Its target market doesn't care that the screen is integrated any more than they care that the hard drive is integrated or the Superdrive (DVD burner) is integrated.
I beleive the hard drive and optical drives are integrated in all computers; I've not yet seen one where the primary drives are all external. Perhaps you're implying that they are proprietary and can't be upgraded, in which case you are also wrong.
Apple has posted the take-apart instructions for the new iMac; the story is on Macslash right now. It's no harder to replace than the LCD in a notebook, as long as you can find a compatible part (it's a standard, mass-manufactured LCD, and/.ers are supposed to be the masters of hardware hacking, I don't understand why they bitch about the Mac's architecture; there's nothing proprietary about anything except the motherboard)
Compare to iMac, eh? Sounds fair, I'll compare it to the $799 iMac. The computers are very similar in some ways: both have a 20GB HDD, 128 MB RAM, 24X CD-ROM, 100Base-T, 56K modem, and 2 USB ports. The AIO benefits from a 17" display and a TV tuner (which is mostly useless; you could add one to the iMac, but I can't imagine anyone doing so). The iMac benefits from two FireWire ports, Harman/Kardon speakers, a RAGE 128 Ultra, and VGA out. I'd say that VGA out is better than a TV tuner, but having a 17" display offset's the iMacs video card and speakers. The iMac still offers FireWire, has a far superior software bundle (sorry, but giving people commercial software adds more value than saving them a few minutes of downloading) and most importantly, I can play popular games on an iMac, both because it has an OS that supports them and because it has a real video card. The iMac also has a full BSD subsystem, so the AIO has no real advantage being on linux. And lets not forget that the AIO is godawful ugly (it looks like they were copying a Compaq copy of an iMac, badly).
So I think it's fair to say the $799 iMac has an edge over the $799 AIO. <sarcasm>This is incredibly shocking considering everyone knows Apple charges 4-8 times what their wintel competitors do</sarcasm>.
The simple answer is that if you buy a new machine every 2-3 years you don't ever need to upgrade anything except the RAM and perhaps the HDD; this has been the philosophy behind the iMac since it's introduction. Certainly a lot of/. users will probably want the slots, but the average home user today will probably never use any of their PCI slots. The average/. user will also just upgrade their components and have everything new except the case every 2 years, but for the average user it's easier (and much cheaper if they can't do the labor themselves) to buy a new machine every 2 years, so these new compact machines definitely have a market, unfortunately this company is unlikely to reach it; it really has to be released be a company with good retail presence to reach the home market (I wonder who that will be now that both Gateway and Compaq are bleeding red ink like it's going out of style?).
The important thing about this machine (and about the iMac) is that it has FireWire built in. This is important not only because you would ordinarily be using one of your PCI slots for it, but because it will fuel all of your external expansion, such as HDDs and RAIDs, extra optical drives, etc.
Text configuration obviously offers more power for experienced server admins, but as the poster said, Apache could reach a whole new market if any MCSE could set it up with a GUI tool. If you don't already know the program, a GUI will allow you to configure it just by looking at a few dialogs, whereas you'd be wading through man pages for quite a while to learn how to config everything you needed to, so GUI configuration tools are far superior for environments where there is no dedicated IT person, such as SOHO, plus many middle-sized businesses will be able to lower the TCO of their servers if they don't need an uber-geek to config them, and even pros can often get something up faster using a good GUI if they don't need to change to many options from their defaults.
Now while there are advantages to the GUI front end, you are absolutely correct that the config files should be directly editable so that you can gain access to tweak every little option, something that is cumbersome to implement in a GUI, and preserves all the niceties of being able to grep the file or edit it where a GUI app is unavailable or unnessesary. As for being able to cp a backup, you will still have that, but you should be able to do that with any (well-designed) config file anyway.
Clearly there is a market for friendly front-ends to Apache, and wherever it is possible to be able to do something in both a GUI and a CLI, implementing both will allow the user to choose the tool that best suits the situation: configure it with a human-friendly and fast GUI or edit the file directly with the unlimited options of a CLI.
BUT IIS to some people is easier to use, so hence the easiness facto makes it attractive to a lot of people.
Apache is not necessarily harder to use; if you just install Apache you will be doing all the configuration yourself, but there are scores of great configuration utilities for every platform Apache runs on that make it much easier to use than IIS.
