If a site in maintained by someone that cares about his site (ie. nytimes.com, amazon.com, etc) then they have stuff in place to know, themselves, that their sites are down.
If a site operator doesn't know that his/her site is down, then it's almost a certainty that they don't care.
So, get a hold of the owner in the event of a problem? That's just plain silly.
You're a rocket scientist? Not according to your own resume.
Boy, you are one of those dudes that loves the appearance of big-time.
How funny. You're just a kid fresh out of college with a summer job testing video games under his belt.
Yeah... attention everyone... Lee here, a rocket scientist, has some excellent engineering and project management skills! Line up here to get his wonderful insight!
OK, I get ya now. Lol. Hey! Have fun with your next reply. You can't resist... but, I won't bother reading it, kid.
I'm a software engineer. Professionally for just over 20 years. And, in that time I've worked with many a stuffy boring people with attitudes just like yours. Have fun with it, man! Smile! Be creative. Don't sweat looking like some smart-genius so much that everyone you work with ends up thinking you're a smart-... something else instead.
For all I know, though, you are a fun person in real life and your problem is only in resisting that thing that/. seems to bring out of 90% of people here... an urge to be heavily negative and critical, and an obsessive need to appear smart as well as have the last word.
Since I said the idea wasn't likely to ever be done, and I don't have the desire or money to pull it off myself... your wish that I "Get over it" is granted.
oh come on!... don't you ever think of solutions to problems that don't exist?
not everything has to work well, or even at all. some things are just fun to tinker with.
if you don't understand that, then you're not an engineer or hobbyist. I think you probably do understand, just glossed over the part where I was saying "just for fun...to be wacky".:)
I had this idea a few months back that is fairly similar to this Asus thing.
First there are big ribbon cables inside PCs
Then, there are rounded cables for better airflow
But, I suggest... how about wireless. Working with standard mobo and HD and CD parts, you plug special new little wifi adapters into the standard connectors (a pair of rx/tx happiness for each component).
Of course... just for fun. To be wacky. Therefore, never gonna happen. Right?
Well, maybe.
Or there might be mobo with this in mind, no adapters necessary. Same for the components, for that legacy-free fresh scent.
That bit about nmap makes me think, would be kinda cool if the maintainers of thousands of various projects all introduced code in their projects to specifically not execute on SCO platforms. Let SCO sit around with an OS that nothing runs on.
I totally agree that this is cheap and dishonest and bait-n-switch and whatever way it can be declared awful.
Too bad you can't truly buy off-the-shelf components and build your own laptop.
My parents once asked if a particular Gateway would suit them, I looked at the specs and said "sure, whatever". What a mistake! The 3 PCI slots were only two, because the huge slot-1 assembly completely blocked access to one slot. Bah, whatever, I'll spare you the long list of frustrations with that thing. Worse yet, I knew better. I had been through sucky Gateways at work.
Oh, in another case, the Matrox video card was specifically described as "Millenium". But, it was an OEM version which lacked the daughter-card attachment, had a DAC half the speed, and some other differences. That's just to show an example quite similar to your problem, but one from like 1994.
This type of thing is routine. Typical. Standard business practice. Always been the case. The only surprise is that you were caught off-guard. I'm sorry about that. I've been caught off-guard as well, and it sucks!
Consider the old CRT display size issue of a many years back. Or, the Nintendo Gameboy Advance... they had TV commercials and print material that demonstrated a bright and clear screen. It was a total lie.
Probably... every single product that has, or ever will be, marketed... should result in a class action lawsuit. Voting with your wallet makes only the tiniest dent... but it's all we have.
"/wolf/wired" is short, true, and therefore presents namespace issues. Even though this same example conveys a hierarchy notion, path, the namespace issue is not really resolved. Some people want shorter URLs so that they can be guessed... what seems obvious should work. That would never be the case with all the products Amazon offers. Therefore, the Search & Browse features are the user's best bets.
Also, Amazon does not use mod_rewrite for it's short-urls support. It uses a different approach that allows for configuration/removal of short-urls without hup'ing any servers, and allows non-techy folks in the company to edit them using an internal tool.
Amazon never intended to expose all products via short-urls. The short-urls feature (things like www.amazon.com/rocks, www.amazon.com/football, www.amazon.com/wolf/wired (which *does* work)) exist for specific reasons. Sometimes just fun, sometimes strategic, sometimes for payment, etc.
You have to consider who benefits from shorter URLs. Users can just bookmark stuff. Who cares if it's long? OK, maybe when you're typing in from a magazine (and Paul Boutin published an incorrect longer URL, tsk tsk). Maybe because pasting into IM or email works better with shorter URLs (read more on this below). But, Amazon has specific reasons for those URL elements. The session ID, the ref-tag, etc. Is Amazon making you haul around that many characters? Maybe... so what? For most sites, URLs are designed for specific needs of the web site...so that it works; not entirely because of the preferences of the user (although that is sometimes taken into consideration).
