I was just responding to the rash of comments that this was impossible, to which I countered that it could be easily reached, especially in light of my second comment.
In faact, the Thai "Eua Athorn" program, which planned to deliver a million Linux computers into the marketplace, is credited with the crack in the dam that was "one price around the world." It's no longer true, and MS is now adjusting the price in many countries.
Well, you know I haven't RTFA, but since I have written extensively about it in my journal and was living there when it was introduced in response to a million pre-installed Linux machines, I'll comment anyway.
The menus are all in Thai, and cannot be modified, meaning that many installed programs wouldn't appear on the menus or possibly even run. It was only available on the"Eua Athorn" computers, a low cost Celeron socket 370 government program. In fact, though the legal copies could be installed when the computers were picked up, few people did it, and instead had their friend put a pirated copy from Panthip Plaza or similar place on for them.
It was a failure of an idea, and will continue to be. It was designed to start THais on legal software, and move them up to the full versions later. Few bought the idea, beccause it involved changing their old habit for a greater expense, and the brief shadow of government enforcement quickly faded away.
I had great hopes for the million Linux machine program, but alas.
Actually, I used 24 hours for that, but it's possible (RTFA?) that they used and eight hout workday for this, in which case, it's only about 1.4 hours per week downtime, which I find quite possible.
So, with server-client becoming the norm, why would that be bad? Works well for Fargo, FL, USA. The admins claim that they have plenty of time for forward, strategic planning instead of crisis management.
Near my house in Bangkok, Thailand (known for it's wonderful traffic), there is an overpass which has been under construction for ten years. The police have to alternate direction of traffic every 20 minutes, because there is a single lane. 1.5 hours for about 3km.
This is the reason that pirated software flourishes in SE asia and China. People just don't make enough money.
For instance, I did a lot of promotion of LinuxTLE in Thailand. A complete computer with it installed will cost about 11,000 Baht (~US$270), but the equivalent computer with XP and MS OFfice is 27K+.
For the entry level college grad, this is over three months' salary!. For the average programmer, it is about two and a half months' salary. People find it easy to justify the piracy when numbers like these come in, and it leads to the `95% piracy rate.
Compare this with Korea, where I live now. Almost every computer that I see is licensed properly, and running XP or ME. MSOffice is not popular, but a competitor, HanWord, is. Korea has the twelveth largest economy in the world (I've heard), and people make a salary approximately on par with the US. It is, however, a stone's throw from China, where the piracy is legendary.
Like Xandros? They include Crossover Office with their desktop. OTher distros do, too, but I can't remember any off hand. One is enough for the proof, anyway.
This of course goes hand-in-hand with the old saying, "When only the government has the weapons, your freedoms are illusory and on their whim." Something like that anyway.
I'm with your right to protect yourself 100%, though I don't, and never will, own a firearm.
I really love KDE. I just wish that ARts was more easily capable of using network transaprent sound. I know that it should have the capability, and I have seen posts like this but, somehow, all the guys who'd love to see it happen for thin clients can't seem to make it work.
Esound is not very good, but at least it works easily over a network.
If I'm wrong (plus all the other guys working on this), and there's and easy answer, I'd love to hear it, but until then, I'm lashed to GNOME and IceWM, and my favorite KDE sits out there in the"want it, but can't have it" pile.
Yeah, I think that the risk to you would be much reduced if you weren't obviously US/Euro from the white skin. I'm willing to bet a man of color would blend in better, draw less attention, garner fewer death threats, and still make the same, great pay.
They might ask you to fix it in college, but your not getting any ass in return for it. You probally will be recripocated well in non monetary ways for fixing other peoples computer, but don't expect any nookie.
Well, you may not get any hot-chick nookie for it, but some of us have... regularly. I think you're in the wrong society.
I majored in cognitive psychology because it interested me at the time. I worked as a paralegal then taught English in Prague. after travelling, loafing and eventually running out of money, I took a job as a "web developer" with no formal training whatsoever.
Yeah, I'm aware that Mandrake has their own term services. I was just suggesting two distro agnostic solutions. I could've recommended K12LTSP, which doesn't require any installation at all, and works out of the box for most hardware, either for PXE or etherboot. >
I'v been an LTSPer for ?5? years... I started on the alphas and we're now up to v. 4.x. I love thin clients and think that they are great for many situations (though, obviously, not all). My experiances have been so light administratively that I could run hundreds of machines if I cared to.
Well, if you're thinking about terminal services as a comparison, why not compare it to Linux thin clients, of which there are many premade systems (LTSP and PXES being two). I'm sure that would cost out more favorably.
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But then they could always do the came with cats: calico, tabby...
Just aren't inspiring, are they?
I was just responding to the rash of comments that this was impossible, to which I countered that it could be easily reached, especially in light of my second comment.
