"Previously reported was that Fox News Considered Suing Fox's 'The Simpsons' for using a news ticker spoofing the news service. Apparently this was only satire and an apology has been issued.
'Nonetheless, "The Simpsons" (the show, not the characters) issued an apology yesterday: "Matt was being satirical and certainly there was never any issue between the show and Fox News. We regret any confusion.'"
Right, have you ever considered the whole "voting on tuesday, which we don't make a national holiday" is slightly well fscked?
Have you ever considered what would happen if we moved it to a weekend, closing everything but hospitals/police etc, and drafted 2% of the population to count votes (most people would count votes twice in their life).
It works quite well, unfortunately we didn't have the foresight to do this.
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China Outlines Moon Project Goals | Preferences | Top | 244 comments | Search Discussion Threshold: Save: The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way. Re:Stop being so myopic and xenophobic... (Score:3) by fruey (563914) on 12-11-03 10:23 (#7453756) (http://www.mediadev.com/)
Begin counter argument
1) The Europeans can afford the luxury of a welfare state, because they haven't had to defend themselves for the last 50 years. How much more of their GDP would have gone into the armed forces if the US had pulled out of NATO when the Russians had 5,000 tanks and 3,000,000 troops in Eastern Europe?
What? Europeans made a collective, democratic decision to found a welfare state after the second world war. In the USA, being left of centre is bait to all the McCarthyists out there... so nobody openly claims there should be a welfare system. So you have a load of poor people that most white middle class people don't even admit exist. As for the comment about not having had to defend itself... well I'm just at a loss on how you really see the last 50 years of US intervention into other peoples problems as part of what can be seen by some as the gradual establishment of geo-strategic alliances with countries who you leave no choice but to stick with you all the way to the hilt. The UK included.
2) There are ample opportunities for anyone in America to "make it". We don't need a welfare state. Most Americans don't want a welfare state. Your doing exactly what you accuse us of doing -- applying your own standards and morals to our country.
Your opinion is that you don't need it. Maybe you have private insurance. Most Americans don't want to die either, but they might if something happens to them that they can't afford to get fixed.
And yet with our "crumbling school system" we still lead the World with advances in all sorts of Sciences. World leaders come to our country for major medical procedures because they don't trust their own medical systems. Foreign students come to our universities in droves.
Foreign students still see the US as some kind of Eldorado. They all pay dearly for their studies. The US' main tactic is a brain drain away from developing countries and from Europe on the basis of paying high salaries because the schools have more money. Europe decided, generally, that enough was enough regarding competition with the US on money alone, so the gold-digging academics all go over to you. Shame, but that's the reason. Considering the massive population over there, tell me how many of the great scientists and doctors and educators you have are like more than about 3rd generation natives?
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Re:Stop being so myopic and xenophobic... (Score:3)
by Shakrai (717556) on 12-11-03 10:53 (#7454030)
What? Europeans made a collective, democratic decision to found a welfare state after the second world war. In the USA, being left of centre is bait to all the McCarthyists out there...
Have you ever been here? Being left-of-centre (which I am btw -- your speaking to a ACLU card-carrying bonafide liberal) has never gotten me accused of being a Communist. You are just as likely to be insulted for being right-of-centre in certain parts of my country (California and New York co
You don't go "there and back". You go "there" and stay put, sending back cargo in transports constructed on the moon if that's your goal.
The other option is to stay "there" and use it as a base of further exploration. Launching/Landing on the moon is several orders of magnatude easier than launching/landing on Earth.
Why pay for windows when linux comes free on a cheeper computer?
It's really a question of who is going to streamline it first, not weither it's going to be streamlined.
The energy to push a transition is building up, I'm feeling it from dozens of people who aren't linux fanboys. To pretend it isn't there because linux hasn't been marketed to the masses yet is slightly shortsighted.
I'm at a hospital that intends to move 3000 machines to "some alternative" (basically the options at the moment are linux and linux) inside the next 5 years.
We intend to replace a great deal of our server room as well.
The people who communicate with us will need to support our formats, people with larger contracts will be told to ditch Excel.
This particular hospital used to have a MS site license for Windows + Office on every machine here. It's only a matter of time before even more places do this.
Also, I've seen three companies switch to be mostly Mac based in the past year.
Yes well, microsoft has had a "monopoly" for almost 8 hears now. (they had a lot of market share before that, but it wasn't unthinkable to get alternatives as late as 1994)
There shouldn't be a pretty interface, it should be integrated with the file transfer metaphor and not thought about.
CD burning is just the moving of files (several at a time), there is no reason it needs a special interface at all.
Cause you know, there is no way people could influence internal politics and make him rescind his earlier (most likely accurate) statements.
If nothing happened, why is there a rule against him doing it again? It's a bit suspicious. Such rules don't end up in corperate policies easily.
Yes, that is exactly what the president would say on the eve of the first consession.
In this case, the judicial system is supposed to step in. Rigged elections are the downfall of democracy, and they tend to be hard to fight.
"Previously reported was that Fox News Considered Suing Fox's 'The Simpsons' for using a news ticker spoofing the news service. Apparently this was only satire and an apology has been issued.
'Nonetheless, "The Simpsons" (the show, not the characters) issued an apology yesterday: "Matt was being satirical and certainly there was never any issue between the show and Fox News. We regret any confusion.'"
Does anyone really believe that?
You can make water, it's not that complex. The hardest part would be your inital few months while you got water/air production set up.
I am willing to bet however, the reason the moon gets colonized is political (ie a new country forming) rather than economic.
