are from Amazon are under 5 lbs. But that's still several thousand drone flights every day in your average UPS distro center delivery area. In Utah the Salt Lake City metro area (about 1 million people) is serviced by three centers all at one location. At Christmas peak season that's over 300 cars. Just one center will deliver 70k packages a day. And then there are people like me, I live less than a mile from a civilian airport and about two miles from an Air Force Base, no drone deliveries for me. This is a pipe dream. No city is going to want swarms of Amazon drones filling the skies everyday.
Except that it appeared that shot number two would kill it's fuel/ammo supply. Maybe it could recharge from distant stars as well, but otherwise it was about to be obsolete. Unless it could move to another star system.
The foreign intelligence collection is the job of the NSA and the entire intelligence community. It is not the worst part of all. That is international politics, everybody spies on everybody. Snowden destroyed some incredible intelligence coups. That was his biggest transgression by far.
Hillary the soon to be indicted felon? Mishandling classified information is no laughing matter. Ordering underlings to strip classification markings to send information via unsecure email is even more serious.
Not a valid reason to not be an (R). I am an(R) a rather staunch (R). I do not support or agree with him in the least. Now if he manages to get the nomination I will vote for him as I disagree with him less than I disagree with the (D) candidates, but I will push my congress critters to block him at all costs. But know that many (R)'s are not happy with the surveillance and security theater imposed by our party leadership after 9/11. It goes contrary to the basic principles of conservatism. But Rubio is an establishment candidate, but most the R candidates are better than him on this topic. We may not agree on much, but on this we are in more agreement than you think.
I agree that Snowden was a traitor. (not for revealing the NSA collecting on citizens, that was whistleblowing. He crossed the traitor line when he dumped other documents such as the collection efforts on other nations. That was the treason.
That said Rubio is flat wrong, and is a dangerous candidate because he is for more invasion of privacy. We don't need more surveillance. We need more freedom.
Are you kidding, It was the first thing on the news when I got in my car to go to work at 2 am (mst) this morning. It's been on every news site I've looked at today?
It's as old as military service. Soldiers will do amazing things with just a little recognition. It long predates the DOD. Napoleon supposedly said "Give me enough ribbon and I can conquer the world!"
Leaders can't just give more pay or benefits, but they can give awards as recognition and those awards do help towards promotions and thus more pay.
You don't wear the gold star. Some mothers will wear a decorative Pin, no other family member receives or wears a Gold star. It's a banner you hang. Just as the blue star banners are hung to show family members currently in the service.
And otherwise you are wrong. There are many medals, and many ways to earn those medals. Not all require direct personal combat or extreme danger. Such makes getting such medals far easier, but such medals can also be earned for non-combat roles. For combat awards a V device (for Valor) will be added, but again you don't have to be down in the mud to earn the V device. Pilots earn it all the time, even when casually dropping bombs from well above the AA capabilities of the enemy.
How does the Joystick jockey qualify for combat? By flying his/her drone into combat and killing fellow humans. Do it accurately and in a timely manner, saving the lives of troops on the ground and it becomes worthy of a V device. And every one of those grunts on the ground will be lining up to shake his hand in thanks if they could. These drone pilots save the lives of our troops all the time. They deserve the recognition a little ribbon and a piece of brass will give them.
His safety is not a criteria. He was there dong the job as needed. The pilot of the AC130 that could have been circling overhead instead of the drone would get an award for flying in circles while others aimed the guns and fired all at no more risk than any other flight. Further the AC130 pilot is just flying in circles over a spot, the Drone pilot is not only guiding the drone but targeting living human beings and blowing them up. Something that is psychologically damaging to do day in and day out, knowing it's not just a video game but real humans whose lives are being violently terminated.
The actions performed that shape and affect the battlefield are what matter, no matter how they are performed. The intel analyst sitting on a secure base that connects the dots revealing the enemy plans in time for the combat troops to thwart them gets rewarded, so should the drone pilot. There are various levels of awards. Yes some do or at least should involve some personal risk. But there are instances for just about every award but the CHM where it is awarded without direct combat involvement.
Napoleon was not wrong when he declared, "give me enough ribbon and I can conquer the world." Recognition is a key component in morale and promoting future efforts to excel. I agree that they should not be handed out like tic tacs, and they should never be rank based (sadly some units have determined combat medals based on ranks) but they do in fact need to be handed out for all aspects of the war fighting effort.
No actually it doesn't change anything. Buy from an online store and they will ship it to the dealer of your choice who will run the background check on you. exactly as it already is. It will not eliminate online sales as any firearm that has to be shipped must go through an FFL and thus requires a background check.