Consider that in Mac OS X to get an Apache server up and running you simply put the files for the site in/Library/WebServer/Documents and (if applicable) have each user put their files in their ~/Sites folder, then open System Prefs, click Sharing, click Start Web Sharing, wait 2 seconds and it's up.
Not only that, the fact that the drive is only reading occasionally and most of the time the player is reading from the RAM buffer means that you are far less likely to damage the drive when using the player in high-shock situations.
The RealMedia format has become soft of like Netscape 4.x and later; we're supposed to root for their crappy product just because they're up against MS. Of course, we also know how terrible the WM codecs are, but even they have a slight edge over RM, especially when you consider the horrible job Real does writing their official players and plug-ins.
Now of course everyone's response to this is that TiVO should start using open-source codec x or version of DiVX y, but let's face facts people, huge corporations aren't going to give some little-known format a try in their mass-market products just for kicks. If you really want to see RM and WM go away, you have to look to MPEG-4. I would expect to start seeing the big names involved in the format start rolling out big-name products that use MPEG-4 this summer. Apple just started including MPEG-4 support in their OSS QuickTime Streaming Server and it seems likely that they will start including the codec with the player so everyone can export MPEG-4 streams sometime this year.
The same thing was true of the Power Mac G3 when the original iMac came out; I would say that the G3 looked even less attractive then than the PMG4 does now, actually.
The bright side of this is that Apple will obviously have to put out new Power Macs (and probably at least speedbump the Power Books) at Tokyo, and the fact that they didn't announce them at MWSF might indicate that they will wait for G5s rather than bumping them to Apollo G4s.
Now that the keynote is finished, apple.com has been updated with sections on the new iMac , the new iBook and iPhoto, including the download (13.5MB).
Here are the official specs on the new iMacs from Apple's page:
The two bottom models have a 700 MHz G4, with the top one having an 800 MHz chip. All feature 256K processor speed L2 cache, but all have a 100 MHz bus, slightly slower than the towers. Bottom model has 128 MB RAM, all others 256; lower two models have 40 GB drives, top model has 60; bottom model has CD-RW, top two have DVD-R/CD-RWs, and finally the top two come with a set of Apple Pro Speakers.
All models have: GeForce 2MX/32MB DDR, 2 FireWire ports, 3 USB 1.1 ports on the machine and two on the keyboard, Mini-VGA output port, 56K modem, 10/100 ethernet, and a typical software bundle with all the iApps, Quicken 2002, Otto Matic, World Book Encyclopedia, AppleWorks, and a bunch of free browsers and readers preinstalled.
The screen is a 15" viewable TFT at 1024x768 at millions of colors.
Apple will continue to sell CRT iMacs starting at $799; the new models cost $1299, $1499, and $1799, respectively.
The new iBooks received more of a speed bump than a revolutionary upgrade like the iMac, but are still a great deal in consumer portables. They now stand like this:
500 MHz G3 in the bottom model, 600MHz in the others; bottom two have 128MB RAM, top has 256; 66MHz bus in the bottom, 100 in the top two; CD-
ROM in the bottom, DVD-R/CD-RW in the top two; 15 GB disk in the bottom, 20 in the top two; and of course a 12.1" display in the bottom two and a 14" in the top one.
All the iBooks have 1 FireWire port and 2 USB 1.1 ports, a VGA out and a composite video out (w/ adapter), 56K modem, 10/100 ethernet, the small white power adapter, and the same bundle as the iMac.
The dimensions are 11.2x9.06x1.35" and 4.9 lbs. on the 12.1" models, and 12.7x10.2x1.35 and 5.99 lbs. on the 14" model, and the 12.1" models have a 42 watt-hour battery for an advertised 5 hours of power, with the 14" model having a 55 watt-hour battery with an advertised 6 hours of power.
Apple has done it again, offering the flat screen iMac starting at $1299 with a G4, even as many were doubting they could offer any flat screen desktop below $1499!
Now that the keynote is finished, apple.com has been updated with sections on the new iMac, the new iBook and iPhoto, including the download.
Also, here are the official specs on the new iMacs from Apple's page:
The two bottom models have a 700 MHz G4, with the top one having an 800 MHz chip. All feature 256K processor speed L2 cache, but all have a 100 MHz bus, slightly slower than the towers. Bottom model has 128 MB RAM, all others 256; lower two models have 40 GB drives, top model has 60; bottom model has CD-RW, top two have DVD-R/CD-RWs, and finally the top two come with a set of Apple Pro Speakers.
