I use OmniWeb, thanks. If you configure it to identify as Internet Explorer, nearly every site will work just fine. However, if you leave it and let itself identify as OmniWeb, then you're denied all over the place.
Polling user agents out of the server logs is inaccurate, especially on a site like this.
I, personally, think the FreeBSD Packages/Port system is damn near perfect from a user/sysadmin standpoint.
I've tried fink, and it seem terribly unintuitive and clunky to me, and I don't really use it, prefering to get packages from macosx.forked.net, because they just install, and I don't have to screw with funky menus that don't work simply, and I don't have to hunt for fink packages that aren't in my menu, even though I grabbed the latest list.
Sure, I could spend the time to figure fink out and get it working properly. Hell, I could be using netcat to write this comment, but I'm not going to.
People who actually need to get stuff done, need intuitive and simple tools. Fink and the like are fine for home hackers/users, but when you need to get stuff done, fink doesn't cut it, I'm sorry.
FreeBSD Ports/Packages is very simple, and easy to use, and gets the job done well. It's probably the main reason I use FreeBSD servers (aside from the insane levels of stability).
I can understand Jordan wanting to move above and beyond, I just ask that he keep things simple and intuitive. Something I can get around in with a small, half-page cheat sheet.
Locked up during the "Optimizing OS X" portion of the install. Cursor moved, but no apps responded. I almost expected this, as I read about install lockups with tibook users. I was not immune.
Powered off, and rebooted. Ran 'sudo update_prebinding -root', which is what "Optimizing OS X" usually means. Seems to work like a champ, now. I notice a little speed increase.
% uname -a Darwin neptune.sps.lane.edu 5.3 Darwin Kernel Version 5.3: Thu Jan 24 22:06:02 PST 2002; root:xnu/xnu-201.19.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc
> If an ISP decided to block sites they did not like, would that not be censorship? They are not a government, it is their "fucking computer", so by your argument it is not censorship. You seem to have government censorship and censorship in general confused.
Yes, that's censorship. Again, an ISP is not a citizen. An ISP's server is not an individual's computer.
There is no burden on a citizen that requires them to participate in Peek-A-Booty, which is my whole point. There is no burden that a citizen must provide all of their available resources for public use in America.
As I said before, I am not against Peek-A-Booty, it's just something I would not participate in, because it does not align with my ethics (concerning helping pedophiles). This is not oppression, this is an individual's personal freedom in effect.
You seem to carry the misconception that my not participating in this program means I am somehow actively blocking them from accessing their destinations. This is completely wrong. I am merely choosing not to allow my personal equipment be used as an avenue for them.
Using your argument, I'd be oppressing people if I didn't have CAT5 cables running from my DSL equipment out to the curb for general citizen use. It's the same thing.
To force citizens to participate in ideologies they wish to take no part of is against freedom and oppression in itself.
You need to make the distinction between the rights of a person, and that of governments and corporations.
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And I respect your opinion.
As obvious, the opinions I voice are merely my own. While my ethics do not align exactly with law, I have a particular distaste for sexual predators and child molestors, and it's a great enough issue that I do not want to potentially help them.
I'd like to also clarify my "I'd be much more interested in running Peek-A-Booty if it had some sort of information-type limiting" comment. I meant this at the participant-level, and not a network-wide level. Some sort of mechanism where the participant has the freedom to disallow his resources to be used for certain ideologies of which he does not want to take part.
But again, this goes against the entire Peek-A-Booty concept, and I may even be alarmist.
The proxy idea works great for me, and my proxy server hasn't been firewalled from China as of yet.
I get a significant amount of traffic from China, and they seem to look at a lot of democracy-oriented and (non-child) porn sites from the rare times I've taken a glance at the traffic.
Please note, I am all for this project, and not against it in the least. I merely have some concerns.
>Yeah! It horrible that a government should tell people what is right and wrong to look at, but it's fine when I tell them!
>Why is it right to censor kiddie porn but not other things? You are not really against censorship if you believe that it is, you just disagree with what should be censored.
