That is the problem with the USA, anyone will do anything for money. There is no ethics at all. It is all self justificating.
I take offense to that. Apparently you have no concept of what the USA is really like. I find your generalization contemptuous, asinine, and conceited. Do you know every single American (that's over 300 million people)? Have you ever been here? I want an apology; but at the very least don't make up words, it's only justificating.
Just because theres people who have it worse does not change the fact that bad is bad.
And just because you think it's bad doesn't mean it really is.
Reparations for segregation not slavery.
That is understandable, but still not equitible. Who will pay reparations? The old government officials who implemented it? Is someone going to poll bigots and then charge them if they were of voting age 20 years ago? And how much should be charged? How should the effects of segregation be totaled? I'm not against reparations for segregation because its wrong, but because it cannot be equitibly implemented. And even still, segregation hasn't completely been wiped from the system.
... most of the budget is used on the military and armed forces, not social programs. Read the budget properly, 400 billion is used on the military. We should be spending 100 billion at least on schools but we arent even spending 30 billion on schools. 50% of all highschool students in the Chicago drop out and this is the state of our public school system because we are too cheap to spend our money on ourselves.
The 400 billion you refer to was/is used to pay for our recent wars in Afgahnistan and Iraq. It is not divided that way every year. The state of our schools has nothing to do with cheapness, but corruption. Always throwing more money at the problem only lines the pockets of beuracrats, and the only thing left is bankruptcy and finger pointing.
If we cant afford to rebuild ghettos in the USA, why can we afford to rebuild ghettos in Iraq?
But we can afford all this. That isn't the issue.
Do you think I give a damn about Iraq? Take a trip through compton and if you manage to not get shot in a drive by or caught up in a gang cival war, well then you'll have the right to say that our ghettos are resorts.
No, I don't think you care about Iraq; no one cared about Germany after World War I either.
I grew up in Los Angeles. I've been to Compton, Pacoima, Watts, Inglewood, and you name it. I saw the good and the bad. I've witnissed all those things you mention. I have the right to say that our ghettos are resorts compared to certain other foreign areas.
I can tell you never saw a Ghetto, most people living there are living in terror because the criminals run their communities. Whats your solution?
Well this is odd. No one has ever asked for my solution. If I could, I would set up a military base right in the middle of town. This would help security on many levels: gangs would think twice before attacking off-duty soldiers, MP patrols would curtail drug dealing on the streets, and crimes against or involving military personal in any way could be held in military tribunals, which do not suffer from the same lunacy that civilan courts do. After things quite down, then I would move the base and sell the land. That is what I would do. Maybe my solution is a bit too outside the box, but then again, I'm not in office either.
Compared to many other countries, the USA is a utopia. You refer to the 'ghettos.' Have you ever been outside of the US? Do you really know what people live through in other countries? Do you know what it means to be poor in South American countries? Do you know what it is like to be at civil war for more than 10 years? I have been to other countries and witnissed what people go through there. Our 'ghettos' are like resorts compared to those places. Our 'poor' minorities have more opportunity and wealth than many poor South Americans combined. And if our 'poor' minorities don't like their current condition, then they can invest and work and be creative and have as much wealth as they would like. The American Dream really can be realized.
What about curing disease and AIDs in the USA?
The same prescription drugs used to help Africa are widely availible here, and if one cannot afford them, one can sign up for Medicaid or Medicare.
Oh ok, so now you agree with reparations?
You must be reffering to reparations for slavery. How can you so blatently misconstrue my statement to think that? I believe in extending the hand of mercy, so far as it does not rob justice. Rebuilding Iraq and Afgahnistan is just and merciful. Conversely, using taxpayer money to pay off the descendants of those who suffered does not serve either. Hey, if former slaves want to sue and prosecute their persecutors, I'm all for it! They have a proper claim for reparations. But I cannot support paying off what amounts to a bunch of winers with damaged pride. Hey! I'm Jewish and a Mormon. Should I sue Germany and the US states of Illinois, Ohio, and Missouri? Of course not! They did nothing to me. Yes, they murdered, robbed, and you name it to my ancestors; but that doesn't give me, personally, any claim whatsoever.
