Oh, I get it. Stealing is okay if it's someone you don't like. I hope you keep that in mind next time you go out to your car.
People in general do not steal physical objects because they would be taking that thing away from someone else, whereas music copying does not deprive anyone else of the music itself. Beyond that I guess you have to ask yourself whether art belongs to society or corporations - should profits over-ride culture or should culture take precedence over profits
Personally I believe that laws are meant to reflect society not mould it.
Take for example one of the world's biggest media companies, Vivendi-Universal, its a French company.
And along with another French company, Suez, they control 40% of the worlds water supplies. America might lead with the fake free-market spin, but there are just as many European corporations happy to tag along (or even take the lead).
Some of Blunket's "ideas" seem so totally ignorant and repulsive that I'm convinced someone is breaking into his house whilst he's reading his braille Mein Campf on the crapper and crayoning extra stuff on the bottom.
Blunkett - "Honestly Tony I don't know how that got into the Crime and Punishment Act 2003. I would never use the word "Nigger" in official documents"
A trademark does NOT protect her against another author writing a story about a boy wizard with a lightning scar on his forehead who attends a school hidden in modern-day England where it can't be seen by muggles, called John Miles.
Eh, neither does copyright law protect her from this. I could write as many books as I wanted containing such a character, called John Miles, who attended a boarding school for magicians. That would be my interpretation of such a character and so long as he wasn't called Harry Potter and his school wasn't called Hogwarts, I would be free from copyright infringments (which is not to say the same as free from litigation by those who like to throw their large legal funds around in the hope of forcing victory or legal reinterpration).
the large majority of pro-file-sharing and anti-RIAA/.ers are just leeches who want free shit. the whole pity-the-poor-artistes rhetoric is usually just an unconscious or semi-conscious attempt by said leeches to justify their actions to themselves.
That might be true but there are plenty of us who knew of the bad practices of the record industry long before file sharing came along - who knew the record companies were the leeches on society. p2p file sharing has simply proved that they have no intention of changing and will infact use every dirty trick they can to retain their very unbalanced status quo.
Nope, sorry. Morality is not a fixed concept - unless you're some kind of right-wing Christian. If everybody does something it cannot be immoral (if even 42million/250million people are doing it, it can't be immoral).
For good or bad, IP is an artificial construct which only works if everybody buys in. I think its niave to think that it will always work or even be around considering it (like laws against recreational drug use) are a microscopic blip on the radar of human history. Art, music, writing are _our_ culture - if you don't want to contribute to our culture keep it to yourself. If you do want to contribute to _our_ culture then you have to release it and accept whatever deal _society_, as a whole, has agreed to give you (which could be nothing more than being able to perform it, along with everyone else).
It worked for Mozart, Bach, Ug the Caveman, the USA 100 years ago, China, the Queen of Sheba, etc,etc. Why is the 'morality' of some CEO's in Corporate America 'better' than that of 5.99999 billion other people? And why do we owe them a living?
I just assumed that since every Brit get's a free trip to either Moonbase Alpha or Gallifrey every year that it happened in the USA as well. I guess that's why they told us to keep it under our hats.
Do you work for the RIAA? You only need the RIAA to reach the 'fans' because the RIAA control the advertising channels and the distribution channels. Without the RIAA people who wanted to listen to music would still manage to get in touch with people who made music.
How do you think it happened before the RIAA invented themselves?
The RIAA just make it easier for people to be lazy consumers (which is pretty much the way 'American Consumerism' has gone in general.
Maybe you run more wire taps in the US, but in the UK they just keep the data, no wire taps required.
Actually, and not that I agree with even this, the data to be retained was simply the logs. ie where you are visiting, who you are mailing, who you were phoning and for how long. They would not have been required (or even allowed) to keep the actual data of any transmission (ie what was said).
Since there are so many ways to avoid being caught in ISPs logs (running your own mail server, using a foreign proxy, ssh, etc, etc) I think it would maybe have been a good idea to let them set these laws before they get a clue. All they will get from the ISPs log of my mail will be all the spam I don't have to bother picking up by running my own mail server.
