" On the other hand, they could decide to follow Sony's lead and switch to an optical disk format..."
I hope not. The optical disc will not automatically yield better games. It will, however, create a more delicate, more expensive, and more battery hungry system that is not likely to fit in anybody's pocket.
I don't think the PSP will do well. I'd like to be wrong, afterall it would mean competition for Nintendo, and that'd be good for all of us. However, there have been plenty of attempts to make a portable system that can do what a console does. They all failed. I don't feel that Sony can make this work. I'm having a seriously difficult time imagining that this device will be as small as an original Game Boy. If I found out that information's wrong, then I'll reevaluate my opinion.
Hehe no problem. If he does that, then we'll just claim he doesn't read anything we're saying and claim that's proof that he's an idiot.
The only downside is that if we start acting like him, we'll start sounding like idiots. But I'm willing to pay that price if he keeps overheating like he is.;)
I got an idea, let's tell him to research enlightement, not just look up the definition of it. Then we can tell him to shut the fuck up and declare ourselves enlightened!
" is supposed to show how mentally adept you are."
Not quite. It shows how mentally limited you are. I'm not laughing because I feel superior, I'm entertained because you just keep trying and trying and trying.
" to even TRY to accept an enlightened view"
Spare me the "I'm enlightened" BS. You don't act like one who is enlightened. (I'll give you a hint, acting calling people idiots isn't the act of somebody acting on a higher level of reasoning.)
"YOU ARE AN IDIOT."
*shrug* This might bother me if I thought you were aware of what's going on.
"Know this, understand this, AND READ MY FUCKING EXPLANATIONS ALREADY."
I read them, and rejected them. Not only are they devoid of information, but you've made 0 attempt to make any real statement or defense. On top of that, you haven't put any consideration about how your own words have affected my responses in this thread. You're awfully narrow minded for an 'enlightened' individual.
"If you want to insult me, READ WHAT I WRITE."
You write all the time, but ya don't actually say anything. I don't know why you're getting upset, afterall you're the one who's not carrying his own end of the discussion.
"BUT YOU HAVENT TOUCHED ANY OF IT"
Hello Mr. Pot, my name is Kettle. You, sir, are black.
" I place it there so that I know if the insults I get are from FUCKING IDIOTS or from people who actually bother to maybe take five seconds of time out of their day and READ what they are replying to, instead of typing based on false assumptions made before the conversation began."
Bzzt. Wrong. You're claiming to have put stuff there so you can try to claim that you are in control of this discussion. The only real evidence of idiocy in this thread stems from your own inability to make your case. Your claims that the 'evidence is there' are your own attempt at trying to make me second guess myself. This is supported by your sudden "I'm enlightened!" tripe to further induce uncertainty on my part.
As for false assumptions, dare I remind you that you started this whole thread? You felt the need to be shitheaded and attack my friend AnonV.
You want me to read what you say? Then try making a point. Make an actual point. You're not making a point when you say "look there".
Honestly dude, you should take a debate course or something. Also, you really should chill. Your anger is making you act with greater stupidity.
Liar. If you were trying to 'enlighten' me you'd explain instead of point. You'd also be open to knowing where you messed up. Either you are trying to bully or trying to troll, not sure which. Doesn't matter either way because you're not doing either, you're entertaining.;)
"Yes thats the really sad thing. MS most likely could of won the desktop (and office suite) wars without any dirty tricks as they do understand what users want."
According to the judgement, they did. They acquired their monopoly legitimately (I'm paraphrasing here), what they did wrong was they maintained it afterwards by doing the anti-competitive stuff.
Frankly, I don't think the truth is as clear cut as that. It is arguable, though, that the vast majority of what got them to monpoly status was from consumer demand.
"completely ignoring the repeated explanations of there being no lack of understanding."
Funny, there is evidence of you not understanding, afterall that's what you called me an idiot about.
"Do you have any excuse for this?"
Yeah, you can't lie your way out of that. Your entire basis for calling me an idiot is null. Yet, you keep doing it anyway. That's why I keep laughing whenever you reply, you just don't see the hole you dug yourself into.
I'm quite entertained by this. It reminds me of Yosemite Sam vs. Bugs Bunny. I'll let you take a guess as to which one you are.;)
.. I would *strongly* recommend that the Slashdot Community who's been all over this 'Linux on the XBOX' bs start doing something interesting with it, and I mean fast. It would look plenty embarrasing for MS if they went after them for releasing the exploit and then people started making good (and legitimate) use of it. If everybody just wants to play MAME on it with questionably legal ROMs, that won't help Free-X.
