There is nothing whatsoever stopping the UN from making its own root servers and telling everyone to use them; they will be ignored, but that's not US's fault.
The EU does not want a single country to control the root servers anymore. The EU (with the support of most developing nations) is now moving to get the root servers under control of an independent organisation which will be under the UN umbrella. The EU of course wants the change to happen with agreement with all parties, but the EU will not accept the current situation anymore and will go ahead even if the US does not join. And if you follow the debates, most of the world will use the new root servers that will be offered by the UN. Maybe finally the EU will be able to get the.eu domain that ICANN so foolishly have not granted them.
You still don't get it. In many countries Hamas is not looked upon as a terrorist organization. Who is defining Hamas to be a terrorist organization, and why does it have anything to do with the domains for Iraq? Answer this simple question.
Iraq doesn't have to go anywhere. They have their domain under their control. The REASON why ICANN was reluctant was because the domain was previously part of an elaborate terrorist funding affair. You'd be reluctant to turn it back too, if you previously had to sieze it because of terrorist funding.
Who is making the definition of "terrorist funding affair" above? Is it the right of the US or a US company to define when the internet should be about free speech or when speech should be silent because it is from a "terrorist"?
Besides, so the Iraqis had to register through a foreign company. Big whoop. At least they could. Under current Iraqi regulations, private citizens are NOT allowed to have.Iq domains. Great freedom that is, eh?
So the ICANN should judge the laws of the land they give domains to? Because the argument seems to be that a country should not have the right over a domain if its citizens is not living under freedom whatever arbitrary way that is defined in the US at the current moment.
There seems that our American cousins are quite confused about its role and power in the world. I guess that is natural since the US has had a few good decades economically and scientifically after the second world war for obvious reasons. But the problem is, being a economical power does not mean that money just continues to pour in from abroad since it did this in the decade before. And scientific lead is not maintained by attacking your own scientist or politicising science itself. Similarly, a mighty military does not mean that one can invade any country one wants without paying the price.
These things should be obvious, but does not seem to be. Worse is that the current crop of politicians in Washington does not seem to be able to grasp these simple truths.
Similarly, when the internet became an international phenomena, it no longer is under the control of the US congress. This is maybe seen as something strange inside the borders of the US, but again just think a bit broader. So it is not for the US State Department to say what is acceptable and unacceptable, even though they have the right of their own opinion like any other country in the world. ICANN also have every right (in the world so to say) to fight for their privilege position, with or without of the help of US politicians, but this privilege is given them by the international community and can therefor be retracted by the same community. That ICANN has this privilege for historical reasons does not, as all the other examples above, prove that it will have these privileges in the future. Not to hard to grasp, is it?
Now, you can of course say that the US can just say no and keep the internet for themselves. Well, that is fine of course, but then the international community will either accept this or will make their own solutions. And the EU have not had problems in the past to make their own solutions and will probably do the same this time if the US slows the process down too much. Because it seems to be clear that the international community always would want something as important for their own economy and information flow to be under an independent governing body not controlled by any one country, especially not countries they see as hostile to themselves or who seems to not have the necessary skills. I guess the reason the international community is pressing ahead with this natural evolution of the internet at this point of time, is to no small degree due to the current incompetence in the political leaders in the US.
Also, the UN have an established bureaucracy that are already involved in similar tasks as the governing of an international entity like the internet. The UN of course is nothing more or less than the international community agrees to let it be, and in this case the international community agrees that the internet is important for everyone and therefor should be well run. Our American friends should not think that other countries are as naive as them. China knows perfectly well that it cannot control the flow of information on the internet, and there is no reason to believe that China will try to do something foolish as that who ever is governing the internet. Of course, China will probably still be under communist rule for a while and one thing they will do is to control the information inside their country, and the great firewall will still be there whoever is running the internet. But the Chinese leaders are no fools and have shown themselves to be very much the capitalist willing to use any tool to make their economy run smoother.
If I dare giving advice to our US friends, I would say that it would be a much better tactic for the US to get back some politicians, Republican or Democrat or whatever, who understand how the world works. You had some hard hitting realists back in the cold war, Europeans miss those guys even though we did not see eye-to-eye with their politics usually. It does not seem the tactic of playing the spoiled brat in the neighbourhood these last years have gotten much advantag
This is a really important point. These days the big media companies make huge piles of money since it is so cheap to copy a product. They just need to have the master tape and can make unlimited copies of CD's or DVD's at almost no cost. So how do these multinational companies responde? They try to limit your ability to make use of this new technology to make necessary backup copies and a copy for your car, by introducing copyprotection and using scare tactics, with so-called copyright pirates being the main excuse. Similarly, these companies make huge amount of money since the world markets are more open and developed, due to the technological advances in travel. How do they respond? They try to take away your advantages of a global economy by making DVD's regional. I guess they must be gutted they didn't think about this before introducing the CD.