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Actually Mr. cowardly AC, Cold fjord has it exactly correct. We have solid evidence to support their detention. But that evidence is classified. If we let them onto US soil they gain automatic right to the civilian court system which would demand that evidence or set them free. As the evidence is classified for a reason (and not to hide war crimes), we will not release the evidence and thus they would be set free.
These individuals chose to take up arms against us without being part of an actual national military, this puts them outside the protections of the Geneva and Hague conventions. We would have been fully justified to just line them up and execute them for their war crimes. We have chosen not to do so and thus we need a way and place to detain them.
A series of mysterious accidents when the Tesla Model S's the receive as their reward explode on activation. He's out a few factory rejects and little other cost. ;)
They never claimed he had nukes, they claimed evidence of him trying to by yellow cake Uranium. A precursor to Nukes. Israel stomped his nuke effort in 1984 when they bombed his attempt to build a reactor and facility to generate the materials for nukes.
Why roads, think to the recent story (a few weeks ago) about a town fighting a solar installation because three of the four routes into town were already surrounded by solar. Or the possible impetus of the federal actions around the Bundy standoff in 2014 being regarding getting land for a solar plant.
Land is finite, but the roads are already publicly owned, no need to buy up the land or force owners out, or install more ugly construction, Just pave the roads with panels, let the roads generate power (which can then wirelessly charge EV's driving over them) rather than fields and fields of mirrors or panels. It's not the only solution but it is one worth trying if the panels can be made to stand up to the abuse.
You make the mistake of assuming there will be room for occupants. A solid block of aluminum with painted on windows will not put lives at risk when crushed by a tree.
Not if it carries no living passengers, and doesn't move. In 2020 Volvo will introduce autonomous blocks of solid steel, Once delivered to your home they will be immobile and have no passenger spaces. Thus Death proof.
No, he did not forget the gun was in that case. The gun is always in that case. In his rush and having to grab that case at the last second to not miss his flight when his travel case broke, he forgot to move the gun that is always in that case to another location. That is the point, there was a degree of complacency. But he did not forget where the gun was. There is a difference.
The weapon is properly stored. Contrary to popular belief, a firearm does not have to be locked up to be properly stored. It was fine until in his hurry and rush to not miss his flight he grabbed the wrong replacement laptop case.
For successful prosecution intent does count. Try and find how many of these incidents resulted in criminal charges. Very few. Why? Because the prosecutors know they cannot prove mens rea (criminal intent) sufficiently for a conviction.
As I said, I don't care for off body carry. But if the work case goes from his Home office, to his office and is secured at those locations (even if just behind a locked door) then it is not in fact irresponsible. It is not an uncommon form of carry for those who do have to go through the security to get into courts. They are known to the Courthouse security forces, and the bag is expected to have the firearm in it, while letting the individual quickly go through the magnetometer without setting it off as the security team sees the well known bag and it's expected and authorized firearm.
Yes he made a mistake, but not a criminal or really irresponsible one. There was no intent, and it really was a last second, have to grab another bag issue. I do prefer on body carry, but this kind of carry is not irresponsible or wrong. Contrary to popular belief, if you train your kids a firearm does not have to live in a safe anytime it is not on your body. Many of us grew up knowing what firearms were and that they were not to be touched and they could in fact be safely left unlocked.
Well one case locally this last year was a prominent local attorney who normally uses a different laptop bag specifically for travel, but it broke as he was getting ready to leave and in his rush he grabbed his daily carry bag and forgot to remove the weapon he keeps in there for self defense. Not that I advocate off body carry, but the mistake is understandable in that example. In a rush, something goes wrong, has to grab a different bag. Forgets in his rush to remove the firearm. It happens, it does not make one irresponsible, maybe a bit too complacent, but not necessarily irresponsible. And it takes a felony conviction to lose the right to buy/possess.
One that property owners will dispute. An invisible right of way is far different from a paved roadway.
Maybe because every Christmas every neighborhood is full of enterprising thieves cruising the neighborhoods looking for packages to pick up.
The Response? What if someone shoots at a truck. Murder verses shooing down a drone. Vast difference in crime. Plus the Trucks are on established travel routes that only cross private property via established rights of way (roads).
For an idea of what they are trying to replace, go find your local UPS distro center. See how many Package cars (UPS calls em cars) leave between 8 and 9 am each morning. Now multiple that by say 300 and you have an idea of off peak season flights (off peak average package car has around 500 items of which a large percentage are amazon packages). Come Christmas time, up that to over 700 items per car so say 400 or so Amazon packages. Now add in the packages sent via FedEx and USPS.