ISBN numbers are 10 digits. OK, so? Amazon sell way more than books. The Amazon product ID is known as ASIN. It is also 10 digits and encompasses far more than all ISBN numbers. If you want to memorize just 10 digits, then by all means...please do! Here's what you do- remember this pattern: www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/xxxxxxxxxx (where xxxxxxxxxx is the 10-digit ASIN). That's it. The/o/ is a shortcut for/exec/obidos/ and/ASIN/ routes through dispatch code so just provide the 10 digit number (easily found in the URL or on every product detail page). How long is that? 32 chars, including the "www.".
So, back to the problem of pasting an Amazon URL into an email or IM chat. I totally agree. It's obnoxious to copy the raw URL. Also, it's a nuisance to manually abbreviate the URL as I described above. Using the "email this to a friend" feature does not help you in pasting into your email or IM chat, etc. So, I predict:) that there may soon be an abbreviated URL link on Amazon product detail pages. Then you'll just right-click & copy the abbreviated URL for your pasting pleasure.
I think that any thread posted on/. that even mentions Duke ought to be moderated as troll. There is no such game, there never will be any such game, and it just makes everyone vent and laugh for a while. I guess that's not so bad... laughing is good!
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If a site in maintained by someone that cares about his site (ie. nytimes.com, amazon.com, etc) then they have stuff in place to know, themselves, that their sites are down.
If a site operator doesn't know that his/her site is down, then it's almost a certainty that they don't care.
So, get a hold of the owner in the event of a problem? That's just plain silly.
Oh, and BTW... with today's tech, wifi would be 7.5X slower than peak ATA/100.
Boy, yeah, that's the end of the world as we know it!
You're a rocket scientist? Not according to your own resume.
Boy, you are one of those dudes that loves the appearance of big-time.
How funny. You're just a kid fresh out of college with a summer job testing video games under his belt.
Yeah... attention everyone... Lee here, a rocket scientist, has some excellent engineering and project management skills! Line up here to get his wonderful insight!
OK, I get ya now. Lol. Hey! Have fun with your next reply. You can't resist... but, I won't bother reading it, kid.
Yeah, I hear ya.
/. seems to bring out of 90% of people here... an urge to be heavily negative and critical, and an obsessive need to appear smart as well as have the last word.
I'm a software engineer. Professionally for just over 20 years. And, in that time I've worked with many a stuffy boring people with attitudes just like yours. Have fun with it, man! Smile! Be creative. Don't sweat looking like some smart-genius so much that everyone you work with ends up thinking you're a smart-... something else instead.
For all I know, though, you are a fun person in real life and your problem is only in resisting that thing that
Since I said the idea wasn't likely to ever be done, and I don't have the desire or money to pull it off myself... your wish that I "Get over it" is granted.
oh come on! ... don't you ever think of solutions to problems that don't exist?
:)
not everything has to work well, or even at all. some things are just fun to tinker with.
if you don't understand that, then you're not an engineer or hobbyist. I think you probably do understand, just glossed over the part where I was saying "just for fun...to be wacky".
Dude... I said for fun! Not for speed.
Btw... dobut??? lol
I had this idea a few months back that is fairly similar to this Asus thing.
First there are big ribbon cables inside PCs
Then, there are rounded cables for better airflow
But, I suggest... how about wireless. Working with standard mobo and HD and CD parts, you plug special new little wifi adapters into the standard connectors (a pair of rx/tx happiness for each component).
Of course... just for fun. To be wacky. Therefore, never gonna happen. Right?
Well, maybe.
Or there might be mobo with this in mind, no adapters necessary. Same for the components, for that legacy-free fresh scent.
Could this eventually be the end of spam?
Of course! Because, a TLD is so incredibly different than a domain. Luckily, open relays won't even be a problem!
Phew!
Ultimate Cooling System ???
Yeah right. There's no way this thing can top a quality speed-demon from Michael's Computers.
Or... to learn how to spell "Rob Malda".
and even large companies are not above a little fraud now and then
Wow, that's alarming.
I thought only the tiny puny mom-n-pop companies like Global Crossing and Enron had fraud problems.
A short list of devices you can hand-crank?
I'd like a AA battery that I can hand-crank, that I can then put into any device laying around the house, etc...
It's also worth noting that Slashdot's RSS feed will have more article contents for subscribers in a few weeks
Then call it Greed Feed.
That bit about nmap makes me think, would be kinda cool if the maintainers of thousands of various projects all introduced code in their projects to specifically not execute on SCO platforms. Let SCO sit around with an OS that nothing runs on.
