" Had battle.net been the ONLY way to play, then it would be somewhat effetive."
Not necessarily. You had to work harder to get a game going.
" However, bnetd did not affect that, it only allowed to play games that themselves had the ability to connect to other services. hence I don't see any problem with that."
I do, since pirated keys were allowed on without any challenge.
"The problem of piracy in that case have nothing to do with bnetd but about the game being dead easy to pirateand play anyway."
That's a pretty flimsy rationalization, man. Software is always easy to pirate. Blizzard took an extra step and BNetD bypassed it.
"So? That has nothing to do with pirating the game since a pirated game does not correspond to a blacklisted key."
Step 1. Download ISo of Game Step 2. Acquire pirated CD key so ISo will install Step 3. Shout 'fuck' when Battle.net won't let you on Step 4. use BNetD to get on instead.
"That seems to be were the problem for you lies, you assume that if Blizzard blacklist a key, one can't even copy, install or play the game at all. That is not the case."
Right, I understand this. I never disputed this. The catch is that you can't use Battle.net. The client built into your game that made it sooOOOoo easy to connect on-line against other people would not let you on. Your alternatives? Welp, they weren't GameSpy or MSN. You found yourself seeking alternatives then. In other words: use a pirated copy? Get annoyingly inconvience. You're talking technical, I'm talking practical.
" This clearly show that pirated games and blacklisting has nothing to do with each other"
No, you clearly showed that key wasn't blacklisted.
"To which you reply about blacklisting. I was talking about pirated games."
They blacklisted pirated keys.
"Blacklisting has nothing to do with pirating, copyright or protection circumvention."
They blacklisted pirated keys.
"So try to keep on suibject, don't reply about blacklisting when I comment a statement you make about pirating and the other way arround, they are not the same."
Heh. I have to ask: Are you even trying to understand where I'm coming frm here?
"My "defence" is only that it has not done anything ilegal from a circumvention point of view..."
For the record: I never said that, either. I never made a comment on the legality of BNetD's actions. My point was that I had no sympathy for them getting sued. I would have preferred it if they had won, actually. Still, I'm not about to join the "Boycott Blizzard!" pitchfork party when they acted completely as expected given BnetD's little misstep.
"The pirtaed key has nothing to do with it, it doesn't stop the game from working, it only stops access to battle.net. How hard is that to understand?"
How hard is it to understand that this is a rather effective form of piracy prevention?
"Interesting how you don't even answer the question. I assume you don't have an answer then."
Already answered it. You complained about my repeating myself so I saved you that. Sooooorrrry.
"People with pirtaed games can do the same, they can also chose to play on either."
Except those that have blacklisted keys, they can't play on battle.net.
"You do know what bnetd is, right? It is a matchmaking service for different games. To even use it, you must have a game to start with, it doesn't help you create or copy games."
... and if you have a pirated copy of the game with a pirated key, you can still play it! Wee!
"It doesn't affect your ability to play the game or use the game at all?"
(unless you want to play on-line... sssshhh!!!)
"Again, if you don't understand these simple concepts, it is pointless discusssing with you."... said the guy who's failing to understand an even simpler concept.
"With bnetd, you can't access anything you would not be able to access anyway without it."
You could access on-line play that wouldn't be allowed on battle.net.
"Your claim that one can't pirtae the game without bnetd is false since I have just tried it and done it without bnetd."
You didn't use a blacklisted key. Very scientific. Hmm I wonder why lots of people banded together and made up a bunch of stories about this before BNetD came along? Strange what people will do on the internet these days.
"Bnetd doesn't affect the ability to pirate games at all..."
Yeah, it only allows blacklisted keys to be played so people don't actually have to run out to the store and purchase it.
"Circumventing a protection, means you manage to do what the protection tried to prevent."
Yeah, like blacklisting pirated keys so they can't play the most 'fun' area of the game.
"Yes you do, you claim that unless they do the same blacklisting as battle.net, they are in the wrong."
Nah, I didn't. But given your overzealous defense of BnetD, I can see why you see it that way. Part of me is considering letting you in more on what I think of the situation. But I have to be honest, besides the fun of watching you trip over your own feet in this debate, I honestly don't think you're going to spend any time at all trying to work this out with me in a civilized matter. In other words, anything I say that doesn't sound like "Oh you were right and I'm wrong, I'm such a twit!" is simply going to result in yet another long winded overstated undercooked argument.