Might I suggest a DivX based media server that can rip DVDs? I know that seems to fly in the face of what I just said about MAME, however, its a good use for the XBOX, plus you'd only be ripping DVDs you own and with good reason. "I just wanted to have easy access to my library." Another suggestion would be to set up an XBOX as a TV based info center. It stays on-line all the time on Input 2 (or whatever channel your XBOX is on), when a commercial pops up, flip the channels and get your messages. Heck, set up a browser so that it cycles through your favorite news sites every 30 seconds and scrolls them or something.
At least with something like that, something that the XBOX is better at than a cheap-o PC, the case can be made for wanting to make these mods to the unit. That'll weaken MS's case (they'll probably try to say that copy protection is bypassed or something), plus it'll take a few pokes at the DMCA as well.
I hope are people listening. MS has got an army of lawyers.
"is for them not to be corrected when they make mistakes. Best to let them keep making mistakes until the mistakes become habits. Certainly, they shouldn't, as the original poster suggests, take grammar lessons. That would be crazy. "
" Claims of specific errors and claims of a general state of existence are not the same thing, you'll have to do better than that. "
Your claim of my 'general state' was born from your own lack of understanding of something I said. Your attempt to attack my character was based on your own idiocy. I don't need to do any better than that because it's so fucking funny!
" And thus we have companies exploiting it with inflated prices and we get bombarded with constant advertisements on TV, billboards, etc."
Supply and demand. If the prices are 'inflated' it's because the customers decided that it wasn't too much to pay. Prices would go down if interest in bottled water disappeared. One could hardly call that 'exploitation'. It may cost them pennies to produce a bottle of water, but $1.20 for a liter of clean fresh water is cheap.
" Considering the average laptop costs twice as much as the average desktop, you've still got roughly a 2-1 ratio of desktop units sold over laptops. "
Perhaps. However, laptops have overcome many of the hurdles that used to hold them back. LCDs are good enough that they update quickly with good color. They come with 3D cards now, allowing for game play plus 3D art generation. They have large hard drives and can come with generous amounts of RAM. Plus, they all come together in one neat little package that requires no hookup, plus it can be folded up and go places.
Yes, laptops cost more, but people want more out of their computers. So today the 2-1 ratio will probably hold out, there is no guarantee it'll always be like that. I don't think it'll be too long before everybody is choosing laptops over desktops. Sooner or later, portability is more interesting than a few hundred megahertz.
"Two words: digital photography. An LCD simply can't match the true color representation a good CRT can give, which is essential if you're going to do any serious photo work on a PC. "
I do 'serious' photo and texture work on my laptop. It reproduces color quite well.
An LCD can do it. However, it would only be fair to remind you that I paid extra to get a really good display. If you buy a crap LCD (or a crap CRT) the color's going to suck.
I'm not attacking the details so much as I'm attacking the generalization.
"Find me a single artist who uses a flat panel display."
Me.
"Find me an LCD for under $150."
Us artists don't shop the bargain bins for our equipment. We may be 'starving' but we happily go into debt to avoid using inferior tools, especially when they affect the output.
"Why anyone would ever bother with a CRT again is beyond me"
LCD's don't beat CRTs at every aspect. I use my laptop for webbrowsing and my CRT for gaming. The CRT udpates faster, can be viewed at any angle, and it natively supports a variety of resolutions. (running a 640 by 480 game on a 1600 by 1200 LCD sucks.)
The LCD on my laptop has better color, much clearer image, and I can get closer to it. I've chosen it to do my web surfing and for creating artwork.
There are plenty of reasons to swing either way. Personally, I think OLED is going to kill CRTs for good.
I remember reading a couple of years ago that Final Fantsy was working on a massively multiplayer game sorta like Everquest. One of the features they bragged about was translating people's chats in real time so the whole world could play.
I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft read this in a magazine, built a demo, and patented it.
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" On the other hand, they could decide to follow Sony's lead and switch to an optical disk format..."
I hope not. The optical disc will not automatically yield better games. It will, however, create a more delicate, more expensive, and more battery hungry system that is not likely to fit in anybody's pocket.
I don't think the PSP will do well. I'd like to be wrong, afterall it would mean competition for Nintendo, and that'd be good for all of us. However, there have been plenty of attempts to make a portable system that can do what a console does. They all failed. I don't feel that Sony can make this work. I'm having a seriously difficult time imagining that this device will be as small as an original Game Boy. If I found out that information's wrong, then I'll reevaluate my opinion.
Hehe no problem. If he does that, then we'll just claim he doesn't read anything we're saying and claim that's proof that he's an idiot.