Right, have you ever considered the whole "voting on tuesday, which we don't make a national holiday" is slightly well fscked?
Have you ever considered what would happen if we moved it to a weekend, closing everything but hospitals/police etc, and drafted 2% of the population to count votes (most people would count votes twice in their life).
It works quite well, unfortunately we didn't have the foresight to do this.
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Re:Stop being so myopic and xenophobic... (Score:3)
by fruey (563914) on 12-11-03 10:23 (#7453756)
(http://www.mediadev.com/)
Begin counter argument
1) The Europeans can afford the luxury of a welfare state, because they haven't had to defend themselves for the last 50 years. How much more of their GDP would have gone into the armed forces if the US had pulled out of NATO when the Russians had 5,000 tanks and 3,000,000 troops in Eastern Europe?
What? Europeans made a collective, democratic decision to found a welfare state after the second world war. In the USA, being left of centre is bait to all the McCarthyists out there... so nobody openly claims there should be a welfare system. So you have a load of poor people that most white middle class people don't even admit exist. As for the comment about not having had to defend itself... well I'm just at a loss on how you really see the last 50 years of US intervention into other peoples problems as part of what can be seen by some as the gradual establishment of geo-strategic alliances with countries who you leave no choice but to stick with you all the way to the hilt. The UK included.
2) There are ample opportunities for anyone in America to "make it". We don't need a welfare state. Most Americans don't want a welfare state. Your doing exactly what you accuse us of doing -- applying your own standards and morals to our country.
Your opinion is that you don't need it. Maybe you have private insurance. Most Americans don't want to die either, but they might if something happens to them that they can't afford to get fixed.
And yet with our "crumbling school system" we still lead the World with advances in all sorts of Sciences. World leaders come to our country for major medical procedures because they don't trust their own medical systems. Foreign students come to our universities in droves.
Foreign students still see the US as some kind of Eldorado. They all pay dearly for their studies. The US' main tactic is a brain drain away from developing countries and from Europe on the basis of paying high salaries because the schools have more money. Europe decided, generally, that enough was enough regarding competition with the US on money alone, so the gold-digging academics all go over to you. Shame, but that's the reason. Considering the massive population over there, tell me how many of the great scientists and doctors and educators you have are like more than about 3rd generation natives?
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Re:Stop being so myopic and xenophobic... (Score:3)
by Shakrai (717556) on 12-11-03 10:53 (#7454030)
What? Europeans made a collective, democratic decision to found a welfare state after the second world war. In the USA, being left of centre is bait to all the McCarthyists out there...
Have you ever been here? Being left-of-centre (which I am btw -- your speaking to a ACLU card-carrying bonafide liberal) has never gotten me accused of being a Communist. You are just as likely to be insulted for being right-of-centre in certain parts of my country (California and New York co
You can construct rocket fuel from lunar soil.
You can construct vehicles from lunar soil.
You can make water from lunar soil.
You can make air from lunar soil.
You don't go "there and back". You go "there" and stay put, sending back cargo in transports constructed on the moon if that's your goal.
The other option is to stay "there" and use it as a base of further exploration. Launching/Landing on the moon is several orders of magnatude easier than launching/landing on Earth.
Right, when you rejoin the rest of us in the real world let me know m'kay?
Neo wasn't dead, he wouldn't have glowed like that.
I think they used him to seed the new matrix.
Ours will (an inside source has informed me), but they have not started selling tickets to the public.
It is already sold out.
They missed a major money making opportunity, I'd gladly pay $100 to see that.
iDVD is not a part of the OS, what sort of smot are you poking?
You have to make the votes unreadable except by the machine though, one doesn't have the right to sell their vote either.
I dono, I keep going back to google because it keeps finding the results the first time.
I don't know about anyone else...
You can get them to open the source by asking.
It does wonders sometimes.
And for each byte of page load they add, they loose a fraction of marketshare.
Shareholders would have a hard time winning this one.
Why are you still using IE?
I agree with the like poetry comment.
Mod this up!
And people said FreeNet would never find a use.
I must admit however, I never thought the draconian goverment argument I used against them would ever apply to our own voting system.
Except we can easily and cheaply construct our mars vessel in low earth orbit.
Other than that I can't think of many reasons...
*sigh*
Why pay for windows when linux comes free on a cheeper computer?
It's really a question of who is going to streamline it first, not weither it's going to be streamlined.
The energy to push a transition is building up, I'm feeling it from dozens of people who aren't linux fanboys. To pretend it isn't there because linux hasn't been marketed to the masses yet is slightly shortsighted.
I'm at a hospital that intends to move 3000 machines to "some alternative" (basically the options at the moment are linux and linux) inside the next 5 years.
We intend to replace a great deal of our server room as well.
The people who communicate with us will need to support our formats, people with larger contracts will be told to ditch Excel.
This particular hospital used to have a MS site license for Windows + Office on every machine here. It's only a matter of time before even more places do this.
Also, I've seen three companies switch to be mostly Mac based in the past year.
Yes well, microsoft has had a "monopoly" for almost 8 hears now. (they had a lot of market share before that, but it wasn't unthinkable to get alternatives as late as 1994)
There is no way they could ever be couped!
It's impossible, such a long history behind them!
Yeah right... I love short sighted people.
By the time longhorn is released, I doubt they have as strong a chokehold on the market they enjoy now.
But only time will tell.
I just know every company I come in contact with is looking for ways to ditch quite a few windows machines, they cost too damn much.