On a more serious note, hope you had a good weekend.
"A lot of spelling errors get through on Slashdot, but this has got to be one of the worst. Jeez."
I wish I was so smart that a simple spelling error rendered it impossible for me to process the content of the article.
"My built in spell checker is going bezerk! ARRGH!!"
Re:Honest question - please hear me out.
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"What can an RSS/Atom reader do for me?"
At work I have a 'sidebar' installed that has a lot of interesting little odds and ends. It cycles through today's comics, etc. One of the features is that it downloads RSS feeds and puts the headlines up and cycles through them. For what I do for my job, my computer often ends up busy for a few seconds at a time, so I just glance over to the right and have a peek at what's going on in the world. Kinda nice having the info I want show up without my having to seek it. Personally, I think that's a great use of RSS.
Several years ago I wrote a sceensaver in Visual Basic that sort of did the same job. I gave it a list of websites to go to and it'd fire up the IE ActiveX control, load the page, make it full screen, and it would slowly scroll the length of the page. Then it'd move on to the next page, and so on. Fun little evening project. Kind of wish I had it now since I've got a computer sitting next to me that's idling most of the time.
Insightful? Smoking's bad because it's addictive, mmmkay. If this is the sort of comment that's 'insightful', then I think I'm just going to watch Sesame Street instead.
"So? It still doesn't have anything to do with bnetd."
They bypassed the protection.
"bnetd doesn't circumvent anythiong so that you can go to battle.net if you are blacklisted for example,"
BNetD is letting you play the game with a pirated copy of the CD Key.
"No, since you can copy the game just as easilly or hard regardless of if there is or if you use bnetd."
With BNetD, ALL of those pirated keys can be used.
"Bceause of bnetd???? You had to go out and buy a new copy??? You turn stranger every day."
Heh. Dude, c'mon, I know you don't want to agree with my point on any level, but are you really going to sink to that level? My point was clear. Battle.net prevented pirated copies of the game from being played. If I had used BNetD, I could have used a pirated copy of the game. There, simple.
"Your argument is that bnetd doesn't do the same thing as Blizzard, hence it is bad."
Heh. I didn't make any arguments about what BNetD should have done.
"Since it is not a question, you cna't answer it. Apeparantly you still don't understand it though you seem to have read a bit about it."
Hehehehe.
"Still you have not clarified WHAT is being protected"
Hehe again. You don't have much credibility left to lose, man. I'm trying to be respectful here, but you're really making it difficult.
" what does battle.nets blacklisting have anything to do with bnetd?"
Blacklisting was being used to disable the ability to play pirated copies of Blizzard's games on Battle.net.
"Why are you babling about COPY protection when it doesn't affect copying at all?"
It affects copy protection quite nicely. I should know, it forced me to buy a new copy when I lost the number to my old one. None of the serials I could find would work. Battle.net barfed on them. The only real saving grace to it was by then it only cost $20 or so. Rather spiffy at preventing me from acquiring a pirated copy, though I was a legit customer. (grumble grumble.)
"Since you repeatedly seems to come back to "bnetd must do the same as Blzizard or it is copyprotection", then I ask, what is your point with those false statements?"
If you were actually understanding my point instead of trying every which way to dodge it, I wouldn't be repeating myself. BTW, it's really cute that later you whine about my putting words in your mouth. Heh. I have a feeling you've had an imaginary conversation with me that goes into great detail about what Blizzard should have done, what BNetD should have done, and general discussion about how I think competition should work. In that case, I hope you toss it, because I'm expending an awful amount of energy babbling about this excess garbage when my point was so simple.
"I have not commented on your person, so stop putting words in my mouth."
Directly? Maybe not. I'm quite confident, however, that you meant to.
"I must assume that you simply is against competition."
Not a nice thing to say, nor was it a solid conclusion to draw. My motivations/biases/etc aren't terribly related to this debate unless you intend to 'win' by muddy'ing my character. Given your other attempts to do so, you'll pardon me for not apologizing.
"And you have shown you really have no clue about how Blizzard's cd-keys work and how battle.net work."
I thought I'd respond to this last because it's so amusing. Let's forget my personal experience with the matter, or the number of websites that have reported this, or that this came up in court, or my subscription to a delusion shared by lots and lots of people, and get to a really really interesting question: Why would Blizzard not blacklist pirated keys when it'd be so easy to do and be so effective?
