Ok, that's a little over-the-top. But the thesis is true enough. I'm sure there's many cases of "gamers" playing dragons & dungeons without hurting anyone.
But you can't really deny that it _does_ happen. A chick from my highschool got into a group of "gamers" and ended up going broke paying the gamemaster to get extra expereiance points. Instead of eating lunch with the lunch money her mother gaver her shed give it to her gamemater
I'd never let any of my kids play that game, unless it was supervised by an adult.
Bullshit. I have a feeling your "specs" are "how many addresable bits does the processor use"
It's great to see all the amd fanboys yell, "MHz doesn't matter!" (which is totally correct) and then turn around and drool over a new 64 bit "extension" (I won't call it a full 64 bit chip). Show us a speed increase for desktop, server, or enterprise server applications.
Yes, let's set those odds. I'll give you as much action as you can pay off. Reply here and we can get the rest of the bet detailed.
Or, if you're not serious, shut the fuck up.
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You obviously don't understand probabilty and expected value.
So your saying I should be forced at gunpoint to give up everything I enjoy?
No thank you. All though I appreciate that you feel important enough to tell me what I should be doing. Like you have all the answers or something.
Christ, can't you see that there is nothing stoping _you_ from helping the afghans? Or the man next door? Or his neighbor? The only thing stopping all us from helping is that, apparently, _we don't want to_.
Maybe you can wax angry against that, and maybe we all should. But starting a bloody revolution only to point guns at the survivors and say, "Give," doesn't seem like a very good solution.
A coworker of my father claimed he wrote some of the TCP/IP stack that microsoft took. He's not sure if they took his code specifically (Sliding window iirc), but he always says that, as a windows user, he'd prefer good code to get put into a program, rather than shitty code.
Hehe, once he tried to find out if it was his code, by running some tests with the software, but never got anything conclusive. He said he considered calling them to find out, as a point of personal pride. He liked the idea that his code was help the net to run smoothly.
Obviously he's not a zealot like you. He just likes good software, no matter where it comes from.
As has been shown throughout the history of computing, competition is bad for the industry. In the world of Windows, where there is no competition, everyone is making money hand over fist on an OS that despite its limitations is the best personal computer operating system in existence.
OTOH, the sector that has true competition - the Open/Free software sector - is mired in backwardness and incompatibility, not to mention its complete lack of capitalistic viability.
Why is this? It's standards! It's why I can write applications left and right that work well in a Windows enviorment (even if I have to bend over backwards sometimes) Windows is damn good standard, in terms of market coverage. Hell, look at the linux "standards."
The desktops (GNOME and KDE) are so different it's not even funny. I'd rather write an application to work on both Win3.11 and XP than one that's supposed to look good on both GNOME and KDE. All you web designers expierance a similar problem, to a smaller degree, working between all the wacky Open Source browsers.
The C Standard is crippled by lack of everything but Security-Damaging-String-Functions (TM). POSIX is a joke. You can't write a simple multi-threaded webserver without bending over backwards to support obscure flavors, just as IRIX, HP/UX, OpenBSD, etc. Hell, us Linux Assembaly programmers have to practiacally fellatiate the Kernel Keepers to find out the INT 50 information, so that we can do our job. And don't say we can just fork the kernel, cause we're writing code for a living, and can't have every one install
kernel-2.4.12-sane-int-50.
But even further: Just look at the whole vi/emacs war. All the vi people simply refuse to bend to emacs (LOL, obviously they don't know lisp!) and the emacs people generally ignore the vi people (which isn't all together unwarrented - just rude). This isn't helping anyone. All the vi people should start putting work into Emacs, maybe making a compatibility mode, so we could have one large, perfect piece of software, instead of two half-assed implementations.
Oh, I'm not flaming GPL advo-zealots, in the same manner I don't flame pinko's for their beliefs. If you keep it to yourself, I can live with you having a dirtly little secret. I myself collect nazi memorbillia.
But the point is, that all this pro-competition stuff (which i don't really understand coming from gpl-ites, who tend to lean as far to the left as Indy Media, but thats not the point) actually harm's the computer industry as a whole. We need standards, or we can't build upon each other's shoulders.
