You can find a DVD burner for less than $199 if you shop around well. Also DVD-R media is less than $1 from ebay or some online sites. So let's do the math..
$199 for a DVD burner 50x $1 disks
250$ for 50 x 4.5gb = 225gb (dvd aren't 4.7gb that's a marketing trick).
So for $250 bucks you got yourself a dvd that can be used in anyone's dvd drive and is good for 100 years in the storage box.
Not exactly true, higher densities usually means lower seek rates. Especially I would imagine that positioning with these drives would take a little while longer since they have to be so precise.
I own a 15k Seagate drive, seek times with hdtach are around 5.2ms while my ide western digital special edition is around 13ms.
The seagate drive gets around 60-45mb/sec while my western digital is around 45-35mb/sec. Now on one of my systems which contains the same exact hardware *and* software my ide drive usually spends quite a deal of time seeking around which really slows things down. The bottleneck here is *not* the transfer rates.
Windows, Linux, or Mac OS. All these operating systems have 10k+ files and most of the 'daily joe' people will never ever run the defragementer so what happens?
Well you guessed it, data transfer speeds barely mean anything when the drive is seeking all day! I'd rather have 18gb flash drives instead of all this fancy 1000gb per square inch mobojombo.
"Although it is only a week old, the site already has received more than 5,000 hits. Photographs featured on it recently became evidence in one dispute in Half Moon Bay."
More than 5,000 hits? Boy these news sites are sure out of date.
=)
With this said, it's obvious Linux is now much more secure than Windows will ever be. The fact that they admitted the code is 'in-secure' will lead to a long-term security risk. At least with Linux the bugs, hacks whatever are hard to find. With Windows there's so many you'll bump into one or two just in time.
What ever happened to that so called "secuity-aduit" they did were they claimed to have fixed more bugs in their software than the community of Linux in a month than years of the Linux community?
Okay, this is getting to be enough. THIS idiotic post has been POSTED a ga-zillion times. Thank You for your wisdom Johnny0Loser. This must stop, my eyes are going to BLEED if this may contine on slashdot. That QUOTE from Benjamin shitnklin needs to die in hell.
K. N. King is the author of C Programming: A Modern Approach and Java Programming: From the Beginning. He received the Ph.D. in computer science from the University of California at Berkeley in 1980. He was a faculty member at Georgia Tech from 1980 to 1987. He joined Georgia State University in 1987, where he is currently an associate professor of computer science. You'll find his GSU Web page here.
I wonder if the students professor is him?
Noticed in the last message I put "All these devices working correctly". Yeah there are PCI extenders that have 20 slows, passive backplane ring a bell?
Add some scsi, ethernet (IRQ busmaster devices) and your'll find yourself with a non-workable machine.
The fastest drive is a Seagate 18gb 15k RPM 3.7MS drive. Currently less than $200 on pricewatch.com
A controller can be had on ebay for less than $60 (2940uw2) 80mb/sec.
So that's $260 for an 18gb drive that blows away ever IDE hard drive in existence and for a long while. Yeah, my 160gb IDE can go UP to 45mb/sec but as anyone knows, data rate is only have as important as ACCESS TIME.
With WinXP/Linux/whatever installed with a ton of games, you still would NOT fill an 18gb drive.
What about all those Mp3s? Movies? Archived stuff?
That's what IDE is for get a nice slow 80gb drive for less than $100.
Don't fool yourself there is nothing close to SCSI. I have studied this area for MANY years a single scsi drive will destroy an IDE drive anyday just because of the access time.
Whatever crack these review sites are on, I don't know. It must be some good stuff, because when I install an OS any these drives the scsi drive BLOWS away the IDE. Q3 loads in less than 2sec's. I've tried tons of different machines, not to mention SCSI drives come with a 5 year warranty... Wonder why?
PCI 1 = SCSI controller
PCI 2 = Gigabit Ethernet
PCI 3 = TV board/second video card
PCI 4 = Possible Sound card
Now here's the problem, I don't know one person who has ever gotten all these devices working together smoothly. Yeah seems likely but who do you know has 6 pci cards all working together?
According to the record of time and amount of the traffic this site has sustained I would imagine he has a DS3 or OC+ connection. Thus, he is not only a techy but he must have enough money for mad experments that involve die sexin' cats n' stuff
Slashdot is becoming weaker! We need to start logging onto sites on 5-10 machines at a time! Must wreak havoc! Must wreak Hacov! Must.. mussttt.... rreeechhkkkkkkk
Akuampwr has got link dead.
Wrong, the entire RTS system these days is based on how fast you react to your opponent. There is a certain chemistry behind Blizzards games. The form of "Rock" "Paper" "Scissors". The idea of strategy for Blizzard is how you react to your opponent. People who were God at War2 or Starcraft know this very well. They weren't ultra-fast macroing or micro managing Gods. They were smart but fast at implementing their strategy to defeat your strategy. If you get rushed and die, that's your fault. You're just a plain ole newbie.
Get a clue.
That's why it's best to use www.gmx.net, easy to remember, fast & allows pop3 access.
I get maybe one spam email a MONTH.
(p.s yes it's in German, but hell I don't understand German either but works for me).
-Dave
Slashdot Mirror
You can find a DVD burner for less than $199 if you shop around well. Also DVD-R media is less than $1 from ebay or some online sites. So let's do the math..
$199 for a DVD burner
50x $1 disks
250$ for 50 x 4.5gb = 225gb (dvd aren't 4.7gb that's a marketing trick).
