Yeah, but.... how many people actually need to upgrade a P3/700 system for office apps? Maybe you need an upgrade if you do serious number crunching (in which case, use SETI or DIstributed.net as your benchmark), or development (in which case, use a kernel compile w/same config), but for 90% of the people, 700mhz is plenty for desktop-type stuff. I run a PIII/733 myself, and the only thing I've thrown at it so far that feels slow is Grand Theft Auto III. (And that's even with my spankin' fresh Radeon 9000...)
Actually, come to think of it, media production might be a good benchmark too. Run some computation-intensive filters on a 500MB video, or see how many tracks, plugins, etc., you can throw at Cubase/Pro Tools and still get acceptable latency...
Hmm, how long has it been since you saw "This page requires a forms-capable browser"? ISTR seeing that a lot back around '94, '95, when I first started using the Web. Though I've never had a non-forms-capable browser, not even the version of Lynx I used back then.
No doubt. "What Windows do you have? What Pentium?" "Um, it's Linux on an AMD." "Yeah, but what Windows do you have?"
(Pardon me, I'm just a little self-conscious of my indie/opensource cred right now, since I shitcanned my homebrew k6-2 box in favour of a Compaq with a PIII. At least I'm running Gentoo now, that's gotta count for something, right? Right?)
(hears booming voice of RMS shouting, "Go home, kid, and play with yer toys.")
IANAGA (graphic artist), but I think the one thing Gimp needs for professional use is better colourspace management. As a minimum, RGB and CMYK separations, and colour calibration support. Unfortunately, AIUI, the big-time commercial colour calibration systems (Pantone, etc) all cost $$$ to license, which doesn't exactly mix well with free software.
I'd still like somebody to implement a command line interface for it, though, if only to make pixel-accurate positioning easier for e.g. web graphics or XMMS skin pixmaps.
Oh, and Illustrator is vector, not raster based, isn't it? So it's not really a direct competitor with Gimp or Photoshop.
Why doesn't somebody do this for the Gimp? Seems to me you've already got the necessary APIs, etc, all exposed via ScriptFu, and the code for a CLI/terminal in GNU readline and GnomeTerminal.
It may also be illegal. At least, it's asking for more protection than copyright law provides, as far as I know. Paraphrasing the manual to pass on knowledge or quoting brief excerpts for a review are considered fair use, aren't they? Although the situation is probably different if they're asking you to sign an NDA and claiming trade secret protection.
...and having just tried the Fark test on 6.11 w/static QT (as opposed to 6.05 w/dynamic QT), it's now waaaay faster. Mmmm, these words o' mine taste good!
Try loading a *very* image-heavy page, like a Fark photoshop thread, or some ebay auctions. Takes a long time for some of those pages to render, as if the image-loading thread were hogging all the CPU or some such. One of the few faults of 6.0x on Linux, but even so, it blows anything else I've tried out of the water. (Well, IE5.5/Win95 is faster if you luck out and find a page with no popups, but it's so feature-starved I wouldn't want to deal with it...)
I feel your pain, buddy. But check this out: I'm running opera at 800*600, and it's using 100% of the screen space for the web page, and 0% for the interface. Granted, you need to know enough keyboard shortcuts/mouse gestures to get by, but that shouldn't be a problem for the average slashdotter.
Actually, I'm glad we have some competition in CPU's, even if it's led to the odd bit of bogosity a la AMD's current naming scheme (wherein an Athlon XP 2000+ actually runs at a much slower clock than 2GHz). Lack of competition makes companies complacent, which leads to shoddy product. Look at Microsoft (though admittedly XP looks like a huge improvement on 9x) Or at the US auto industry circa the '70s. Keep 'em on their toes, I say.
Hmmm, you're right. So either the Freeworld.net stuff got taken offline thanks to a DMCA takedown notice[1] or the folks who called the whole Linux bugfix/DMCA thing a publicity stunt on Alan Cox's part were right.
[1] thefreeworld.net also once hosted a copy of decss, and some other copy-protection-workaround type stuff, any of which might have been in violation of the DMCA as I understand it (and of course, IANALIAJA/.W [2])
[2] I Am Not A Lawyer, I Am Just Another Slashdot Weenie.
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> It's the American Way. (The American Way apparently consists of lots of violence along with minimal sex.;)
And which country's way involves minimum violence and maximum sex? I may have travel plans...
Digital Cutup Lounge vs Madonna -- What The F$#% Remix [3.7mb mp3].
The Madonna Remix Project
Man, that's almost as bad as when I was going to see Titanic, and somebody told me the iceberg did it. Grrr...
Yeah, but.... how many people actually need to upgrade a P3/700 system for office apps? Maybe you need an upgrade if you do serious number crunching (in which case, use SETI or DIstributed.net as your benchmark), or development (in which case, use a kernel compile w/same config), but for 90% of the people, 700mhz is plenty for desktop-type stuff. I run a PIII/733 myself, and the only thing I've thrown at it so far that feels slow is Grand Theft Auto III. (And that's even with my spankin' fresh Radeon 9000...)