"If I looked further than other men, it's only because I stood on the shoulders of giant's" - Jack Kerouac
Guess what... Microsoft has the exact same no warranty clause. Obviously this sort of clause is the cause of all these problems... offering a product that they admit is unsafe is well... questionable.
See, if the GPL takes any sort of legal relief, the next MS license will copy it, unless a Free Software Clause is added to any bill (which is unlikely, thanks to Bush's absurdly-pro-business-ie-microsoft)
In other words, only the BSD license would be screwed by this.
If we ever want linux on the desktop, we all have to present a _unified_ front for the user. We can't have these semi-functional systems. My question for you is: How is a system that can't run mozilla equivelant to a linux system?
My point is really that this sort of thing has gone on long enough... I'm tired of these half-assed linux implementations. If (god forbid) there was a Linux Corporation, they'd sue the hell out of the Zaurus for Dillution of Trademark. Since we can't sue em, the only recourse we have as consumers is to simply deny them any congradulations for their product.
This device isn't pro linux, it's just contributing to Linux's non-homogeniuty. The average person will see this and thing _this_ is linux, even though it doesn't even run Mozilla.
Damn, this is kinda crappy. Sure it's nice that they put Linux on it, and Opera. But isn't linux about choice? They're locking you into to one browser, and the wrong on at that.
Hello? There is already an Open Source Browser: Mozilla. just like there is an open source directory lister: ls. Any other tools are kind redundant, and a waste of time.
It's really just that these companies don't really _get_ linux, and just see it as a viable medium to screw us consumers.
I think we should amend the GPL and close the loopholes that allow open source software to be sold for money! They've been abused to long!
I think they're all doing just fine without your love, but just in case, do book a flight to Afghanistan at your earliest convenience and wander around the countryside looking for a few
Excuse me. Excuse me. I would go to Afganistan and walk around, but thanks to punks like you in Washington, I can't go there. Aren't you aware of all the embargos we have against that poor country. How can you tell me to go there, and at the same time support the government that disallows me from going there.
You might get a chance to ask them before they they do the honors and send you to your beloved twinky god
Empahsis mine. Wrath of God. All I can say. Wrath of God. Watch for it body, cause when it happens, you'll be on the front of the list.
These people exist so you can have your little life, complete with car, house in the suburbs, groceries, TV and a computer
I never asked them to do this. They're responsible for violence. I, like any good christian (or person, for that matter), abhor violence. I don't cause violence. They cause violense. Therefore, I abhor them. QED.
If only they'd back off, it'd be so easy. I'd welcome any ex-military with open arms back into a faithful and god-loving life. While I may dislike them for what they do, I love them as God's children. Don't forget that.
I know the stated goals of the US expedition in Afghanistan, but raise your hand if you really believe it.
Now, I'm not saying there's a conspiracy afoot, but doesn't it seem odd to anyone that the entire might of the US military (by far the most bloodthirsty group I've ever seen), is having trouble finding one man?
Clearly they don't _want_ to find him, because it gives them _SO MUCH FUCKING POWER_ that people like you want to defend. Don't you understand that one day we'll all wake up and *BAM* the military will be in control, drafting like crazy and killing EVEN MORE INNOCENTS than they do today.
Of course a few of us, like me, question this and won't stand for it, but we're always silenced by non-free thinkers like you. Maybe once you could just back off with your Government-Cheese Propaganda and FUD, you tool.
I know it's a slow night and all, but Jesus Christ, do we have to post this shit?
Maybe you think it's funny, and I see the Foot so I must be humor, but this is kind of sickening. Really, how many people (innocents, no less) have been killed by all these uptight, anti-homosexual, redneck, blood-thirsty automatons.
Seriously, Slashdot is supposed to be about freedom and helping people. Not about killing afgahni civilians or watching while the Isralies slaughter the Palestines. Wonderful. Thank you slashdot.
It's funny, laugh. Right...
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That's a common misconception. While it is true that many politicians recieve much money from many special intrest groups, almost none are "owned" by their contributers.
Obviously once a politician is in office he's more likely to listen to the people who voted for him; not the people that gave him money. I know you're just whining and bitching with out accurate information, so let me enlighten you.