It seems like whatever technological advantages that are coming along, the big multinational media companies want to try to limit your individual right to use it, so they can be free to use it to make more money for themselves.
Enrico Fermi was an Italian physicist who got his education in Italy. Fermi left Italy for University of Chicago because of Mussolini. Will the next Fermi leave the US because of Bush?
But the big question, in my mind, is "what comes next?" We weren't there to observe the previous cycles; sure, we know they happened but we don't completely understand why. Have we broken the cycle or just given it a little kick? Will current global warming lead to another mini-ice age?
I guess the best way to get some answers to these questions is by not sabotaging the climate scientist trying to find out. It might be unconvinent for some spine-less politicians that climate scientists have shown the current rapid climate change is human made. But the immoral games these politicians are playing with facts are damaging the search to answer questions like the ones you just posed. While scientist are now starting the crucial next step to look for way to deal with the climate change, the ignorent general public in some countries still think that the current global warming is not caused by our societes over-use of oil based fuels.
I visited Grenoble in the French Alps where they had the winter olympics in 1968. They still have some of the facilities there that they used in 1968, like the ski jump etc, but they don't have snow that low in the winter anymore to use any of them! The climate change has made what was a sure place to run the olympics 37 years ago into a place where you don't get any snow in the winter...
If you look at rich people in the USA today, almost all of them inherited the money from their daddy. I don't care if that gives me or liberals a bad name.
Wow, social darwinism is so 19th century! I guess is natural for a society with so many homeless people to assume they genetically deserves to live in the gutter. It is a comforting thought.
How about, children born poor in your many ghettos have not a chance to get a propper education in the US these days, however many Einstein genes they have. Whatever happened to the American dream? You have a class society that is worse than Europe has seen since the days those kings had real power, where the rich are getting richer and richer with their inherent wealth (look at the failed business man GWB). At the same time the middle class has to pay a larger and larger part of the real tax burden, while getting less back for their money in health care and public education. And of course, only the filthy rich have access to political power. Way to go, you are on the right path.
In my professional experience, Michael Mann's "hockey stick" closed source drama has played on too long, too dismissively, too evasively to be an honest scientific discourse.
Mann's hockey stick was published in Nature -- the most prestigeous scientific journal in the world -- because it was an excellent work showing how man made so-called climate gases influence our climate. Who are you kidding anyway, you don't have any professional experience.
Thanks for explaining this to us mr. Big-Shot-Climate-Scientist. But the hockey stick graph shows that Climate change is caused by humans; that is the number one reason why this spinless congressman is ordered to discredit these scientist by big oil.
So, how many articles to Nature have you published, mr. Expert?
The GOP is a in a sad state these days, but at least one Republican has some moral backbone in this story; Rep. Sherwood Boehlert at least recognice McCarthyism when he sees it.
"purpose seems to be to intimidate scientists rather than to learn from them, and to substitute Congressional political review for scientific peer review."
It will takes years before the EU commission can get a new software patents law to the EU parliament. The EU bureaucracy is slow (since it has to negotiate between so many different countries). They will probably try, but for now, the EU is safe for at least two-three years before the fight has to be fought again.
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The EU does not want a single country to control the root servers anymore. The EU (with the support of most developing nations) is now moving to get the root servers under control of an independent organisation which will be under the UN umbrella. The EU of course wants the change to happen with agreement with all parties, but the EU will not accept the current situation anymore and will go ahead even if the US does not join. And if you follow the debates, most of the world will use the new root servers that will be offered by the UN. Maybe finally the EU will be able to get the .eu domain that ICANN so foolishly have not granted them.
I think that is supposed to be the "nuculur option" ...
You hit the nail on the head. This is the reason the US should not control the internets.
You still don't get it. In many countries Hamas is not looked upon as a terrorist organization. Who is defining Hamas to be a terrorist organization, and why does it have anything to do with the domains for Iraq? Answer this simple question.
You keep telling yourself that.
--George W.
Who is making the definition of "terrorist funding affair" above? Is it the right of the US or a US company to define when the internet should be about free speech or when speech should be silent because it is from a "terrorist"?
So the ICANN should judge the laws of the land they give domains to? Because the argument seems to be that a country should not have the right over a domain if its citizens is not living under freedom whatever arbitrary way that is defined in the US at the current moment.
These things should be obvious, but does not seem to be. Worse is that the current crop of politicians in Washington does not seem to be able to grasp these simple truths.
