May I recommend that Do not run this code if you
can not understand what it is doing.
For all we know, this is a social engineering trick to spread some malicious code. Let's wait until some official folks eg. CERT, or your vendor/distribution responds. Are the people who released this code have some credibility that can be verified independently?
I will take Cuba rather than USA with it various new laws and powerful corporations, any time. How much freedom is left in this country?
Also, how much do you know about Cuba? It is a country standing on its own with US's embargo continuing over years, not to mention CIA's attempts to destabilize it. Everyone thought they would collapse after the USSR, but they survive. Maybe they do something right? Their health care system, infant mortality rate and many other markers for "good life" are better than USA:-).
Just because Microsoft cannot introduce Viola does not mean others cannot if they are sued. It all depends on the reason for rejection of introducing Viola's prior art. If it is only because of late filing etc., I say let Microsoft be screwed and we already have a good defense.
Don't tell me this will make Microsoft start collecting patents, they will do that no matter what. It is a very efficient, and indeed a legal, way to maintain a monopoly, which Microsoft loves.
I agree it is not Bush's fault, but it is a consequence of the US foreign politics over years.
Unfortunately people like you are dismissing this, by making irrelevant statements like above. Bush, by the way, did contribute to this mess the US is now in.
I understand the holes in Manhattan are more relevant to you, but please do not ignore the other places that were destroyed and the deaths of other people as a result of American policies.
Please, try to understand that the US is not a target because of jealousy or anything like that. The people who attack the US are in a mindset where they think that they are either defending themselves, or taking revenge. The US does pose a a very real threat to many many people.
Even if the hardware is patented, the driver may be patent free. In this case, (hardware) patents would help releasing an open source driver, since even if you reverse engineer, you cannot reproduce a patented product.
boy i am so upset i spent my moderation points before checking politics section. and now with my comments i'll receive a flamebait mod and lose karma, but i won't go AC.
you are a troll, because i don't think anyone can be this stupid. many comments already refuted what you said but i don't want this last point go unnoticed: Also, this does not mean I think the rights of a public protester should be curtailed or trodden on. However, going to a pro-candidate event and doing something decidedly anti-candidate serves no real purpose but to generate ill-will. Is there a snowball's chance in hell of changing anyone's mind at that gathering? No.
The right to express your opinion is independent of other's opinions. Not to bother someone is not a reason for cencorship. This is not a private function, it is a political function and showing up and stating you opinion serves a purpose. if the people there were thinking they were all right and feeling cozy, expression of opinion would serve to show them there is another side to the issues discussed there; if the reason for gathering was gaining publicity then by showing up there and expressing your opinion you have chance that your opinion and dissent will be heard when this function is e.g., shown on TV. For my son's bar mitzvah I would not invite TV crews or sell tickets, if you want public access, you will get public access with all strings attached.
I assume this is a joke, but in case some people take it seriously, I'll reply seriously. The point is, most of the actions like bringing your favourite beverage, or wearing a shirt you already own is not advertisement by the beverage company or the shirts manufacturer. The homogonization attempts are scary and sets a dangerous precedent.
BTW, I don't buy "if you don't like the rules don't go to venues" response. This is an event that happens once every four years, in a single place in the world. What should I do if I want to see the best athletes, other than giving in?
The consistency of/. response is also supported by that the choices athletes have against IOC is comparable to choices artists have against RIAA.
With all due respect, he brought this onto himself. He is the founder and possibly one of the most influential persons of a convicted software monopoly. His company produces crap, sells it at a high price using illegal practices. Microsoft makes my life harder. Microsoft makes other people's lifes harder. They know his, he knows this and they continue what they are doing with no concern.
He has been criticised more mildly when this all started. If you are aggressive and ambitious you risk hatred. If you live in a glass house...
Microsoft and by association Bill Gates deserves the bashing. They (ie. the top staff) are in this for money and seemingly everything else is less important. Yes, he is a human, but a harmful one. I prefer to judge a person with what distinguishes him from others. A lot of people have kids, but most are not as harmful as MS execs.
intention does not mean that in this case. he was not watching the DVD with the intention of killing someone. the same thing in a shooting range, but there it will be much harder to prove that you were not paying attention. i can see an idiot watching DVD while driving w/o thinking of consequences. if someone is not looking where they shoot at in a shooting range, first thing comes to my mind is they committed murder and are trying to get away.
that being said, i agree that there should be special treatment of car accidents where there is negligience. i hate it when i realize that i pay more attention to the traffic as a pedestrian than the drivers on the road.