You Republicans make absolutely NO sense, how can you give away our money to people in other countries but not people in this country?!
Either you are very uninformed or you do not live in the USA. If you care to read the 2004 fiscal budget, you'll see that 136 billion of 149 billion
(see page 5 of Summary Tables) is to be used in programs that benefit Americans directly. That is 91.3% of the entire budget. This does not include defense funds.
People in the USA are begging for money but we dont have enough money for them...
We have plenty of money and our people recieve it. We even give money we don't have.
Saddam was a bad guy right?
Yes, but the Iraqis weren't and aren't. If we can afford to help them with a few drops from the bucket that represents our budget, shouldn't we do so?
I'll let you do the research (I don't have any articles bookmarked).
Are you seriously trying to convince me? You present an argument without evidence that you expect me to find? Do you really think I'm that stupid? "Neocons" you say. Prove your claims. I promise to keep an open mind.
I want to see some conservatives comment now on how Republicans are "conservative."
The term "conservative" in the political arena has come to represent a collection of ideas concerning domestic and foreign policy, human rights, social standards, etc., which reflect a very traditional societal view. Conservative as far as politics are concerned doesn't necessary refer to being marked by caution or moderation.
...Republicans want even bigger government than the Democrats.
Republicans do not want large government; only enough to do the job right.
... everytime I read the news paper or watch TV George Bush is asking for more money for stupid shit.
Is peace in Africa stupid? Is helping alleviate the AIDS epidemic stupid? Of course not. Is rebuilding a nation we defeated in war stupid? Absolutely not, if we learned anything from World War I and World War II. One of the reasons why we haven't gone to war with Germany or Japan since is because we rebuilt their nations. Following experience, investing in Iraq and Afgahnistan will be worth it in the long run.
... Republicans seem to want Global Government...
That statement is spurious. After all, it seems that some Democrats have brains. No one in the US government would seriously call for world government. It would not fit with the constitution, and trying to assimilate the rest of the world would be overstepping our bounds.
I agree that security is a proactive measure in all cercumstances, but I cannot agree that you are right because of this small bit of evidence. Any moron can pull studies out of his crack to prove any given weightloss program/machine works, so why does this one on website security mean anything? Current practice in the scientific community requires there to be A LOT of studies with reproduceable conditions and results for a priciple/theory/law/generalization to be accepted. This ONE study is a start, if and only if (1) the conditions can be reproduced repeatedly, (2) the same results are produced given the same conditions, and (3) the same interpretation can be applied to those results.
Until more studies are conducted, I'd be careful before opening my mouth and singing the tune of "I told you so."
How much training is necessary to ignore updates, let your server die, then blame hackers (on a machine not even connected to the net)? I'd hire one good linux admin over 20 MCSEs any day. Yes, I'm bitter!
Does the CCIA opposition to Microsoft mean that the CCIA is wrong? They may have an axe to grind, but if they are right, does that mean the DHS should use MS software anyway?
The CCIA member businesses have an angle. Everyone does. But that doesn't make the issue raised by them any less critical.
I think you are refering to the Book of Mormon. It wasn't dictated; it was translated by Joseph Smith Jr., and not behind a wall. If you really want some facts about it you can read it or you can visit this site.
As for Mr. McBride, well, there are many definitions of 'devout.' I know of people that go to church once a year for Easter Sunday and call themselves devout. I think we can get a sense in some ways through his behavior as to how devout Darl McBride is.
>> There is an alarming trend for the opensource community to appear to outsiders as very cavalier with issues dealing with protecting rights for others to derive profit from their works. Perhaps the mindset is "I gave all my code away for free, why should I care if you make money from your game/music/movie/software/patent/intellectual property/licensed image/registered trademark ?"
You're preaching to the wrong crowd. We just like to make fun of the RIAA et. al., not steal their 'music.' If you are familiar with the mess with SCO, then you know that the OS community respects IP. Of course, I don't speak for everyone, but you don't either.
>> Do you know that you're not allowed to have a picture of Bart Simpson on your website?
Uh huh. I remember the days when I could pick up the latest and greatest for around $25. Now games come out for $50, even $60, not to mention collector's editions that start at $80.
>And linux would NEVER have become this popular without the M$-Empire to make it stand out.