;)
The only downside is that if we start acting like him, we'll start sounding like idiots. But I'm willing to pay that price if he keeps overheating like he is.
I got an idea, let's tell him to research enlightement, not just look up the definition of it. Then we can tell him to shut the fuck up and declare ourselves enlightened!
" is supposed to show how mentally adept you are."
Not quite. It shows how mentally limited you are. I'm not laughing because I feel superior, I'm entertained because you just keep trying and trying and trying.
" to even TRY to accept an enlightened view"
Spare me the "I'm enlightened" BS. You don't act like one who is enlightened. (I'll give you a hint, acting calling people idiots isn't the act of somebody acting on a higher level of reasoning.)
"YOU ARE AN IDIOT."
*shrug* This might bother me if I thought you were aware of what's going on.
"Know this, understand this, AND READ MY FUCKING EXPLANATIONS ALREADY."
I read them, and rejected them. Not only are they devoid of information, but you've made 0 attempt to make any real statement or defense. On top of that, you haven't put any consideration about how your own words have affected my responses in this thread. You're awfully narrow minded for an 'enlightened' individual.
"If you want to insult me, READ WHAT I WRITE."
You write all the time, but ya don't actually say anything. I don't know why you're getting upset, afterall you're the one who's not carrying his own end of the discussion.
"BUT YOU HAVENT TOUCHED ANY OF IT"
Hello Mr. Pot, my name is Kettle. You, sir, are black.
" I place it there so that I know if the insults I get are from FUCKING IDIOTS or from people who actually bother to maybe take five seconds of time out of their day and READ what they are replying to, instead of typing based on false assumptions made before the conversation began."
Bzzt. Wrong. You're claiming to have put stuff there so you can try to claim that you are in control of this discussion. The only real evidence of idiocy in this thread stems from your own inability to make your case. Your claims that the 'evidence is there' are your own attempt at trying to make me second guess myself. This is supported by your sudden "I'm enlightened!" tripe to further induce uncertainty on my part.
As for false assumptions, dare I remind you that you started this whole thread? You felt the need to be shitheaded and attack my friend AnonV.
You want me to read what you say? Then try making a point. Make an actual point. You're not making a point when you say "look there".
Honestly dude, you should take a debate course or something. Also, you really should chill. Your anger is making you act with greater stupidity.
"But they're giving it for free anyway!" how the fuck is that remotely relevant?"
It's called 'publishing'.
" do you know that they are publishing on a "public" network? How fucking infeasable would to be to send only to IP addresses which they wanted to?"
Yeah, they wouldn't want to password-protect their files or anything.
I can see that you're no more 'enlightening' here than you are in our thread about your inability to see your own idiocy.
"As far as dirty tricks go they have not ended."
;)
I'm not surprised.
Just to be clear, I'm not defending Microsoft per se. Just making sure some of the details aren't forgotten.
"I am trying to enlighten you."
;)
Liar. If you were trying to 'enlighten' me you'd explain instead of point. You'd also be open to knowing where you messed up. Either you are trying to bully or trying to troll, not sure which. Doesn't matter either way because you're not doing either, you're entertaining.
"Yes thats the really sad thing. MS most likely could of won the desktop (and office suite) wars without any dirty tricks as they do understand what users want."
According to the judgement, they did. They acquired their monopoly legitimately (I'm paraphrasing here), what they did wrong was they maintained it afterwards by doing the anti-competitive stuff.
Frankly, I don't think the truth is as clear cut as that. It is arguable, though, that the vast majority of what got them to monpoly status was from consumer demand.
"No one held a gun to Microsofts head and said sell the x-box below cost."
THe competition did.
"it starts with wanting to own the entire computer industry and crushing every competitor to dust through unfair competition and sleazy tricks. "
And, as a fallback plan, they make products people want.
"completely ignoring the repeated explanations of there being no lack of understanding."
;)
Funny, there is evidence of you not understanding, afterall that's what you called me an idiot about.
"Do you have any excuse for this?"
Yeah, you can't lie your way out of that. Your entire basis for calling me an idiot is null. Yet, you keep doing it anyway. That's why I keep laughing whenever you reply, you just don't see the hole you dug yourself into.
I'm quite entertained by this. It reminds me of Yosemite Sam vs. Bugs Bunny. I'll let you take a guess as to which one you are.
"You want a specific example, there it is."
mmm?
.. I would *strongly* recommend that the Slashdot Community who's been all over this 'Linux on the XBOX' bs start doing something interesting with it, and I mean fast. It would look plenty embarrasing for MS if they went after them for releasing the exploit and then people started making good (and legitimate) use of it. If everybody just wants to play MAME on it with questionably legal ROMs, that won't help Free-X.