Then they should hire someone to do the copying rather than their highly paid developers. For instance, they can subcontract this to some cheap-linux-CD-seller. Sorry, if you claim something costs you $50 while equivalent merchandise is available cheaper, the burden of proof is on you.
bzzzt! wrong answer...
GPL requires you to release the source if you incorporate GPL'ed code into your code and distribute that code. Nothing for using GPL'ed code.
OK, maybe you did not mean what I understood, but I think it should be stated more clearly.
are you kidding? patents are not lost if they are not enforced. if IBM wants to enforce a patent a) which is used in a product distributed by IBM or b) which is used in a product distributed by IBM as well as in other products not distributed by IBM. IBM can a) stop the distribution and enforce the patent b) enforce the patent for the product not distributed by itself. GPL is not stronger than copyright, as long as you stop distributing the product you are no longer bound by its rules. The past recipients of the product probably cannot be sued without the original author of the product claiming copyright infringement though.
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Maybe they do not give back in terms of technology, but they do give back to community! I can think of at least in two ways.
1) They provide an alternative to Microsoft. Not only search, it looks like they will give a blow to hotmail as well. They prevent MSN from becoming the portal. I think this is very important, people see things can be done better than the Microsoft way, and it can be done with Linux;-)
2) They make the communication within Open Source and Free Software community much easier. I keep a log of visits to my webpages, and 90% of hits come from Google searches. I almost exclusively use Google to find a resource for any project I am working on, including Free Software resources. Without Google, I might have had to filter through a hundred compiler advertisement pages, before getting information on a trick for GCC preprocessor. Now I type what I need, it is usually on the first page. Granted, I use Google because I am lazy, but people are generally lazy.
I think Google does give back to community, in a way, they enable us to be a community.
well, supposedly the threat is from lack of a male as you are using two females in this procedure. the problem is, this procedure will also produce a female, no?
interestingly he did not test with RedHat, even though he tested with two versions of Slackware. i think it is much easier to buy RedHat and support for it than Slackware (which is my first love:-) ).
I might be paranoid, but I smell FUD.
They didn't hire Groklaw, they hired the editor of Groklaw, PJ. She was doing Groklaw in her spare time anyways, so probably it will continue to be independent. Her expertise from Groklaw will certainly help, but you are making it seem like a company now controls Groklaw.
or maybe you are trolling???
You are lost in a foreign city, you don't speak the language and you are late for your meeting. What do you do? Take out your cellphone,... ... get it stolen, and get screwed over the phonebill as well.
what kind of meeting is this, that is hold where you do not know the language, and have no clue to get around, did you parachuted to the meeting but missed the building?
what happened to phrasebooks?
man i'm bitter...
ummm. for, say, 1024bit keys, the number of all primes (see prime number theorem) is more than the number of all hydrogen atoms in the observable universe (again checking wikipedia would help) by orders of magnitude. you can't check all primes...
you are referring to reclections on trusting trust. you are highly exaggerating though. the only reliable reference to an actual incident I found is in the jargon file, but even that is a tongue-in-the-cheek expression. This was not distributed, certainly not to all customers which purchased early versions of "Unix", which is the implication I get from your post.
It would be even harder to do with gcc/glibc as there are many environments where gcc is compiled with the native compiler of that platform, e.g., Solaris. You can check even for Linux though, compile gcc in Solaris, then cross compile gcc to Linux using the gcc you compiled in Solaris, then compile the gcc source with your cross compiled product. and finally compile gnu C library, if there is any malicious code that is inserted by a crooked compiler, it will show.
there are good answers already but here are my two cents:
1. Installing a backdoor in my compiler or my connection to the device is way harder than installing a backdoor in binary code.
2. I do read source code, anybody installing a router for critical missions should also be able to do so. It is not that hard to read, and I think it will be easier to remove backdoor than writing a clever one so it won't be spotted easily.
3. MOST IMPORTANTLY: If this happened with open source, we would have a chance to fix it as soon as we learn about it. There would be no need to wait for the vendor.
Re:Great examples as to why they SHOULD NOT use CS
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this is flamebait, but i'll reply just for the record. MS IE is not CSS compliant despite what MS says. the designs in those pages look beautiful in my galeon window, and i lose no content.
man...
somehow when reading submission, the initial scenes from "the entire strikes back" came to my mind. robots going around, collecting data...
am i the only one?
