We the public may not know who is being targeted, but believe me anyone who is targeted knows why they are being targeted. I named one individual I know of as being actively targeted.
The government (who we must never forget is made up of fellow, honest citizens, just trying to do their job, it's not some nebulous malevolent force) isn't just targeting US citizens willy nilly. Even non-US targets require an extensive vetting to be named as a target.
Yes innocents die in war. Far fewer by our hand in this war than in previous wars.
We are at war, at war with a movement that does not heed the Geneva conventions, and has no respect for life.
When we strike; collateral deaths, while very limited compared to carpet bombing tactics of the past, do occur. But look at who we are fighting. We do not actively or intentionally target innocents. We don't intentionally bomb busy marketplaces, skyscrapers, crowded bars or any of the other places these people target. When we attack, unfortunately innocents do die. When they attack they intend for innocents to die, as many as possible. Seldom do they even bother to go after "acceptable" military targets. They don't have the courage to go up against a target that might fight back.
You criticize the limited collateral innocent casualties from our carefully targeted attacks(yes even the accidental ones that totally miss the intended targets are still attempts to be careful,) yet give them free ride on blowing up markets, bars, trains, subways, and skyscrapers?
Of course not. Al Qaeda has absolutely no qualms about killing hundreds or even thousands of innocent victims in a single attack. Attacks which target the innocents, rather than attacks that target specific legal targets and either result in collateral casualties, or were accidentally mis-targeted.
I love it when people try to bring up innocent victims in our fight against these terrorists. We wring our hands over even a single innocent death, while they couldn't care less about killing hundreds or thousands at a time. They have no value for human life while we value a single life quite highly. It's war, it's an asymmetric war, innocents will die, most we kill will be accidental or collateral. The ones they kill will be intentional. Can you see the difference?
Remember on a normal day almost 50,000 people worked in the twin towers, luckily most of them were able to escape. What if they hadn't been able to?
In the case of Adam Gadahn who has been indicted for treason. It's based on his numerous videos, letters and public statements on behalf of Al Qaeda. True he hasn't been convicted in a court of Law yet, but that's only because we wish him to be present at his trial. The evidence is more than enough to convict with ease. And that's with just the unclassified evidence.
However; if you join another nations military or align yourselves with terrorists seeking to destroy our country, yes you actually do lose them. Your citizenship is forfeit if you do those things.
Those citizens have for one reason or another chosen to associate themselves with our sworn enemies(the enemies have done the swearing not us). They are overseas in a war zone, working and living in close proximity to legitimate targets.
You do retain some of your constitutional rights overseas but not all of them. And in fact there is no requirement of the US intel community to verify the citizenship of an individual overseas. Stateside intel collectors must assume, until proven otherwise, that any individual is a US Person. Overseas the assumption goes the other way. And if you join the armed forces of another nation or power you surrender your Citizenship. These individuals are working with Al Qaeda or the Taliban, their constitutional rights as a citizen are forfeit.
No the ACLU does not have any grounds to be involved other than to make the press. You work or hang out with known terrorists, guess what, you stand the chance of catching a missile.
We are at war with a movement that has sworn to see us our faith (if we aren't the same extreme form of Islam as they are) and our form of government wiped from the earth. War is hell but it is a war, and we will execute that war using the best tools we have at our disposal.
Actually they like using thermobaric missiles, which are designed to penetrate into a building before detonating. Anyone in the room, building or compound is toast(literally) but surrounding areas are at little risk.
This as opposed to the historic method of bombing, drop hundreds or thousands of dumb bombs across a large swath of terrain killing everyone anywhere near the targeted area, assuming the bombardier actually manages to hit the target.
Probably US Citizens like Al Qaeda spokesman Adam Gadahn, whom we recently thought had been arrested, but unfortunately was not. He is wanted for treason and has a one million dollar price on his head. He is actively working against the US, has been indicted for treason, the first case since the 50's, and is therefore a viable target.
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Or use a Canadian quarter like in this story, nobody will suspect it.
The post names are well publicized in the press. He didn't give any revealing information about locations or layouts or even specific times he was at which camps. No OPSEC violation here.
Same thing in the Army. USB devices capable of storing data are blocked. eSATA and SD cards still work in my issue machine but not the USB, that only works for non-storage devices like keyboards and mice.
But that question is totally irrelevant. This work is an accepted work of art.