Boy I can't wait to read your next overly long-winded rebuttal with more lines of dialog that I never delivered.
"I recall watching one of these races sometime in the 1940s. Even using relatively primitive technology, some the participants were able to build cars that were quite fast. Unfortunately, I also witnessed a rather gruesome accident."
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? I promise, I'm not setting up a joke or anything like that. But if you're 70/80 years old, I'm really curious what you think of how times have changed in the last few decades.
"And I see no point in using their service only for non-sensitive needs, while returning to my existing solutions for private matters."
a.) Hard drives fail. b.) Some of us actually use several different computers where the only common connection is the internet. Myself, I have a desktop, laptop that travels with me, and my workstation at work. I use GMail for sharing stuff between them. I wouldn't mind a better solution. c.) Extra options is a good thing, not a bad thing.
"I don't think thousandss of people are going to be running into the streets after hearing Patrick Stewart and Leonary Nimoy, f'rinstance, declaring that aliens are among us..."
Um. I really don't expect that happening either way. Thousands of people probably would, however, listen because it's the TNG cast.
"In any event, that's uncompressed. With compression (which is quite inevitable) that'll drop anywhere from 10:1 to 100:1. In the extreme case, 210GB doesn't sound so bad. 5 years from now or so we'll have HDs that'll handle that fairly easily."
"Imax at 60fps?, hardly. Normal 35mm projectors move film at 24 fps, with a 2-bladed shutter exposing each frame twice, for an image refresh rate of 48fps. I can't imagine moving Imax sized film (70mm) at 60fps"
Maybe you can't imagine it, but it's happened. They did it because the visual area was real big and they were trying to impress speed upon the audience.
Still don't believe me? 1.) Google for it, it's documented. 2.) They make 35mm cameras that can capture at 300 FPS. No, I didn't typo that. Three Hundred Frames Per Second. There isn't any particular reason why they could capture faster than they could display.
"I realise that they most likely did this becouse it would be damn hard to get any higher with that amount of data per frame, but still, if your someone who is designing a spec and aiming for a new super dooper standard, PLEASE UP THE FRAME RATE. 25 FPS SUCKS for fast action."
I think I read somewhere that some IMAX movies run at 60FPS, for that very reason. But I have to wonder if higher frame rates were available in films, would dramas use them? I mean, TV is capable of doing 60FPS. (50 in Europe) Yet they halve that for shows like M*A*S*H and X-Files. Whereas, shows like That 70's show do the full interlacing trick. The higher frame rate is nicer in some ways, but it has a way of dampening the drama of a shot. Example: I mentioned That 70's Show. It had a fair bit of light hearted drama in it. There was a recap show that went on about the previous season, I think it had to do with Eric and Donna breaking up. For the clips show, they lowered the frame rate. (No idea why, but they did.) That scene, which I remember as being rather light hearted when it originally aired, looked a lot more dramatic in the clip show due to the lower frame rate. It was more like watching important events in the past than watching something taking place right now.
My point? If shows are intentionally being made today with lower frame rates, then doesn't it stand to reason that the 24FPS standard will probably be used in movies like Star Wars? I'd like to say yes more definitively, but I really can't back that up with a director's quote or anything like that.
"Assuming it is only 24bit. 32bit would be 127megs. With a back buffer, front buffer, and z buffer it would be 380megs. With a 16bit per channel floating point back buffer it would be 506.25 megs for frame buffers!
With a 512meg video card you'd have 5megs left for your textures.
Give me 1080p and I'll be satisfied for now."
If you're watching something that high res, what do you need the textures etc for? Not really challenging your point here, just curious what you have on your mind here.
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"Course, I was with two junior girls at the time."
Could you elaborate, preferably with imagery?
Of course, I think the developers who left these vulnerabilities open should be financially responsible for the damage this may cause.
I think the developers who left these vulnerabilities open should be financially responsible for the damage this may cause.
"For the cost of fifty shows you can just get a Tivo."
Yeah, we don't need no steenking choices around here.
"MS isn't mentioned ONCE."
It's less striking when you read the article. Most people wouldn't use Windows to control a rocket.
"Did you mean thwarted? (Score:2, Informative)"
What? Do we have a bunch of Wheel of Fortune fans here or something?
"By the way, I've got a star to sell you. A nice one, in the Orion Belt."