Because, it's my fucking computer. The government has nothing to do with my computer or my decisions not support something. You seem to have people and government confused.
Your argument is ridiculous. Would you give a neo-nazi group, or perhaps a coprophiliac web space on your server? Probably not.
A person is not a government. A person can exercise their freedom of choice, and their opinions, and my opinion is that I simply do not want to support some causes. I am not oppressing them by not supporting them.
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While the aims and goals of this project are commendable, I can't help but think that this program will be utilized moreso by old men wanting to look at kiddie porn safely, than those in oppressed countries.
One can simply see this trend with the GNUtella network, and monitoring the search strings people send out. They're full of stuff such as "hairless pre-teen sex" and "dogs fucking women".
I'd be much more interested in running Peek-A-Booty if it had some sort of information-type limiting, but this would go against the whole basic concept of the program. I'd be glad to assist those who are oppressed, but WILL NOT help sexual predators and the like.
Maybe people who want to help those in oppressive countries should throw up rogue squid proxy servers with bandwidth rate limiting and perhaps some client access limiting (*.cn, *.ru, and soon, *.us). This is what I do and it works quite well.
I don't even advertise it, but quite a few people find it and use it (mostly people in southeast asia, actually)
Actually, I do have dual displays. I have an external monitor connected to my g4 tibook, and have video spanning turned on. However, in times of crisis, I'm usually sitting in a nook somewhere in a machine room with my laptop on my lap.
If Katz would've posted it, I imagine most of the Slashdot community would've have seen it, because they have his stories ignored in their preferences.
I'm not a big Linux fan either, and I use FreeBSD and OS X exclusively. I don't see why more than.09% of the G4 users out there would want to run Linux on their systems. But I don't see how this can possibly hurt OS X or the Macintosh line. If anything, it fosters a greater understanding of the underlying hardware.
While porting Linux to your iMac, toaster, toilet, whatever may not be practical, if anything it fosters a greater understanding of the system in question. It's even good for a moment's chuckle.
I'm sure the people working on this weren't sitting in dark little dens, fueled by Satan, with hopes of crushing OS X.
If anything, Linux and OS X will benefit each other. Mainstream vendors will again see the value in the UNIX operating systems, and be more open to Linux and *BSD. The mainstreamness of OS X will encourage more people to become hackers, and they will possibly work with Linux, or start a project than benefits Linux.
You can at least stop phone solicitors from calling you in Oregon now.
You go to http://www.ornocall.com and pay ~$6.50 to get on a list that gets published quaterly. If a solicitor calls you, they get a hefty fine.
Note, that the calls will stop, depending on when you register. I registered in December and made it onto the January 2002 list.
Where I literally used to get 3-4 phone solicitor calls a night, I now get absolutely no calls whatsoever (In fact, I'm begging for someone to call, so I can fry their ass).
It works well, and while it's crap that I have to pay to get phone solicitors to stop, it's a step in the right direction. Besides a $6.50 fee, with an annual renewal fee of $3.00 isn't so bad.
Also note, that while that web address is a.com, they are being contracted by the Oregon state government to do this.
Ebooks suck, I do not like them, especially when I'm working on a downed server and have 4 Terminal.app's open, and I have to find a spot for Acrobat to fit.
I'd like to see:
- More books with the flexible bindings (ala Oreilly). Books that don't lay flat suck.
- More "Cookbook" style books, as long as they are truly thorough and diverse (see Perl Cookbook for a good example).
Essentially, system engineers like to see short code snippets of how to accomplish odd tasks in a quick, easy manner. Again, when stuff's broken, or data needs to be pulled pronto, I'm not going to wade through man pages, etc.
- I don't favor the Nutshell style books, they're usually poorly organized and don't comprise enough of the "right" information.
- More quality assurance. Too many books these days are rushed out to market way too quickly. I'd rather buy a book that's good quality, rather than "quickest out". Most of us customers read Amazon.com reviews to get an idea of what books to buy on a particular subject. Keep that in mind.
