And we fought a civil war in which one result was the emancipation of those blacks.
But you really haven't invalidated any reason for bombing them. All you are really saying is that you think maybe we deserved the same treatment when we were doing the same sort of actions to other people. Just because we have huge blotches on our past doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and protect ourselves or other people from the same sort of violations.
If i understand what you are saying, you are saying that we should not defend ourselves and others from similar acts of brutality? Is this your stance? I mean why start doing something good now.
Because I'm going to feel bad for a culture that supports those acts of brutality and then crys about it. IIRC, Japan invaded its neighbors and then had no stomach for it once the violence was brought to its own doorstep. How would you have spent lives to end that war?
Maybe because we don't support our military raping and killing men, woman, and children like the Japanese did in the thousands as a matter of policy?? Think of scale and official policy and then get back to me.
The second nuclear merely underscores that the US is, at best, a totally irresponsible country whose inhabitants should be terminated with extreme prejudice, to enhance the safety and security of the rest of the planet.
Hmmm...That's funny. How many people did the Japanese Military rape and murder? I think you should direct your irrational hate towards a culture that thinks it is ok to murder and rape civilians before judging anyone else.
Bitching about a company is also how capitalism works, though. I like the way all theh capitalist apologists always forget that bitching about a company is part of capitalism. Their negative appearence can affect the bottom line.
Wake up before you type. It has nothing to do with waiving an yright to claim a crime against you. It has everything to do with an exception to being personally liable for falsly arresting someone. Once you fail to detain someone properly, you bet your ass you are personally liable if you illegally detained them.
Just a stupid question, but what's the big fucking deal about showing a receipt? I can understand about not wanting your pockets checked, etc... but showing a receipt?
It's about the same size of the big fucking deal of not showing the receipt. It looks like the blogger didn't have a serious stance on not showing it until they decided to detain his ENTIRE family. Then he decided to be a little pissy. If i'm in a hurry i don't show my receipt either.
If a person is being a douchebag to to the cop, why will the cop not be a douchebag in return?
You realize how childish you sound. I know why you posted as an AC. I can understand why the blogger didn't want to cooperate with the Officer. He was the one who called the officer and the officer didn't do anything about the employees obstructing the car from leaving. Instead he decided to investigate the stolen property non-allegation. Wouldn't you be a little pissed if the Officer refused to defend your right of movement?
So in his effort to make a point about circuit city, he called the cops on the emergency line. Rather than sticking to the issue of being prevented from leaving (his entire family, no less, so multiple counts) he pissed off the one guy who could have written a ticket and arrested people to try and make a second point that he may have been technically correct about, but not in principal.
Are you retarded? Most places want you to call the police through the 911 phone number. That's how you get a hold of the police. Secondly, he did stick to the point but it appears he might have become non-cooperative when the Officer didn't arrest the people that were falsely arresting his ENTIRE family. I would be a little miffed too if the police arrived and didn't yell at the employees that were breaking the law.
Mean you have to abide by their rules? Yes. They can detain you if they think you are stealing their goods. They can preserve evidence by taking shopping bags and bag packs and what not.
No, you don't have to abide by their rules. What are they going to do? The only enforcement for people not following their rules but not breaking any laws is to ask them to leave the store.
And no they can't detain you if they think you are stealing their goods. Well, at least not without assuming an assload of liability if they are wrong. The have to follow a number of rules before being allowed to detain someone without assuming that liability.
I mean what are they going to do against someone of my size? Use physical force to rip bags out of my hands and detain me because they "think" i am stealing from them? What happens when someone uses the arguement of self-defense when they are asaulted and battered by store employees?
Spin? Are you out of your mind? Stores have been "spinning" for years trying to make it appear that shoppers are required to show receipts before leaving a store. They are assholes because they have been moving closer and closer to the line and they got caught crossing the line. If they want to be so aggresive about their store policies they are either going to spend more money on educating their workers or paying the price via lawsuits.
Circuit city could then of blacklisted him from the business (and told him he is not allowed on circuit city property) by making sure he was flagged whenever he tried to buy something there, after which they could call the police if he ever was there or at any other circuit city and have him arrested for trespassing.
They would have to recognize him to blacklist him. They wouldn't have his name since the police department should not give them information based upon a plate lookup (which would only reveal his father's name anyway).
