ok, it's probably do-able to track a sale that occurs when a user clicks on an ad, and then goes right to that company's site to buy something...but, what happens if i'm at work, see an ad, and go look around...then later at night, i decide i do want to buy that product...so, i go on my home PC and buy the product...technically, the ad worked, but there's no way to track that...and asking the buyer "where did you hear about us", isn't really an accurate measure either...
however, that's a terrible model for google...and what is to stop the sites from underreporting their sales to google...i don't think that would be a viable option...
"Shockingly, the results of its poll among 200 students at the Training Company's UK residential courses reveal that developers are malodorous headbangers playing air guitar to Megadeth, Microsoft Certified professionals get their rocks off to Britney while IT directors can be found sipping the finest wines while Mozart tinkles away in the background. No stereotype-fulfilling findings there, then.
Wow, a poll of a whole 200 students...not exactly a big enough sample size for this study to be taken seriously...plus, what do the british know about music anyway...(oh, c'mon)...
the answer to one of the three cases in there is simple...the cost-per-click payment model is eventually going to go away...what's gonna replace it? i dunno...if i knew that, i could probably be a marketing exec for google...
seriously though...this doesn't solve the problem of judging how popular a link it, by how much traffic it gets (since much of the traffic can be false), but it does solve the "drive-by-clicking" technique that can cost companies money...
I see lots of people posting things like here's your reason to switch to mozilla or opera or firefox...well, here's my question...are all these vulnerabilities discovered in IE, just because it's the browser of choice? if firefox was the browser of choice with the largest market share, wouldn't virus writers and security experts just be finding vulnerabilities in it?...or are mozilla/firefox/opera that much more secure...it's kinda like MAC users saying how the MAC is so secure because all of the viruses are windows viruses...well, that's because no one bothers to write a virus for MACs...
i think *Most* might be a huge exaggeration there...most users just by the box, and use the windows that comes preloaded with it...unless you're saying that most *nix users by a pre-loaded box, and then install their favorite distro...but if that's true, then that's a waste, you're better off just building your own...
Unfortunately, the 100,000,000th song sold was Hanson's "Mmm Bop", causing embarassment for everyone involved...
In all seriousness though, I really like ITunes...even though it costs $0.99 per song, I can put if up with it because i'm guaranteed a near album quality version of the song each time i download...there were always quality issues with Kazaa or Naptster or Lime Wire...plus, the transfer is much faster then those ever were...
I look at it this way...i can download 20 songs for $20, and burn my own CD...sure, now the CD costs me approximately what it would in the store, but it's garaunteed to have 20 songs on it that i like...
ah-ha...finally, a sane mind among the crowd here...you are exactly right...if i had mod points (and wasn't already posting in this thread), i'd give them to you!...
people like michael moore liek to have it both ways!...bush should've done more ealier to prevent it! bush shouldn't have gone into iraq...etc...make up your mind!
Yeah, I'd say that. Govenment is not to be trusted. That a well known and historically supported truth. Just because it's easier to hand your life over to the gov't and then forgo responsibility, doesn't mean it's the better thing to do.
First off, i don't have my head in the sand, and i don't implicitly trust the gov't...but still...i'm waiting to hear better ideas from the all these liberals who have been replying here...if we're not gonna help the gov't out with preventing terrorism, how are we gonna stop it?...you say it's just "easier to hand your life over to the gov't and forgo responsibility", well then, who should be responsible for protecting us??? the gov't has the army, the gov't has all of the military intelligence, it's *their* job...i just alwyas love the agrument that the gov't should stay out of our own business, yet do a better job protecting us...jeez...c'mon, who's head is in the sand now....
at all and had known connection to anyone who was posing a threat?
c'mon, who's being naive now...do you honestly believe that sadam didn't harbour terrorists, and atleast have some cursory connection to Bin-Laden...heck it's been documented that they were in communication together...
i don't think we're hung up on airplanes...it's just the most recent example of a high profile terrorist attack on our own soil...you're right though, the Next Major Terrorist Attack(TM) probably won't involve airplanes...it could invovle a subway car...or a bus...or a dirty bomb in the middle of the city...that's the point though, with that amount of uncertainty, why shouldn't we help to gov't out a little, and make their information gathering a little easier?
completely different situation...back then we were still fighting for all of our civil liberties and freedoms and rights, etc...now we have all of those...and if we have to give back just a little bit so that we can be safer?...almost 3,000 americans died on september 11th, and you're telling me that it's not worth giving the government a little more leeway if it could possibly help stop terrorists???
oh please, i hate that liberal argument...we don't behave like the bullies of the world...but someone has to step in and regulate every now and then...the world wants it both ways...they criticize us for doing stuff like taking sadam hussein out of power...but then when someone gets out of control, who is the first country they turn to for help? that's right...
