Soon, though, enterprises will be able to order their desktops from Dell (as usual) and use Notes (which they were already using), so I expect this move to go well for those enterprises using Lotus Notes and thinking of a migration to Linux desktops. That's got to be... what... 0.5-1% of the market?;)
Seriously, though == I hope this move is successful.
Computer World doesn't link to an announcement from IBM, but I suspect the problem is on PCW's end. THe use of 7.0 might mean the whole 7 series or it could be 7.04 where PCW thought the 4 was a patch number or something. If, however, the mistake is on IBM's side, I won't trust them to port Lotus Notes to an imaginary version.
Just curious what the relative street prices of these are (Isaiah and Silverthorne). Are they going to be the same? If they aren't, there's very little point in comparing the two.;) VIA has carved a good niche for itself in this area because they produce low power, small-form computers at a price significantly lower than comparable products. I don't expect Isaiah to break that tradition.
AMD has had a similar market with its Geode SoCs. It's a market. People want it. You don't need to run it on your corporate laptop, but it makes a kick-ass thin client.
Quote from my father:
"It would be silly to replace a whole bank of vacuum tubes when only one is busted."
Technology moves on. People rarely repair mobos. They don't upgrade their northbridge chips. Once it becomes economically advantageous, we'll see SoCs with integrated RAM for every consumer computer. Count on it.
BG wasn't talking about larger capitalism in his "finite greed" comment. He was just deriding media moguls for not trying to take over everything they saw and sticking to a single market. He was insulting them, pure and simple. There's no revisionist history going on in my mind. These days, BillG is just the average robber baron at the end of his life, lamenting that no one will remember him for anything but greed when he passes and trying to give away anough money to change the public's mind.
Yeah. Actually, after I slept and re-read my original post, I figure it's just code for "I want a lot of the OLPC/classmate money that's going to circulating in the next few years."
Anyway, I've said for years that Gates is no different than any of the other robber barons at the end of their lives: they realize that they are going to die and be remembered for their "infinite greed" and desperately try to give away enough money to change that opinion.
Well, Bill Gates is on the record (1995) for deriding other CEOs as having only "finite greed" and not being competitive enough by moving into new markets. Odd that he would call for "kinder capitalism."
Exactly what I was thinking. With 10 million subscribers, the monthly revenue has to be near USD100 million. That kind of money, even counting against it server and maintenance costs, has to be able to fund REAL advances in the game, which, if WoW wants to continue to be top dog in the future, should be rolled out to all subscribers for free.
Why would you do anything else, risking pissing off or boring your players and losing that gravy train?
Like I said, it can be used for text chat, but its main purpose is VOIP. To me, this implies that AOL may just be trying to get into Internet telephoy as well. Their rep has said that they are testing several things.
From SIPs RFC3261:
This document describes Session Initiation Protocol (SIP), an
application-layer control (signaling) protocol for creating,
modifying, and terminating sessions with one or more participants.
These sessions include Internet telephone calls, multimedia
distribution, and multimedia conferences.
Whereas Jabber's RFC3920 states:
While XMPP
provides a generalized, extensible framework for exchanging XML data,
it is used mainly for the purpose of building instant messaging and
presence applications that meet the requirements of RFC 2779.
and RFC3921 says:
This memo describes extensions to and applications of the core
features of the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP)
that provide the basic instant messaging (IM) and presence
functionality defined in RFC 2779.
I stand by my statement that this doesn't really look like "hedging bets."
SIP is pretty much a VOIP thing (though I guess it can be used for text chat), so I don't see how this conflicts with Jabber (except through Jingle, but they're not exactly the same thing). I doesn't look like "hedging their bets" -- more like they're planning on doing more VOIP in the future.
My father took me to his FAA office to show me Star Trek on the (I'm guessing) mainframe there when I was probably in fourth or fifth grade, so maybe it was 1977. In fifth grade, I routinely took ALL my allowance on Saturday and spent it at the mall arcade playing whatever they had. My favorites form the time were the physics-based line-graphics games like lunar lander and another space one which involved two ships circling a star. When my friend got Pong, we just sat around and played that.
Then I got my Model I in 1980(?), and spent the next four years trying to program my own games. Oh the joy of a 128×48 display. It made playing text games like Adventure or Hamurabi enjoyable in comparison.;)
On the subject of WWII, Japan, and "What would you do as President?" --
A couple of years ago I was teaching an especially bright Korean girl who was in seventh grade. When asked what she wanted to be when she grew up, she said that she wanted to be a diplomat or president or something similar. It was an intriguing answer, so I followed up with "Why? How do you want to make the world a different place?"
"I want to use nuclear bombs to destroy all of Japan and kill all the Japanese" was her deadpan answer.
This is not the first time I've heard of this, but it is the first time I've thought of the consequences (call me slow...). I used to believe that the incentive to get a site license was that you didn't have to track Windows licenses for each computer, but this stipulation[1] takes that benefit off the pro/con chart completely. Shocking.
[1] That "you have to have a valid retail or OEM license to accompany the PC to begin with."