I worked as an intern for a Californian US House Rep, filing letters, phone calls, faxes, emails etc. Actually my job was to start designing the requirements for a software app that would put all that data together into a statistical form, so the Chief could see the data on how many people were pro on what, and how they submitted.
Here is what I learned: In every case I was involved in the data collection process (which was just about every major issue for the 18 months I worked there), the Chief went with the public consensus. In the cases he went against it, he always made sure to meet with his advisors and other Reps to make verify his own thoughts.
When he envitably decided to go against the constituents (which was only rarely) he always gave me write-up to put on his webpage.
Maybe you should try actually investigating things, rather than just spitting up everything you've ever read.
I know a lot of people will give me flak for this, but I for one am tired of the outlaw nature of the internet. Sure it was fun for awhile, with Napster and that sort of stuff, but I think it's about time for the entire thing to settle down and grow up.
Of course lots of people don't want this to happen, because they think it's so "cool" to be a rebel and they like the way they feel when the do something related to the anarchy online. But disregard those people, who even now are probably crying that world is going to hell, and this will be the straw that breaks it's back.
Sure, whatever. Let the paranoid rant and rave. The undeniable fact is that it's time to get a new marshal in town, and if ICANN can step up and do the job, I say more power to them. Let's get the internet moving as a positive force in the world, a force of good to help the poorer countries develop, not as the US-centric anarchy/piracy/porn AOL OutLet Center (TM)
Oh come off it. In a very theoretical sense you are, of course, right. But come on, you don't really believe that, do you?
I guess I shouldn't feed the AC's, but seriously, I'm on the front lines here. I code in C all day and quite a bit of my spare time. I'm not knocking it, and it is possible to do an OK job with it. But no one actually believes C is a good language?
Sure it's ubiqutious, and sure it's easy, and sure it's "good enough" at least 75% of the time. But then again, so is Windows.
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Yet another fucking blogger that can't even handle making a post without screwing up a tag.
Please learn what "censorship" is. Thank you.
Ok, that's a little over-the-top. But the thesis is true enough. I'm sure there's many cases of "gamers" playing dragons & dungeons without hurting anyone.
But you can't really deny that it _does_ happen. A chick from my highschool got into a group of "gamers" and ended up going broke paying the gamemaster to get extra expereiance points. Instead of eating lunch with the lunch money her mother gaver her shed give it to her gamemater
I'd never let any of my kids play that game, unless it was supervised by an adult.
This technology is not in the P4... or anything.
Good thing you aren't forced to play a game that uses the zone.
Bullshit. I have a feeling your "specs" are "how many addresable bits does the processor use"
It's great to see all the amd fanboys yell, "MHz doesn't matter!" (which is totally correct) and then turn around and drool over a new 64 bit "extension" (I won't call it a full 64 bit chip). Show us a speed increase for desktop, server, or enterprise server applications.
Funny, how come I know many professional gamblers that live in Vegas and make all their money at the casinos?
Yes, let's set those odds. I'll give you as much action as you can pay off. Reply here and we can get the rest of the bet detailed. Or, if you're not serious, shut the fuck up.
You obviously don't understand probabilty and expected value.
what gives you the right to control what I do with it?
The GPL, for one thing.
So your saying I should be forced at gunpoint to give up everything I enjoy?
No thank you. All though I appreciate that you feel important enough to tell me what I should be doing. Like you have all the answers or something.
Christ, can't you see that there is nothing stoping _you_ from helping the afghans? Or the man next door? Or his neighbor? The only thing stopping all us from helping is that, apparently, _we don't want to_.
Maybe you can wax angry against that, and maybe we all should. But starting a bloody revolution only to point guns at the survivors and say, "Give," doesn't seem like a very good solution.
A coworker of my father claimed he wrote some of the TCP/IP stack that microsoft took. He's not sure if they took his code specifically (Sliding window iirc), but he always says that, as a windows user, he'd prefer good code to get put into a program, rather than shitty code.
Hehe, once he tried to find out if it was his code, by running some tests with the software, but never got anything conclusive. He said he considered calling them to find out, as a point of personal pride. He liked the idea that his code was help the net to run smoothly.
Obviously he's not a zealot like you. He just likes good software, no matter where it comes from.