I disagree. I believe Open Source has come this far on its own merits. The concept of openness is appealing to some. The price of openness is also very appealing:)
Nope, the original figure is right; 300 W/mm^2 was simply too scary to print;) . Also, if you read the whole article, you'd notice they listed 'toasters' as a possible application.
I've been reading/. for years, and have yet to find what you claim (there is a lot of bashing of windows, and pretty much every platform in general, but that doesn't equate to fascism). I go to my local LUG. If you are going to make claims about Linux 'Nazis,' then you should point to a specific post or LUG or name names. I'll believe you if you can provide specific evidence.
As for looking for these Nazis, well, perhaps I'm not seeing anything because there's nothing to see.
My point was that people will use anything to create elitist groups, which does not necessarily translate into a barrier to market for Linux, so long as the elitist attitude doesn't permeate throughout the majority of the user base and general promotion (and it doesn't). Basically, I disagree with your post. Elitism doesn't pose a threat to Linux because the whole philosophy behind Open Source is openness.
Though I have yet to find a 'Linux Nazi', I think you had a bad experience. It's a fact that some people shouldn't teach. But unless you have some names, claiming that there are Linux Nazis isn't going to help the cause. The good teachers are on distro IRC channels and the local LUG. And if you don't like people there's plenty of documentation.
"The software, using 14 digital cameras around the table, can keep track of every card played, amounts bet, and even tell the difference between your drink, napkin, cards, chips, and ashtrays."
Fourteen cameras, eh? Seems like Big Brother is looking for more than card counting.
I agree with you. A Linux Accountability Project would be a great way to keep track of who contributed what. It would protect linux against further attacks such as SCO's. Since it's your idea, I vote you take the lead. If I can help in any way, let me know.
Certainly there is freedom of speech. But commercial speech does not enjoy the same freedom as private or political. There are limitations on all forms, but commercial is the most limited by far.
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You insensitive clod.
That is the problem with the USA, anyone will do anything for money. There is no ethics at all. It is all self justificating.
I take offense to that. Apparently you have no concept of what the USA is really like. I find your generalization contemptuous, asinine, and conceited. Do you know every single American (that's over 300 million people)? Have you ever been here? I want an apology; but at the very least don't make up words, it's only justificating.
Just because theres people who have it worse does not change the fact that bad is bad.
And just because you think it's bad doesn't mean it really is.
Reparations for segregation not slavery.
That is understandable, but still not equitible. Who will pay reparations? The old government officials who implemented it? Is someone going to poll bigots and then charge them if they were of voting age 20 years ago? And how much should be charged? How should the effects of segregation be totaled? I'm not against reparations for segregation because its wrong, but because it cannot be equitibly implemented. And even still, segregation hasn't completely been wiped from the system.
The 400 billion you refer to was/is used to pay for our recent wars in Afgahnistan and Iraq. It is not divided that way every year. The state of our schools has nothing to do with cheapness, but corruption. Always throwing more money at the problem only lines the pockets of beuracrats, and the only thing left is bankruptcy and finger pointing.
If we cant afford to rebuild ghettos in the USA, why can we afford to rebuild ghettos in Iraq?
But we can afford all this. That isn't the issue.
Do you think I give a damn about Iraq? Take a trip through compton and if you manage to not get shot in a drive by or caught up in a gang cival war, well then you'll have the right to say that our ghettos are resorts.
No, I don't think you care about Iraq; no one cared about Germany after World War I either.
I grew up in Los Angeles. I've been to Compton, Pacoima, Watts, Inglewood, and you name it. I saw the good and the bad. I've witnissed all those things you mention. I have the right to say that our ghettos are resorts compared to certain other foreign areas.
I can tell you never saw a Ghetto, most people living there are living in terror because the criminals run their communities. Whats your solution?
Well this is odd. No one has ever asked for my solution. If I could, I would set up a military base right in the middle of town. This would help security on many levels: gangs would think twice before attacking off-duty soldiers, MP patrols would curtail drug dealing on the streets, and crimes against or involving military personal in any way could be held in military tribunals, which do not suffer from the same lunacy that civilan courts do. After things quite down, then I would move the base and sell the land. That is what I would do. Maybe my solution is a bit too outside the box, but then again, I'm not in office either.