I don't understand... what happened to the weeder courses that the CS majors went through when I was in Uni in the 80s? Hell, they tested you with stuff much lower level than C (IIRC, C wasn't even standardized back then). I mean, try doing really complicated stuff in assembly, and you figure out really fast who can think like a programmer and who can't. I never would have passed the weeder courses, but I knew it and went for S.E. instead of C.S.
I don't know a lot about programming as a profession, but teh article feels on target to me.
You're missing the point, actually. Sure, the lowered piracy and budget impact were important, but they weren't the interesting or useful long-term part. The freedom to modify, to localize, and to produce their own was the part of the equation which promised to create a thriving IT industry based on local demand, which was quite high.
In reality, your "If MS made Windows, and all of the apps that people use, free beer to the Thai people, and continued that until such time as it was reasonable to change it to a pay scenario" was pretty much exactly what happened, but the local industry was still screwed.
I'm not a follower of Stallman. I only know what I see as the result of OSS. The FOSS movement in Thailand when I lived there did real good for the country. OSS gave the country a way out of piracy, putting it back in the good graces of the WTO. The software offered real opportunities for localization so that young people who had never studied English could learn to use a computer without a dictionary. Before the Linux movement there, even adults with the standard, required education had real difficulty using MS Windows. The IT industry began creating software which made them (instead of MS) money. The government saw a way to stop sending the citizens' money overseas for basic operation.
This was all real. This was in stores. There were Linux desktops on sale in every hypermarket. There was local software for these desktops on the shelves.
Then MS came in, and in a back-room agreement with BCAA-style blackmail or who-knows-how-much money as palm grease, reversed the government policy so that it officially supported MS solutions, filled the school with half-asses localized copies for nothing, offered virtually free copies of MS for everyone, and killed the opportunity.
Yeah. I'm bitter about it. I don't put all the blame on MS. The Thai people carry at least half the guilt for selling themselves out for a few free copies of Win98, only to lose them six months later when it was EOLed. Thailand is now in exactly the same situation that it was it eight years ago, without a real IT industry of its own and a center for software piracy. Sure, the fabs are there. The little bit of outsourcing they get continues. That's it, though.
Still, for six months or a year, I saw what could happen. I saw the way it could be. I'll never forget it.
Ultimately, I think it's because the Free sofware movement works best with an agile-type of development. Release early; release often. That doesn't work for games. So much time is spent below the ground floor that there's nothing to release for ages, and there's no buzz developed.
How can you solve this problem? The answer is revolutionary.
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Essentially your saying...
;)
No. Essentially, my saying is my sig.
Soon, though, enterprises will be able to order their desktops from Dell (as usual) and use Notes (which they were already using), so I expect this move to go well for those enterprises using Lotus Notes and thinking of a migration to Linux desktops. That's got to be ... what ... 0.5-1% of the market? ;)
Seriously, though == I hope this move is successful.
You forgot the hot grits in your pants ....
Computer World doesn't link to an announcement from IBM, but I suspect the problem is on PCW's end. THe use of 7.0 might mean the whole 7 series or it could be 7.04 where PCW thought the 4 was a patch number or something. If, however, the mistake is on IBM's side, I won't trust them to port Lotus Notes to an imaginary version.
Just curious what the relative street prices of these are (Isaiah and Silverthorne). Are they going to be the same? If they aren't, there's very little point in comparing the two. ;) VIA has carved a good niche for itself in this area because they produce low power, small-form computers at a price significantly lower than comparable products. I don't expect Isaiah to break that tradition.
AMD has had a similar market with its Geode SoCs. It's a market. People want it. You don't need to run it on your corporate laptop, but it makes a kick-ass thin client.
Quote from my father:
"It would be silly to replace a whole bank of vacuum tubes when only one is busted."
Technology moves on. People rarely repair mobos. They don't upgrade their northbridge chips. Once it becomes economically advantageous, we'll see SoCs with integrated RAM for every consumer computer. Count on it.
BG wasn't talking about larger capitalism in his "finite greed" comment. He was just deriding media moguls for not trying to take over everything they saw and sticking to a single market. He was insulting them, pure and simple. There's no revisionist history going on in my mind. These days, BillG is just the average robber baron at the end of his life, lamenting that no one will remember him for anything but greed when he passes and trying to give away anough money to change the public's mind.
Yeah. Actually, after I slept and re-read my original post, I figure it's just code for "I want a lot of the OLPC/classmate money that's going to circulating in the next few years."
Anyway, I've said for years that Gates is no different than any of the other robber barons at the end of their lives: they realize that they are going to die and be remembered for their "infinite greed" and desperately try to give away enough money to change that opinion.
Well, Bill Gates is on the record (1995) for deriding other CEOs as having only "finite greed" and not being competitive enough by moving into new markets. Odd that he would call for "kinder capitalism."
Exactly what I was thinking. With 10 million subscribers, the monthly revenue has to be near USD100 million. That kind of money, even counting against it server and maintenance costs, has to be able to fund REAL advances in the game, which, if WoW wants to continue to be top dog in the future, should be rolled out to all subscribers for free.
Why would you do anything else, risking pissing off or boring your players and losing that gravy train?