As has been shown throughout the history of computing, competition is bad for the industry. In the world of Windows, where there is no competition, everyone is making money hand over fist on an OS that despite its limitations is the best personal computer operating system in existence.
OTOH, the sector that has true competition - the Open/Free software sector - is mired in backwardness and incompatibility, not to mention its complete lack of capitalistic viability.
Why is this? It's standards! It's why I can write applications left and right that work well in a Windows enviorment (even if I have to bend over backwards sometimes) Windows is damn good standard, in terms of market coverage. Hell, look at the linux "standards."
The desktops (GNOME and KDE) are so different it's not even funny. I'd rather write an application to work on both Win3.11 and XP than one that's supposed to look good on both GNOME and KDE. All you web designers expierance a similar problem, to a smaller degree, working between all the wacky Open Source browsers.
The C Standard is crippled by lack of everything but Security-Damaging-String-Functions (TM). POSIX is a joke. You can't write a simple multi-threaded webserver without bending over backwards to support obscure flavors, just as IRIX, HP/UX, OpenBSD, etc. Hell, us Linux Assembaly programmers have to practiacally fellatiate the Kernel Keepers to find out the INT 50 information, so that we can do our job. And don't say we can just fork the kernel, cause we're writing code for a living, and can't have every one install kernel-2.4.12-sane-int-50.
But even further: Just look at the whole vi/emacs war. All the vi people simply refuse to bend to emacs (LOL, obviously they don't know lisp!) and the emacs people generally ignore the vi people (which isn't all together unwarrented - just rude). This isn't helping anyone. All the vi people should start putting work into Emacs, maybe making a compatibility mode, so we could have one large, perfect piece of software, instead of two half-assed implementations.
Oh, I'm not flaming GPL advo-zealots, in the same manner I don't flame pinko's for their beliefs. If you keep it to yourself, I can live with you having a dirtly little secret. I myself collect nazi memorbillia.
But the point is, that all this pro-competition stuff (which i don't really understand coming from gpl-ites, who tend to lean as far to the left as Indy Media, but thats not the point) actually harm's the computer industry as a whole. We need standards, or we can't build upon each other's shoulders.
"If I looked further than other men, it's only because I stood on the shoulders of giant's" - Jack Kerouac
Guess what... Microsoft has the exact same no warranty clause. Obviously this sort of clause is the cause of all these problems... offering a product that they admit is unsafe is well... questionable.
See, if the GPL takes any sort of legal relief, the next MS license will copy it, unless a Free Software Clause is added to any bill (which is unlikely, thanks to Bush's absurdly-pro-business-ie-microsoft)
In other words, only the BSD license would be screwed by this.
If we ever want linux on the desktop, we all have to present a _unified_ front for the user. We can't have these semi-functional systems. My question for you is: How is a system that can't run mozilla equivelant to a linux system?
Yeah, but where's Mozilla?
My point is really that this sort of thing has gone on long enough... I'm tired of these half-assed linux implementations. If (god forbid) there was a Linux Corporation, they'd sue the hell out of the Zaurus for Dillution of Trademark. Since we can't sue em, the only recourse we have as consumers is to simply deny them any congradulations for their product.
This device isn't pro linux, it's just contributing to Linux's non-homogeniuty. The average person will see this and thing _this_ is linux, even though it doesn't even run Mozilla.
Ludicris.
Damn, this is kinda crappy. Sure it's nice that they put Linux on it, and Opera. But isn't linux about choice? They're locking you into to one browser, and the wrong on at that.
Hello? There is already an Open Source Browser: Mozilla. just like there is an open source directory lister: ls. Any other tools are kind redundant, and a waste of time.
It's really just that these companies don't really _get_ linux, and just see it as a viable medium to screw us consumers.
I think we should amend the GPL and close the loopholes that allow open source software to be sold for money! They've been abused to long!
I think they're all doing just fine without your love, but just in case, do book a flight to Afghanistan at your earliest convenience and wander around the countryside looking for a few
Excuse me. Excuse me. I would go to Afganistan and walk around, but thanks to punks like you in Washington, I can't go there. Aren't you aware of all the embargos we have against that poor country. How can you tell me to go there, and at the same time support the government that disallows me from going there.