What about peace in the USA?
Compared to many other countries, the USA is a utopia. You refer to the 'ghettos.' Have you ever been outside of the US? Do you really know what people live through in other countries? Do you know what it means to be poor in South American countries? Do you know what it is like to be at civil war for more than 10 years? I have been to other countries and witnissed what people go through there. Our 'ghettos' are like resorts compared to those places. Our 'poor' minorities have more opportunity and wealth than many poor South Americans combined. And if our 'poor' minorities don't like their current condition, then they can invest and work and be creative and have as much wealth as they would like. The American Dream really can be realized.
What about curing disease and AIDs in the USA?
The same prescription drugs used to help Africa are widely availible here, and if one cannot afford them, one can sign up for Medicaid or Medicare.
Oh ok, so now you agree with reparations?
You must be reffering to reparations for slavery. How can you so blatently misconstrue my statement to think that? I believe in extending the hand of mercy, so far as it does not rob justice. Rebuilding Iraq and Afgahnistan is just and merciful. Conversely, using taxpayer money to pay off the descendants of those who suffered does not serve either. Hey, if former slaves want to sue and prosecute their persecutors, I'm all for it! They have a proper claim for reparations. But I cannot support paying off what amounts to a bunch of winers with damaged pride. Hey! I'm Jewish and a Mormon. Should I sue Germany and the US states of Illinois, Ohio, and Missouri? Of course not! They did nothing to me. Yes, they murdered, robbed, and you name it to my ancestors; but that doesn't give me, personally, any claim whatsoever.
You Republicans make absolutely NO sense, how can you give away our money to people in other countries but not people in this country?!
Either you are very uninformed or you do not live in the USA. If you care to read the 2004 fiscal budget, you'll see that 136 billion of 149 billion (see page 5 of Summary Tables) is to be used in programs that benefit Americans directly. That is 91.3% of the entire budget. This does not include defense funds.
People in the USA are begging for money but we dont have enough money for them ...
We have plenty of money and our people recieve it. We even give money we don't have.
Saddam was a bad guy right?
Yes, but the Iraqis weren't and aren't. If we can afford to help them with a few drops from the bucket that represents our budget, shouldn't we do so?
I'll let you do the research (I don't have any articles bookmarked).
Are you seriously trying to convince me? You present an argument without evidence that you expect me to find? Do you really think I'm that stupid? "Neocons" you say. Prove your claims. I promise to keep an open mind.
I want to see some conservatives comment now on how Republicans are "conservative."
The term "conservative" in the political arena has come to represent a collection of ideas concerning domestic and foreign policy, human rights, social standards, etc., which reflect a very traditional societal view. Conservative as far as politics are concerned doesn't necessary refer to being marked by caution or moderation.
Republicans do not want large government; only enough to do the job right.
Is peace in Africa stupid? Is helping alleviate the AIDS epidemic stupid? Of course not. Is rebuilding a nation we defeated in war stupid? Absolutely not, if we learned anything from World War I and World War II. One of the reasons why we haven't gone to war with Germany or Japan since is because we rebuilt their nations. Following experience, investing in Iraq and Afgahnistan will be worth it in the long run.
That statement is spurious. After all, it seems that some Democrats have brains. No one in the US government would seriously call for world government. It would not fit with the constitution, and trying to assimilate the rest of the world would be overstepping our bounds.
I agree that security is a proactive measure in all cercumstances, but I cannot agree that you are right because of this small bit of evidence. Any moron can pull studies out of his crack to prove any given weightloss program/machine works, so why does this one on website security mean anything? Current practice in the scientific community requires there to be A LOT of studies with reproduceable conditions and results for a priciple/theory/law/generalization to be accepted. This ONE study is a start, if and only if (1) the conditions can be reproduced repeatedly, (2) the same results are produced given the same conditions, and (3) the same interpretation can be applied to those results.
Until more studies are conducted, I'd be careful before opening my mouth and singing the tune of "I told you so."
How much training is necessary to ignore updates, let your server die, then blame hackers (on a machine not even connected to the net)? I'd hire one good linux admin over 20 MCSEs any day. Yes, I'm bitter!
