"Couldn't you send Capcom a proof of purchase for buying these games on the NES, and get the PSP game in the mail for free?"
a.) These aren't the NES versions of the game, they're the arcade version. b.) Either way, how many people actually hadl all 20 of these games? c.) There's a significant number of people who haven't played these games before that may have fun buying them today. I agree that ROMs will always be around, but there's little to be bitchy about here.
"I suppose you think Bill Gates invented the personal computer industry and Linus Torvalds stole all the code in Linux from SCO as well."
Actually, I screwed up my comment after rewriting it several times. The 'taking credit for his work' bit was in reference to the 'riding on the coattails of newton'... and, well, I didn't polish it like I should have.
Sorry. You're right, dumb comment on my part. That's not to say I think Apple is totally innocent in the matter, but I think I basically discredited myself too much to make a strong point about that. Oh well.
My girlfriend had a song she wanted for a ring tone. First we needed to make an MP3 short 'ring' version of it, then we had to upload it to her site, then we had to patiently type in the exact address of the MP3 to download and install. It was a total pain in the ass compared to "click browse button, select song, click OK". Frankly, if they had that song, I would have preferred paying the fee compared to what we went through to get it on there. Oh, and this phone doesn't have bluetooth.
Frankly, I don't see what all the fuss is about. I don't mind people saying "naah, not interested", but some of the comments to the tune of this being theft and other not-so-nice terms are ridiculous. If it's worth $2.50 for somebody to do it, let them do it. I'll concede on one point, though: I think it's shitty that they seem to make the phones insist on using their pay services for this. I've read, though I cannot say it's necessarily true, that some phones with some carriers disable the ability the use bluetooth to put your own MP3s as ring tones. Shiiiiiiiitty.
As for the appeal of ring tones: Besides the fact that ppl like customizing stuff, it's also a pleasant way of knowing whose phone is ringing. My GF and I have identical phones. Yeah, we could play with different ring tones, etc. But the MP3s are so much more distinct. It's nice to know which of us is getting up. Also, niether of us has the volume up all the way. Actually, both our phones ring quietly. But, again, since it's so distinct, it works out well.
"what about that thief Einstein, just riding Newton's coat-tails with his theories about gravity. Someone really needs to set the record straight, that Einstein guy is just a fraud."
Yeah, that was awful of him to meet with Newton and take credit for a bunch of his work.
"I see a lot of comments like this, lately, but do you think that PS3 and the Revolution aren't going to get a lot of articles as well?"
Probably not. But that's not because I think Slashdot's giving MS advertising fellatio, but rather because the XBOX 360 is the first one out by a long shot. It's the first 'next generation' system. So what all will it deliver so we can expect the PS3 and the Rev to do it, too? (hence why I expect some die-down on next-gen hype.)
The last two times around, Sony slurped up all the hype. "We can render Toy Story in real time!""They won't let us ship the PS2's overseas because it's a supercomputer that can be used by terrorists!" Heh. Microsoft got there first, they win the hype trophy. I know the stories are obnoxious, but this really isn't something Microsoft has some patent on. So long as we live in a black & white world of winners and losers, there'll always be those using strange rationale to predict the future.
If it's being judged by how the audience appreciates it, sure, I totally agree. If they judge it without any particular regard to what the audience thought, then whether or not it's out and ready to be consumed is really immaterial.
"The term "wireless" is usually related to 802.11, wifi, or "wireless networking", not the ability to make cell phone calls. But I guess that's incorrect, and we can now state that most of the planet is already "outfitted with wireless".
Wireless was used to describe cell phones long before 802.11. If Slashdot had written the article for slashdotters to read, then I probably wouldn't have bothered replying.
"The reason metered doesn't work so well in the game industry is that developers and publishers need more stable revenue. It's easier to calculate how many people were playing last month, this month and how many will play next month."
I think you're on the right track but you may be looking out the wrong window. I think the main reason they chose that model was so that they don't scare their customers. Ask anybody with a cell phone how shocking their first bill was.;)
"I'm all for a rewards show, but I really would like for them to concentrate more on games that have been released already (like they did with Resident Evil 4)."
If the reviewers have played a final build of the game, what's the BFD?
To be fair: the XBOX-360 is playable today and will be in stores within a few days. Nintendo and Sony have not had a lot of news to cover lately. Maybe it's an ad for MS, maybe it's just the exciting gaming news for now.
