What a way to miss the point. Why mess around with physical media when we can stream instantly, better for the consumer, cheaper to distribute, better for the environment. The mail is not trivial to use if you want it in any way now, and why shouldn't that be the norm? We have these technologies now - they are well tested and widely spread. Why shouldn't they be used and available?
Why would you choose to defend bizarre business practices of large organisations and rather attack someone wishing to have an easy path to entertainment?
The same people will react in horror to this - but at the same time disapprove of the right-to-be-forgotten that the EU has applied to Google et al. You can't have it both ways, either we have a forgetful society (the same that has happened throughout all of history, and is widely considered essential to personal freedom) or you let things be remembered forever and applied to your "reputation".
As imperfect as the right-to-be-forgotten is, I'd rather have it that not. We need to understand that just because we now *can* record everyone's every discretion for all of time, we mustn't.
Delivery medium != content. You know that these newfangled devices can contain books and newspapers now? Or is bring printed on paper somehow morally superior?
Isn't that the point though, it's a complicated technology that is frequently unreliable to do a very simple job that is already solved by means of a cable.
In Colorado, there's a town famous for having a frozen dead guy on hand. It's important to recognize what this is: a vain (and hopeless) bid for immortality.
Yeah. 14 years of life should be enough for anybody.
Very much so. And when you tell them that they are doing it wrong, they first do not believe you and then they start to cry. We have far too many coders and most of them really bad.
We don't have too many coders, we have an industry that is immature because it's far too hard to avoid making stupid mistakes. Other industries can handle below-average participants without collapsing (/causing catastrophic outages, security leaks, whatever). You or I might be awesome, but there can only ever be so many great programmers, half of all programmers are below average. And we need them too. All industries attempt to make the skill easier & safer, and that's a *good* thing. You can always just wish for better skills.
Open source is not a magic panacea that fixes all ills. It requires dedicated programmers with alot of time, just like anything else. The many-eyes-make-all-bugs-shallow mantra has failed many times, have you followed the OpenSSL Heartbleed?
If you don't think that this can happen easily then I guess you've not been in programming very long, or at all. Computers will quite happily do something repetitive and destructive in a loop forever, and in a way that is almost invisible to the programmer unless they're specifically looking for it. Just now (actually, literally today) I had OpenVPN eat up GB with a log file complaining about something wrong in the connection.
This isn't a bandwidth issue, nothing is being downloaded, It takes a pretty dense worldview not to read the article you are posting on.
The original poster is suggesting that they kill a feature of storing songs locally to fix the bug. It doesn't matter what the original article is about, because the post I was replying to had already made that mistake.
Bandwidth, memory, clock cycles....don't matter. Use more shitty layers of abstraction over layers built into high level languages, then kick it out the door.
Well, what do you expect? Everyone expects client programmers to support more devices, more user for less money, cheaper / free apps. The last 3 places I've worked at had no QA department whatsoever.
I know it's fashionable to shake the fist at 'lazy' programmers, but the fact is we expect more functionality from less dev time, requiring abstractions, libraries that aren't completely controlled or understood, testing skipped, etc. Programmers aren't the problem, relentless competition is.
Yes and all those checks and balances are now all controlled by the same people.
What better way to make sure those people know that you exist and hear your voice, than to make it loud? Sitting at home hoping it will all work out OK is not going to help.
Holy shit, this isn't about "he said something bad", it's that he is going to massively make real people's life worse. Actually worse. That isn't a good reason to complain for you? What exactly is?
Muslims, gays, women, blacks, all likely to suffer under the things that Trump has said he wants to do. Who's for no healthcare? Who's for nullifying marriages? Who's for beefing up the already militarised and racist police? Who's for religious profiling?
Your fatigue must be hard for you. You have my sympathies.
Well put. For all the bellyaching about Obama, he did very little to materially harm anyone. Obamacare may (debatable) have increased the health costs marginally to help pay for those people not covered, in practicality for most, nothing dramatic changed fast.