All models have: GeForce 2MX/32MB DDR, 2 FireWire ports, 3 USB 1.1 ports on the machine and two on the keyboard, Mini-VGA output port, 56K modem, 10/100 ethernet, and a typical software bundle with all the iApps, Quicken 2002, Otto Matic, World Book Encyclopedia, AppleWorks, and a bunch of free browsers and readers preinstalled.
The screen is a 15" viewable TFT at 1024x768 at millions of colors.
Apple will continue to sell CRT iMacs starting at $799; the new models cost $1299, $1499, and $1799, respectively.
Although there are layoffs at many CG studios right now, look at how many more studios there are when 6 years ago we saw the first CG film and until recently there had been only been two. As for the quality of the movies, I'm sure we'll see capitalism sort them out. Square Pictures certainly found that out, although I would rather have seen another studio go, since they did some great modeling and shading, even if the script was more than a bit lacking, but Pixar is still growing like crazy to try and reach their movie per year goal; in the last earnings call Steve Jobs reported that they've had to start renting space across the street from the bigger HQ they just finished constructing.
I would have to agree that Shrek is too self-conscious and probably won't be funny in 5 years, although Lithgow's great performance does have redeeming quality. But I think you really hit the nail on the head when you pointed out that although you expect a happy ending in Pixar movies, you could never guess all the plot twists that take you there. Rest assured that MI's ending will not disappoint; if the rest of the movies seems slightly weaker than their previous films, the ending outshines those of any of their other movies, and the beautiful fur animation of Sully will have your eyes glued to the screen the whole time anyway.
It should be noted that the bug does not, "enable remote users to execute code on any machine logged into the AOL IM service," but is specific to Windows versions 4.3 and newer. They have confirmed that it does not affect Netscape's built in AIM, and assumably alternative OSes and alternative clients are safe. So let me include another shameless endorsement of Fire;)
Which brand of mouse do you have? The only manufacturer that has currently written drivers for Mac OS X is Kensington, unfortunately they just make good trackballs and average mice. If you have any other brand of mouse, Mac OS X will fall back to the generic USB mouse driver which supports left and right buttons and a scroll wheel, but not any third, fourth, fifth, etc. buttons. Also note that the right button is not control-click, it is right click; all OS X applications support two button mice (you can see this in the keymappings in Q3A, for example).
The solution, of course, is to have you and all your friends e-mail the manufacturer until they get off their lazy arse and write some drivers. You could also go over to the Mac OS X feedback page and suggest that they add support for configuring additional buttons, but it really is the responsibility of the manufacturer to write a driver for their product if the default one doesn't support all it's features (after all, the OS 9 mouse driver only supports one button).
BTW, I use the Logitech Cordless Optical Mouse, which is a simple cordless with two buttons and a scroll wheel that therefore doesn't require a special driver. It's also cheaper than the 3-button version and fits my hand better.
The current problem with UFS is that most classic apps only understand HFS/HFS+ partitions; i.e. many will not even run if they are on a UFS partition, or they will not be able to save or read files. This is the primary reason why almost no one is formatting their OS X disk in UFS yet, mostly just people running servers. UFS offers some substantial performance gains, however, so as soon as Photoshop 7 is out, many may make the switch.
Apple might therefore switch the formatting on new Macs in 6 months to a year. It is always tough to decide between performance/features and backwards compatibility, after all, it is nice still being able to run most apps written for System 0.0 in OS X:)
You are telling him to get a 12.1" screen Dell to replace a TiBook?!?
Now the Dell is $500 cheaper, so i changed the specs to try to get it to compete with the 2,299 TiBook: 256MB RAM, 20GB HDD and CD-RW/DVD drive, and the result cost $2,226.00, so price is about the same. But you get the screen of an iBook!
your typical Linux user and choose from KDE, Gnome, blackbox (my personal favorite), icewm, vanilla, Enlightenment, etc.. etc..