The Iranian news agency is also reporting that there may be explosions on the peninsula near Basra. Tony Blair will be addressing the UK at 10:30 EST (3:30 AM GMT, I think)
Eh, try PM. Even if you can't work out the difference between -5 hours GMT and -5 hours did it not seem odd that Tony Blair would be making a speach to his own country at 3:30 in the morning?
And bare in mind that Ash are an ANTI-smoking lobby group in the UK - definately not a pro-cannabis group.
It pisses me off how easy it is for the prohibitionists to spread their lies - people are just too willing to atomatically accept the evils of drugs because 'drugs are bad, m'kay'.
Marriage is a covenant which primarily involves sharing property so as to bind the couple together for the long term which is primarily neccesary to raise children
If you're still living in the stone age, then you're 100% right. Then again, some of us have evolved beyond simple animal instincts.
There's a moral argument against everything if you're moral compass is twisted the right way. But it usually includes something along the lines of "...against God's will...".
Not to dis your support of the Deersoft guys, which is great, but if you are running 30 copies in the office why not simply use the GPL version on your mail server? The great thing about SpamAssassin (GPL version) is that it can simply mark the headers of spam so users can have their own rules for whitelists, deleting it or moving it to special folders.
Mate, SpamNet is Vipul's Razor. You can run MIMEDefang, SpamAssassin and Vipul's Razor together, as I do on my mail relay - and its all open source. They might not come with pretty GUIs but you do have full control over everything.
I'll personally give +10 karma to any American who gets some fucking clue before trying to point out that the Register has some bias.
"Hey man, I'm really clever. I pointed out that The Register isn't a straight news site. And tomorrow I'm going to find out which part of Texas that United Kingdom is in"
I think all this fighting on behalf of the oligopoly is the best thing that could ever happen to open source and 'free' software. Its not like OS has the finances to fight a major PR campaign on its own so the more MS and friends fight against it the more PR they give it.
There's no such thing as bad publicity, as they say, and the more the oligopoly bad mouths it the more people who never really thought about open source actually get to hear about it and in the end, no matter how evil Microsoft makes it out to be, people will realise there is an alternative they can at least look at.
You beat me to it. My favourite author and those two books in particular stand a mile above Gibson and co, even though they were written over a decade before 'Cyberpunk' was even 'invented'.
Neuromancer to me now seems really dated whereas Brunner's work is just as valid today as when he wrote it in the late 60's/early 70's. If ever sci-fi was literature those books are it.
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People in general do not steal physical objects because they would be taking that thing away from someone else, whereas music copying does not deprive anyone else of the music itself. Beyond that I guess you have to ask yourself whether art belongs to society or corporations - should profits over-ride culture or should culture take precedence over profits
Personally I believe that laws are meant to reflect society not mould it.
And along with another French company, Suez, they control 40% of the worlds water supplies. America might lead with the fake free-market spin, but there are just as many European corporations happy to tag along (or even take the lead).
Hey, come on. Credit where credit's due. At least he knew it was in Europe.
Blunkett - "Honestly Tony I don't know how that got into the Crime and Punishment Act 2003. I would never use the word "Nigger" in official documents"
Eh, neither does copyright law protect her from this. I could write as many books as I wanted containing such a character, called John Miles, who attended a boarding school for magicians.
That would be my interpretation of such a character and so long as he wasn't called Harry Potter and his school wasn't called Hogwarts, I would be free from copyright infringments (which is not to say the same as free from litigation by those who like to throw their large legal funds around in the hope of forcing victory or legal reinterpration).
That might be true but there are plenty of us who knew of the bad practices of the record industry long before file sharing came along - who knew the record companies were the leeches on society. p2p file sharing has simply proved that they have no intention of changing and will infact use every dirty trick they can to retain their very unbalanced status quo.