"I wonder why they didn't use MPEG-4. H.264 (AVC) is expected to be the standard encoding for next-gen formats, so maybe they did MPEG-2 because this is only a test disc, but still. MPEG-4 saves so much space, you could put an HD movie on a DVD of today if you wanted to."
I wonder if MPEG-2 is friendlier for TV output than MPEG-4... eh I dunno. As for your question I think that they're not just making a movie format here, they're also making a data disc. The PS3, for example, will benefit from having 50 or so gigs to play with for the games. So with this much data, they probably feel that movies should fill the disc. It's also possible that that MPEG-2 decoding hardware is cheaper than MPEG-4, so players would end up being a little cheaper. (Although that point seems moot compared to the cost of the new drives...) Heck, maybe they chose MPEG-2 because of the availability of authoring software for it.
Okay, I don't have the strongest reasoning in the world. I agree, I don't know why they aren't using MPEG-4 at this point. Most DVDs today come with 2 discs. If they used MPEG-4 instead of MPEG-2, they could easily ship all the content on 1 disc and save some buckage. Whatever happens with the next-gen disc format, I hope they keep this in mind. I'd rather have 1 disc than 2.
"Entertainment is to be done at my leisure. I choose the terms, not you."
I wish they'd just cram a few commercials into movies and release them out in the wild. There are some movies out there that I just won't spend the $4 to rent them, but I'd tolerate the commercials.
I'd use it, at the very least, as an evaluation tool. Despite all of the dark mumblings about Vista around here, I'm really curious about it. I think the graphical stuff will be neat, just not sure how practically 'better' it'll end up being. I'm curious enough that if MS said "ok, here's an ad supported version. Pay us and we'll remove the ads." That'd suit me.
"Though I don't know how many parents will actually bother to read the Manuel and discover about this feature , or how quickly the child will find a way to reset the defaults."
I'm more worried about fuss over whether or not the games were rated properly. Part of me wants to be optimistic that this sort of control does take a lot of the headache out of the equation, the other part says ppl will expect 'safety' that cannot be realistically attain so they'll bitch bitch bitch and sue.
I hate being torn on this issue. On the one hand, I think that parents could use a little more help in working out what content the games, on the other hand I don't want to do that at the cost of vigilance. The latter issue I wouldn't mind so much, but NOBODY is willing to admit they didn't do something right with their kid. Man is that a taboo.
"/That was offtopic, but reading about BSOD's got my creative juices flowing."
You creatively changed the color of the screen, creatively quoted the chair throwing comment that we've heard a jillion times, and you even went as far as to creatively phrase it as an 'in other news' style post. Yeah, your well of creativity is just bubbling today.
"Agreed. Grandparent reads like an astroturfing MS shill, to me."
That's lovely. Microsoft makes a product that impresses him and he's an MS shill. Sounds like an OSS shill to me. Don't accusations like that make me sound really level headed?
"... it just failed because the world is too stupid to appreciate Apple's mastery of all things electronic."
What do you do when somebody says something that's mind bogglingly ignorant, but you're not sure if they're being sarcastic or not?
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" If Microsoft had engineered an operating system with the maximum security that allowed for performance and basically stayed out of the users way, this wouldn't be a problem."
Is that all? Well gee golly gosh, making an OS sounds almost as easy as making a web browser!
"but I have yet to meet anyone who actually wants one and uses it on a regular basis, and I work with a bunch of other technophile engineers... Laptops still rule the portable landscape."
The amusing thing about that is that most tablets are laptops. Mine is. You would't know at first glance that it's a tablet. I'm surprised more sysadmins/IT types aren't into tablets. You can actually use these things while standing up. Heck, just using one on the couch is a lot better than a plain ol' laptop.
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"Couldn't you send Capcom a proof of purchase for buying these games on the NES, and get the PSP game in the mail for free?"
a.) These aren't the NES versions of the game, they're the arcade version.
b.) Either way, how many people actually hadl all 20 of these games?
c.) There's a significant number of people who haven't played these games before that may have fun buying them today. I agree that ROMs will always be around, but there's little to be bitchy about here.
"I suppose you think Bill Gates invented the personal computer industry and Linus Torvalds stole all the code in Linux from SCO as well."