- Topics I'd like to see? more advanced-level BSD stuff, more kernel hacking stuff, LDAP, you can never have too many Perl books. Think about stuff your target audience would love to see. Oreilly is great for doing this, see: "CGI Programming with Perl", "Perl for System Administration", etc
Sorry, but your suggestion sounds really retarded. Ditch C# for Python?
That ought to be a big speed boost, and open the game to the many Windows users who would probably be using this (seeing as the author wants to do it in C#).
I suppose the author was foolish to begin with. Who in their right mind would ask a question about using Microsoft technology on Slashdot?
Since the ad placements don't work, they're now going to enemies sporting apparel and mugs with merchandise advertisements on them, and random popup ads that you have to shoot thrice to get rid of.
Better hope one doesn't pop up during the boss level...
Apple has already quickly adapted, by adopting industry-standard technologies, sans of course your blessed x86 platform. But who in their right mind likes working with the pile of shit that is the Intel platform?
Apple is less closed than Microsoft. No one says Company X can't go out there and build a PPC system. Hell, people have gotten OS X to run on a few old Power Computing (non-Apple) computers.
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I use OmniWeb, thanks. If you configure it to identify as Internet Explorer, nearly every site will work just fine. However, if you leave it and let itself identify as OmniWeb, then you're denied all over the place.
Polling user agents out of the server logs is inaccurate, especially on a site like this.
I, personally, think the FreeBSD Packages/Port system is damn near perfect from a user/sysadmin standpoint.
I've tried fink, and it seem terribly unintuitive and clunky to me, and I don't really use it, prefering to get packages from macosx.forked.net, because they just install, and I don't have to screw with funky menus that don't work simply, and I don't have to hunt for fink packages that aren't in my menu, even though I grabbed the latest list.
Sure, I could spend the time to figure fink out and get it working properly. Hell, I could be using netcat to write this comment, but I'm not going to.
People who actually need to get stuff done, need intuitive and simple tools. Fink and the like are fine for home hackers/users, but when you need to get stuff done, fink doesn't cut it, I'm sorry.
FreeBSD Ports/Packages is very simple, and easy to use, and gets the job done well. It's probably the main reason I use FreeBSD servers (aside from the insane levels of stability).
I can understand Jordan wanting to move above and beyond, I just ask that he keep things simple and intuitive. Something I can get around in with a small, half-page cheat sheet.
My entire lunch hour, 40 minutes of which was no disk activity.
If you didn't know, update_prebindings causes quite a bit of disk activity.
Locked up during the "Optimizing OS X" portion of the install. Cursor moved, but no apps responded. I almost expected this, as I read about install lockups with tibook users. I was not immune.
Powered off, and rebooted. Ran 'sudo update_prebinding -root', which is what "Optimizing OS X" usually means. Seems to work like a champ, now. I notice a little speed increase.
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Darwin neptune.sps.lane.edu 5.3 Darwin Kernel Version 5.3: Thu Jan 24 22:06:02 PST 2002; root:xnu/xnu-201.19.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc
> If an ISP decided to block sites they did not like, would that not be censorship? They are not a government, it is their "fucking computer", so by your argument it is not censorship. You seem to have government censorship and censorship in general confused.
Yes, that's censorship. Again, an ISP is not a citizen. An ISP's server is not an individual's computer.
There is no burden on a citizen that requires them to participate in Peek-A-Booty, which is my whole point. There is no burden that a citizen must provide all of their available resources for public use in America.
As I said before, I am not against Peek-A-Booty, it's just something I would not participate in, because it does not align with my ethics (concerning helping pedophiles). This is not oppression, this is an individual's personal freedom in effect.
You seem to carry the misconception that my not participating in this program means I am somehow actively blocking them from accessing their destinations. This is completely wrong. I am merely choosing not to allow my personal equipment be used as an avenue for them.
Using your argument, I'd be oppressing people if I didn't have CAT5 cables running from my DSL equipment out to the curb for general citizen use. It's the same thing.