Or to go with your argument. If I mold some elephant dung into the shape of an ear and call it art; it is covered by copyright whether you think it is art or a pile of crap. And should you or anyone else decide to take and sell pictures of my crappy art (pun intended) I get to go after them for infringing on my copyrights. And your claims that it is just a pile of crap have no bearing on the issue.
True, but in this case the only victims so far had the debit card aspect fraudulently used. So the initial advice give to the public when this broke was "If you must pay at the pump, use credit not debit."
Good analysis. The skimmers in question were built by someone who knows their way around these pumps. They evidently replaced the entire panel. The device would read the card data, and record the typed in PIN. It then held the data until the paired Bluetooth receiver came in range and then would dump it's data.
No need to sit in proximity to the compromised pump. I haven't seen anything on the storage capacity but I dare say who ever was doing this just downloaded when they filled their tank up, or when they'd stop by for morning coffee.
The way they were able to make the switch is all pumps nationwide are made by only two manufacturers, and those manufacturers each have A key design to open their pumps. Two keys can open every modern gas pump in the country.
All the perps needed to do was get access to one machine of the model used at the targeted 7-11. Rewire the front panel from that one. Make the swap and rewire the swapped out panel for the next pump they want to wire.
Contrary to TFA, most reports are that only one or two stations were found to be compromised, but given time that number could have quickly grown.
Up above I linked to an article about a Gas chain that heard of this potential scam, identified the weakness in the key system and re-keyed all their pumps with each store having a unique key pattern for its pumps. Not perfect, but makes the inside part of such an inside job have to be an employee of the store the pump is located at.
Um, no they don't. It's not just snow lying on the ground that is an issue, it's when it's dropping out of the sky with a nice 20 mph wind as well. Add in traffic and it's nearly suicidal to try to ride to work.
These devices don't rely on a camera, they recorded the PIN as it was punched in.
And TFA would cite the one agency that reported 180 pumps, everyone else is saying it was the pumps at only one or two stations. The key weakness in this situation is that two manufacturers make all the pumps used nationwide. And they each have A single key that works on all pumps they make.
Get one of those keys and accessing the internals of the pumps is a piece of cake. This article talks about this event and one local chain that had anticipated and addressed this weakness.
KSL News
Let your Senators know everything wrong with this proposed treaty. The President and his trade reps can sign anything they want. It still has to be ratified by the Senate.
What this leaked document should be is a call for very U.S. based/. reader to start contacting his/her Senators, and using any forums they have access to to raise public awareness of this issue.
This is why Copenhagen didn't really concern me, it's why we never heeded Kyoto, the Senate shot it down.
It's one thing for the executive branch to sign a treaty, pledging away our rights in the name of international cooperation. It's another thing for the Senate to actually ratify such a treaty. And the failure to ratify such damaging treaties is rarely along party lines.
The Media industry will open it's pockets in support of the treaty. The tech/internet/software/consumer products and many other industries as well as many other interest groups will open their pockets in opposition. I don't see any treaty negotiated in secrecy, and so blatantly signing away basic freedoms as getting much support in the Senate.
But it requires vigilance and effort in spreading the word, and letting our fellow citizens know how bad this treaty is. You get enough people complaining and congress critters do actually listen. But it takes a lot of complaints and we as a people have tended to be too lazy to put much effort into opposing many bad laws.
Even if this is finalized, and the US trade representative and the President sign the treaty, it still has no force of effect unless and until the Senate Ratifies it. Which I find very unlikely.
And the Supreme Court (which in its current make-up is currently not likely to allow such a blatant assault on our freedoms) can reject it as well.
I use bit-torrent all the time. It works great. Back when they were using sandvine it wasn't so hot, and I was looking for an alternate, but not anymore. I could get equally fast speeds but not at the price, and I'd have to get a digital converter box or something in order to watch any TV if I did drop it.
I have to agree with this. I have good service with them, the few times I've had connectivity problems they sent out a tech who found and fixed the problem, all at no cost to me. It may help that I own the cable router rather than rent it.
Xfinity = how long it'll take to figure out how to pronounce this abomination of a word. (exfinity? zhfinity, hfinity) no pronunciation I can think of makes any sense.
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We the public may not know who is being targeted, but believe me anyone who is targeted knows why they are being targeted. I named one individual I know of as being actively targeted.
The government (who we must never forget is made up of fellow, honest citizens, just trying to do their job, it's not some nebulous malevolent force) isn't just targeting US citizens willy nilly. Even non-US targets require an extensive vetting to be named as a target.