So for $250 bucks you got yourself a dvd that can be used in anyone's dvd drive and is good for 100 years in the storage box.
Not to mention you have a DVD burner too =)
Not exactly true, higher densities usually means lower seek rates. Especially I would imagine that positioning with these drives would take a little while longer since they have to be so precise.
I own a 15k Seagate drive, seek times with hdtach are around 5.2ms while my ide western digital special edition is around 13ms.
The seagate drive gets around 60-45mb/sec while my western digital is around 45-35mb/sec. Now on one of my systems which contains the same exact hardware *and* software my ide drive usually spends quite a deal of time seeking around which really slows things down. The bottleneck here is *not* the transfer rates.
Windows, Linux, or Mac OS. All these operating systems have 10k+ files and most of the 'daily joe' people will never ever run the defragementer so what happens?
Well you guessed it, data transfer speeds barely mean anything when the drive is seeking all day! I'd rather have 18gb flash drives instead of all this fancy 1000gb per square inch mobojombo.
"Although it is only a week old, the site already has received more than 5,000 hits. Photographs featured on it recently became evidence in one dispute in Half Moon Bay." More than 5,000 hits? Boy these news sites are sure out of date. =)
With this said, it's obvious Linux is now much more secure than Windows will ever be. The fact that they admitted the code is 'in-secure' will lead to a long-term security risk. At least with Linux the bugs, hacks whatever are hard to find. With Windows there's so many you'll bump into one or two just in time.
What ever happened to that so called "secuity-aduit" they did were they claimed to have fixed more bugs in their software than the community of Linux in a month than years of the Linux community?
Use www.gmx.net, I get no spam. It's free, it's 10mb and has way more options.
Then why do SCSI drives come with a 5 year warranty and 3 year for an IDE?
Clearly these companies understand that these SCSI drives will probably be on 24-7..
They aren't the same.
You can't strip in space.. You'd blow up.
Okay, this is getting to be enough. THIS idiotic post has been POSTED a ga-zillion times. Thank You for your wisdom Johnny0Loser. This must stop, my eyes are going to BLEED if this may contine on slashdot. That QUOTE from Benjamin shitnklin needs to die in hell.
K. N. King is the author of C Programming: A Modern Approach and Java Programming: From the Beginning. He received the Ph.D. in computer science from the University of California at Berkeley in 1980. He was a faculty member at Georgia Tech from 1980 to 1987. He joined Georgia State University in 1987, where he is currently an associate professor of computer science. You'll find his GSU Web page here. I wonder if the students professor is him?
Noticed in the last message I put "All these devices working correctly". Yeah there are PCI extenders that have 20 slows, passive backplane ring a bell?
Add some scsi, ethernet (IRQ busmaster devices) and your'll find yourself with a non-workable machine.
The fastest drive is a Seagate 18gb 15k RPM 3.7MS drive. Currently less than $200 on pricewatch.com
A controller can be had on ebay for less than $60 (2940uw2) 80mb/sec.
So that's $260 for an 18gb drive that blows away ever IDE hard drive in existence and for a long while. Yeah, my 160gb IDE can go UP to 45mb/sec but as anyone knows, data rate is only have as important as ACCESS TIME.
With WinXP/Linux/whatever installed with a ton of games, you still would NOT fill an 18gb drive.
What about all those Mp3s? Movies? Archived stuff? That's what IDE is for get a nice slow 80gb drive for less than $100.
Don't fool yourself there is nothing close to SCSI. I have studied this area for MANY years a single scsi drive will destroy an IDE drive anyday just because of the access time.
Whatever crack these review sites are on, I don't know. It must be some good stuff, because when I install an OS any these drives the scsi drive BLOWS away the IDE. Q3 loads in less than 2sec's. I've tried tons of different machines, not to mention SCSI drives come with a 5 year warranty... Wonder why?
PCI 1 = SCSI controller PCI 2 = Gigabit Ethernet PCI 3 = TV board/second video card PCI 4 = Possible Sound card Now here's the problem, I don't know one person who has ever gotten all these devices working together smoothly. Yeah seems likely but who do you know has 6 pci cards all working together?
According to the record of time and amount of the traffic this site has sustained I would imagine he has a DS3 or OC+ connection. Thus, he is not only a techy but he must have enough money for mad experments that involve die sexin' cats n' stuff
Slashdot is becoming weaker! We need to start logging onto sites on 5-10 machines at a time! Must wreak havoc! Must wreak Hacov! Must.. mussttt.... rreeechhkkkkkkk Akuampwr has got link dead.
Why don't they make the code publicly available? Along with the annotations of the Judges?
Wrong, the entire RTS system these days is based on how fast you react to your opponent. There is a certain chemistry behind Blizzards games. The form of "Rock" "Paper" "Scissors". The idea of strategy for Blizzard is how you react to your opponent. People who were God at War2 or Starcraft know this very well. They weren't ultra-fast macroing or micro managing Gods. They were smart but fast at implementing their strategy to defeat your strategy. If you get rushed and die, that's your fault. You're just a plain ole newbie. Get a clue.
It's "Google fights back" not "And Google fights back"
That's why it's best to use www.gmx.net, easy to remember, fast & allows pop3 access. I get maybe one spam email a MONTH. (p.s yes it's in German, but hell I don't understand German either but works for me). -Dave
Tell that to Ford Motor inc.