To force citizens to participate in ideologies they wish to take no part of is against freedom and oppression in itself.
You need to make the distinction between the rights of a person, and that of governments and corporations.
And I respect your opinion.
As obvious, the opinions I voice are merely my own. While my ethics do not align exactly with law, I have a particular distaste for sexual predators and child molestors, and it's a great enough issue that I do not want to potentially help them.
I'd like to also clarify my "I'd be much more interested in running Peek-A-Booty if it had some sort of information-type limiting" comment. I meant this at the participant-level, and not a network-wide level. Some sort of mechanism where the participant has the freedom to disallow his resources to be used for certain ideologies of which he does not want to take part.
But again, this goes against the entire Peek-A-Booty concept, and I may even be alarmist.
The proxy idea works great for me, and my proxy server hasn't been firewalled from China as of yet.
I get a significant amount of traffic from China, and they seem to look at a lot of democracy-oriented and (non-child) porn sites from the rare times I've taken a glance at the traffic.
Please note, I am all for this project, and not against it in the least. I merely have some concerns.
>Yeah! It horrible that a government should tell people what is right and wrong to look at, but it's fine when I tell them!
>Why is it right to censor kiddie porn but not other things? You are not really against censorship if you believe that it is, you just disagree with what should be censored.
Because, it's my fucking computer. The government has nothing to do with my computer or my decisions not support something. You seem to have people and government confused.
Your argument is ridiculous. Would you give a neo-nazi group, or perhaps a coprophiliac web space on your server? Probably not.
A person is not a government. A person can exercise their freedom of choice, and their opinions, and my opinion is that I simply do not want to support some causes. I am not oppressing them by not supporting them.
While the aims and goals of this project are commendable, I can't help but think that this program will be utilized moreso by old men wanting to look at kiddie porn safely, than those in oppressed countries.
One can simply see this trend with the GNUtella network, and monitoring the search strings people send out. They're full of stuff such as "hairless pre-teen sex" and "dogs fucking women".
I'd be much more interested in running Peek-A-Booty if it had some sort of information-type limiting, but this would go against the whole basic concept of the program. I'd be glad to assist those who are oppressed, but WILL NOT help sexual predators and the like.
Maybe people who want to help those in oppressive countries should throw up rogue squid proxy servers with bandwidth rate limiting and perhaps some client access limiting (*.cn, *.ru, and soon, *.us). This is what I do and it works quite well.
I don't even advertise it, but quite a few people find it and use it (mostly people in southeast asia, actually)
Actually, I do have dual displays. I have an external monitor connected to my g4 tibook, and have video spanning turned on. However, in times of crisis, I'm usually sitting in a nook somewhere in a machine room with my laptop on my lap.
If Katz would've posted it, I imagine most of the Slashdot community would've have seen it, because they have his stories ignored in their preferences.
Oh, and congrats.
I'm saying most win32 users don't want/care to install Python on their machines. I thought that was obvious.
I'm not a big Linux fan either, and I use FreeBSD and OS X exclusively. I don't see why more than .09% of the G4 users out there would want to run Linux on their systems. But I don't see how this can possibly hurt OS X or the Macintosh line. If anything, it fosters a greater understanding of the underlying hardware.
While porting Linux to your iMac, toaster, toilet, whatever may not be practical, if anything it fosters a greater understanding of the system in question. It's even good for a moment's chuckle.
I'm sure the people working on this weren't sitting in dark little dens, fueled by Satan, with hopes of crushing OS X.
If anything, Linux and OS X will benefit each other. Mainstream vendors will again see the value in the UNIX operating systems, and be more open to Linux and *BSD. The mainstreamness of OS X will encourage more people to become hackers, and they will possibly work with Linux, or start a project than benefits Linux.
You can at least stop phone solicitors from calling you in Oregon now.
.com, they are being contracted by the Oregon state government to do this.
You go to http://www.ornocall.com and pay ~$6.50 to get on a list that gets published quaterly. If a solicitor calls you, they get a hefty fine.