This offers a great advantage in that you can pick a WM that fits your style, unfortunately X11 is a very weak and, as the author put it, "clunky" base that they all must run on, and none of the choices offer the desktop ease of use and incorporation of graphics desktop users demand. It is childish to call OS X a "KDEish environment" when KDE cannot hope to offer an interface at the level of Aqua.
the only other "cool" thing i noticed with it is that you can switch back to Mac OS 9 (which takes about a good 2-3 minutes to do that)
43 seconds on my G4/466 MHz, which should be fairly middle-of-the-road Mac hardware (it's mostly disk operations anyway); I don't know any Mac that would take more than a minute.
unix shell in Mac OS X is nothing special... it's really limited to what you can and can't do in the shell
There are very few limits to what you can do in the CLI; it is essentially a full BSDish system. You can complain about what comes preinstalled, but I think it's fine considering most users will never touch the terminal; power users will most likely want their own favorite tools so it's just as well to let them download it themselves. Apple doesn't bundle make because almost all developers are going to do all of their compiling in Project Builder (why would you want to do it at the CLI when you they bundle such excellent DevTools?)
Also, I'm sure there's a card with a box of chocolates on the way to Redmond from McAfee.
Anyone else got to see the demo version of McAfee ActiveShield installed on new HP systems? One of my friends called me over one day because he said his antivirus had found a virus on his computer. I told him just to hir repair and if that didn't work, hit delete, then he told me there were no repair or delete buttons.
When I went to look at the problem, I saw ActiveShield had popped up a dialog, "McAfee ActuiveShield has detected an infection in this file somefile.mp3.vbs VBS/Love Letter." With a button that took you to the McAfee website where you could remove this virus using McAfee online for "only 39.95." After getting him NAV, we found that it had infected every eligible file on the system (about 23,000), and LoveLetter of course overwrites the original files.
I found his restore disks and went back to my Power Mac.
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I beleive the hard drive and optical drives are integrated in all computers; I've not yet seen one where the primary drives are all external. Perhaps you're implying that they are proprietary and can't be upgraded, in which case you are also wrong.
Apple has posted the take-apart instructions for the new iMac; the story is on Macslash right now. It's no harder to replace than the LCD in a notebook, as long as you can find a compatible part (it's a standard, mass-manufactured LCD, and /.ers are supposed to be the masters of hardware hacking, I don't understand why they bitch about the Mac's architecture; there's nothing proprietary about anything except the motherboard)
Mostly Mac geeks, since many of us are graphic designers. It's no coincidence ;)
A lot of the people who have iPods with FireWire transfer probably also have a Power Mac, so they have 1000BASE-T ethernet ;)
So I think it's fair to say the $799 iMac has an edge over the $799 AIO. <sarcasm>This is incredibly shocking considering everyone knows Apple charges 4-8 times what their wintel competitors do</sarcasm>.
The important thing about this machine (and about the iMac) is that it has FireWire built in. This is important not only because you would ordinarily be using one of your PCI slots for it, but because it will fuel all of your external expansion, such as HDDs and RAIDs, extra optical drives, etc.
Now while there are advantages to the GUI front end, you are absolutely correct that the config files should be directly editable so that you can gain access to tweak every little option, something that is cumbersome to implement in a GUI, and preserves all the niceties of being able to grep the file or edit it where a GUI app is unavailable or unnessesary. As for being able to cp a backup, you will still have that, but you should be able to do that with any (well-designed) config file anyway.
Clearly there is a market for friendly front-ends to Apache, and wherever it is possible to be able to do something in both a GUI and a CLI, implementing both will allow the user to choose the tool that best suits the situation: configure it with a human-friendly and fast GUI or edit the file directly with the unlimited options of a CLI.
Apache is not necessarily harder to use; if you just install Apache you will be doing all the configuration yourself, but there are scores of great configuration utilities for every platform Apache runs on that make it much easier to use than IIS.
Consider that in Mac OS X to get an Apache server up and running you simply put the files for the site in /Library/WebServer/Documents and (if applicable) have each user put their files in their ~/Sites folder, then open System Prefs, click Sharing, click Start Web Sharing, wait 2 seconds and it's up.
Not only that, the fact that the drive is only reading occasionally and most of the time the player is reading from the RAM buffer means that you are far less likely to damage the drive when using the player in high-shock situations.