You are missing a key point: it's not his responsibility to prove what he owns to the store. The store can take a hike because they have no recourse to force him to prove he owns anything. They can attempt to arrest him themselves and open themselves up to false arrest.
He should have taken his goods and proceded to leave on foot and let them illegally detain the people in the car.
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It sure sounds like he hit the nail on the head. I never trust people that are quick to be insulted. I mean if he was that far off you'd just laugh at him and disprove him. Someone is quite insecure.
Just because a piece of police tape is flimsy and blows in the wind... does that give you the right to walk past it when it clearly is there to keep you from doing such? No. Do you have the "right" to say, "Well, the police should be standing there shoulder to shoulder to stop me!!!"
Give up on analogies. Don't feel bad. You can't be good at everything.
What you were providing was a bad example that is completely missing the point. Yes, you can back-up software. Wow, that's amazingly insightful of you to point out, but it is irrelevent to the reasons of having open formats.
What happeneds when the state gov't double in size over the next 50 years? You have n/2 licenses for the backed up software. How do you propose giving access to those documents for everyone? What happens when the citizens no longer can read the published documents? Are you saying the citizens should download the backed-up software also?
This isn't even a comprehensive list of reasons why open formats are desired, but it contains enought examples to reveal your ignorance of the real issues.
Exactly. I see you understand why it might be undesirable to wait until your data format is obsolete. Plan for the future, so you don't incur these costs at a later time. Why invest in methods to reconstruct proprietary saved data formats when you can have an open format where the data is readable without needing emulators, old OSs, or old hardware?
As an added bonus, just think how much more polite everyone would be. Air travel might even become pleasant again.
Having people be polite because they are afraid that you might shoot them is similar to getting rid of all airplanes and saying you solved the hijacking problem.
Honestly, if someone in front of you opened up a camera and started recording even a short bit of the movie wouldn't that piss you off?
Like OMG! That would like totally piss me off. How can i enjoy the movie if that woman is going to use that noisy device to record the movie?? It is like so distracting. You'd think they would make video cameras that didn't make noise when they record so they wouldn't annoy people.
Why don't they just tax all the extremely profitable businesses on the boardwalk since they all benefit from the main draw of the ocean? And if you go to any of the businesses you are indirectly benefiting from the beach because they wouldn't be in business if it wasn't for the beach (think boardwalk in tom's river, nj). Everyone who likes the night life down there benefits from the beach because that's what gets everyone down there. Have a summer "vacation" tax to cover beach benefits. Just think about the number of people you wouldn't have to employee to work the access points onto the beach.
It's even more crazy that year round residents of the counties/municipalites don't get free beach passes even though they have to put up with the thousands of Bennies and Shoebies. You'd think they would at least give a free or reduced pass to year round residents and give them a bunch of guest passes for when their family comes to visit. Instead as a resident you put up with all the assholes and all the traffic during the summer and still get robbed when family visits you.
Yes but you are running it on their network. I am sure they will just shut you off. Not real hard to block all server ports as well. IE make so the IPhone can go out on port 80 but no one can get in on port 80.
You are aware that you can run it over WiFi and not the phone network, right? How again are they going to block my ports on my OWN network?
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And we fought a civil war in which one result was the emancipation of those blacks.
But you really haven't invalidated any reason for bombing them. All you are really saying is that you think maybe we deserved the same treatment when we were doing the same sort of actions to other people. Just because we have huge blotches on our past doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and protect ourselves or other people from the same sort of violations.
If i understand what you are saying, you are saying that we should not defend ourselves and others from similar acts of brutality? Is this your stance? I mean why start doing something good now.
Because I'm going to feel bad for a culture that supports those acts of brutality and then crys about it. IIRC, Japan invaded its neighbors and then had no stomach for it once the violence was brought to its own doorstep. How would you have spent lives to end that war?
Maybe because we don't support our military raping and killing men, woman, and children like the Japanese did in the thousands as a matter of policy?? Think of scale and official policy and then get back to me.
Wake up before you type. It has nothing to do with waiving an yright to claim a crime against you. It has everything to do with an exception to being personally liable for falsly arresting someone. Once you fail to detain someone properly, you bet your ass you are personally liable if you illegally detained them.
And no they can't detain you if they think you are stealing their goods. Well, at least not without assuming an assload of liability if they are wrong. The have to follow a number of rules before being allowed to detain someone without assuming that liability.