Trump comes along with the promise that he will throw out religious freedom completely, a founding principal of the country. Deliberately shutting down travel based on religion, and monitoring all those of a religion with security services. What would that lead to?
Someone said once that there are over a billion Muslims in the world, if they really wanted us dead, we'd be dead already.
Democracy has to have legal limits - otherwise the majority can utterly fuck over the minority. If the referendum was asking to "kill all the jews" and received a 'mandate', that does not mean it's a legal thing to actually go implement.
One of the arguments for going through parliament properly is that withdrawal from EU significantly affects rights of people. Up until January this year it was reasonable for someone to travel here from the continent and assume they would be allowed to live here forever. There are 3 million EU non-Brits here, what are their rights going to be after? What happens to the 1.5 million Brits in the EU? What about Gibraltar? What about Northern Irish border? As someone who is British and lives in the UK, but had serious plans in the works for going and living in Amsterdam or Barcelona, I also have been massively affected.
If you're going to change people's rights, it needs to go through parliament properly, and then we can have some debate and answers to what they actually want to get. At the moment it's all secret and guesswork.
I cannot possibly understand why you would not want it to be debated... the MPs are clearly going to vote it through, but with a debate we can actually understand what the aims are and pressure them if they are no good.
And, if after two months the opinion has not changed to one you want, wait another two months and check in again. Repeat until public opinion finally aligns with your own.
I get your point - but what exactly did we vote for? Leaving the EU has so many different possible outcomes, what if the leave deal is nothing like you wanted? If you were dead set on reducing free movement of people and the deal we go for doesn't include that, is that OK? It's still technically leaving the EU, so that's fine then?
... I would argue that the "open source, changeable, free (do you mean as in beer or as in speech)" are not factors that most people care about. I think the majority of the smartphone users care about price and usability.
Why for the love of all that is holy would an end-user care about the amount of money the manufacturer makes? Apart from a dick-waving contest, of course? I would assume that the more money a company makes from my purchase, the *less* value I am getting from it.
I think there's a heavy pull back to your first smartphone platform. I've always used Android and I find iPhones very hard work. And people often do a (by definition) high-end iPhone -> mid-range / budget Android and then wonder about why it doesn't feel as good...
I think the lock-in to whatever Apple's decisions are is one of the most risky things about iPhone - we're seeing it now with the new MacBook 'Pro' that nobody likes. If you want a Mac you're stuck with whatever they release. Same with iPhone. Android has a good variety (though not as much as it could be - where's my qwerty keyboard??), and I am hoping that the new Pixel doesn't get too popular and that the minor manufacturers start holding their own. Android will be significantly poorer if it loses Sony / LG / HTC / etc.
Bitcoin derives its value from being extremely easy to transact even at global scale,
I think the scalability problem with the blocksize limit is chipping into that advantage (to say the least). A useful currency transacts within seconds, not hours.
outside the control of any central body
But is in the control of the Chinese miners. I for one prefer a local elected body.
There may well be room for a cryptocurrency in the world, but this one is so seriously flawed I wouldn't touch it.
Agreed. I don't miss calls that I used to because the vibrate on the phone isn't strong enough. Can now put my phone in my bag or coat which is more comfortable for the inflated phones that we have now. Can reference public transport directions on the watch rather than hiking the phone out every time. A SMS that is trivial can be glanced and ignored, without hiking the phone out every time.
Having said all that - I don't think they are essential. They are a little useful. They are helpful. They aren't the next big thing, not everything has to be.
On this site something is considered a failure if it doesn't change the entire world.
What a way to miss the point. Why mess around with physical media when we can stream instantly, better for the consumer, cheaper to distribute, better for the environment. The mail is not trivial to use if you want it in any way now, and why shouldn't that be the norm? We have these technologies now - they are well tested and widely spread. Why shouldn't they be used and available?
Why would you choose to defend bizarre business practices of large organisations and rather attack someone wishing to have an easy path to entertainment?
those were pirated copies from non-legit sellers and Amazon refunded the money and you still had the option to buy from the legit publisher
So? If they had accidentally sold you a physical book they would have no right to come into your house and take it back.