You might get a chance to ask them before they they do the honors and send you to your beloved twinky god
Empahsis mine. Wrath of God. All I can say. Wrath of God. Watch for it body, cause when it happens, you'll be on the front of the list.
These people exist so you can have your little life, complete with car, house in the suburbs, groceries, TV and a computer
I never asked them to do this. They're responsible for violence. I, like any good christian (or person, for that matter), abhor violence. I don't cause violence. They cause violense. Therefore, I abhor them. QED.
If only they'd back off, it'd be so easy. I'd welcome any ex-military with open arms back into a faithful and god-loving life. While I may dislike them for what they do, I love them as God's children. Don't forget that.
I know the stated goals of the US expedition in Afghanistan, but raise your hand if you really believe it.
Now, I'm not saying there's a conspiracy afoot, but doesn't it seem odd to anyone that the entire might of the US military (by far the most bloodthirsty group I've ever seen), is having trouble finding one man?
Clearly they don't _want_ to find him, because it gives them _SO MUCH FUCKING POWER_ that people like you want to defend. Don't you understand that one day we'll all wake up and *BAM* the military will be in control, drafting like crazy and killing EVEN MORE INNOCENTS than they do today.
Of course a few of us, like me, question this and won't stand for it, but we're always silenced by non-free thinkers like you. Maybe once you could just back off with your Government-Cheese Propaganda and FUD, you tool.
I know it's a slow night and all, but Jesus Christ, do we have to post this shit?
Maybe you think it's funny, and I see the Foot so I must be humor, but this is kind of sickening. Really, how many people (innocents, no less) have been killed by all these uptight, anti-homosexual, redneck, blood-thirsty automatons.
Seriously, Slashdot is supposed to be about freedom and helping people. Not about killing afgahni civilians or watching while the Isralies slaughter the Palestines. Wonderful. Thank you slashdot.
It's funny, laugh. Right...
That's a common misconception. While it is true that many politicians recieve much money from many special intrest groups, almost none are "owned" by their contributers.
Obviously once a politician is in office he's more likely to listen to the people who voted for him; not the people that gave him money. I know you're just whining and bitching with out accurate information, so let me enlighten you.
I worked as an intern for a Californian US House Rep, filing letters, phone calls, faxes, emails etc. Actually my job was to start designing the requirements for a software app that would put all that data together into a statistical form, so the Chief could see the data on how many people were pro on what, and how they submitted.
Here is what I learned: In every case I was involved in the data collection process (which was just about every major issue for the 18 months I worked there), the Chief went with the public consensus. In the cases he went against it, he always made sure to meet with his advisors and other Reps to make verify his own thoughts.
When he envitably decided to go against the constituents (which was only rarely) he always gave me write-up to put on his webpage.
Maybe you should try actually investigating things, rather than just spitting up everything you've ever read.
I know a lot of people will give me flak for this, but I for one am tired of the outlaw nature of the internet. Sure it was fun for awhile, with Napster and that sort of stuff, but I think it's about time for the entire thing to settle down and grow up.
Of course lots of people don't want this to happen, because they think it's so "cool" to be a rebel and they like the way they feel when the do something related to the anarchy online. But disregard those people, who even now are probably crying that world is going to hell, and this will be the straw that breaks it's back.
Sure, whatever. Let the paranoid rant and rave. The undeniable fact is that it's time to get a new marshal in town, and if ICANN can step up and do the job, I say more power to them. Let's get the internet moving as a positive force in the world, a force of good to help the poorer countries develop, not as the US-centric anarchy/piracy/porn AOL OutLet Center (TM)
But they don't have to make it so damn easy.
It's almost like they want security problems. I guess whatever keeps them happy...
Oh come off it. In a very theoretical sense you are, of course, right. But come on, you don't really believe that, do you?
I guess I shouldn't feed the AC's, but seriously, I'm on the front lines here. I code in C all day and quite a bit of my spare time. I'm not knocking it, and it is possible to do an OK job with it. But no one actually believes C is a good language?
Sure it's ubiqutious, and sure it's easy, and sure it's "good enough" at least 75% of the time. But then again, so is Windows.