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Get Ready For the High-tech Beach
coondoggie writes "Ocean City, New Jersey is a nice, family-oriented beach that will apparently soon be the high-tech model for seashore lovers and now perhaps geeks everywhere. The city has on its plate a $3 million plan for myriad public services and Internet access using radio-frequency identification chips (RFID) and Wi-Fi wireless technology. A wireless network will let Ocean City expand economic development and control the cost of local services. Wireless allows the City to save on cell phone usage, T-1 lines, and it adds efficiency. The city is looking to replace its ubiquitous but mostly annoying beach tags — which indicate you paid to get on the beach $5 per day, $10 for a week, or $20 for the whole summer — with wristbands that contain an RFID chip. Yet another cool feature of the high-tech beach will be the ability to track beachgoers — an application that is being touted by parents."
I live in the land of the free....beaches.*
WTF: you paid to get on the beach $5 per day - Australia may suck big sweaty pendulous donkey balls, but at least we don't have to pay for our beaches.**
* Not so good as the land of the free biatches
** Please return to your scheduled why-noone-needs-wireless-on-the-beach flamefest.
Pay?? To go on beaches in your own country, that you paid taxes to? That sounds odd to me...
Since there is a big crowd of Slashdotters who are reasonable luddite-like, and who rightfully decry the unnecessary adding of technology to everything, I am guessing that an article suggesting that what the majestic natural experience of ocean and land needs is RFID tags was perhaps posted knowing that it would cause scorn and derision.
Which doesn't mean I am not going to fall for the bait.
Man, is this a stupid idea OR WHAT?
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Why on earth would you need wi-fi and rfid at the beach? Maybe its just me but when I go to the beach I don't bring anything that would allow someone to contact me except an old cellphone which is usually OFF. Why an old cellphone? Theft is a huge problem at beaches these days leave your average device that is wi-fi enabled and you'll probably find it gone by the time you are out of the water.
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If we take these rfid tags and throw them in the water, will a lifegaurd come save it? Technology vs. the undertow, and all i want is pam anderson to save me
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Great idea, but they're not focusing on the good parts of it. This shouldnt be about wireless on the beach but more wireless within the city. This is a great technological advancement and something I hope more cities start to do as well.
As far as wifi on the beach little people will use it, but most people will be using it in the city where the wifi also is.
RFID tags: great for your kids, wonderful idea.. but not everyone will want these, should be optional.
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I must have misread this, surely you don't have to pay to go the beach. The article has an interview with someone, who finds it disgraceful that people would try to sneak onto the beach for free?? This is a joke surely. Coming from Australia, where the beaches are bountiful, beautiful and free, this is the biggest disgrace I have ever heard off.
Even with wifi!
It boils down to this "fee" thing, again.
If everything has a "fee" attached to it, what exactly does your (local then) taxes pay for?
I don't know; do you? Can you keep track of it all?
Attaching "fees" simply obfuscates how much you really are taxed.
Back to the beach thing; if you have a lovely beach, that attracts people; said people pay for things like food, gas, and shelter, as well as raise property values. Adding a "beach" fee is simply a money-grubbing way to obfuscate a hidden tax.
I grew up going to the beach. Some of my earliest memories are of fun days at the beach. One thing I've never seen in the last 30 years was public lockers. It just seems like such an obvious thing to me. You go to the beach, you can't swim with your wallet in your pocket. So where do you put it? Under your towel and hope no-one steals it? Pretty much. I asked a friend who is a lifesaver once if he'd ever seen lockers available. He had, but it's pretty rare. Apparently the most common excuse is that the lockers would attract thieves. That's, umm, interesting logic.
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The Wi-fi aspect is nothing new. Brighton beach in East Sussex, southern England, has had wi-fi access for years now. I believe it's free too...
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We go down to Ocean City a few times a summer, and at least at one point we're doing there for a week straight. Needless to say, sometimes it rains, sometimes you're bored, but regardless the reason I've had need/desire to get online. I for one welcome the idea that we may be able to get wireless access in OC or on the Boardwalk or wherever.