Might I suggest a DivX based media server that can rip DVDs? I know that seems to fly in the face of what I just said about MAME, however, its a good use for the XBOX, plus you'd only be ripping DVDs you own and with good reason. "I just wanted to have easy access to my library." Another suggestion would be to set up an XBOX as a TV based info center. It stays on-line all the time on Input 2 (or whatever channel your XBOX is on), when a commercial pops up, flip the channels and get your messages. Heck, set up a browser so that it cycles through your favorite news sites every 30 seconds and scrolls them or something.
At least with something like that, something that the XBOX is better at than a cheap-o PC, the case can be made for wanting to make these mods to the unit. That'll weaken MS's case (they'll probably try to say that copy protection is bypassed or something), plus it'll take a few pokes at the DMCA as well.
I hope are people listening. MS has got an army of lawyers.
"Today is a very said day for Microsoft."
Is it? Now MS has an entity to go after, plus evidence of attempted blackmail. Kudos. Way to set the mod community back.
"is for them not to be corrected when they make mistakes. Best to let them keep making mistakes until the mistakes become habits. Certainly, they shouldn't, as the original poster suggests, take grammar lessons. That would be crazy. "
Rationalization Error:
Insulting != Correcting.
" Claims of specific errors and claims of a general state of existence are not the same thing, you'll have to do better than that. "
Your claim of my 'general state' was born from your own lack of understanding of something I said. Your attempt to attack my character was based on your own idiocy. I don't need to do any better than that because it's so fucking funny!
"I vote we get this poster some grammar lessons:"
I vote that you worry about what he was said instead of how he phrased it.
" And thus we have companies exploiting it with inflated prices and we get bombarded with constant advertisements on TV, billboards, etc."
Supply and demand. If the prices are 'inflated' it's because the customers decided that it wasn't too much to pay. Prices would go down if interest in bottled water disappeared. One could hardly call that 'exploitation'. It may cost them pennies to produce a bottle of water, but $1.20 for a liter of clean fresh water is cheap.
"It doesn't sound like that much of a setback. It was unmanned, crashed in a field because only one of three parachutes opened."
Japanese scientists are insisting that no wing damage occured when Godzilla took a swipe at it.
" ink for home printers is now seven times more expensive than vintage champagne."
It's also 4x more intoxicating!
" Considering the average laptop costs twice as much as the average desktop, you've still got roughly a 2-1 ratio of desktop units sold over laptops. "
Perhaps. However, laptops have overcome many of the hurdles that used to hold them back. LCDs are good enough that they update quickly with good color. They come with 3D cards now, allowing for game play plus 3D art generation. They have large hard drives and can come with generous amounts of RAM. Plus, they all come together in one neat little package that requires no hookup, plus it can be folded up and go places.
Yes, laptops cost more, but people want more out of their computers. So today the 2-1 ratio will probably hold out, there is no guarantee it'll always be like that. I don't think it'll be too long before everybody is choosing laptops over desktops. Sooner or later, portability is more interesting than a few hundred megahertz.
"Two words: digital photography. An LCD simply can't match the true color representation a good CRT can give, which is essential if you're going to do any serious photo work on a PC. "
I do 'serious' photo and texture work on my laptop. It reproduces color quite well.
An LCD can do it. However, it would only be fair to remind you that I paid extra to get a really good display. If you buy a crap LCD (or a crap CRT) the color's going to suck.
I'm not attacking the details so much as I'm attacking the generalization.
"Find me a single artist who uses a flat panel display."
Me.
"Find me an LCD for under $150."
Us artists don't shop the bargain bins for our equipment. We may be 'starving' but we happily go into debt to avoid using inferior tools, especially when they affect the output.
"Why anyone would ever bother with a CRT again is beyond me"
LCD's don't beat CRTs at every aspect. I use my laptop for webbrowsing and my CRT for gaming. The CRT udpates faster, can be viewed at any angle, and it natively supports a variety of resolutions. (running a 640 by 480 game on a 1600 by 1200 LCD sucks.)
The LCD on my laptop has better color, much clearer image, and I can get closer to it. I've chosen it to do my web surfing and for creating artwork.
There are plenty of reasons to swing either way. Personally, I think OLED is going to kill CRTs for good.
I remember reading a couple of years ago that Final Fantsy was working on a massively multiplayer game sorta like Everquest. One of the features they bragged about was translating people's chats in real time so the whole world could play.
I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft read this in a magazine, built a demo, and patented it.