Actually, I screwed up my comment after rewriting it several times. The 'taking credit for his work' bit was in reference to the 'riding on the coattails of newton'... and, well, I didn't polish it like I should have.
Sorry. You're right, dumb comment on my part. That's not to say I think Apple is totally innocent in the matter, but I think I basically discredited myself too much to make a strong point about that. Oh well.
My girlfriend had a song she wanted for a ring tone. First we needed to make an MP3 short 'ring' version of it, then we had to upload it to her site, then we had to patiently type in the exact address of the MP3 to download and install. It was a total pain in the ass compared to "click browse button, select song, click OK". Frankly, if they had that song, I would have preferred paying the fee compared to what we went through to get it on there. Oh, and this phone doesn't have bluetooth.
Frankly, I don't see what all the fuss is about. I don't mind people saying "naah, not interested", but some of the comments to the tune of this being theft and other not-so-nice terms are ridiculous. If it's worth $2.50 for somebody to do it, let them do it. I'll concede on one point, though: I think it's shitty that they seem to make the phones insist on using their pay services for this. I've read, though I cannot say it's necessarily true, that some phones with some carriers disable the ability the use bluetooth to put your own MP3s as ring tones. Shiiiiiiiitty.
As for the appeal of ring tones: Besides the fact that ppl like customizing stuff, it's also a pleasant way of knowing whose phone is ringing. My GF and I have identical phones. Yeah, we could play with different ring tones, etc. But the MP3s are so much more distinct. It's nice to know which of us is getting up. Also, niether of us has the volume up all the way. Actually, both our phones ring quietly. But, again, since it's so distinct, it works out well.
"what about that thief Einstein, just riding Newton's coat-tails with his theories about gravity. Someone really needs to set the record straight, that Einstein guy is just a fraud."
Yeah, that was awful of him to meet with Newton and take credit for a bunch of his work.
"Maybe you live in a "black & white world of winners and losers", but I don't. You don't have to, either. It just starts with yourself."
Either you misunderstood my post or you're Mr. Dvorak.
"I see a lot of comments like this, lately, but do you think that PS3 and the Revolution aren't going to get a lot of articles as well?"
Probably not. But that's not because I think Slashdot's giving MS advertising fellatio, but rather because the XBOX 360 is the first one out by a long shot. It's the first 'next generation' system. So what all will it deliver so we can expect the PS3 and the Rev to do it, too? (hence why I expect some die-down on next-gen hype.)
The last two times around, Sony slurped up all the hype. "We can render Toy Story in real time!" "They won't let us ship the PS2's overseas because it's a supercomputer that can be used by terrorists!" Heh. Microsoft got there first, they win the hype trophy. I know the stories are obnoxious, but this really isn't something Microsoft has some patent on. So long as we live in a black & white world of winners and losers, there'll always be those using strange rationale to predict the future.
"I am going into hiding so that One may avoid the barrage of silly stories and Marketing shite ."
I'm just glad it's anybody but Sony this time around. I'm tired of having 'supercomputer' redefined for me.
If it's being judged by how the audience appreciates it, sure, I totally agree. If they judge it without any particular regard to what the audience thought, then whether or not it's out and ready to be consumed is really immaterial.
"The term "wireless" is usually related to 802.11, wifi, or "wireless networking", not the ability to make cell phone calls. But I guess that's incorrect, and we can now state that most of the planet is already "outfitted with wireless".
Wireless was used to describe cell phones long before 802.11. If Slashdot had written the article for slashdotters to read, then I probably wouldn't have bothered replying.
"The reason metered doesn't work so well in the game industry is that developers and publishers need more stable revenue. It's easier to calculate how many people were playing last month, this month and how many will play next month."
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I think you're on the right track but you may be looking out the wrong window. I think the main reason they chose that model was so that they don't scare their customers. Ask anybody with a cell phone how shocking their first bill was.
"I'm all for a rewards show, but I really would like for them to concentrate more on games that have been released already (like they did with Resident Evil 4)."
If the reviewers have played a final build of the game, what's the BFD?
To be fair: the XBOX-360 is playable today and will be in stores within a few days. Nintendo and Sony have not had a lot of news to cover lately. Maybe it's an ad for MS, maybe it's just the exciting gaming news for now.