Yes innocents die in war. Far fewer by our hand in this war than in previous wars.
We are at war, at war with a movement that does not heed the Geneva conventions, and has no respect for life.
When we strike; collateral deaths, while very limited compared to carpet bombing tactics of the past, do occur. But look at who we are fighting. We do not actively or intentionally target innocents. We don't intentionally bomb busy marketplaces, skyscrapers, crowded bars or any of the other places these people target. When we attack, unfortunately innocents do die. When they attack they intend for innocents to die, as many as possible. Seldom do they even bother to go after "acceptable" military targets. They don't have the courage to go up against a target that might fight back.
You criticize the limited collateral innocent casualties from our carefully targeted attacks(yes even the accidental ones that totally miss the intended targets are still attempts to be careful,) yet give them free ride on blowing up markets, bars, trains, subways, and skyscrapers?
Cite. UAV's are flown by Air Force pilots. Pilots who by training and doctrine wont take a crap without following a lengthy checklist.
Of course not. Al Qaeda has absolutely no qualms about killing hundreds or even thousands of innocent victims in a single attack. Attacks which target the innocents, rather than attacks that target specific legal targets and either result in collateral casualties, or were accidentally mis-targeted.
I love it when people try to bring up innocent victims in our fight against these terrorists. We wring our hands over even a single innocent death, while they couldn't care less about killing hundreds or thousands at a time. They have no value for human life while we value a single life quite highly. It's war, it's an asymmetric war, innocents will die, most we kill will be accidental or collateral. The ones they kill will be intentional. Can you see the difference?
Remember on a normal day almost 50,000 people worked in the twin towers, luckily most of them were able to escape. What if they hadn't been able to?
In the case of Adam Gadahn who has been indicted for treason. It's based on his numerous videos, letters and public statements on behalf of Al Qaeda. True he hasn't been convicted in a court of Law yet, but that's only because we wish him to be present at his trial. The evidence is more than enough to convict with ease. And that's with just the unclassified evidence.
If you leave the country, no.
However; if you join another nations military or align yourselves with terrorists seeking to destroy our country, yes you actually do lose them. Your citizenship is forfeit if you do those things.
Those citizens have for one reason or another chosen to associate themselves with our sworn enemies(the enemies have done the swearing not us). They are overseas in a war zone, working and living in close proximity to legitimate targets.
You do retain some of your constitutional rights overseas but not all of them. And in fact there is no requirement of the US intel community to verify the citizenship of an individual overseas. Stateside intel collectors must assume, until proven otherwise, that any individual is a US Person. Overseas the assumption goes the other way. And if you join the armed forces of another nation or power you surrender your Citizenship. These individuals are working with Al Qaeda or the Taliban, their constitutional rights as a citizen are forfeit.
No the ACLU does not have any grounds to be involved other than to make the press. You work or hang out with known terrorists, guess what, you stand the chance of catching a missile.
We are at war with a movement that has sworn to see us our faith (if we aren't the same extreme form of Islam as they are) and our form of government wiped from the earth. War is hell but it is a war, and we will execute that war using the best tools we have at our disposal.
Actually they like using thermobaric missiles, which are designed to penetrate into a building before detonating. Anyone in the room, building or compound is toast(literally) but surrounding areas are at little risk.
This as opposed to the historic method of bombing, drop hundreds or thousands of dumb bombs across a large swath of terrain killing everyone anywhere near the targeted area, assuming the bombardier actually manages to hit the target.
Probably US Citizens like Al Qaeda spokesman Adam Gadahn, whom we recently thought had been arrested, but unfortunately was not. He is wanted for treason and has a one million dollar price on his head. He is actively working against the US, has been indicted for treason, the first case since the 50's, and is therefore a viable target.
Or use a Canadian quarter like in this story, nobody will suspect it.
The post names are well publicized in the press. He didn't give any revealing information about locations or layouts or even specific times he was at which camps. No OPSEC violation here.
Same thing in the Army. USB devices capable of storing data are blocked. eSATA and SD cards still work in my issue machine but not the USB, that only works for non-storage devices like keyboards and mice.
But that question is totally irrelevant. This work is an accepted work of art.
Or to go with your argument. If I mold some elephant dung into the shape of an ear and call it art; it is covered by copyright whether you think it is art or a pile of crap. And should you or anyone else decide to take and sell pictures of my crappy art (pun intended) I get to go after them for infringing on my copyrights. And your claims that it is just a pile of crap have no bearing on the issue.