Actually, come to think of it, media production might be a good benchmark too. Run some computation-intensive filters on a 500MB video, or see how many tracks, plugins, etc., you can throw at Cubase/Pro Tools and still get acceptable latency...
Hmm, how long has it been since you saw "This page requires a forms-capable browser"? ISTR seeing that a lot back around '94, '95, when I first started using the Web. Though I've never had a non-forms-capable browser, not even the version of Lynx I used back then.
Now, you can build a self-powering cowsie dungsie clock. What will they think of next?
Or not. Just tried it with my patched MPlayer, and it crashed right away. I'm upgrading MPlayer to 0.90rc4 as we speak...
Oh, and you may need to patch MPlayer to play this, the patch is here.
Unless the patch has made it into the current release/CVS.
If I only had a 2.5" form factor, I wouldn't exactly be bragging about it.
Remind me to shitcan my furnace and buy a couple dozen Pentium VI's.
Hey, he blew up big for a while there, but then the bubble popped.
Then a rock fell on his head.
No doubt. "What Windows do you have? What Pentium?" "Um, it's Linux on an AMD." "Yeah, but what Windows do you have?"
(Pardon me, I'm just a little self-conscious of my indie/opensource cred right now, since I shitcanned my homebrew k6-2 box in favour of a Compaq with a PIII. At least I'm running Gentoo now, that's gotta count for something, right? Right?)
(hears booming voice of RMS shouting, "Go home, kid, and play with yer toys.")
Oh yeah, ob-on-topic: Hop! Hop! #!@$?
If it's any consolation, dude, he was probably wearing a set of wilwheaton.net underoos.
Oh yeah, good luck with the I, Robot thing and all...
See, over here it's a Quarter VGA with cheese, but in France they call that a Royale with Cheese.
IANAGA (graphic artist), but I think the one thing Gimp needs for professional use is better colourspace management. As a minimum, RGB and CMYK separations, and colour calibration support. Unfortunately, AIUI, the big-time commercial colour calibration systems (Pantone, etc) all cost $$$ to license, which doesn't exactly mix well with free software.
I'd still like somebody to implement a command line interface for it, though, if only to make pixel-accurate positioning easier for e.g. web graphics or XMMS skin pixmaps.
Oh, and Illustrator is vector, not raster based, isn't it? So it's not really a direct competitor with Gimp or Photoshop.
Why doesn't somebody do this for the Gimp? Seems to me you've already got the necessary APIs, etc, all exposed via ScriptFu, and the code for a CLI/terminal in GNU readline and GnomeTerminal.
It may also be illegal. At least, it's asking for more protection than copyright law provides, as far as I know. Paraphrasing the manual to pass on knowledge or quoting brief excerpts for a review are considered fair use, aren't they? Although the situation is probably different if they're asking you to sign an NDA and claiming trade secret protection.
...and having just tried the Fark test on 6.11 w/static QT (as opposed to 6.05 w/dynamic QT), it's now waaaay faster. Mmmm, these words o' mine taste good!
Try loading a *very* image-heavy page, like a Fark photoshop thread, or some ebay auctions. Takes a long time for some of those pages to render, as if the image-loading thread were hogging all the CPU or some such. One of the few faults of 6.0x on Linux, but even so, it blows anything else I've tried out of the water. (Well, IE5.5/Win95 is faster if you luck out and find a page with no popups, but it's so feature-starved I wouldn't want to deal with it...)
I feel your pain, buddy. But check this out: I'm running opera at 800*600, and it's using 100% of the screen space for the web page, and 0% for the interface. Granted, you need to know enough keyboard shortcuts/mouse gestures to get by, but that shouldn't be a problem for the average slashdotter.
Actually, I'm glad we have some competition in CPU's, even if it's led to the odd bit of bogosity a la AMD's current naming scheme (wherein an Athlon XP 2000+ actually runs at a much slower clock than 2GHz). Lack of competition makes companies complacent, which leads to shoddy product. Look at Microsoft (though admittedly XP looks like a huge improvement on 9x) Or at the US auto industry circa the '70s. Keep 'em on their toes, I say.
Wonder if a user-contributed, CDDB-ish database might work?
That's your Norwegian Blue, see, he's pining for the fjords.
Fifty posts old, and nobody else misquoted the obvious Python reference. And you call yourselves nerds...
Hmmm, you're right. So either the Freeworld.net stuff got taken offline thanks to a DMCA takedown notice[1] or the folks who called the whole Linux bugfix/DMCA thing a publicity stunt on Alan Cox's part were right.
[1] thefreeworld.net also once hosted a copy of decss, and some other copy-protection-workaround type stuff, any of which might have been in violation of the DMCA as I understand it (and of course, IANALIAJA/.W [2])
[2] I Am Not A Lawyer, I Am Just Another Slashdot Weenie.
Palm vs PocketPC: This century's Mac vs Windoze