Similarly, when the internet became an international phenomena, it no longer is under the control of the US congress. This is maybe seen as something strange inside the borders of the US, but again just think a bit broader. So it is not for the US State Department to say what is acceptable and unacceptable, even though they have the right of their own opinion like any other country in the world. ICANN also have every right (in the world so to say) to fight for their privilege position, with or without of the help of US politicians, but this privilege is given them by the international community and can therefor be retracted by the same community. That ICANN has this privilege for historical reasons does not, as all the other examples above, prove that it will have these privileges in the future. Not to hard to grasp, is it?
Now, you can of course say that the US can just say no and keep the internet for themselves. Well, that is fine of course, but then the international community will either accept this or will make their own solutions. And the EU have not had problems in the past to make their own solutions and will probably do the same this time if the US slows the process down too much. Because it seems to be clear that the international community always would want something as important for their own economy and information flow to be under an independent governing body not controlled by any one country, especially not countries they see as hostile to themselves or who seems to not have the necessary skills. I guess the reason the international community is pressing ahead with this natural evolution of the internet at this point of time, is to no small degree due to the current incompetence in the political leaders in the US.
Also, the UN have an established bureaucracy that are already involved in similar tasks as the governing of an international entity like the internet. The UN of course is nothing more or less than the international community agrees to let it be, and in this case the international community agrees that the internet is important for everyone and therefor should be well run. Our American friends should not think that other countries are as naive as them. China knows perfectly well that it cannot control the flow of information on the internet, and there is no reason to believe that China will try to do something foolish as that who ever is governing the internet. Of course, China will probably still be under communist rule for a while and one thing they will do is to control the information inside their country, and the great firewall will still be there whoever is running the internet. But the Chinese leaders are no fools and have shown themselves to be very much the capitalist willing to use any tool to make their economy run smoother.
If I dare giving advice to our US friends, I would say that it would be a much better tactic for the US to get back some politicians, Republican or Democrat or whatever, who understand how the world works. You had some hard hitting realists back in the cold war, Europeans miss those guys even though we did not see eye-to-eye with their politics usually. It does not seem the tactic of playing the spoiled brat in the neighbourhood these last years have gotten much advantag
Right, so I have to buy Windows XP to be able to play their game. Not much chance.
You can play ogg on the players of Jens. Check out their page.
ABC news has an interesting article.
American workers should follow the example of the POTUS. The work ethics of Bush should get productivity up...
It seems like whatever technological advantages that are coming along, the big multinational media companies want to try to limit your individual right to use it, so they can be free to use it to make more money for themselves.
Enrico Fermi was an Italian physicist who got his education in Italy. Fermi left Italy for University of Chicago because of Mussolini. Will the next Fermi leave the US because of Bush?
I guess the best way to get some answers to these questions is by not sabotaging the climate scientist trying to find out. It might be unconvinent for some spine-less politicians that climate scientists have shown the current rapid climate change is human made. But the immoral games these politicians are playing with facts are damaging the search to answer questions like the ones you just posed. While scientist are now starting the crucial next step to look for way to deal with the climate change, the ignorent general public in some countries still think that the current global warming is not caused by our societes over-use of oil based fuels.
I visited Grenoble in the French Alps where they had the winter olympics in 1968. They still have some of the facilities there that they used in 1968, like the ski jump etc, but they don't have snow that low in the winter anymore to use any of them! The climate change has made what was a sure place to run the olympics 37 years ago into a place where you don't get any snow in the winter...
Why don't they start by handing themselves in?
If you look at rich people in the USA today, almost all of them inherited the money from their daddy. I don't care if that gives me or liberals a bad name.
How about, children born poor in your many ghettos have not a chance to get a propper education in the US these days, however many Einstein genes they have. Whatever happened to the American dream? You have a class society that is worse than Europe has seen since the days those kings had real power, where the rich are getting richer and richer with their inherent wealth (look at the failed business man GWB). At the same time the middle class has to pay a larger and larger part of the real tax burden, while getting less back for their money in health care and public education. And of course, only the filthy rich have access to political power. Way to go, you are on the right path.
Looking at your list, I say we sure are.
Mann's hockey stick was published in Nature -- the most prestigeous scientific journal in the world -- because it was an excellent work showing how man made so-called climate gases influence our climate. Who are you kidding anyway, you don't have any professional experience.
Thanks for explaining this to us mr. Big-Shot-Climate-Scientist. But the hockey stick graph shows that Climate change is caused by humans; that is the number one reason why this spinless congressman is ordered to discredit these scientist by big oil.
So, how many articles to Nature have you published, mr. Expert?
Climate change will for sure affect the health, wealth and freedom every American, moron.
It will takes years before the EU commission can get a new software patents law to the EU parliament. The EU bureaucracy is slow (since it has to negotiate between so many different countries). They will probably try, but for now, the EU is safe for at least two-three years before the fight has to be fought again.