Feedack: Do NOT purchase from this guy! He sent me a fucking cat!
"He's clearly a lunatic."
Ugh. Lately these stupid puns have been a cheap way for a funny mod. I can't wait until this phase is over.
" Had battle.net been the ONLY way to play, then it would be somewhat effetive."
Not necessarily. You had to work harder to get a game going.
" However, bnetd did not affect that, it only allowed to play games that themselves had the ability to connect to other services. hence I don't see any problem with that."
I do, since pirated keys were allowed on without any challenge.
"The problem of piracy in that case have nothing to do with bnetd but about the game being dead easy to pirateand play anyway."
That's a pretty flimsy rationalization, man. Software is always easy to pirate. Blizzard took an extra step and BNetD bypassed it.
"So? That has nothing to do with pirating the game since a pirated game does not correspond to a blacklisted key."
Step 1. Download ISo of Game
Step 2. Acquire pirated CD key so ISo will install
Step 3. Shout 'fuck' when Battle.net won't let you on
Step 4. use BNetD to get on instead.
"That seems to be were the problem for you lies, you assume that if Blizzard blacklist a key, one can't even copy, install or play the game at all. That is not the case."
Right, I understand this. I never disputed this. The catch is that you can't use Battle.net. The client built into your game that made it sooOOOoo easy to connect on-line against other people would not let you on. Your alternatives? Welp, they weren't GameSpy or MSN. You found yourself seeking alternatives then. In other words: use a pirated copy? Get annoyingly inconvience. You're talking technical, I'm talking practical.
" This clearly show that pirated games and blacklisting has nothing to do with each other"
No, you clearly showed that key wasn't blacklisted.
"To which you reply about blacklisting. I was talking about pirated games."
They blacklisted pirated keys.
"Blacklisting has nothing to do with pirating, copyright or protection circumvention."
They blacklisted pirated keys.
"So try to keep on suibject, don't reply about blacklisting when I comment a statement you make about pirating and the other way arround, they are not the same."
Heh. I have to ask: Are you even trying to understand where I'm coming frm here?
"My "defence" is only that it has not done anything ilegal from a circumvention point of view..."
For the record: I never said that, either. I never made a comment on the legality of BNetD's actions. My point was that I had no sympathy for them getting sued. I would have preferred it if they had won, actually. Still, I'm not about to join the "Boycott Blizzard!" pitchfork party when they acted completely as expected given BnetD's little misstep.
"The pirtaed key has nothing to do with it, it doesn't stop the game from working, it only stops access to battle.net. How hard is that to understand?"
... said the guy who's failing to understand an even simpler concept.
How hard is it to understand that this is a rather effective form of piracy prevention?
"Interesting how you don't even answer the question. I assume you don't have an answer then."
Already answered it. You complained about my repeating myself so I saved you that. Sooooorrrry.
"People with pirtaed games can do the same, they can also chose to play on either."
Except those that have blacklisted keys, they can't play on battle.net.
"You do know what bnetd is, right? It is a matchmaking service for different games. To even use it, you must have a game to start with, it doesn't help you create or copy games."
... and if you have a pirated copy of the game with a pirated key, you can still play it! Wee!
"It doesn't affect your ability to play the game or use the game at all?"
(unless you want to play on-line... sssshhh!!!)
"Again, if you don't understand these simple concepts, it is pointless discusssing with you."
"With bnetd, you can't access anything you would not be able to access anyway without it."
You could access on-line play that wouldn't be allowed on battle.net.
"Your claim that one can't pirtae the game without bnetd is false since I have just tried it and done it without bnetd."
You didn't use a blacklisted key. Very scientific. Hmm I wonder why lots of people banded together and made up a bunch of stories about this before BNetD came along? Strange what people will do on the internet these days.
"Bnetd doesn't affect the ability to pirate games at all..."
Yeah, it only allows blacklisted keys to be played so people don't actually have to run out to the store and purchase it.
"Circumventing a protection, means you manage to do what the protection tried to prevent."
Yeah, like blacklisting pirated keys so they can't play the most 'fun' area of the game.
"Yes you do, you claim that unless they do the same blacklisting as battle.net, they are in the wrong."