Does the CCIA opposition to Microsoft mean that the CCIA is wrong? They may have an axe to grind, but if they are right, does that mean the DHS should use MS software anyway?
The CCIA member businesses have an angle. Everyone does. But that doesn't make the issue raised by them any less critical.
I think you are refering to the Book of Mormon. It wasn't dictated; it was translated by Joseph Smith Jr., and not behind a wall. If you really want some facts about it you can read it or you can visit this site.
As for Mr. McBride, well, there are many definitions of 'devout.' I know of people that go to church once a year for Easter Sunday and call themselves devout. I think we can get a sense in some ways through his behavior as to how devout Darl McBride is.
>> There is an alarming trend for the opensource community to appear to outsiders as very cavalier with issues dealing with protecting rights for others to derive profit from their works. Perhaps the mindset is "I gave all my code away for free, why should I care if you make money from your game/music/movie/software/patent/intellectual property/licensed image/registered trademark ?"
You're preaching to the wrong crowd. We just like to make fun of the RIAA et. al., not steal their 'music.' If you are familiar with the mess with SCO, then you know that the OS community respects IP. Of course, I don't speak for everyone, but you don't either.
>> Do you know that you're not allowed to have a picture of Bart Simpson on your website?
Well, maybe you should inform these people.
>> ... if you don't want to support MPAA and RIAA, then *WE* need to provide an alternative ...
I can play "Chopsticks".
>> otherwise we need to play by their rules or petition to have the rules changed.
I've got a stick of chewing gum. I think I'll go buy a senator.
> consumer prices stay approximately the same
Uh huh. I remember the days when I could pick up the latest and greatest for around $25. Now games come out for $50, even $60, not to mention collector's editions that start at $80.
Why not license a 3d engine from one of those large companies?
>And linux would NEVER have become this popular without the M$-Empire to make it stand out.
I disagree. I believe Open Source has come this far on its own merits. The concept of openness is appealing to some. The price of openness is also very appealing :)
Nope, the original figure is right; 300 W/mm^2 was simply too scary to print ;) . Also, if you read the whole article, you'd notice they listed 'toasters' as a possible application.
I've been reading /. for years, and have yet to find what you claim (there is a lot of bashing of windows, and pretty much every platform in general, but that doesn't equate to fascism). I go to my local LUG. If you are going to make claims about Linux 'Nazis,' then you should point to a specific post or LUG or name names. I'll believe you if you can provide specific evidence.
As for looking for these Nazis, well, perhaps I'm not seeing anything because there's nothing to see.
My point was that people will use anything to create elitist groups, which does not necessarily translate into a barrier to market for Linux, so long as the elitist attitude doesn't permeate throughout the majority of the user base and general promotion (and it doesn't). Basically, I disagree with your post. Elitism doesn't pose a threat to Linux because the whole philosophy behind Open Source is openness.
Though I have yet to find a 'Linux Nazi', I think you had a bad experience. It's a fact that some people shouldn't teach. But unless you have some names, claiming that there are Linux Nazis isn't going to help the cause. The good teachers are on distro IRC channels and the local LUG. And if you don't like people there's plenty of documentation.
... And how many 'fringe' 'windoze' users bash Macs because they're 'too easy' to use?
... Is the Man. I'm going to start printing T-shirts that say "SCO is smoking crack."
"The software, using 14 digital cameras around the table, can keep track of every card played, amounts bet, and even tell the difference between your drink, napkin, cards, chips, and ashtrays."
Fourteen cameras, eh? Seems like Big Brother is looking for more than card counting.
I'm sure what you really meant was that you'd like to see multiple ports of a game all in one box, in which case I agree with you.
I agree with you. A Linux Accountability Project would be a great way to keep track of who contributed what. It would protect linux against further attacks such as SCO's. Since it's your idea, I vote you take the lead. If I can help in any way, let me know.
No need to worry about that. I'm sure there's plenty of previous "art".
Certainly there is freedom of speech. But commercial speech does not enjoy the same freedom as private or political. There are limitations on all forms, but commercial is the most limited by far.
If you have evidence I would like to see it. Few things bother me more than waste.