For good or bad, IP is an artificial construct which only works if everybody buys in. I think its niave to think that it will always work or even be around considering it (like laws against recreational drug use) are a microscopic blip on the radar of human history. Art, music, writing are _our_ culture - if you don't want to contribute to our culture keep it to yourself. If you do want to contribute to _our_ culture then you have to release it and accept whatever deal _society_, as a whole, has agreed to give you (which could be nothing more than being able to perform it, along with everyone else).
It worked for Mozart, Bach, Ug the Caveman, the USA 100 years ago, China, the Queen of Sheba, etc,etc. Why is the 'morality' of some CEO's in Corporate America 'better' than that of 5.99999 billion other people? And why do we owe them a living?
I just assumed that since every Brit get's a free trip to either Moonbase Alpha or Gallifrey every year that it happened in the USA as well. I guess that's why they told us to keep it under our hats.
If they have the money?
How do you think it happened before the RIAA invented themselves?
The RIAA just make it easier for people to be lazy consumers (which is pretty much the way 'American Consumerism' has gone in general.
Together they are the original odd couple
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Actually, and not that I agree with even this, the data to be retained was simply the logs. ie where you are visiting, who you are mailing, who you were phoning and for how long. They would not have been required (or even allowed) to keep the actual data of any transmission (ie what was said).
Since there are so many ways to avoid being caught in ISPs logs (running your own mail server, using a foreign proxy, ssh, etc, etc) I think it would maybe have been a good idea to let them set these laws before they get a clue. All they will get from the ISPs log of my mail will be all the spam I don't have to bother picking up by running my own mail server.
Eh, try PM. Even if you can't work out the difference between -5 hours GMT and -5 hours did it not seem odd that Tony Blair would be making a speach to his own country at 3:30 in the morning?
This simply isn't true - its just one more piece of crap picked up by the media then ignored when the rebuttals come in.
http://www.ash.org.uk
And bare in mind that Ash are an ANTI-smoking lobby group in the UK - definately not a pro-cannabis group.
It pisses me off how easy it is for the prohibitionists to spread their lies - people are just too willing to atomatically accept the evils of drugs because 'drugs are bad, m'kay'.
You mean like methadone, which I believe is actually more addictive than heroin with a tenth of the buzz.
Bullplop! Bullplop I say!
http://www.ash.org.uk/
And bear in mind Ash are an anti-smoking lobby group.
Welcome to the world of Government sponsored lies.
Or French perhaps?
If you're still living in the stone age, then you're 100% right. Then again, some of us have evolved beyond simple animal instincts.
There's a moral argument against everything if you're moral compass is twisted the right way. But it usually includes something along the lines of "...against God's will...".
Not to dis your support of the Deersoft guys, which is great, but if you are running 30 copies in the office why not simply use the GPL version on your mail server? The great thing about SpamAssassin (GPL version) is that it can simply mark the headers of spam so users can have their own rules for whitelists, deleting it or moving it to special folders.
Mate, SpamNet is Vipul's Razor. You can run MIMEDefang, SpamAssassin and Vipul's Razor together, as I do on my mail relay - and its all open source. They might not come with pretty GUIs but you do have full control over everything.
I'll personally give +10 karma to any American who gets some fucking clue before trying to point out that the Register has some bias.
"Hey man, I'm really clever. I pointed out that The Register isn't a straight news site. And tomorrow I'm going to find out which part of Texas that United Kingdom is in"
So was I so I could mod them up, but my mod points have vanished overnight. Bastards.
I think all this fighting on behalf of the oligopoly is the best thing that could ever happen to open source and 'free' software. Its not like OS has the finances to fight a major PR campaign on its own so the more MS and friends fight against it the more PR they give it.
There's no such thing as bad publicity, as they say, and the more the oligopoly bad mouths it the more people who never really thought about open source actually get to hear about it and in the end, no matter how evil Microsoft makes it out to be, people will realise there is an alternative they can at least look at.
You beat me to it. My favourite author and those two books in particular stand a mile above Gibson and co, even though they were written over a decade before 'Cyberpunk' was even 'invented'.
Neuromancer to me now seems really dated whereas Brunner's work is just as valid today as when he wrote it in the late 60's/early 70's. If ever sci-fi was literature those books are it.