The more things we have that become digital, the more we are going to have to start applying property rights to them.
you are not allowed items that endanger the public with no other function.
How do you get to that conclusion? Clearly it has functions.
The same people will react in horror to this - but at the same time disapprove of the right-to-be-forgotten that the EU has applied to Google et al. You can't have it both ways, either we have a forgetful society (the same that has happened throughout all of history, and is widely considered essential to personal freedom) or you let things be remembered forever and applied to your "reputation".
As imperfect as the right-to-be-forgotten is, I'd rather have it that not. We need to understand that just because we now *can* record everyone's every discretion for all of time, we mustn't.
Yeah. Maybe they can read news on the internet or something.
Delivery medium != content. You know that these newfangled devices can contain books and newspapers now? Or is bring printed on paper somehow morally superior?
Well don't the have to do all that other rubbish? Otherwise if you just use bt audio for audio, in a car there's no advantage to just having a cable.
Isn't that the point though, it's a complicated technology that is frequently unreliable to do a very simple job that is already solved by means of a cable.
In Colorado, there's a town famous for having a frozen dead guy on hand. It's important to recognize what this is: a vain (and hopeless) bid for immortality.
Yeah. 14 years of life should be enough for anybody.
Very much so. And when you tell them that they are doing it wrong, they first do not believe you and then they start to cry. We have far too many coders and most of them really bad.
We don't have too many coders, we have an industry that is immature because it's far too hard to avoid making stupid mistakes. Other industries can handle below-average participants without collapsing (/causing catastrophic outages, security leaks, whatever). You or I might be awesome, but there can only ever be so many great programmers, half of all programmers are below average. And we need them too. All industries attempt to make the skill easier & safer, and that's a *good* thing. You can always just wish for better skills.
Open source is not a magic panacea that fixes all ills. It requires dedicated programmers with alot of time, just like anything else. The many-eyes-make-all-bugs-shallow mantra has failed many times, have you followed the OpenSSL Heartbleed?
If you don't think that this can happen easily then I guess you've not been in programming very long, or at all. Computers will quite happily do something repetitive and destructive in a loop forever, and in a way that is almost invisible to the programmer unless they're specifically looking for it. Just now (actually, literally today) I had OpenVPN eat up GB with a log file complaining about something wrong in the connection.
This isn't a bandwidth issue, nothing is being downloaded, It takes a pretty dense worldview not to read the article you are posting on.
The original poster is suggesting that they kill a feature of storing songs locally to fix the bug. It doesn't matter what the original article is about, because the post I was replying to had already made that mistake.
Problem solved.
This is a non issue on desktops, really.
It takes a pretty small worldview to not be able to imagine people on limited bandwidth / unreliable internet connections.
Bandwidth, memory, clock cycles....don't matter. Use more shitty layers of abstraction over layers built into high level languages, then kick it out the door.
Well, what do you expect? Everyone expects client programmers to support more devices, more user for less money, cheaper / free apps. The last 3 places I've worked at had no QA department whatsoever.
I know it's fashionable to shake the fist at 'lazy' programmers, but the fact is we expect more functionality from less dev time, requiring abstractions, libraries that aren't completely controlled or understood, testing skipped, etc. Programmers aren't the problem, relentless competition is.
Yes and all those checks and balances are now all controlled by the same people.
What better way to make sure those people know that you exist and hear your voice, than to make it loud? Sitting at home hoping it will all work out OK is not going to help.
Holy shit, this isn't about "he said something bad", it's that he is going to massively make real people's life worse. Actually worse. That isn't a good reason to complain for you? What exactly is?
Muslims, gays, women, blacks, all likely to suffer under the things that Trump has said he wants to do. Who's for no healthcare? Who's for nullifying marriages? Who's for beefing up the already militarised and racist police? Who's for religious profiling?
Your fatigue must be hard for you. You have my sympathies.