However I agree with RFID complaints. Right now teenagers stand at the top of the steps leading down to the beach, and 'check' that you have you beach tags. Most people of course buy the tags or don't complain, but it's a big beach and easy to slide in with a group of people or just run out into the water when they start randomly checking for them on the beach.
I suppose it's just extra revenue, but the idea of wanting RFID seems like overkill. All those people coming down are having to: buy gas, pay tolls, buy food, possibly rent places to stay, buy souvenirs, buy random fudge/salt water taffy/sweets, and all the other junk that you feel it's ok to buy because you're on vacation. Do they really need to make sure they are _also_ getting that $5 for me being on the beach? All that money is going to NJ or local businesses, who pay taxes, so does the cost of the RFID system somehow equal out to meaning more dollars, and not a complete money pit. (Oops, I dropped my scanner in the sand again, I suppose I'll have to go report another one needs to be replaced)
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Linus Torvalds had something to say about the evil beaches:
So, I will ask the obvious question: Why would you bring a wifi enabled device would you bring to an area with a lot of sand and water?
Beach towns in NJ (and other high-density states) thought up tagged beach access to try to keep the beach an enjoyable experience for those living in the town. Or at least to offset the impact of the influx of out-of-town beach-goers has on infrastructure and aesthetic. Keep in mind that the closest of these beaches are less than 20 miles from NYC and you can deduce that something had to be done in order for locals to be able to get a square inch of beach.
I don't know about OC, NJ, but a lot of towns close their beaches at night, mostly because of the town liability insurance impact. Here's a great way to double-whammy beachgoers at night: if you paid for your tag and are wearing it at night, the town knows exactly when and where to send the officer to ticket you. if you either didn't pay or paid and left it behind because you knew they'd track you, then you might get caught by the random sweeps and get two tickets.
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Wireless allows the City to save on ... T-1 lines,
How's that? Do they honestly think they can build a wireless network with sufficient capacity for an entire city? Presumably, they want to replace local T-1 connections (from the telecom exchange to customers) with WLAN. But with the limited number of channels available, they'll run out of bandwidth in no time (esp. near the exchange).
Maybe I completely missed the point in capitalism 101, but why do you have to pay to go to the beach?
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With the exception of a few private beaches attached to sea-side hotels, I don't think I've ever, or will ever, pay to go to a beach. The concept sounds ridiculous to my European brain
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hmm.. then thinking about it a little more...
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i'm paying $30 a day to get into the national park in order to pay ~$100 for a lift ticket to ski...
supply, demand... i get it!
having to wear a tag too.... at least here its cos some company had to shell out for the lift towers, to fuel the motors, and of course someone has to pay the lifties a minimum drinking wage
( at least this year theres snow is all i can say! )
The register reported on an experiment by Belgian scientists to implant RFID tags in teeth.
Belgian implants RFID chip in tooth
At least you will know where your dentures are, if you lose them.
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for my family and my dollars to leave this cesspool. Beach tags at the beach for $5/$10 a day? 7-8 dollar cheesburgers on the boardwalk without fries? Ocean city used to be a family friendly destination, but its turning into a playground for the rich. Now a network that monitors all of its visitors? No longer family friendly in my book. Its a shame to see this place degrade in such a short period of time. I've been going down there since I was a kid. Not anymore.
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I think that it is time that the USA puts together some Federal investment into national infrastructure. The Internet is a highway, and just as much as the federal highways repay themselves many times over from the increased economic activity they generate, so to will pervasive broadband.
We should have broadband wireless in the entire northeast corridor, and along all the major highways and railways. All the trains, commuter and Amtrak, should also offer free public wireless service. How much could it cost? A few billion dollars? A hundred billion dollars? So what? WE've blown that much on stupider stuff, and wireless would be a national shot in the arm.
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I've been to beaches in the England, beaches in Australia, beaches in Spain, beaches in France and beaches in Scotland and haven't had to pay for any of them. All of them, the Australian ones in particular have been prisine, despite the large number of people using them, and with good facilities.