I mean what are they going to do against someone of my size? Use physical force to rip bags out of my hands and detain me because they "think" i am stealing from them? What happens when someone uses the arguement of self-defense when they are asaulted and battered by store employees?
Spin? Are you out of your mind? Stores have been "spinning" for years trying to make it appear that shoppers are required to show receipts before leaving a store. They are assholes because they have been moving closer and closer to the line and they got caught crossing the line. If they want to be so aggresive about their store policies they are either going to spend more money on educating their workers or paying the price via lawsuits.
Circuit city could then of blacklisted him from the business (and told him he is not allowed on circuit city property) by making sure he was flagged whenever he tried to buy something there, after which they could call the police if he ever was there or at any other circuit city and have him arrested for trespassing.
They would have to recognize him to blacklist him. They wouldn't have his name since the police department should not give them information based upon a plate lookup (which would only reveal his father's name anyway).
You are missing a key point: it's not his responsibility to prove what he owns to the store. The store can take a hike because they have no recourse to force him to prove he owns anything. They can attempt to arrest him themselves and open themselves up to false arrest.
He should have taken his goods and proceded to leave on foot and let them illegally detain the people in the car.
It sure sounds like he hit the nail on the head. I never trust people that are quick to be insulted. I mean if he was that far off you'd just laugh at him and disprove him. Someone is quite insecure.
Just because a piece of police tape is flimsy and blows in the wind... does that give you the right to walk past it when it clearly is there to keep you from doing such? No. Do you have the "right" to say, "Well, the police should be standing there shoulder to shoulder to stop me!!!"
Give up on analogies. Don't feel bad. You can't be good at everything.
What you were providing was a bad example that is completely missing the point. Yes, you can back-up software. Wow, that's amazingly insightful of you to point out, but it is irrelevent to the reasons of having open formats.
What happeneds when the state gov't double in size over the next 50 years? You have n/2 licenses for the backed up software. How do you propose giving access to those documents for everyone? What happens when the citizens no longer can read the published documents? Are you saying the citizens should download the backed-up software also?
This isn't even a comprehensive list of reasons why open formats are desired, but it contains enought examples to reveal your ignorance of the real issues.
Of course, they charge for it.
Exactly. I see you understand why it might be undesirable to wait until your data format is obsolete. Plan for the future, so you don't incur these costs at a later time. Why invest in methods to reconstruct proprietary saved data formats when you can have an open format where the data is readable without needing emulators, old OSs, or old hardware?
toleraen said: I'll make sure to go home and destroy my old copies of Office 4.0, Office 97, and Office 2000.
How many people are using corporate gov't copies of office at home? Good luck reading public archived gov't documents.
I think you are intentionally missing the point now...
You also didn't realize that Activation isn't going to work forever when you go to install. Don't worry, it's early in the morning.
As an added bonus, just think how much more polite everyone would be. Air travel might even become pleasant again.
Having people be polite because they are afraid that you might shoot them is similar to getting rid of all airplanes and saying you solved the hijacking problem.
Honestly, if someone in front of you opened up a camera and started recording even a short bit of the movie wouldn't that piss you off?
Like OMG! That would like totally piss me off. How can i enjoy the movie if that woman is going to use that noisy device to record the movie?? It is like so distracting. You'd think they would make video cameras that didn't make noise when they record so they wouldn't annoy people.
Why don't they just tax all the extremely profitable businesses on the boardwalk since they all benefit from the main draw of the ocean? And if you go to any of the businesses you are indirectly benefiting from the beach because they wouldn't be in business if it wasn't for the beach (think boardwalk in tom's river, nj). Everyone who likes the night life down there benefits from the beach because that's what gets everyone down there. Have a summer "vacation" tax to cover beach benefits. Just think about the number of people you wouldn't have to employee to work the access points onto the beach.
It's even more crazy that year round residents of the counties/municipalites don't get free beach passes even though they have to put up with the thousands of Bennies and Shoebies. You'd think they would at least give a free or reduced pass to year round residents and give them a bunch of guest passes for when their family comes to visit. Instead as a resident you put up with all the assholes and all the traffic during the summer and still get robbed when family visits you.
Yes but you are running it on their network. I am sure they will just shut you off. Not real hard to block all server ports as well. IE make so the IPhone can go out on port 80 but no one can get in on port 80.
You are aware that you can run it over WiFi and not the phone network, right? How again are they going to block my ports on my OWN network?
You somehow "accidently" missed a key phrase...
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