Reminds me of the episode of the simpsons where lisa buys al gore's book, and al gore is immediately alerted by the secret service or FBI or something...then he "celebrates"...good stuff...
I was under the impression that the traveling salesman problem had to do with finding the most efficient (i.e. shortest) route to traverse a *finite* amount of points...how is this the same?
that's exactly what i was thinking...don't let your anti-MS stance blind you to what they're doing...what if MS stumbles upon a cure for cancer...you just gonna ignore it, because MS discovered it???
actually, maybe 6-month development cycle was a bad way for the original piece to have put it...maybe it should've been a 6-month rollout scheudule...you're assuming that the different development cycles are series in nature, when in fact they can be partially parrallel...personally, where i work, our development cycles overlap...while version x.1 is in formal testing, version x.2 is already underway...whatever problems are fixed in x.1's formal testnig, are then merged into x.2...with parallel development cycles, you could have products (such as a camera) coming out every 6 months, even if they were taking longer then 6 months to develop...
yeah, dell does equal cheap...that's what they are!...cheap pcs for the home user...do you know what it says on the title bar when you bring up alienware's home page...it says Innovate High-Performance Custom PC's...when my mom (or the millions of other mom's) are looking for a PC to do their e-mail and shop on iQVC, they don't need the latest and greatest video card or flat panel monitor...they just want affordability...
...why was the Toyota Camry the best selling car practically every year in the 90's??? because it was reliable and affordable, just like Dell is...
Analyzing the 6-month life cycle from the different points of view...
Consumer - on one hand (as the second link points out), this is great for the consumer, because newer models causes the prices on the older models to drop, and then the consumer can possibly afford "more" camera then they otherwise could...of course, the flip side to this, is that you have to be satisfied with a camera that is "out of date"...
Retail Store - although I'm sure all major electronic stores like Best Buy, Circuit City, etc, have excellent supply chain management, I still gotta believe they get stuck holding the bag a little when new cameras are announced every six months, and suddenly all of the current cameras they had in stock suddenly become devalued...
Camera Company - obviously this is good for them...we've seen it time and time again, with cell phones being the most recent example...even though a consumer may be happy with their current product, they just have to have the most up-to-date, shiny, feature filled version of whatever it may be (cell phone, camera, pc, etc)...
The bottom line is, I still think it's good for the consumer...look what this same type of accelerated cycle has done for the home PC...parents everywhere can now buy much more PC then they could ever use, very cheaply...yoou just gotta be able to live with not having the best and fastest thing out there (ugh, this might be the wrong forum to propose that idea)...
it has nothing to do with the text books being free, but everything to do with the text books being open source, so that professors can change them dynamically like the parent (to my post) suggested...
Another reason they changed books (or atleast versions) at the college i went to was the kill the used book market...it you have to have the latest/greatest version of a book, or a new book altogether, the independent used book store can't complete with the Barnes & Nobles owned University book store...
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ok, it's probably do-able to track a sale that occurs when a user clicks on an ad, and then goes right to that company's site to buy something...but, what happens if i'm at work, see an ad, and go look around...then later at night, i decide i do want to buy that product...so, i go on my home PC and buy the product...technically, the ad worked, but there's no way to track that...and asking the buyer "where did you hear about us", isn't really an accurate measure either...
however, that's a terrible model for google...and what is to stop the sites from underreporting their sales to google...i don't think that would be a viable option...
"Shockingly, the results of its poll among 200 students at the Training Company's UK residential courses reveal that developers are malodorous headbangers playing air guitar to Megadeth, Microsoft Certified professionals get their rocks off to Britney while IT directors can be found sipping the finest wines while Mozart tinkles away in the background. No stereotype-fulfilling findings there, then.
Wow, a poll of a whole 200 students...not exactly a big enough sample size for this study to be taken seriously...plus, what do the british know about music anyway...(oh, c'mon)...
the answer to one of the three cases in there is simple...the cost-per-click payment model is eventually going to go away...what's gonna replace it? i dunno...if i knew that, i could probably be a marketing exec for google...
seriously though...this doesn't solve the problem of judging how popular a link it, by how much traffic it gets (since much of the traffic can be false), but it does solve the "drive-by-clicking" technique that can cost companies money...
I see lots of people posting things like here's your reason to switch to mozilla or opera or firefox...well, here's my question...are all these vulnerabilities discovered in IE, just because it's the browser of choice? if firefox was the browser of choice with the largest market share, wouldn't virus writers and security experts just be finding vulnerabilities in it?...or are mozilla/firefox/opera that much more secure...it's kinda like MAC users saying how the MAC is so secure because all of the viruses are windows viruses...well, that's because no one bothers to write a virus for MACs...
i think *Most* might be a huge exaggeration there...most users just by the box, and use the windows that comes preloaded with it...unless you're saying that most *nix users by a pre-loaded box, and then install their favorite distro...but if that's true, then that's a waste, you're better off just building your own...