I certainly wouldn't want to have to pay to go to the beach, I mean what next, would you have to pay to go the park, or to a national park or walk by a lake or a mountain ? Madness.
IT professionals across the eastern shore experience a surge in sand and saltwater repairs after employees return from vacation.
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Ocean City, NJ - You can bring your laptop to the beach, but no pina colada.
I'm not sure ubiquitous wireless is enough to entice nerds to visit. Not only do they forbid drinking on the sand, but you can't buy alcohol in any form. The nearest place that sells it is back on the mainland.
Furthermore, many New Jersey/Philly types think that the smell of nicotine gives the seabreeze a certain "New Jersey authenticity," and that the beach is nature's ashtray.
Nonetheless, it is one of the safer beaches to visit with a plethora of lifeguards.
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As a Texan I must say I would NEVER pay for my RIGHT to be on PUBLIC PROPERTY. I can see paying to bring my car along with and I have no problem with that, but to change people to be on the beach is an outrage.
Jebus! New Jersey is screwed up. Here in Michigan we have 60 times the coastline that NJ has and we dont gouge our residents by charging for beach access.
how about not wasting money on stupid crap instead of finding different ways to suck money out of the residents.
what's next? an Air tax? Charging the family $25.00 per person that breathes inside the state. you get a $50.00 fine of you dont have your breathing bracelet.
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at least last summer it didn't, the beaches were free. Wildwood does have a reputation as a vulgar blue collar sort of place, which only adds to the charm for me.
I've been to Ocean City, NJ every summer for 10+ years.
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Ocean City has a large life guard staff. A lot of people (esp. from Philly) visit this beach. The guards aren't just guys sitting around getting a tan-- they actively monitor the beach. There's a stand every hundred yards or so, with 2-3 guards to a stand. I estimate at least 200 lifeguards are on the beach on a normal day. In a given week, I've seen 3-4 saves done.
By using the beach during lifeguard hours, you automatically give them consent to perform first aid, saves, CPR, etc. in the event of an emergency. Being that many beach-goers are not locals (shoobies), it would not be fair to charge a tax to citizens for a service used in a large portion by outsiders. By paying for a beach tag, you are supporting this public service that is not supported by taxes alone. The tags are only $20 for the season. I think that's a small price to pay for safety and compared to what they could charge.
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For the record, you may use the beach for free after life guards have left (5PM I believe).
Seriously, though-- if every beach in the world is going to be overrun by loud-mouthed douches talking to Bob about the documents for my entire vacation, I'm hiring that guy from the old comic book ads to come around and deliver some sand-kicking!
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20$ is the price for the entire summer
10$ is the price for a week
5$ is the price for a day.
(btw, if you snap them up early, it's 15$% for the season)
This pays for the
1- DAILY sweeping of the beach with a big ol' sand rake machine along the heaviest portion of the beach (directly in front of the 20 block boardwalk) which sifts through the sand
and the intermittent raking of other beaches
2- the lifeguards
3- the trash removal off the beach/emptying the trash cans...
strangely, (and I originally found it shocking too) it works.. much like the toll roads, it's a pay to play system.. the nicer motels in town (see my homepage) include them with your stay.... so do most of the condo rentals.. so for those folks, it's free/subsidised by direct spending at area businesses (in my case, a motel) and day trippers also pay in proportion to the # of dollars they leave in the town (i.e. little) someone enriching my business at a few hundred a night doesn't pay the 'tax' directly, but indirectly... someone who comes into town for 8 hours pays more... beacause their direct benefit to the towns economy is a whole lot less....
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there are many cities up & down the shore without tag fees, and some don't require them on certain days of the week, and some communities honor each other's tags as they are so darn close.....
Wildwood NJ is free, if you have a half hour to trudge from boardwalk to waters edge each time.....
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with wifi.. the RFID tags are a new aspect..
I've been following this story closely.. and the RFID stuff just came out in the last few days..
My hotel, stopped plans to expand it's wifi access point to cover the entire building because the city announced blanket coverage over the entire island...
Now it turns out the city plans to charge a fee of 6-9$ a day, and upto $30something a week..
