Speaking only from experience here with respect to code I wrote. I remember compiling code on gcc/g++ Unix in 1997. Virtually none of it works/compiles correctly now. Specifically code which was developed with gcc2.95 back then. Quite a great deal of it has many issues with gcc4 now (maybe less with some 3.x.x - but still substantial). Flipside, I used Visual Studio 5 in NT4 to develop similar coding projects circa 1998. Transitioning to VS6 in ~2000 then VS7 lately has been *significantlty* easier. Even my horribly written MFC projects seem to load and "convert" rather well with minimal effort.
As a more personal opinion, I get frustrated when some minor API changes in libraries or ABI changes in compilers causes compilation road blocks. I find this more difficult in Linux/gcc than in Windows/VC++.
"Cultural change" with respect to what? This is a case in New Zealand, how do you factor "cultural changes" across the globe with 1 migration to Linux?... Furthermore, this is an 18 month contract and there is no certainty with what will happen after that.... You say a "few" years. How many years might that be?
"beginning of the end of the desktop monopoly"? I seriously doubt that. If this works out for NZ and others follow suit, then that's great. However you need more than zeal and Orwellian references to bring down a monopoly.
I think you just restated my point. It is frustrating that that is the best alternative.... What if you don't have tech savy friends? Why must I buy more things for the possibility of a better sale? (There are no gaurantees).
IMO Ebay has a high barrier to entry. To be successful at selling you must have a good track record, which is perfectly fine, but for those who need to sell 1 item or small items, forget about it. My example: purchased a webpad on Ebay, used it for ~2yrs. Then wanted a new one, but the only way to recover any cost was to sell the old one on Ebay. People emailed and said they couldn't afford the risk to buy from me since I had not sold anything so big. So I took a serious loss, but I had no choice if I really wanted it sold.
And on a more personal frustration, I abhor Paypal. I won't rehash all it's issues, but my basic question is if Ebay is owned by Paypal, why not make everything more transparent???? Why so many separate fees and deductions?
So if Google is working on a Paypal competitor, I CANNOT wait! As for buying from independent sellers on Amazon - I've never had any problems, and the whole process is pretty smooth. To give credit to Ebay: single best use of Ebay - buying second-hand CD's!!!
I used FC4-test3 for about a month just for testing purposes, and from the few hours I have used FC4-final, it doesn't look there are that many significant changes. The Release Notes and the "Installation Guide" are pretty good starting resources for some issues.
One major trouble I had was GCC4, playing around I found that many had problems compiling under GCC4, so I am wondering if many of the repositories (when they come online) will compile with GCC4 or GCC3.x?... As a personal choice, I installed GCC3.4 to/opt and found it useful to keep a second compiler around for now.... If anything, I imagine that many OSS projects will be forced to start looking into supporting GCC4.
As for speed and amazing things, not much really. I did notice that ACPI worked great on my A7V8X-X, which had been bugging me from FC2,3. I don't know how "amazing" the newer Gnome, OOo and other updates are.
SELinux took a huge enhancement and is integrated much tighter. No doubt some will find this annoying, but should be easy to disable.
I was disappointed some things moved to 'Extras' (xmms,xfce), but that's not necessarily bad. I would hate to have 6 cd's to download instead of 5.
Overall okay release so far. I'm sure there will be plenty of issues soon to arrive! There are some general installation notes I have on my website.
When I was in India people were using their cell phone service with a simple adapter for their phone for internet access. They would usually get better and faster connection than dial-up. And since they usually knew what they were doing (checking email, grabbing info) they could do it quickly.... I have no idea how widespread the practice may have been or how economical.
For whatever reason, my pages usually get offset by a single line and what was formatted to perfectly fit on X pages, takes X+1, which is a nuisance to double check.
I've also had some font problems.
On pages with modified margins and tables, either the tables are shifted or some text around them gets shifted.
I also have bullet problems, sometimes I see 2 different types of bullets: 1 heavy, 1 light.