Nah, I didn't. But given your overzealous defense of BnetD, I can see why you see it that way. Part of me is considering letting you in more on what I think of the situation. But I have to be honest, besides the fun of watching you trip over your own feet in this debate, I honestly don't think you're going to spend any time at all trying to work this out with me in a civilized matter. In other words, anything I say that doesn't sound like "Oh you were right and I'm wrong, I'm such a twit!" is simply going to result in yet another long winded overstated undercooked argument.
On a more serious note, hope you had a good weekend.
"A lot of spelling errors get through on Slashdot, but this has got to be one of the worst. Jeez."
I wish I was so smart that a simple spelling error rendered it impossible for me to process the content of the article.
"My built in spell checker is going bezerk! ARRGH!!"
"What can an RSS/Atom reader do for me?"
At work I have a 'sidebar' installed that has a lot of interesting little odds and ends. It cycles through today's comics, etc. One of the features is that it downloads RSS feeds and puts the headlines up and cycles through them. For what I do for my job, my computer often ends up busy for a few seconds at a time, so I just glance over to the right and have a peek at what's going on in the world. Kinda nice having the info I want show up without my having to seek it. Personally, I think that's a great use of RSS.
Several years ago I wrote a sceensaver in Visual Basic that sort of did the same job. I gave it a list of websites to go to and it'd fire up the IE ActiveX control, load the page, make it full screen, and it would slowly scroll the length of the page. Then it'd move on to the next page, and so on. Fun little evening project. Kind of wish I had it now since I've got a computer sitting next to me that's idling most of the time.
"How about just not smoking?"
Insightful? Smoking's bad because it's addictive, mmmkay. If this is the sort of comment that's 'insightful', then I think I'm just going to watch Sesame Street instead.
"So? It still doesn't have anything to do with bnetd."
They bypassed the protection.
"bnetd doesn't circumvent anythiong so that you can go to battle.net if you are blacklisted for example,"
BNetD is letting you play the game with a pirated copy of the CD Key.
"No, since you can copy the game just as easilly or hard regardless of if there is or if you use bnetd."
With BNetD, ALL of those pirated keys can be used.
"Bceause of bnetd???? You had to go out and buy a new copy??? You turn stranger every day."
Heh. Dude, c'mon, I know you don't want to agree with my point on any level, but are you really going to sink to that level? My point was clear. Battle.net prevented pirated copies of the game from being played. If I had used BNetD, I could have used a pirated copy of the game. There, simple.
"Your argument is that bnetd doesn't do the same thing as Blizzard, hence it is bad."
Heh. I didn't make any arguments about what BNetD should have done.
"Since it is not a question, you cna't answer it. Apeparantly you still don't understand it though you seem to have read a bit about it."
Hehehehe.
"Still you have not clarified WHAT is being protected"
Hehe again. You don't have much credibility left to lose, man. I'm trying to be respectful here, but you're really making it difficult.
Blacklisting was being used to disable the ability to play pirated copies of Blizzard's games on Battle.net.
"Why are you babling about COPY protection when it doesn't affect copying at all?"
It affects copy protection quite nicely. I should know, it forced me to buy a new copy when I lost the number to my old one. None of the serials I could find would work. Battle.net barfed on them. The only real saving grace to it was by then it only cost $20 or so. Rather spiffy at preventing me from acquiring a pirated copy, though I was a legit customer. (grumble grumble.)
"Since you repeatedly seems to come back to "bnetd must do the same as Blzizard or it is copyprotection", then I ask, what is your point with those false statements?"
If you were actually understanding my point instead of trying every which way to dodge it, I wouldn't be repeating myself. BTW, it's really cute that later you whine about my putting words in your mouth. Heh. I have a feeling you've had an imaginary conversation with me that goes into great detail about what Blizzard should have done, what BNetD should have done, and general discussion about how I think competition should work. In that case, I hope you toss it, because I'm expending an awful amount of energy babbling about this excess garbage when my point was so simple.
"I have not commented on your person, so stop putting words in my mouth."
Directly? Maybe not. I'm quite confident, however, that you meant to.
Not a nice thing to say, nor was it a solid conclusion to draw. My motivations/biases/etc aren't terribly related to this debate unless you intend to 'win' by muddy'ing my character. Given your other attempts to do so, you'll pardon me for not apologizing.
"And you have shown you really have no clue about how Blizzard's cd-keys work and how battle.net work."