Now of course everyone's response to this is that TiVO should start using open-source codec x or version of DiVX y, but let's face facts people, huge corporations aren't going to give some little-known format a try in their mass-market products just for kicks. If you really want to see RM and WM go away, you have to look to MPEG-4. I would expect to start seeing the big names involved in the format start rolling out big-name products that use MPEG-4 this summer. Apple just started including MPEG-4 support in their OSS QuickTime Streaming Server and it seems likely that they will start including the codec with the player so everyone can export MPEG-4 streams sometime this year.
The bright side of this is that Apple will obviously have to put out new Power Macs (and probably at least speedbump the Power Books) at Tokyo, and the fact that they didn't announce them at MWSF might indicate that they will wait for G5s rather than bumping them to Apollo G4s.
Here are the official specs on the new iMacs from Apple's page:
The two bottom models have a 700 MHz G4, with the top one having an 800 MHz chip. All feature 256K processor speed L2 cache, but all have a 100 MHz bus, slightly slower than the towers. Bottom model has 128 MB RAM, all others 256; lower two models have 40 GB drives, top model has 60; bottom model has CD-RW, top two have DVD-R/CD-RWs, and finally the top two come with a set of Apple Pro Speakers.
All models have: GeForce 2MX/32MB DDR, 2 FireWire ports, 3 USB 1.1 ports on the machine and two on the keyboard, Mini-VGA output port, 56K modem, 10/100 ethernet, and a typical software bundle with all the iApps, Quicken 2002, Otto Matic, World Book Encyclopedia, AppleWorks, and a bunch of free browsers and readers preinstalled.
The screen is a 15" viewable TFT at 1024x768 at millions of colors.
Apple will continue to sell CRT iMacs starting at $799; the new models cost $1299, $1499, and $1799, respectively.
The new iBooks received more of a speed bump than a revolutionary upgrade like the iMac, but are still a great deal in consumer portables. They now stand like this:
500 MHz G3 in the bottom model, 600MHz in the others; bottom two have 128MB RAM, top has 256; 66MHz bus in the bottom, 100 in the top two; CD- ROM in the bottom, DVD-R/CD-RW in the top two; 15 GB disk in the bottom, 20 in the top two; and of course a 12.1" display in the bottom two and a 14" in the top one.
All the iBooks have 1 FireWire port and 2 USB 1.1 ports, a VGA out and a composite video out (w/ adapter), 56K modem, 10/100 ethernet, the small white power adapter, and the same bundle as the iMac.
The dimensions are 11.2x9.06x1.35" and 4.9 lbs. on the 12.1" models, and 12.7x10.2x1.35 and 5.99 lbs. on the 14" model, and the 12.1" models have a 42 watt-hour battery for an advertised 5 hours of power, with the 14" model having a 55 watt-hour battery with an advertised 6 hours of power.
Apple has done it again, offering the flat screen iMac starting at $1299 with a G4, even as many were doubting they could offer any flat screen desktop below $1499!
Also, here are the official specs on the new iMacs from Apple's page:
The two bottom models have a 700 MHz G4, with the top one having an 800 MHz chip. All feature 256K processor speed L2 cache, but all have a 100 MHz bus, slightly slower than the towers. Bottom model has 128 MB RAM, all others 256; lower two models have 40 GB drives, top model has 60; bottom model has CD-RW, top two have DVD-R/CD-RWs, and finally the top two come with a set of Apple Pro Speakers.
All models have: GeForce 2MX/32MB DDR, 2 FireWire ports, 3 USB 1.1 ports on the machine and two on the keyboard, Mini-VGA output port, 56K modem, 10/100 ethernet, and a typical software bundle with all the iApps, Quicken 2002, Otto Matic, World Book Encyclopedia, AppleWorks, and a bunch of free browsers and readers preinstalled.
The screen is a 15" viewable TFT at 1024x768 at millions of colors.
Apple will continue to sell CRT iMacs starting at $799; the new models cost $1299, $1499, and $1799, respectively.
Although there are layoffs at many CG studios right now, look at how many more studios there are when 6 years ago we saw the first CG film and until recently there had been only been two. As for the quality of the movies, I'm sure we'll see capitalism sort them out. Square Pictures certainly found that out, although I would rather have seen another studio go, since they did some great modeling and shading, even if the script was more than a bit lacking, but Pixar is still growing like crazy to try and reach their movie per year goal; in the last earnings call Steve Jobs reported that they've had to start renting space across the street from the bigger HQ they just finished constructing.