WoW is dead once WoS comes out, at least here in Korea. ;)
From SIPs RFC3261: Whereas Jabber's RFC3920 states: and RFC3921 says: I stand by my statement that this doesn't really look like "hedging bets."
SIP is pretty much a VOIP thing (though I guess it can be used for text chat), so I don't see how this conflicts with Jabber (except through Jingle, but they're not exactly the same thing). I doesn't look like "hedging their bets" -- more like they're planning on doing more VOIP in the future.
If the walls of IM fall, Skype will be next.
My father took me to his FAA office to show me Star Trek on the (I'm guessing) mainframe there when I was probably in fourth or fifth grade, so maybe it was 1977. In fifth grade, I routinely took ALL my allowance on Saturday and spent it at the mall arcade playing whatever they had. My favorites form the time were the physics-based line-graphics games like lunar lander and another space one which involved two ships circling a star. When my friend got Pong, we just sat around and played that.
;)
Then I got my Model I in 1980(?), and spent the next four years trying to program my own games. Oh the joy of a 128×48 display. It made playing text games like Adventure or Hamurabi enjoyable in comparison.
On the subject of WWII, Japan, and "What would you do as President?" --
A couple of years ago I was teaching an especially bright Korean girl who was in seventh grade. When asked what she wanted to be when she grew up, she said that she wanted to be a diplomat or president or something similar. It was an intriguing answer, so I followed up with "Why? How do you want to make the world a different place?"
"I want to use nuclear bombs to destroy all of Japan and kill all the Japanese" was her deadpan answer.
I was slackjawed.
Shhh. Please don't give them any ideas which might actually work!
I'm confused about what you mean here.
- I shot him. This is past tense in the active voice. (shoot/shot/shot)
- He was shot. This is past tense (was) in the passive voice, using the past participle (shoot/shot/shot)
What is a past tense correlated adjective? The past participle is nomally the one used as an adjective (e.g. The man was beaten -> The beaten man).C has gravitated to a 'niche', system level stuff, situations where performance is more important than security ... and Gnome. ;)
This is not the first time I've heard of this, but it is the first time I've thought of the consequences (call me slow...). I used to believe that the incentive to get a site license was that you didn't have to track Windows licenses for each computer, but this stipulation[1] takes that benefit off the pro/con chart completely. Shocking.
[1] That "you have to have a valid retail or OEM license to accompany the PC to begin with."
I don't understand ... what happened to the weeder courses that the CS majors went through when I was in Uni in the 80s? Hell, they tested you with stuff much lower level than C (IIRC, C wasn't even standardized back then). I mean, try doing really complicated stuff in assembly, and you figure out really fast who can think like a programmer and who can't. I never would have passed the weeder courses, but I knew it and went for S.E. instead of C.S.
I don't know a lot about programming as a profession, but teh article feels on target to me.
I think we understand each other. We disagree on some things, but that's OK. Cheers.
You're missing the point, actually. Sure, the lowered piracy and budget impact were important, but they weren't the interesting or useful long-term part. The freedom to modify, to localize, and to produce their own was the part of the equation which promised to create a thriving IT industry based on local demand, which was quite high.
In reality, your "If MS made Windows, and all of the apps that people use, free beer to the Thai people, and continued that until such time as it was reasonable to change it to a pay scenario" was pretty much exactly what happened, but the local industry was still screwed.
Wow. Roland Piquepaille submitted the story, and it doesn't link to some plagiarized copy on his blog. Shocking. Could he have reformed?
I'm not a follower of Stallman. I only know what I see as the result of OSS. The FOSS movement in Thailand when I lived there did real good for the country. OSS gave the country a way out of piracy, putting it back in the good graces of the WTO. The software offered real opportunities for localization so that young people who had never studied English could learn to use a computer without a dictionary. Before the Linux movement there, even adults with the standard, required education had real difficulty using MS Windows. The IT industry began creating software which made them (instead of MS) money. The government saw a way to stop sending the citizens' money overseas for basic operation.
This was all real. This was in stores. There were Linux desktops on sale in every hypermarket. There was local software for these desktops on the shelves.
Then MS came in, and in a back-room agreement with BCAA-style blackmail or who-knows-how-much money as palm grease, reversed the government policy so that it officially supported MS solutions, filled the school with half-asses localized copies for nothing, offered virtually free copies of MS for everyone, and killed the opportunity.
Yeah. I'm bitter about it. I don't put all the blame on MS. The Thai people carry at least half the guilt for selling themselves out for a few free copies of Win98, only to lose them six months later when it was EOLed. Thailand is now in exactly the same situation that it was it eight years ago, without a real IT industry of its own and a center for software piracy. Sure, the fabs are there. The little bit of outsourcing they get continues. That's it, though.
Still, for six months or a year, I saw what could happen. I saw the way it could be. I'll never forget it.
Ultimately, I think it's because the Free sofware movement works best with an agile-type of development. Release early; release often. That doesn't work for games. So much time is spent below the ground floor that there's nothing to release for ages, and there's no buzz developed.
How can you solve this problem? The answer is revolutionary.