I find the trackball to be entirely intuitive for first-person-anything games, more so than mice. Think of the ball as the avatar's head and you are behind them. Want to look down? Push (roll) his head forward. Look up? Pull his head back. Left and right don't translate exactly, but regular mice have the same issue.
But yeah, the learning/adjustment curve is pretty high, it took a while to get used to. And it's pretty much cut me off from being able to use a mouse for gaming. I'm just not wired that way any more.
Yah, I'm not a hardcore leet gamer wit mad skillz yo, but I still prefer my trackball. And I do ok with it. I'm no twitchfreak though.
I got a Razer Boomslang a while back just to see if I was missing anything.. spent a few months using it, now it's collecting dust again. I'm just too used to not moving anything but my thumb, I guess.
Yeah, I am a "3D gamer". FPS, flight, RTS, etc. I do that with a trackball. I can accelerate and decelerate as I wish. My settings, too, allow me to enjoy an intuitive screen:ballsurface ratio, and I don't even have to physically pick anything up to recenter it. I can hit things just fine, and it feels natural.
Indeed, I already have a decent optical mouse (Trackman Marble), and I enjoy responsiveness and accuracy. It takes about 5 seconds to clean.
I have had zero ergonomic problems for at least 10 years of daily gaming use.
Anything else? I'm sorry that you think I should suck at games because I use a trackball, but you'll get over it.
Really.. that's what I've got.. a buddy and I found 8 still in stock at some online store, we bought them out. I've got enough Marbles to last forever =)
Well, that sucks, hope it clears up soon. If you ever try it again, kick up one of those mouse pads with the gel wristpad on it. That at least keeps the hand and arm in a relaxed position.
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Only a problem if you sit there like a lump and never move your arm or anything else.
Even during the marathon 18+ hour gaming sessions I move around. Yeah, if I sat in exactly the same position for that long I'd probably have nerve damage in my arm, neck, ass, whatever. So I don't.
Yeah, my thumb hurt for a little while too, when I first started using it.. but that was back in 1994 or 95, and I haven't had any stress or strain issues since then.
What brand trackball did you use? That might have had something to do with it. Kensington, for example, makes some gawdawful painful designs...
And another bennie is, they can more easily stand in for a joystick than a mouse. Crank the sensitivity up and you can torso twist and barrel roll with the best of them.
Only bad thing is having to always make sure the 'invert mouse' option is enabled for each game. If a game won't let me invery that Y axis, I can't even play it, avatar starts acting like a drunken monkey =)
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With a gel wrist pad, your arm only moves when you want it to, and there's no RSI or other nerve damage.
And you can use it on any surface, since it doesn't move.
I've been using trackballs for about 10 years now, can't stand regular mice anymore.
Logitech seems to make the best ones. Their Trackman series is my favorite.
Three humans once sealed themselves inside a tin can sitting on top of tons of combustibles, then ignited them. They were launched to the moon, on which they then landed, then planted a flag and some useful science experiments. They then gathered up some rocks, got back in their tin can, and came back home to be lauded as heroes. They took a calculated risk for enormous reward -- that is something that people are built to do. These amateur cinematographers took a far greater risk for a far smaller reward, and things didn't work out that well for them.
That is. The most. Retarded comparison. Ever.
There's 'calculated risk', and then there's 'self-destructive idiocy'. If you're going to equate the Gemini/Mercury/Apollo SPACE EFFING PROGRAM with filling a light bulb with gasoline and setting it on fire, then there's no point in discussing anything further with you. These two morons did nothing noble, nothing redeeming, nothing intelligent, nothing that morally protects them from ridicule.
They deliberately set themselves on fire, there's no other outcome for the sequence of events that they undertook. They didn't even do it in protest like some Buddhist monks do. Useless. Senseless. Witless.
But please, continue to worship them. Maybe you too can emulate your cinematographic heroes someday.
First off, we have these things called 'numbers', that can be used to represent a quantity. '2' is one of these 'numbers', and was used correctly, if informally. Generally, when using small numbers in text communication, one should write out the English word, but it's not mandatory.