And since I was not a big MS fan, I used to use WordPerfect. Those documents are even worse. My images do not show up and my fonts get totally borked. The italics run off or there is a shrink/grow problem.
And if by chance coverted from WP -> Word then tried OO. Forget it, it is too much of a hassle to fix. Since I used WP5.1 for Dos, then moved to WP on Win, then Word2000, there are so many documents I may have converted.
Sadly with 13yrs of documents, I do not find OO as a possible replacement. And while I do see some progress in the current OO, I feel that I must have Windows around with both WP and Word to meet all my needs. (I'm using word processors available in 2000).
"you seem to believe that there is no alternative software for Linux, and that all software must be run via WINE."... Says you. (Even though I was only addressing 1 point.) Using OSS products is one thing, using WINE, well that's another can of worms.
"Why not use some of the software that's available for Linux"... I don't make OSS alternatives but I do use them. My personal decision to do such is not the same as a government's decision. Comparison like the original post ("it works for me") don't carry much weight.
Why is that sad? It is purely a case of economics. Even then, better for those that get a better deal on an already over priced software (Windows+Office). Pricing should be competitive and if linux indirectly affects that, it's a positive thing.
Given the state of WINE these days, there's very little that a Linux-only box can't do that a Wintel box can.
Ummm, try selling that conjecture in a 3rd world country.
How long have you been on the web? What about this is new to you? Browser detection is not a well practiced science and you should know that site designers will insist on their preference. When a site says "out of date" it should be known that this is a purely subjective assertion.
"While it is called trackerless, in practice it makes every client a lightweight tracker. A clever protocol, based on a Kademlia distributed hash table or "DHT", allows clients to efficiently store and retrieve contact information for peers in a torrent."
The only thing I'm interested in is: what performance increase or benefit will this bring for the average legitimate user of BT (ie. Linux distro's etc)?
Even though I agree that Reagan was a great visionary, history books will probably not be so kind. Even then I still think is safe to say that the space defense system was misguided. And for the record, G.W.Bush is no Reagan, no matter how nicely people associate the two.
Remember his speech, now known in history as the "Star Wars" speech.
"As we pursue our goal of defensive technologies, we recognize that our allies rely upon our strategic offensive power to deter attacks against them. Their vital interests and ours are inextricably linked. Their safety and ours are one. And no change in technology can or will alter that reality. We must and shall continue to honor our commitments."
And to add, back when IE was able for Solaris/Unix, mac IE5 != win IE5 != unix IE5. I remember using all 3 and seeing that even Microsoft's homepage looked different in each. Even though that was a long time ago, it still seems like IE browsers don't have much in common with their counterparts on other OS's.
IE for Unix disappeared and I wonder if IE for Mac would be around had it not been for the anti-trust allegations. Even then I wouldn't be surprised if MS wanted to stop supported it also.
There was a time when people blindly "trusted" MS products, assuming they were superior and perfectly trustworthy. Now MS is "evil" and Google is "do no evil".... Google is a company, out to make money. They are part of corporate America. At the end of the day they care about how much revenue they made. No different than MS.
I think an important question that needs to be asked is: what do students use at home? I remember countless frustrations when I was in high school (back in the day) regarding compatibilities with AppleWorks, Word and Wordperfect. What made it worse was people who insisted on using graphics and fancy formatting. Simply put it is not enough that the educational institute uses it, but also important to try to "educate" people at home to also use it.
I won't pretend to know all the issues involved in outsourcing as it is currently used. I am curious though as to what people think.
Is outsourcing good/bad in the U.S. because the U.S. loses jobs?
Is it good/bad that a developing country (say India) receives jobs?
Is the economy of the U.S. (a world power) more important than the economy of a developing country?
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Speaking only from experience here with respect to code I wrote. I remember compiling code on gcc/g++ Unix in 1997. Virtually none of it works/compiles correctly now. Specifically code which was developed with gcc2.95 back then. Quite a great deal of it has many issues with gcc4 now (maybe less with some 3.x.x - but still substantial). Flipside, I used Visual Studio 5 in NT4 to develop similar coding projects circa 1998. Transitioning to VS6 in ~2000 then VS7 lately has been *significantlty* easier. Even my horribly written MFC projects seem to load and "convert" rather well with minimal effort.