True, but in this case the only victims so far had the debit card aspect fraudulently used. So the initial advice give to the public when this broke was "If you must pay at the pump, use credit not debit."
Agreed, can we call it JaredOfEuropa's Law
Make that "some people in Utah." This Utahn most certainly does not want this. And is concerned that this bill has moved so far through the process.
But it isn't law yet. Every state has hundreds of dumb, crazy and scary bills introduced each year. Most never get voted on outside of committee.
Good analysis. The skimmers in question were built by someone who knows their way around these pumps. They evidently replaced the entire panel. The device would read the card data, and record the typed in PIN. It then held the data until the paired Bluetooth receiver came in range and then would dump it's data.
No need to sit in proximity to the compromised pump. I haven't seen anything on the storage capacity but I dare say who ever was doing this just downloaded when they filled their tank up, or when they'd stop by for morning coffee.
The way they were able to make the switch is all pumps nationwide are made by only two manufacturers, and those manufacturers each have A key design to open their pumps. Two keys can open every modern gas pump in the country.
All the perps needed to do was get access to one machine of the model used at the targeted 7-11. Rewire the front panel from that one. Make the swap and rewire the swapped out panel for the next pump they want to wire.
Contrary to TFA, most reports are that only one or two stations were found to be compromised, but given time that number could have quickly grown.
Up above I linked to an article about a Gas chain that heard of this potential scam, identified the weakness in the key system and re-keyed all their pumps with each store having a unique key pattern for its pumps. Not perfect, but makes the inside part of such an inside job have to be an employee of the store the pump is located at.
Um, no they don't. It's not just snow lying on the ground that is an issue, it's when it's dropping out of the sky with a nice 20 mph wind as well. Add in traffic and it's nearly suicidal to try to ride to work.
These devices don't rely on a camera, they recorded the PIN as it was punched in. And TFA would cite the one agency that reported 180 pumps, everyone else is saying it was the pumps at only one or two stations. The key weakness in this situation is that two manufacturers make all the pumps used nationwide. And they each have A single key that works on all pumps they make.
Get one of those keys and accessing the internals of the pumps is a piece of cake. This article talks about this event and one local chain that had anticipated and addressed this weakness. KSL News
Let your Senators know everything wrong with this proposed treaty. The President and his trade reps can sign anything they want. It still has to be ratified by the Senate.
/. reader to start contacting his/her Senators, and using any forums they have access to to raise public awareness of this issue.
What this leaked document should be is a call for very U.S. based
This is why Copenhagen didn't really concern me, it's why we never heeded Kyoto, the Senate shot it down.
It's one thing for the executive branch to sign a treaty, pledging away our rights in the name of international cooperation. It's another thing for the Senate to actually ratify such a treaty. And the failure to ratify such damaging treaties is rarely along party lines.
The Media industry will open it's pockets in support of the treaty. The tech/internet/software/consumer products and many other industries as well as many other interest groups will open their pockets in opposition. I don't see any treaty negotiated in secrecy, and so blatantly signing away basic freedoms as getting much support in the Senate.
But it requires vigilance and effort in spreading the word, and letting our fellow citizens know how bad this treaty is. You get enough people complaining and congress critters do actually listen. But it takes a lot of complaints and we as a people have tended to be too lazy to put much effort into opposing many bad laws.
Even if this is finalized, and the US trade representative and the President sign the treaty, it still has no force of effect unless and until the Senate Ratifies it. Which I find very unlikely.
And the Supreme Court (which in its current make-up is currently not likely to allow such a blatant assault on our freedoms) can reject it as well.
I use bit-torrent all the time. It works great. Back when they were using sandvine it wasn't so hot, and I was looking for an alternate, but not anymore. I could get equally fast speeds but not at the price, and I'd have to get a digital converter box or something in order to watch any TV if I did drop it.
I have to agree with this. I have good service with them, the few times I've had connectivity problems they sent out a tech who found and fixed the problem, all at no cost to me. It may help that I own the cable router rather than rent it.
Xfinity = how long it'll take to figure out how to pronounce this abomination of a word. (exfinity? zhfinity, hfinity) no pronunciation I can think of makes any sense.
Okay, then how about complaints from the folks up in Canada? http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Scientists+using+selective+temperature+data+skeptics/2468634/story.html
This is not an isolated incident, Climategate just opened the door and started the revelations.