Yes Amazon would space those out over the course of a day, and not all those packages that are from Amazon are under 5 lbs. But that's still several thousand drone flights every day in your average UPS distro center delivery area. In Utah the Salt Lake City metro area (about 1 million people) is serviced by three centers all at one location. At Christmas peak season that's over 300 cars. Just one center will deliver 70k packages a day. And then there are people like me, I live less than a mile from a civilian airport and about two miles from an Air Force Base, no drone deliveries for me. This is a pipe dream. No city is going to want swarms of Amazon drones filling the skies everyday.
Except that it appeared that shot number two would kill it's fuel/ammo supply. Maybe it could recharge from distant stars as well, but otherwise it was about to be obsolete. Unless it could move to another star system.
The foreign intelligence collection is the job of the NSA and the entire intelligence community. It is not the worst part of all. That is international politics, everybody spies on everybody. Snowden destroyed some incredible intelligence coups. That was his biggest transgression by far.
Hillary the soon to be indicted felon? Mishandling classified information is no laughing matter. Ordering underlings to strip classification markings to send information via unsecure email is even more serious.
Not a valid reason to not be an (R). I am an(R) a rather staunch (R). I do not support or agree with him in the least. Now if he manages to get the nomination I will vote for him as I disagree with him less than I disagree with the (D) candidates, but I will push my congress critters to block him at all costs. But know that many (R)'s are not happy with the surveillance and security theater imposed by our party leadership after 9/11. It goes contrary to the basic principles of conservatism. But Rubio is an establishment candidate, but most the R candidates are better than him on this topic. We may not agree on much, but on this we are in more agreement than you think.
I agree that Snowden was a traitor. (not for revealing the NSA collecting on citizens, that was whistleblowing. He crossed the traitor line when he dumped other documents such as the collection efforts on other nations. That was the treason.
That said Rubio is flat wrong, and is a dangerous candidate because he is for more invasion of privacy. We don't need more surveillance. We need more freedom.
Are you kidding, It was the first thing on the news when I got in my car to go to work at 2 am (mst) this morning. It's been on every news site I've looked at today?
It's as old as military service. Soldiers will do amazing things with just a little recognition. It long predates the DOD. Napoleon supposedly said "Give me enough ribbon and I can conquer the world!"
Leaders can't just give more pay or benefits, but they can give awards as recognition and those awards do help towards promotions and thus more pay.
Just a note, the first weaponized drone was tested and validated for deployment in late 2000. We had armed drones in wide use well before 2009.
You don't wear the gold star. Some mothers will wear a decorative Pin, no other family member receives or wears a Gold star. It's a banner you hang. Just as the blue star banners are hung to show family members currently in the service.
And otherwise you are wrong. There are many medals, and many ways to earn those medals. Not all require direct personal combat or extreme danger. Such makes getting such medals far easier, but such medals can also be earned for non-combat roles. For combat awards a V device (for Valor) will be added, but again you don't have to be down in the mud to earn the V device. Pilots earn it all the time, even when casually dropping bombs from well above the AA capabilities of the enemy.
How does the Joystick jockey qualify for combat? By flying his/her drone into combat and killing fellow humans. Do it accurately and in a timely manner, saving the lives of troops on the ground and it becomes worthy of a V device. And every one of those grunts on the ground will be lining up to shake his hand in thanks if they could. These drone pilots save the lives of our troops all the time. They deserve the recognition a little ribbon and a piece of brass will give them.
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His safety is not a criteria. He was there dong the job as needed. The pilot of the AC130 that could have been circling overhead instead of the drone would get an award for flying in circles while others aimed the guns and fired all at no more risk than any other flight. Further the AC130 pilot is just flying in circles over a spot, the Drone pilot is not only guiding the drone but targeting living human beings and blowing them up. Something that is psychologically damaging to do day in and day out, knowing it's not just a video game but real humans whose lives are being violently terminated.
The actions performed that shape and affect the battlefield are what matter, no matter how they are performed. The intel analyst sitting on a secure base that connects the dots revealing the enemy plans in time for the combat troops to thwart them gets rewarded, so should the drone pilot. There are various levels of awards. Yes some do or at least should involve some personal risk. But there are instances for just about every award but the CHM where it is awarded without direct combat involvement.
Napoleon was not wrong when he declared, "give me enough ribbon and I can conquer the world." Recognition is a key component in morale and promoting future efforts to excel. I agree that they should not be handed out like tic tacs, and they should never be rank based (sadly some units have determined combat medals based on ranks) but they do in fact need to be handed out for all aspects of the war fighting effort.
No actually it doesn't change anything. Buy from an online store and they will ship it to the dealer of your choice who will run the background check on you. exactly as it already is. It will not eliminate online sales as any firearm that has to be shipped must go through an FFL and thus requires a background check.