(my hotel btw only charges $1.00 a day and $5.00 a week- and that only because it solves more problems than offering it for free--when it was free and didn't work on a customers POS laptop- they would ask for a disocunt... now instead they get their dollar or 5 back no questions asked...)
so- until the city DOES this, or does it and sucks at it... local expansion plans are frozen....
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I think they should just tag your ear like Marlin Perkins did on Wild Kingdom. According to the show, you wouldn't notice it at all. And some guy can just track you down using a radio with a funky antenna.
The tags they currently use attach to your clothing. Forcing everyone to wear a wristband will ruin their tans.
Oh, great.
One of the big issues they're going to "solve" is that people on the beach don't like being asked to show their beach tags. But the shiny new RFID tags, they can check at the beach entrance, meaning that they won't get hassled on the beach. Hey, here's a question: couldn't that particular problem be solved more cheaply by checking non-RFID badges at the entrance?
But hey, way to spend some bucks there.
The mob probably gets a cut or something. Ocean City MD doesn't charge any fees for beach access. It also has free (though somewhat limited) parking on the beaches.
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Who do you think pays for the life guards, beach patrol, cleaning, shore maintenance? The tax payers, so in Maryland, all the people who don't use the beach are paying for your fun. In NJ the people who use it are charged.
Just like gas prices. In america we think we only pay 3-4$ per gallon, while in Europe, they pay $7. However, most Americans forget that we just spent a TRILLION dollars make sure the oil keeps coming.
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You guys all miss the point that these could save lives.
If they can pick up your signal they can track you and find you when you get dragged out to see. This could save hundreds of lives just by giving them a rough area to look in even if they can't pin point the person directly.
How did you guys miss such an obvious thing?
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Let's see...
Beach tag: $5-$7.
Parking at beach: $10-$25, depending on the demand.
So now, for a family of 4, you've spent a max of $53, and you haven't even put one foot in the sand yet.
And the food prices are no better than a theme park or a ballpark.
Only beach that is free is down in Wildwood, at the southern tip of the state.
I live in Wildwood Crest and the beaches are free. Why bother taking a laptop and getting sand in it while enjoying the rays and the surf. I think beach tags are the worst idea for using public land and since it is free where I'm at they get the beaches clean without the tag money.
In Florida, it's typically free to go to a beach. Parking on the beach or near the beach might cost you, however. Of course, DON'T TRY TO DRINK ON THE BEACH!
I really would not like to be tracked when and where I went on the beach. Can they associate the tag with a name and address?
all local traffic will stay local.
the plans include all city workers who travel around town using wifi/ip phones...
(no cells) and all incity network traffic to stay on this network...
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Why on earth would you need wi-fi and rfid at the beach?
Would you rather spend your time at the office or at the beach? This is something that's been a long time cumming. Prototype systems, such as the business leisure suit, were bulky but they get the idea across. The management class can do their jobs anywhere, if only they have the right support. RFID is vital for upper management, who need to keep tabs on their workers too, not to mention pesky reporters, protesters and other losers who care. Finally, America's ruling elite can reward themselves with healthy lifestyles. Imagine being free of wire jumbles, office clutter and face to face interaction with other people. Free coke for everybody!
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I went there a few years ago and I wasn't impressed. It's basically a skinny island a few miles long, but only wide enough for 2 streets N/S. It was extremely crowded and the beaches were full of garbage. Jazzing it up with high-tech frills that you go on vacation to get away from won't make it a good place to vacation. I recommend Rehoboth Beach, Delaware instead. 1/10th the people, but it's clean and still has a nice boardwalk as well.
Ocean city, NJ? Cue the Chris Hanson jokes...