"I wonder why they didn't use MPEG-4. H.264 (AVC) is expected to be the standard encoding for next-gen formats, so maybe they did MPEG-2 because this is only a test disc, but still. MPEG-4 saves so much space, you could put an HD movie on a DVD of today if you wanted to."
I wonder if MPEG-2 is friendlier for TV output than MPEG-4... eh I dunno. As for your question I think that they're not just making a movie format here, they're also making a data disc. The PS3, for example, will benefit from having 50 or so gigs to play with for the games. So with this much data, they probably feel that movies should fill the disc. It's also possible that that MPEG-2 decoding hardware is cheaper than MPEG-4, so players would end up being a little cheaper. (Although that point seems moot compared to the cost of the new drives...) Heck, maybe they chose MPEG-2 because of the availability of authoring software for it.
Okay, I don't have the strongest reasoning in the world. I agree, I don't know why they aren't using MPEG-4 at this point. Most DVDs today come with 2 discs. If they used MPEG-4 instead of MPEG-2, they could easily ship all the content on 1 disc and save some buckage. Whatever happens with the next-gen disc format, I hope they keep this in mind. I'd rather have 1 disc than 2.
"Entertainment is to be done at my leisure. I choose the terms, not you."
I wish they'd just cram a few commercials into movies and release them out in the wild. There are some movies out there that I just won't spend the $4 to rent them, but I'd tolerate the commercials.
I'd use it, at the very least, as an evaluation tool. Despite all of the dark mumblings about Vista around here, I'm really curious about it. I think the graphical stuff will be neat, just not sure how practically 'better' it'll end up being. I'm curious enough that if MS said "ok, here's an ad supported version. Pay us and we'll remove the ads." That'd suit me.
"Though I don't know how many parents will actually bother to read the Manuel and discover about this feature , or how quickly the child will find a way to reset the defaults ."
I'm more worried about fuss over whether or not the games were rated properly. Part of me wants to be optimistic that this sort of control does take a lot of the headache out of the equation, the other part says ppl will expect 'safety' that cannot be realistically attain so they'll bitch bitch bitch and sue.
I hate being torn on this issue. On the one hand, I think that parents could use a little more help in working out what content the games, on the other hand I don't want to do that at the cost of vigilance. The latter issue I wouldn't mind so much, but NOBODY is willing to admit they didn't do something right with their kid. Man is that a taboo.
"A little late. The Xbox has had this feature in it from the start."
A little late for what? Dinner date?
"/That was offtopic, but reading about BSOD's got my creative juices flowing."
You creatively changed the color of the screen, creatively quoted the chair throwing comment that we've heard a jillion times, and you even went as far as to creatively phrase it as an 'in other news' style post. Yeah, your well of creativity is just bubbling today.
"Agreed. Grandparent reads like an astroturfing MS shill, to me."
That's lovely. Microsoft makes a product that impresses him and he's an MS shill. Sounds like an OSS shill to me. Don't accusations like that make me sound really level headed?
"... it just failed because the world is too stupid to appreciate Apple's mastery of all things electronic."
What do you do when somebody says something that's mind bogglingly ignorant, but you're not sure if they're being sarcastic or not?
" If Microsoft had engineered an operating system with the maximum security that allowed for performance and basically stayed out of the users way, this wouldn't be a problem."
Is that all? Well gee golly gosh, making an OS sounds almost as easy as making a web browser!
"Tell that to my copy of Feel the Magic for DS. Original and loads of fun."
So? I'm a Slashdotter that isn't a virgin. Exceptions happen.
"Does anyone else see what I see? All but one of these is a sequel! Where, O where, have the original fun-to-play games gone? :("
Um, this is a system launch. You picked the wrong time to expect originality or high quality games, and that goes for any system.
"What would porn choose?"
The internet. This isn't one of those scenarios where porn is going to make a hero out of either format.
"but I have yet to meet anyone who actually wants one and uses it on a regular basis, and I work with a bunch of other technophile engineers... Laptops still rule the portable landscape."
The amusing thing about that is that most tablets are laptops. Mine is. You would't know at first glance that it's a tablet. I'm surprised more sysadmins/IT types aren't into tablets. You can actually use these things while standing up. Heck, just using one on the couch is a lot better than a plain ol' laptop.
Oh well, tough sales job I guess.