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May I recommend that Do not run this code if you can not understand what it is doing.
For all we know, this is a social engineering trick to spread some malicious code. Let's wait until some official folks eg. CERT, or your vendor/distribution responds. Are the people who released this code have some credibility that can be verified independently?
Also, how much do you know about Cuba? It is a country standing on its own with US's embargo continuing over years, not to mention CIA's attempts to destabilize it. Everyone thought they would collapse after the USSR, but they survive. Maybe they do something right? Their health care system, infant mortality rate and many other markers for "good life" are better than USA :-).
Just because Microsoft cannot introduce Viola does not mean others cannot if they are sued. It all depends on the reason for rejection of introducing Viola's prior art. If it is only because of late filing etc., I say let Microsoft be screwed and we already have a good defense.
Don't tell me this will make Microsoft start collecting patents, they will do that no matter what. It is a very efficient, and indeed a legal, way to maintain a monopoly, which Microsoft loves.
I agree it is not Bush's fault, but it is a consequence of the US foreign politics over years.
Unfortunately people like you are dismissing this, by making irrelevant statements like above. Bush, by the way, did contribute to this mess the US is now in.
I understand the holes in Manhattan are more relevant to you, but please do not ignore the other places that were destroyed and the deaths of other people as a result of American policies.
Please, try to understand that the US is not a target because of jealousy or anything like that. The people who attack the US are in a mindset where they think that they are either defending themselves, or taking revenge. The US does pose a a very real threat to many many people.
Even if the hardware is patented, the driver may be patent free. In this case, (hardware) patents would help releasing an open source driver, since even if you reverse engineer, you cannot reproduce a patented product.
boy i am so upset i spent my moderation points before checking politics section. and now with my comments i'll receive a flamebait mod and lose karma, but i won't go AC.
you are a troll, because i don't think anyone can be this stupid. many comments already refuted what you said but i don't want this last point go unnoticed:
Also, this does not mean I think the rights of a public protester should be curtailed or trodden on. However, going to a pro-candidate event and doing something decidedly anti-candidate serves no real purpose but to generate ill-will. Is there a snowball's chance in hell of changing anyone's mind at that gathering? No.
The right to express your opinion is independent of other's opinions. Not to bother someone is not a reason for cencorship. This is not a private function, it is a political function and showing up and stating you opinion serves a purpose. if the people there were thinking they were all right and feeling cozy, expression of opinion would serve to show them there is another side to the issues discussed there; if the reason for gathering was gaining publicity then by showing up there and expressing your opinion you have chance that your opinion and dissent will be heard when this function is e.g., shown on TV. For my son's bar mitzvah I would not invite TV crews or sell tickets, if you want public access, you will get public access with all strings attached.
I assume this is a joke, but in case some people take it seriously, I'll reply seriously. The point is, most of the actions like bringing your favourite beverage, or wearing a shirt you already own is not advertisement by the beverage company or the shirts manufacturer. The homogonization attempts are scary and sets a dangerous precedent. /. response is also supported by that the choices athletes have against IOC is comparable to choices artists have against RIAA.
BTW, I don't buy "if you don't like the rules don't go to venues" response. This is an event that happens once every four years, in a single place in the world. What should I do if I want to see the best athletes, other than giving in?
The consistency of
Umm, would it not be abusing monopoly power?
I think I would call it OurSQL.
With all due respect, he brought this onto himself. He is the founder and possibly one of the most influential persons of a convicted software monopoly. His company produces crap, sells it at a high price using illegal practices. Microsoft makes my life harder. Microsoft makes other people's lifes harder. They know his, he knows this and they continue what they are doing with no concern. ...
He has been criticised more mildly when this all started. If you are aggressive and ambitious you risk hatred. If you live in a glass house
Microsoft and by association Bill Gates deserves the bashing. They (ie. the top staff) are in this for money and seemingly everything else is less important. Yes, he is a human, but a harmful one. I prefer to judge a person with what distinguishes him from others. A lot of people have kids, but most are not as harmful as MS execs.
intention does not mean that in this case. he was not watching the DVD with the intention of killing someone. the same thing in a shooting range, but there it will be much harder to prove that you were not paying attention. i can see an idiot watching DVD while driving w/o thinking of consequences. if someone is not looking where they shoot at in a shooting range, first thing comes to my mind is they committed murder and are trying to get away.
that being said, i agree that there should be special treatment of car accidents where there is negligience. i hate it when i realize that i pay more attention to the traffic as a pedestrian than the drivers on the road.