I'll take Oregon's 362 miles of free access public beaches (the entire length of Oregon's coastline) over paid access "public" beach with RFID wristbands any day. And most of the beaches in towns have at least one public hotspot available somewhere along the beach.
as some have pointed out the existence of beach fees in NJ is to defer the cost of maintenance and safety with the tourists. many nj beach towns have populations in the hundreds but are visited by tens of thousands of out-of-towners who need saving and cleaning up after. most towns have a resident, and non-resident rate. it seems alien, i suppose, to many people, but as a jersey shore native it makes perfect sense to me. that said, it is pretty well excepted that some of the beach towns have certainly used fees as a means of exclusion. sometimes racially motivated, others motivated by class distinction. it continues in some localities despite varying levels of protest. little known, however, is the fact that the beaches "are" public property (with a few small exceptions) and the towns can not actually charge you to use the beach. what they legally charge you for is "access" to the beach. the fee is to actually walk through those controlled access points. if you enter a beach from an adjacent beach, or from the ocean, you have every right to be there. you are essentially paying for the convenience of proximity to adjacent services (rest rooms, lockers, food stands, etc.) via the controlled access point. spot badge checks on the beach are carried out, but they really have no right to do so. though i wouldn't recommend arguing , as shore town seasonal police generally have a better familiarity with the use of their nightsticks then they do with public beach access laws. you can find it all here: http://www.state.nj.us/publicadvocate/news/2007/ap proved/070628_beachguide.html
Yeah but you also need the overhead for enforcement. If you're not constantly sending people around to check that people have tags, and arrest/fine/beat-senseless those who don't, then there's no point in doing it in the first place.
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Yet another cool feature of the high-tech beach will be the ability to track beachgoers an application that is being touted by parents.
And stalkers!
I've been going to Ocean City, NJ since I was a babe. Paying to get on the beach gets under my skin.
I'm not too concerned about Big Brother. I don't think Ocean City is big enough or desires to go down that route.
But they control access to who goes on the beach. And that, while probably constitutional, stinks.
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But welcome to the east coast.. Crowded, and not cheap. THe rich just keep getting richer..
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RFID is only good for a short distance.. unless you have a hell of a transmitter.. SO.. sell fake RFID bracelets for $2, then instruct the people to enter with a group. The fake passes through, and once on the beach, they see the bracelet and the person is scott free...
Not very bright people coming up with these stupid ideas to generate cash for the city...
If there's one state that would do this it would be New Jersey. If they had everything they wanted they would prefer the RFID chip be implanted under the skin. They love restricting access to their beaches.
Out of all the places I've lived the one with the most anti-privacy attitude and laws is without a doubt New Jersey.
Not only this, but afaik (I've been gone from OC for about a year now, so it may of changed)
The beaches are "free" after the lifeguards are gone
Some beaches don't actually cost money (on the far North and South ends).
So you're paying to have a "safe" beach experience during the day, when there isn't even enough room to breath on the beach due to the crowds. And this helps bring money into the city and keep the beaches clean (in addition to combing, cleaning, and lifeguarding, the beaches have to be pumped every year or so. As in sand is taken from somewhere else and dumped on the beach to make it bigger and protect the big expensive beachfront property)
Oh, and I'll address this here, afaik beach tags are for older kids/adults only (forget the cutoff age, but I think it's like 16), so why would having rfid's on beach tags (wrist bands) effect kidnappers?
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There are some even odder setups down the shore. My family used to own a house in a town called Ocean Grove, which was a small town originally created as a Methodist resort in the 1890s, near Asbury Park. It was eventually incorporated into a town called Neptune, but was basically a single private property owned by the church, and people had to pay a nominal lease of something like $10/yr to continue to use their land.
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I might pay for parking, but I definitely don't pay to go on to the beach - Thats the bigger shame
I thought this site was news for nerds. It shouldn't be news that the beach is high-tech. Hell, the whole thing is just blanketed in silicon!
From there we can watch the progress of the Outsource Ship, and have a going-away hula party for our jobs ;-)
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RFID in addition to no beer on the beach?
And no thongs, or the VERY large list of things verboten on the beach in OC. There's a beach curfew after 10pm as well. OCPD is very good at generating revenue in alot of ways, they're gonna have a field day with this. Overcrowded and over priced, you'll get a week's "all inclusive" vacation in Mexico or somewhere actually tropical for what you spend on just your week's rental in NJ. Add gas and "other" costs...EEK!