Second, there's a difference between antibiotic-resistant bacteria and 2 fucktards swinging Stupidtov cocktails at each other.
So we could say that Ghyslain struck Lucas down with all his hate, and his journey to the Dumb Side is now complete.
Seriously. The damage was done. The tape was out. May as well do something fun, get something positive out of the whole embarrassing thing. Be a part of movie history. But no, he has to go and screw that up too.
There's dumb and then there's Star Wars Kid. Amazing.
You're assuming MoG published completely factual information. This may or may not be the case. That's what the civil suit will prove out. You're also assuming that what was published was not published in a libelous fashion. Again, this is what civil courts are for.
I'm coming from a position where I know I don't know all the facts and I don't even know what the outcome of any suit might be - but I know I'd examine my options if I were in the same situation. You're coming from a position where you've already got the outcome of any legal events lined up and pre-absolution for one side. That's not a wise place to be.
Overlooking the laughable application of you being a total waste of skin, you might want to examine this:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=marathon
Broaden your mind. If you can.
I find the trackball to be entirely intuitive for first-person-anything games, more so than mice. Think of the ball as the avatar's head and you are behind them. Want to look down? Push (roll) his head forward. Look up? Pull his head back. Left and right don't translate exactly, but regular mice have the same issue.
But yeah, the learning/adjustment curve is pretty high, it took a while to get used to. And it's pretty much cut me off from being able to use a mouse for gaming. I'm just not wired that way any more.
Yah, I'm not a hardcore leet gamer wit mad skillz yo, but I still prefer my trackball. And I do ok with it. I'm no twitchfreak though.
I got a Razer Boomslang a while back just to see if I was missing anything.. spent a few months using it, now it's collecting dust again. I'm just too used to not moving anything but my thumb, I guess.
Yeah, I am a "3D gamer". FPS, flight, RTS, etc. I do that with a trackball. I can accelerate and decelerate as I wish. My settings, too, allow me to enjoy an intuitive screen:ballsurface ratio, and I don't even have to physically pick anything up to recenter it. I can hit things just fine, and it feels natural.
Indeed, I already have a decent optical mouse (Trackman Marble), and I enjoy responsiveness and accuracy. It takes about 5 seconds to clean.
I have had zero ergonomic problems for at least 10 years of daily gaming use.
Anything else? I'm sorry that you think I should suck at games because I use a trackball, but you'll get over it.
Dear CS_SlappyMcWhiny,
Since you are also of the opinion that any time anyone kills you for any reason they must be cheating, said opinion counts for very little here.
Regards to your parents; they're very supportive, letting you stay in their basement like that.
Your enemy,
Killa_TrkBall
Really.. that's what I've got.. a buddy and I found 8 still in stock at some online store, we bought them out. I've got enough Marbles to last forever =)
Well, that sucks, hope it clears up soon. If you ever try it again, kick up one of those mouse pads with the gel wristpad on it. That at least keeps the hand and arm in a relaxed position.
Only a problem if you sit there like a lump and never move your arm or anything else.
Even during the marathon 18+ hour gaming sessions I move around. Yeah, if I sat in exactly the same position for that long I'd probably have nerve damage in my arm, neck, ass, whatever. So I don't.
Yeah, my thumb hurt for a little while too, when I first started using it.. but that was back in 1994 or 95, and I haven't had any stress or strain issues since then.
What brand trackball did you use? That might have had something to do with it. Kensington, for example, makes some gawdawful painful designs...
And another bennie is, they can more easily stand in for a joystick than a mouse. Crank the sensitivity up and you can torso twist and barrel roll with the best of them.
Only bad thing is having to always make sure the 'invert mouse' option is enabled for each game. If a game won't let me invery that Y axis, I can't even play it, avatar starts acting like a drunken monkey =)
With a gel wrist pad, your arm only moves when you want it to, and there's no RSI or other nerve damage.