Abuzar Chaudhary entered ten thousand now her PM is mad
Judging from the post... it seems to me that he might just as well have asked:
We invented a product without a purpose, please help us think of a purpose.
And the award for Most Boob Views goes to Tivo customer Peter Puffer of Topeka, KS.
Congratulations, sir! You'll be getting a new remote to replace your worn out unit free in the mail!
Well NASA just finished one of the final tests and is preparing to launch it as early as February 21! I wish them the best.
I wish them the 3rd best!
I totally agree that this is cheap and dishonest and bait-n-switch and whatever way it can be declared awful.
Too bad you can't truly buy off-the-shelf components and build your own laptop.
My parents once asked if a particular Gateway would suit them, I looked at the specs and said "sure, whatever". What a mistake! The 3 PCI slots were only two, because the huge slot-1 assembly completely blocked access to one slot. Bah, whatever, I'll spare you the long list of frustrations with that thing. Worse yet, I knew better. I had been through sucky Gateways at work.
Oh, in another case, the Matrox video card was specifically described as "Millenium". But, it was an OEM version which lacked the daughter-card attachment, had a DAC half the speed, and some other differences. That's just to show an example quite similar to your problem, but one from like 1994.
This type of thing is routine. Typical. Standard business practice. Always been the case. The only surprise is that you were caught off-guard. I'm sorry about that. I've been caught off-guard as well, and it sucks!
Consider the old CRT display size issue of a many years back. Or, the Nintendo Gameboy Advance... they had TV commercials and print material that demonstrated a bright and clear screen. It was a total lie.
Probably... every single product that has, or ever will be, marketed... should result in a class action lawsuit. Voting with your wallet makes only the tiniest dent... but it's all we have.
beef, chicken, fish, ... and now this??
oh?
For those wishing this post actually had some commentary associated with it...
"/wolf/wired" is short, true, and therefore presents namespace issues. Even though this same example conveys a hierarchy notion, path, the namespace issue is not really resolved. Some people want shorter URLs so that they can be guessed... what seems obvious should work. That would never be the case with all the products Amazon offers. Therefore, the Search & Browse features are the user's best bets.
/o/ is a shortcut for /exec/obidos/ and /ASIN/ routes through dispatch code so just provide the 10 digit number (easily found in the URL or on every product detail page). How long is that? 32 chars, including the "www.".
:) that there may soon be an abbreviated URL link on Amazon product detail pages. Then you'll just right-click & copy the abbreviated URL for your pasting pleasure.
Also, Amazon does not use mod_rewrite for it's short-urls support. It uses a different approach that allows for configuration/removal of short-urls without hup'ing any servers, and allows non-techy folks in the company to edit them using an internal tool.
Amazon never intended to expose all products via short-urls. The short-urls feature (things like www.amazon.com/rocks, www.amazon.com/football, www.amazon.com/wolf/wired (which *does* work)) exist for specific reasons. Sometimes just fun, sometimes strategic, sometimes for payment, etc.
You have to consider who benefits from shorter URLs. Users can just bookmark stuff. Who cares if it's long? OK, maybe when you're typing in from a magazine (and Paul Boutin published an incorrect longer URL, tsk tsk). Maybe because pasting into IM or email works better with shorter URLs (read more on this below). But, Amazon has specific reasons for those URL elements. The session ID, the ref-tag, etc. Is Amazon making you haul around that many characters? Maybe... so what? For most sites, URLs are designed for specific needs of the web site...so that it works; not entirely because of the preferences of the user (although that is sometimes taken into consideration).
ISBN numbers are 10 digits. OK, so? Amazon sell way more than books. The Amazon product ID is known as ASIN. It is also 10 digits and encompasses far more than all ISBN numbers. If you want to memorize just 10 digits, then by all means...please do! Here's what you do- remember this pattern: www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/xxxxxxxxxx (where xxxxxxxxxx is the 10-digit ASIN). That's it. The
So, back to the problem of pasting an Amazon URL into an email or IM chat. I totally agree. It's obnoxious to copy the raw URL. Also, it's a nuisance to manually abbreviate the URL as I described above. Using the "email this to a friend" feature does not help you in pasting into your email or IM chat, etc. So, I predict
And, this guy obviously hasn't actually tried it...
http://www.amazon.com/wolf/wired
Sucker...
That's pretty funny.
For Christmas, I got a book from which I've already learned how to correctly use the word "influential".
they are unbelievable hose heads.
/. that even mentions Duke ought to be moderated as troll. There is no such game, there never will be any such game, and it just makes everyone vent and laugh for a while. I guess that's not so bad... laughing is good!
I think that any thread posted on
Please mod me down!