As a more personal opinion, I get frustrated when some minor API changes in libraries or ABI changes in compilers causes compilation road blocks. I find this more difficult in Linux/gcc than in Windows/VC++.
"Cultural change" with respect to what? This is a case in New Zealand, how do you factor "cultural changes" across the globe with 1 migration to Linux? ... Furthermore, this is an 18 month contract and there is no certainty with what will happen after that. ... You say a "few" years. How many years might that be?
"beginning of the end of the desktop monopoly"? I seriously doubt that. If this works out for NZ and others follow suit, then that's great. However you need more than zeal and Orwellian references to bring down a monopoly.
I think you just restated my point. It is frustrating that that is the best alternative. ... What if you don't have tech savy friends? Why must I buy more things for the possibility of a better sale? (There are no gaurantees).
IMO Ebay has a high barrier to entry. To be successful at selling you must have a good track record, which is perfectly fine, but for those who need to sell 1 item or small items, forget about it. My example: purchased a webpad on Ebay, used it for ~2yrs. Then wanted a new one, but the only way to recover any cost was to sell the old one on Ebay. People emailed and said they couldn't afford the risk to buy from me since I had not sold anything so big. So I took a serious loss, but I had no choice if I really wanted it sold.
And on a more personal frustration, I abhor Paypal. I won't rehash all it's issues, but my basic question is if Ebay is owned by Paypal, why not make everything more transparent???? Why so many separate fees and deductions?
So if Google is working on a Paypal competitor, I CANNOT wait! As for buying from independent sellers on Amazon - I've never had any problems, and the whole process is pretty smooth. To give credit to Ebay: single best use of Ebay - buying second-hand CD's!!!
I used FC4-test3 for about a month just for testing purposes, and from the few hours I have used FC4-final, it doesn't look there are that many significant changes. The Release Notes and the "Installation Guide" are pretty good starting resources for some issues.
... As a personal choice, I installed GCC3.4 to /opt and found it useful to keep a second compiler around for now. ... If anything, I imagine that many OSS projects will be forced to start looking into supporting GCC4.
One major trouble I had was GCC4, playing around I found that many had problems compiling under GCC4, so I am wondering if many of the repositories (when they come online) will compile with GCC4 or GCC3.x?
As for speed and amazing things, not much really. I did notice that ACPI worked great on my A7V8X-X, which had been bugging me from FC2,3. I don't know how "amazing" the newer Gnome, OOo and other updates are.
SELinux took a huge enhancement and is integrated much tighter. No doubt some will find this annoying, but should be easy to disable.
I was disappointed some things moved to 'Extras' (xmms,xfce), but that's not necessarily bad. I would hate to have 6 cd's to download instead of 5.
Overall okay release so far. I'm sure there will be plenty of issues soon to arrive! There are some general installation notes I have on my website.
When I was in India people were using their cell phone service with a simple adapter for their phone for internet access. They would usually get better and faster connection than dial-up. And since they usually knew what they were doing (checking email, grabbing info) they could do it quickly. ... I have no idea how widespread the practice may have been or how economical.
- For whatever reason, my pages usually get offset by a single line and what was formatted to perfectly fit on X pages, takes X+1, which is a nuisance to double check.
- I've also had some font problems.
- On pages with modified margins and tables, either the tables are shifted or some text around them gets shifted.
- I also have bullet problems, sometimes I see 2 different types of bullets: 1 heavy, 1 light.
- And since I was not a big MS fan, I used to use WordPerfect. Those documents are even worse. My images do not show up and my fonts get totally borked. The italics run off or there is a shrink/grow problem.
- And if by chance coverted from WP -> Word then tried OO. Forget it, it is too much of a hassle to fix. Since I used WP5.1 for Dos, then moved to WP on Win, then Word2000, there are so many documents I may have converted.