And you can use it on any surface, since it doesn't move.
I've been using trackballs for about 10 years now, can't stand regular mice anymore.
Logitech seems to make the best ones. Their Trackman series is my favorite.
More irony.
Yeah, ok, Alanis..
But you shouldn't diminish them for it
Don't have to, they took care of that themselves.
Three humans once sealed themselves inside a tin can sitting on top of tons of combustibles, then ignited them. They were launched to the moon, on which they then landed, then planted a flag and some useful science experiments. They then gathered up some rocks, got back in their tin can, and came back home to be lauded as heroes. They took a calculated risk for enormous reward -- that is something that people are built to do. These amateur cinematographers took a far greater risk for a far smaller reward, and things didn't work out that well for them.
That is. The most. Retarded comparison. Ever.
There's 'calculated risk', and then there's 'self-destructive idiocy'. If you're going to equate the Gemini/Mercury/Apollo SPACE EFFING PROGRAM with filling a light bulb with gasoline and setting it on fire, then there's no point in discussing anything further with you. These two morons did nothing noble, nothing redeeming, nothing intelligent, nothing that morally protects them from ridicule.
They deliberately set themselves on fire, there's no other outcome for the sequence of events that they undertook. They didn't even do it in protest like some Buddhist monks do. Useless. Senseless. Witless.
But please, continue to worship them. Maybe you too can emulate your cinematographic heroes someday.
First off, we have these things called 'numbers', that can be used to represent a quantity. '2' is one of these 'numbers', and was used correctly, if informally. Generally, when using small numbers in text communication, one should write out the English word, but it's not mandatory.
Second, there's a difference between antibiotic-resistant bacteria and 2 fucktards swinging Stupidtov cocktails at each other.
So we could say that Ghyslain struck Lucas down with all his hate, and his journey to the Dumb Side is now complete.
Seriously. The damage was done. The tape was out. May as well do something fun, get something positive out of the whole embarrassing thing. Be a part of movie history. But no, he has to go and screw that up too.
There's dumb and then there's Star Wars Kid. Amazing.
Everyone knows you have to move out of any nearby gravity wells before you can initiate a jump.
Feh, you don't need mathematics to make perfect sandwiches. You just need to roll 20s.
Q: How many Slashdot pedants does it take to change a lightbuld?
A: Christ, it's 'lightbulb' not 'lightbuld', don't you know anything? Get a spellchecker. Now, what was the question?
They play Everquest.
Unless the killing of it is what generates the verbing. Then it's too late.
Borked, for example. And Bobbitted.
Hehehehehe
Interesting, but that makes sense.. I thought it was because Miller was not a member or otherwise didn't qualify as a 'director' for them.
No, they didn't kick him out. Rodriguez quit the Guild because they wouldn't let him give Frank Miller a directing credit on Sin City.
Similar, yet different.
I think it was more along the lines of, his mom was stubbornly clinging to life until she saw him again.. once he rescued her, she was ok with dying.
Or he unconsciously used the predictive nature of the Force to get there before she died.
Or both. Or neither. Contrived? Yeah.. but not necessarily random chance. Just something to think about.
Yeah, so let me know when you learn what libel and defamation of character are, and then we'll continue this 'conversation'.
Or not. After seeing how little you understand beyond memorization of some legal buzzwords, I'm not inclined to continue this.
You're assuming MoG published completely factual information. This may or may not be the case. That's what the civil suit will prove out. You're also assuming that what was published was not published in a libelous fashion. Again, this is what civil courts are for.
I'm coming from a position where I know I don't know all the facts and I don't even know what the outcome of any suit might be - but I know I'd examine my options if I were in the same situation. You're coming from a position where you've already got the outcome of any legal events lined up and pre-absolution for one side. That's not a wise place to be.
Got any more strawmen to burn?
I wasn't even talking to you. I knew your post was a dig at the absurdity of fronts and conspiracies, I was talking to the AC who thought it was real.
Back off, asswipe, I'm on your side here.