I thought I'd respond to this last because it's so amusing. Let's forget my personal experience with the matter, or the number of websites that have reported this, or that this came up in court, or my subscription to a delusion shared by lots and lots of people, and get to a really really interesting question: Why would Blizzard not blacklist pirated keys when it'd be so easy to do and be so effective?
Boy I can't wait to read your next overly long-winded rebuttal with more lines of dialog that I never delivered.
"I recall watching one of these races sometime in the 1940s. Even using relatively primitive technology, some the participants were able to build cars that were quite fast. Unfortunately, I also witnessed a rather gruesome accident."
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? I promise, I'm not setting up a joke or anything like that. But if you're 70/80 years old, I'm really curious what you think of how times have changed in the last few decades.
"They might run their servers on Windows, if their main website is any indication."
Scientific deduction or sensationalistic karma whoring? You be the judge.
"And I see no point in using their service only for non-sensitive needs, while returning to my existing solutions for private matters."
a.) Hard drives fail.
b.) Some of us actually use several different computers where the only common connection is the internet. Myself, I have a desktop, laptop that travels with me, and my workstation at work. I use GMail for sharing stuff between them. I wouldn't mind a better solution.
c.) Extra options is a good thing, not a bad thing.
"I don't think thousandss of people are going to be running into the streets after hearing Patrick Stewart and Leonary Nimoy, f'rinstance, declaring that aliens are among us..."
Um. I really don't expect that happening either way. Thousands of people probably would, however, listen because it's the TNG cast.
"In any event, that's uncompressed. With compression (which is quite inevitable) that'll drop anywhere from 10:1 to 100:1. In the extreme case, 210GB doesn't sound so bad. 5 years from now or so we'll have HDs that'll handle that fairly easily."
Troll......?
"Imax at 60fps?, hardly. Normal 35mm projectors move film at 24 fps, with a 2-bladed shutter exposing each frame twice, for an image refresh rate of 48fps. I can't imagine moving Imax sized film (70mm) at 60fps"
Maybe you can't imagine it, but it's happened. They did it because the visual area was real big and they were trying to impress speed upon the audience.
Still don't believe me? 1.) Google for it, it's documented. 2.) They make 35mm cameras that can capture at 300 FPS. No, I didn't typo that. Three Hundred Frames Per Second. There isn't any particular reason why they could capture faster than they could display.
"I realise that they most likely did this becouse it would be damn hard to get any higher with that amount of data per frame, but still, if your someone who is designing a spec and aiming for a new super dooper standard, PLEASE UP THE FRAME RATE. 25 FPS SUCKS for fast action."
I think I read somewhere that some IMAX movies run at 60FPS, for that very reason. But I have to wonder if higher frame rates were available in films, would dramas use them? I mean, TV is capable of doing 60FPS. (50 in Europe) Yet they halve that for shows like M*A*S*H and X-Files. Whereas, shows like That 70's show do the full interlacing trick. The higher frame rate is nicer in some ways, but it has a way of dampening the drama of a shot. Example: I mentioned That 70's Show. It had a fair bit of light hearted drama in it. There was a recap show that went on about the previous season, I think it had to do with Eric and Donna breaking up. For the clips show, they lowered the frame rate. (No idea why, but they did.) That scene, which I remember as being rather light hearted when it originally aired, looked a lot more dramatic in the clip show due to the lower frame rate. It was more like watching important events in the past than watching something taking place right now.
My point? If shows are intentionally being made today with lower frame rates, then doesn't it stand to reason that the 24FPS standard will probably be used in movies like Star Wars? I'd like to say yes more definitively, but I really can't back that up with a director's quote or anything like that.
"Assuming it is only 24bit. 32bit would be 127megs. With a back buffer, front buffer, and z buffer it would be 380megs. With a 16bit per channel floating point back buffer it would be 506.25 megs for frame buffers!
With a 512meg video card you'd have 5megs left for your textures.
Give me 1080p and I'll be satisfied for now."
If you're watching something that high res, what do you need the textures etc for? Not really challenging your point here, just curious what you have on your mind here.
" I don't need to be able to count the creases in some guy's hairy anus :-)"
Ok... I think now I'm going to start a petition to get an edit button into Slashdot.
"And yet, there will still only be 3-4 programs on TV/cable/satellite actually worth watching -- no matter what the resolution is!"
I agree! The popularity of Bittorrent, seasons of TV shows on DVD, and TiVo around here is so peculiar!!