I would have to agree that Shrek is too self-conscious and probably won't be funny in 5 years, although Lithgow's great performance does have redeeming quality. But I think you really hit the nail on the head when you pointed out that although you expect a happy ending in Pixar movies, you could never guess all the plot twists that take you there. Rest assured that MI's ending will not disappoint; if the rest of the movies seems slightly weaker than their previous films, the ending outshines those of any of their other movies, and the beautiful fur animation of Sully will have your eyes glued to the screen the whole time anyway.
It should be noted that the bug does not, "enable remote users to execute code on any machine logged into the AOL IM service," but is specific to Windows versions 4.3 and newer. They have confirmed that it does not affect Netscape's built in AIM, and assumably alternative OSes and alternative clients are safe. So let me include another shameless endorsement of Fire ;)
The solution, of course, is to have you and all your friends e-mail the manufacturer until they get off their lazy arse and write some drivers. You could also go over to the Mac OS X feedback page and suggest that they add support for configuring additional buttons, but it really is the responsibility of the manufacturer to write a driver for their product if the default one doesn't support all it's features (after all, the OS 9 mouse driver only supports one button).
BTW, I use the Logitech Cordless Optical Mouse, which is a simple cordless with two buttons and a scroll wheel that therefore doesn't require a special driver. It's also cheaper than the 3-button version and fits my hand better.
Apple might therefore switch the formatting on new Macs in 6 months to a year. It is always tough to decide between performance/features and backwards compatibility, after all, it is nice still being able to run most apps written for System 0.0 in OS X :)
(Sorry to post this again, but it appears people are copying the bad URL :) The link the AC provided is to the old version of Darwin (the one that came with Mac OS X 10.0); The home page for the current version is at http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/, and the installer CD image of Darwin 1.4.1 for x86 is at http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/1. 4/release/darwinx86-141.iso.gz.
The link you provided is to the old version of Darwin (the one that came with Mac OS X 10.0); The home page for the new version is at http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/, and the installer CD image of Darwin 1.4.1 for x86 is at http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/1. 4/release/darwinx86-141.iso.gz.
Now the Dell is $500 cheaper, so i changed the specs to try to get it to compete with the 2,299 TiBook: 256MB RAM, 20GB HDD and CD-RW/DVD drive, and the result cost $2,226.00, so price is about the same. But you get the screen of an iBook!
I would have to say that it is easier to write the GUI for an OS X application since it doesn't involve writing any code.
This offers a great advantage in that you can pick a WM that fits your style, unfortunately X11 is a very weak and, as the author put it, "clunky" base that they all must run on, and none of the choices offer the desktop ease of use and incorporation of graphics desktop users demand. It is childish to call OS X a "KDEish environment" when KDE cannot hope to offer an interface at the level of Aqua.
the only other "cool" thing i noticed with it is that you can switch back to Mac OS 9 (which takes about a good 2-3 minutes to do that)
43 seconds on my G4/466 MHz, which should be fairly middle-of-the-road Mac hardware (it's mostly disk operations anyway); I don't know any Mac that would take more than a minute.
unix shell in Mac OS X is nothing special... it's really limited to what you can and can't do in the shell
There are very few limits to what you can do in the CLI; it is essentially a full BSDish system. You can complain about what comes preinstalled, but I think it's fine considering most users will never touch the terminal; power users will most likely want their own favorite tools so it's just as well to let them download it themselves. Apple doesn't bundle make because almost all developers are going to do all of their compiling in Project Builder (why would you want to do it at the CLI when you they bundle such excellent DevTools?)
Anyone else got to see the demo version of McAfee ActiveShield installed on new HP systems? One of my friends called me over one day because he said his antivirus had found a virus on his computer. I told him just to hir repair and if that didn't work, hit delete, then he told me there were no repair or delete buttons.
When I went to look at the problem, I saw ActiveShield had popped up a dialog, "McAfee ActuiveShield has detected an infection in this file somefile.mp3.vbs VBS/Love Letter." With a button that took you to the McAfee website where you could remove this virus using McAfee online for "only 39.95." After getting him NAV, we found that it had infected every eligible file on the system (about 23,000), and LoveLetter of course overwrites the original files.
I found his restore disks and went back to my Power Mac.