Note, that the calls will stop, depending on when you register. I registered in December and made it onto the January 2002 list.
Where I literally used to get 3-4 phone solicitor calls a night, I now get absolutely no calls whatsoever (In fact, I'm begging for someone to call, so I can fry their ass).
It works well, and while it's crap that I have to pay to get phone solicitors to stop, it's a step in the right direction. Besides a $6.50 fee, with an annual renewal fee of $3.00 isn't so bad.
Also note, that while that web address is a
Ebooks suck, I do not like them, especially when I'm working on a downed server and have 4 Terminal.app's open, and I have to find a spot for Acrobat to fit.
I'd like to see:
- More books with the flexible bindings (ala Oreilly). Books that don't lay flat suck.
- More "Cookbook" style books, as long as they are truly thorough and diverse (see Perl Cookbook for a good example).
Essentially, system engineers like to see short code snippets of how to accomplish odd tasks in a quick, easy manner. Again, when stuff's broken, or data needs to be pulled pronto, I'm not going to wade through man pages, etc.
- I don't favor the Nutshell style books, they're usually poorly organized and don't comprise enough of the "right" information.
- More quality assurance. Too many books these days are rushed out to market way too quickly. I'd rather buy a book that's good quality, rather than "quickest out". Most of us customers read Amazon.com reviews to get an idea of what books to buy on a particular subject. Keep that in mind.
- Topics I'd like to see? more advanced-level BSD stuff, more kernel hacking stuff, LDAP, you can never have too many Perl books. Think about stuff your target audience would love to see. Oreilly is great for doing this, see: "CGI Programming with Perl", "Perl for System Administration", etc
Sure, mod me as a troll.
Sorry, but your suggestion sounds really retarded. Ditch C# for Python?
That ought to be a big speed boost, and open the game to the many Windows users who would probably be using this (seeing as the author wants to do it in C#).
I suppose the author was foolish to begin with. Who in their right mind would ask a question about using Microsoft technology on Slashdot?
Since the ad placements don't work, they're now going to enemies sporting apparel and mugs with merchandise advertisements on them, and random popup ads that you have to shoot thrice to get rid of.
Better hope one doesn't pop up during the boss level...
This is a shite idea.
It just pollutes the web with another website offering the same type of advice as a "legitimate" scam site, further substantiating the actual scams.
That's all that needs to be said on this.
Proprietary Apple hardware?
PCI? open.
USB? open.
Firewire? open.
VGA? open.
PowerPC? open.
ATI/nVidia Graphics? open.
Apple has already quickly adapted, by adopting industry-standard technologies, sans of course your blessed x86 platform. But who in their right mind likes working with the pile of shit that is the Intel platform?
Apple is less closed than Microsoft. No one says Company X can't go out there and build a PPC system. Hell, people have gotten OS X to run on a few old Power Computing (non-Apple) computers.
Out of curiousity, do you run OS X or FreeBSD on your "main" workstation these days?
Beginning Linux Programming by the same folks who wrote this book, Wrox Press.
Beginning Linux Programming could be considered Vol. I, and it covers all sorts of nifty little items, such as Makefiles, libs, headers, etc.
BTW, it's useful for UNIX in general, not just linux. I figure they used the word "Linux" in the title in the hopes of selling more copies.
Christ...
In the BSD world, we not only have the ports collection, we have the packages collection, too. So there's no need to compile everything from ports :-)
In fact, the BSD world seems largely annoyed at these folks.
I personally don't see the reasons for this project, other than political. However, this is the beauty of the freedom of the BSD license.
Actually, China is a communist government. Which isn't fascism.
1.) The only way people will care/notice is if it's cost-beneficial.
2.) Before opening your mouth and initiating a complete redesign of the IT department, see where the worker's capabilities and expertise lie.
Sure, open source is free, blah blah blah, but that doesn't take into account the administrative costs and training.
Open source isn't the answer to everything. ESPECIALLY Linux.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"