Well put. For all the bellyaching about Obama, he did very little to materially harm anyone. Obamacare may (debatable) have increased the health costs marginally to help pay for those people not covered, in practicality for most, nothing dramatic changed fast.
Trump comes along with the promise that he will throw out religious freedom completely, a founding principal of the country. Deliberately shutting down travel based on religion, and monitoring all those of a religion with security services. What would that lead to?
Someone said once that there are over a billion Muslims in the world, if they really wanted us dead, we'd be dead already.
Democracy has to have legal limits - otherwise the majority can utterly fuck over the minority. If the referendum was asking to "kill all the jews" and received a 'mandate', that does not mean it's a legal thing to actually go implement.
One of the arguments for going through parliament properly is that withdrawal from EU significantly affects rights of people. Up until January this year it was reasonable for someone to travel here from the continent and assume they would be allowed to live here forever. There are 3 million EU non-Brits here, what are their rights going to be after? What happens to the 1.5 million Brits in the EU? What about Gibraltar? What about Northern Irish border? As someone who is British and lives in the UK, but had serious plans in the works for going and living in Amsterdam or Barcelona, I also have been massively affected.
If you're going to change people's rights, it needs to go through parliament properly, and then we can have some debate and answers to what they actually want to get. At the moment it's all secret and guesswork.
I cannot possibly understand why you would not want it to be debated... the MPs are clearly going to vote it through, but with a debate we can actually understand what the aims are and pressure them if they are no good.
And, if after two months the opinion has not changed to one you want, wait another two months and check in again. Repeat until public opinion finally aligns with your own.
I get your point - but what exactly did we vote for? Leaving the EU has so many different possible outcomes, what if the leave deal is nothing like you wanted? If you were dead set on reducing free movement of people and the deal we go for doesn't include that, is that OK? It's still technically leaving the EU, so that's fine then?
Apple takes about 70% of the profit.
... I would argue that the "open source, changeable, free (do you mean as in beer or as in speech)" are not factors that most people care about. I think the majority of the smartphone users care about price and usability.
Why for the love of all that is holy would an end-user care about the amount of money the manufacturer makes? Apart from a dick-waving contest, of course? I would assume that the more money a company makes from my purchase, the *less* value I am getting from it.
I think there's a heavy pull back to your first smartphone platform. I've always used Android and I find iPhones very hard work. And people often do a (by definition) high-end iPhone -> mid-range / budget Android and then wonder about why it doesn't feel as good...
I think the lock-in to whatever Apple's decisions are is one of the most risky things about iPhone - we're seeing it now with the new MacBook 'Pro' that nobody likes. If you want a Mac you're stuck with whatever they release. Same with iPhone. Android has a good variety (though not as much as it could be - where's my qwerty keyboard??), and I am hoping that the new Pixel doesn't get too popular and that the minor manufacturers start holding their own. Android will be significantly poorer if it loses Sony / LG / HTC / etc.
Apple's standard lead time for a hardware device from commencement through design and prototyping and production to launch is 8 years.
You mean it's:
(time since Cook became CEO + 2 years)
Bitcoin derives its value from being extremely easy to transact even at global scale,
I think the scalability problem with the blocksize limit is chipping into that advantage (to say the least). A useful currency transacts within seconds, not hours.
outside the control of any central body
But is in the control of the Chinese miners. I for one prefer a local elected body.
There may well be room for a cryptocurrency in the world, but this one is so seriously flawed I wouldn't touch it.
Agreed. I don't miss calls that I used to because the vibrate on the phone isn't strong enough. Can now put my phone in my bag or coat which is more comfortable for the inflated phones that we have now. Can reference public transport directions on the watch rather than hiking the phone out every time. A SMS that is trivial can be glanced and ignored, without hiking the phone out every time.
Having said all that - I don't think they are essential. They are a little useful. They are helpful. They aren't the next big thing, not everything has to be.
On this site something is considered a failure if it doesn't change the entire world.
How often does your weather chance?
Try living in England. Not uncommon to get 4 seasons in a day...