Then they should hire someone to do the copying rather than their highly paid developers. For instance, they can subcontract this to some cheap-linux-CD-seller. Sorry, if you claim something costs you $50 while equivalent merchandise is available cheaper, the burden of proof is on you.
bzzzt! wrong answer...
GPL requires you to release the source if you incorporate GPL'ed code into your code and distribute that code. Nothing for using GPL'ed code.
OK, maybe you did not mean what I understood, but I think it should be stated more clearly.
are you kidding? patents are not lost if they are not enforced. if IBM wants to enforce a patent a) which is used in a product distributed by IBM or b) which is used in a product distributed by IBM as well as in other products not distributed by IBM. IBM can a) stop the distribution and enforce the patent b) enforce the patent for the product not distributed by itself. GPL is not stronger than copyright, as long as you stop distributing the product you are no longer bound by its rules. The past recipients of the product probably cannot be sued without the original author of the product claiming copyright infringement though.
Maybe they do not give back in terms of technology, but they do give back to community! I can think of at least in two ways. ;-)
1) They provide an alternative to Microsoft. Not only search, it looks like they will give a blow to hotmail as well. They prevent MSN from becoming the portal. I think this is very important, people see things can be done better than the Microsoft way, and it can be done with Linux
2) They make the communication within Open Source and Free Software community much easier. I keep a log of visits to my webpages, and 90% of hits come from Google searches. I almost exclusively use Google to find a resource for any project I am working on, including Free Software resources. Without Google, I might have had to filter through a hundred compiler advertisement pages, before getting information on a trick for GCC preprocessor. Now I type what I need, it is usually on the first page. Granted, I use Google because I am lazy, but people are generally lazy.
I think Google does give back to community, in a way, they enable us to be a community.
well, supposedly the threat is from lack of a male as you are using two females in this procedure. the problem is, this procedure will also produce a female, no?
interestingly he did not test with RedHat, even though he tested with two versions of Slackware. i think it is much easier to buy RedHat and support for it than Slackware (which is my first love :-) ).
I might be paranoid, but I smell FUD.
IMHO, backporting from unstable to stable branch is different from backporting from a stable branch to previous stable branch.
They didn't hire Groklaw, they hired the editor of Groklaw, PJ. She was doing Groklaw in her spare time anyways, so probably it will continue to be independent. Her expertise from Groklaw will certainly help, but you are making it seem like a company now controls Groklaw.
or maybe you are trolling???
You are lost in a foreign city, you don't speak the language and you are late for your meeting. What do you do? Take out your cellphone, ...
... get it stolen, and get screwed over the phonebill as well.
what kind of meeting is this, that is hold where you do not know the language, and have no clue to get around, did you parachuted to the meeting but missed the building?
what happened to phrasebooks?
man i'm bitter...
ummm. for, say, 1024bit keys, the number of all primes (see prime number theorem) is more than the number of all hydrogen atoms in the observable universe (again checking wikipedia would help) by orders of magnitude. you can't check all primes...
you are referring to reclections on trusting trust. you are highly exaggerating though. the only reliable reference to an actual incident I found is in the jargon file, but even that is a tongue-in-the-cheek expression. This was not distributed, certainly not to all customers which purchased early versions of "Unix", which is the implication I get from your post.
It would be even harder to do with gcc/glibc as there are many environments where gcc is compiled with the native compiler of that platform, e.g., Solaris. You can check even for Linux though, compile gcc in Solaris, then cross compile gcc to Linux using the gcc you compiled in Solaris, then compile the gcc source with your cross compiled product. and finally compile gnu C library, if there is any malicious code that is inserted by a crooked compiler, it will show.
there are good answers already but here are my two cents:
1. Installing a backdoor in my compiler or my connection to the device is way harder than installing a backdoor in binary code.
2. I do read source code, anybody installing a router for critical missions should also be able to do so. It is not that hard to read, and I think it will be easier to remove backdoor than writing a clever one so it won't be spotted easily.
3. MOST IMPORTANTLY: If this happened with open source, we would have a chance to fix it as soon as we learn about it. There would be no need to wait for the vendor.
this is flamebait, but i'll reply just for the record. MS IE is not CSS compliant despite what MS says. the designs in those pages look beautiful in my galeon window, and i lose no content.
man...
somehow when reading submission, the initial scenes from "the entire strikes back" came to my mind. robots going around, collecting data...
am i the only one?