In faact, the Thai "Eua Athorn" program, which planned to deliver a million Linux computers into the marketplace, is credited with the crack in the dam that was "one price around the world." It's no longer true, and MS is now adjusting the price in many countries.
Well, you know I haven't RTFA, but since I have written extensively about it in my journal and was living there when it was introduced in response to a million pre-installed Linux machines, I'll comment anyway.
The menus are all in Thai, and cannot be modified, meaning that many installed programs wouldn't appear on the menus or possibly even run. It was only available on the"Eua Athorn" computers, a low cost Celeron socket 370 government program. In fact, though the legal copies could be installed when the computers were picked up, few people did it, and instead had their friend put a pirated copy from Panthip Plaza or similar place on for them.
It was a failure of an idea, and will continue to be. It was designed to start THais on legal software, and move them up to the full versions later. Few bought the idea, beccause it involved changing their old habit for a greater expense, and the brief shadow of government enforcement quickly faded away.
I had great hopes for the million Linux machine program, but alas.
Actually, I used 24 hours for that, but it's possible (RTFA?) that they used and eight hout workday for this, in which case, it's only about 1.4 hours per week downtime, which I find quite possible.
9 days a year is just a little over 4 hours a week.
So, with server-client becoming the norm, why would that be bad? Works well for Fargo, FL, USA. The admins claim that they have plenty of time for forward, strategic planning instead of crisis management.
Near my house in Bangkok, Thailand (known for it's wonderful traffic), there is an overpass which has been under construction for ten years. The police have to alternate direction of traffic every 20 minutes, because there is a single lane. 1.5 hours for about 3km.
How about going to the wrong webpage?
This is the reason that pirated software flourishes in SE asia and China. People just don't make enough money.
For instance, I did a lot of promotion of LinuxTLE in Thailand. A complete computer with it installed will cost about 11,000 Baht (~US$270), but the equivalent computer with XP and MS OFfice is 27K+.
For the entry level college grad, this is over three months' salary!. For the average programmer, it is about two and a half months' salary. People find it easy to justify the piracy when numbers like these come in, and it leads to the `95% piracy rate.
Compare this with Korea, where I live now. Almost every computer that I see is licensed properly, and running XP or ME. MSOffice is not popular, but a competitor, HanWord, is. Korea has the twelveth largest economy in the world (I've heard), and people make a salary approximately on par with the US. It is, however, a stone's throw from China, where the piracy is legendary.
Just my observations.
Like Xandros? They include Crossover Office with their desktop. OTher distros do, too, but I can't remember any off hand. One is enough for the proof, anyway.
I this really true? Is the CVS really no longer available to the public? Wow!
Except that Bleem died shortly thereafter!
This of course goes hand-in-hand with the old saying, "When only the government has the weapons, your freedoms are illusory and on their whim." Something like that anyway.
I'm with your right to protect yourself 100%, though I don't, and never will, own a firearm.
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A good description of this problem is here
I really love KDE. I just wish that ARts was more easily capable of using network transaprent sound. I know that it should have the capability, and I have seen posts like this but, somehow, all the guys who'd love to see it happen for thin clients can't seem to make it work.
Esound is not very good, but at least it works easily over a network.
If I'm wrong (plus all the other guys working on this), and there's and easy answer, I'd love to hear it, but until then, I'm lashed to GNOME and IceWM, and my favorite KDE sits out there in the"want it, but can't have it" pile.
Well, it's a fairly common term, so take it to mean what it's meant to.
Yeah, I think that the risk to you would be much reduced if you weren't obviously US/Euro from the white skin. I'm willing to bet a man of color would blend in better, draw less attention, garner fewer death threats, and still make the same, great pay.
Oh, for that world!!!!
They might ask you to fix it in college, but your not getting any ass in return for it. You probally will be recripocated well in non monetary ways for fixing other peoples computer, but don't expect any nookie.
... regularly. I think you're in the wrong society.
Well, you may not get any hot-chick nookie for it, but some of us have
I majored in cognitive psychology because it interested me at the time. I worked as a paralegal then taught English in Prague. after travelling, loafing and eventually running out of money, I took a job as a "web developer" with no formal training whatsoever.
And I thought I was alone...
Yeah, I'm aware that Mandrake has their own term services. I was just suggesting two distro agnostic solutions. I could've recommended K12LTSP, which doesn't require any installation at all, and works out of the box for most hardware, either for PXE or etherboot.
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I'v been an LTSPer for ?5? years... I started on the alphas and we're now up to v. 4.x. I love thin clients and think that they are great for many situations (though, obviously, not all). My experiances have been so light administratively that I could run hundreds of machines if I cared to.
Well, if you're thinking about terminal services as a comparison, why not compare it to Linux thin clients, of which there are many premade systems (LTSP and PXES being two). I'm sure that would cost out more favorably.
Well, apparently they were in the middle of updating the site. I see things changing on every click. Firefox just started working.
Can't send email. Just tried
The Javascript fails for some reason.