Or if you want further fun, go a bit South to Cape May beaches...Thou Shalt Not Share Beach Tags...Under penalty of law.
BTW, Strathmere's beaches are still free, tho I (as do most of us locals) avoid the beach in the summer. Spring and fall...Amazing what fun a near empty beach is.
In a country as litigious as this, there is always some fool who will get in trouble and then sue the local government &/or everyone in sight for their problems.
This is also a country of PIGS that litter everything. Someone has to clean up after them, and there aren't any volunteers.
"Humans find someplace beautiful, converge upon it, shit all over it, and then complain."
My folks moved to Middleton, WI last year, and this spring it was declared #1 city in the US and is now being converged upon by people who want to live there. This is why the #1 place to live changes annually--it rapidly degrades as soon as it gets listed.
I live in the small town I grew up in. I came back when I started a family. When I was young, there were two beaches, one on the NW shore, and a smaller one on the SE shore.
Every summer, about mid-August the algae would bloom and the lake would become "less than nice" to swim in. Today, it reaches that condition about the end of May.
In the "old days" we lived through August by checking the wind direction and using the beach which was up wind.
Today those beaches are no longer in use by anyone. Instead the city built a "waterpark."
We are a college town of about 15,000 with a tourism industry in the summer/fall. The waterpark can comfortably handle about 200-300 people--on those occasions when no child has excreted waste into the pool (which shuts it down.)
The Lake has taken about 60 years to reach it's current state, and our Mayor says that it would take another 60 to clean it up--so it's not worth trying.
The lake is beautiful--from a few hundred yards away, so long as the wind is from your back. If the wind changes the smell will drive you away.
The Big Brother issue is not going away. Identifying people becomes a nightmare after the numbers reach a threshold--somewhere over 4,000 or so. At that point people become effectively anonymous and crime rates start to raise. Less people, less problem, as it is possible to at least recognize people on sight at lower population figures. The effective daily population on these beaches in NJ is in the 10's of thousands--with a large percentage of them only there for short periods.
By the same token, ID cards are not needed in a small town, as it's nearly impossible to go unrecognized. This did not and will not work in areas like NYC.
As far as wi-fi access on a beach--how will they sell you those waterproof, dust-proof do-everything phones/PDA's/laptops? The justification used to buy such devices is usually "to increase work efficiency," but the actual use is usually entertainment.
It makes no sense to go camp in the wilderness with your laptop, TV, CD-player, DVD-player, A/C etc., but millions of people do. Most of them do not carry phones to get work done anymore, they carry them to socialize (I live in a college town, the majority of students walk around everywhere with their phone glued to their head--I'm pretty sure that the actual information content of their conversations is null, but the social content is very high.)
Aussies spend a much higher percentage of their time on the beach than NJ/NYC residents--much of the year the beach is abandoned at these latitudes due to fear of hypothermia. The Aussies also have the benefit of having far more, and far more inviting beaches, thus lowering the population density per beach.
But the real reason that the beaches down-under can be free is that the beach ethic is better. I don't think you can get away with leaving your garbage on the beach there without someone calling you on it.
Americans tend to view "public property" as "belongs to no one."
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PS We DO have nude beaches, some are very long established. They do require some effort to find, because we have an insanely high percentage of religious do-gooders who spend much of their time trying to prevent other people from doing things that they are tempted by but are told by their religious leaders is evil. We have such a high percentage because we took them in when all the other civilized countries kicked them out. The rest of you ought to thank us.
no one day trips to california beaches... utahians and arizonians would have to spend the night..
we have millions of people a day trip distance away.. philly is an hour-15 minutes it doesn't make the seashore tourist trap rich, it generates (currently) just under 300k a year- to keep the 8 miles of beaches clean and safe....
I grew up in Santa Cruz CA-- and NO ONE on the beach got there that morning, that was going home that night, from a state that wasn't california...
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Not sure if Wifi beaches are as weird as some of Oregon's Rest Areas.. They have wifi! http://www.oregontic.com/council/new-wifi.php