Sadly with 13yrs of documents, I do not find OO as a possible replacement. And while I do see some progress in the current OO, I feel that I must have Windows around with both WP and Word to meet all my needs. (I'm using word processors available in 2000).I wasn't lucky enough to go, but this guy was. He shares his E3 blog and pics.
This is a Netscape release, NOT a Mozilla release. I'm not sure what Mozilla.org has to do with Netscape homepage's browser detection methods.
"you seem to believe that there is no alternative software for Linux, and that all software must be run via WINE." ... Says you. (Even though I was only addressing 1 point.) Using OSS products is one thing, using WINE, well that's another can of worms.
... I don't make OSS alternatives but I do use them. My personal decision to do such is not the same as a government's decision. Comparison like the original post ("it works for me") don't carry much weight.
"Why not use some of the software that's available for Linux"
Umm, try pitching WINE to someone? Did you read anything there?
Why is that sad? It is purely a case of economics. Even then, better for those that get a better deal on an already over priced software (Windows+Office). Pricing should be competitive and if linux indirectly affects that, it's a positive thing.
Given the state of WINE these days, there's very little that a Linux-only box can't do that a Wintel box can.
Ummm, try selling that conjecture in a 3rd world country.
How long have you been on the web? What about this is new to you? Browser detection is not a well practiced science and you should know that site designers will insist on their preference. When a site says "out of date" it should be known that this is a purely subjective assertion.
"While it is called trackerless, in practice it makes every client a lightweight tracker. A clever protocol, based on a Kademlia distributed hash table or "DHT", allows clients to efficiently store and retrieve contact information for peers in a torrent."
The only thing I'm interested in is: what performance increase or benefit will this bring for the average legitimate user of BT (ie. Linux distro's etc)?
Even though I agree that Reagan was a great visionary, history books will probably not be so kind. Even then I still think is safe to say that the space defense system was misguided. And for the record, G.W.Bush is no Reagan, no matter how nicely people associate the two.
Remember his speech, now known in history as the "Star Wars" speech.
"As we pursue our goal of defensive technologies, we recognize that our allies rely upon our strategic offensive power to deter attacks against them. Their vital interests and ours are inextricably linked. Their safety and ours are one. And no change in technology can or will alter that reality. We must and shall continue to honor our commitments."
Sad how little has changed.
India never ceases to amaze me. No bias there of course :) ... Power to my people!
I'm not sure what MS actually gains from having their own video codec
In a word: control.
Translation: market share.
And to add, back when IE was able for Solaris/Unix, mac IE5 != win IE5 != unix IE5. I remember using all 3 and seeing that even Microsoft's homepage looked different in each. Even though that was a long time ago, it still seems like IE browsers don't have much in common with their counterparts on other OS's.
IE for Unix disappeared and I wonder if IE for Mac would be around had it not been for the anti-trust allegations. Even then I wouldn't be surprised if MS wanted to stop supported it also.
There was a time when people blindly "trusted" MS products, assuming they were superior and perfectly trustworthy. Now MS is "evil" and Google is "do no evil". ... Google is a company, out to make money. They are part of corporate America. At the end of the day they care about how much revenue they made. No different than MS.
India never ceases to amaze me. No bias there of course.
If you error when compiling your computer, reboot and then kernel panic, then ssh won't help.
I think an important question that needs to be asked is: what do students use at home? I remember countless frustrations when I was in high school (back in the day) regarding compatibilities with AppleWorks, Word and Wordperfect. What made it worse was people who insisted on using graphics and fancy formatting. Simply put it is not enough that the educational institute uses it, but also important to try to "educate" people at home to also use it.
To address most of your problems:
Fedora Core 3 Installation Guide
MPlayer Fedora Guide
I won't pretend to know all the issues involved in outsourcing as it is currently used. I am curious though as to what people think.
Is outsourcing good/bad in the U.S. because the U.S. loses jobs?
Is it good/bad that a developing country (say India) receives jobs?
Is the economy of the U.S. (a world power) more important than the economy of a developing country?