How about: "Over 1 Billion Screwed?"...
Unfortunately, the 100,000,000th song sold was Hanson's "Mmm Bop", causing embarassment for everyone involved...
In all seriousness though, I really like ITunes...even though it costs $0.99 per song, I can put if up with it because i'm guaranteed a near album quality version of the song each time i download...there were always quality issues with Kazaa or Naptster or Lime Wire...plus, the transfer is much faster then those ever were...
I look at it this way...i can download 20 songs for $20, and burn my own CD...sure, now the CD costs me approximately what it would in the store, but it's garaunteed to have 20 songs on it that i like...
ah-ha...finally, a sane mind among the crowd here...you are exactly right...if i had mod points (and wasn't already posting in this thread), i'd give them to you!...
people like michael moore liek to have it both ways!...bush should've done more ealier to prevent it! bush shouldn't have gone into iraq...etc...make up your mind!
Yeah, I'd say that. Govenment is not to be trusted. That a well known and historically supported truth. Just because it's easier to hand your life over to the gov't and then forgo responsibility, doesn't mean it's the better thing to do.
First off, i don't have my head in the sand, and i don't implicitly trust the gov't...but still...i'm waiting to hear better ideas from the all these liberals who have been replying here...if we're not gonna help the gov't out with preventing terrorism, how are we gonna stop it?...you say it's just "easier to hand your life over to the gov't and forgo responsibility", well then, who should be responsible for protecting us??? the gov't has the army, the gov't has all of the military intelligence, it's *their* job...i just alwyas love the agrument that the gov't should stay out of our own business, yet do a better job protecting us...jeez...c'mon, who's head is in the sand now....
at all and had known connection to anyone who was posing a threat?
c'mon, who's being naive now...do you honestly believe that sadam didn't harbour terrorists, and atleast have some cursory connection to Bin-Laden...heck it's been documented that they were in communication together...
i don't think we're hung up on airplanes...it's just the most recent example of a high profile terrorist attack on our own soil...you're right though, the Next Major Terrorist Attack(TM) probably won't involve airplanes...it could invovle a subway car...or a bus...or a dirty bomb in the middle of the city...that's the point though, with that amount of uncertainty, why shouldn't we help to gov't out a little, and make their information gathering a little easier?
completely different situation...back then we were still fighting for all of our civil liberties and freedoms and rights, etc...now we have all of those...and if we have to give back just a little bit so that we can be safer?...almost 3,000 americans died on september 11th, and you're telling me that it's not worth giving the government a little more leeway if it could possibly help stop terrorists???
okay, so you're saying that things were different in ben's time...which means that things he said then, might not necessarily apply as well today...
oh please, i hate that liberal argument...we don't behave like the bullies of the world...but someone has to step in and regulate every now and then...the world wants it both ways...they criticize us for doing stuff like taking sadam hussein out of power...but then when someone gets out of control, who is the first country they turn to for help? that's right...
Reminds me of the episode of the simpsons where lisa buys al gore's book, and al gore is immediately alerted by the secret service or FBI or something...then he "celebrates"...good stuff...
Except that in Ben's time people weren't flying airplanes into skyscrapers...
I was under the impression that the traveling salesman problem had to do with finding the most efficient (i.e. shortest) route to traverse a *finite* amount of points...how is this the same?
that's exactly what i was thinking...don't let your anti-MS stance blind you to what they're doing...what if MS stumbles upon a cure for cancer...you just gonna ignore it, because MS discovered it???
actually, maybe 6-month development cycle was a bad way for the original piece to have put it...maybe it should've been a 6-month rollout scheudule...you're assuming that the different development cycles are series in nature, when in fact they can be partially parrallel...personally, where i work, our development cycles overlap...while version x.1 is in formal testing, version x.2 is already underway...whatever problems are fixed in x.1's formal testnig, are then merged into x.2...with parallel development cycles, you could have products (such as a camera) coming out every 6 months, even if they were taking longer then 6 months to develop...
yeah, dell does equal cheap...that's what they are!...cheap pcs for the home user...do you know what it says on the title bar when you bring up alienware's home page...it says Innovate High-Performance Custom PC's...when my mom (or the millions of other mom's) are looking for a PC to do their e-mail and shop on iQVC, they don't need the latest and greatest video card or flat panel monitor...they just want affordability...
...why was the Toyota Camry the best selling car practically every year in the 90's??? because it was reliable and affordable, just like Dell is...
Analyzing the 6-month life cycle from the different points of view...
Consumer - on one hand (as the second link points out), this is great for the consumer, because newer models causes the prices on the older models to drop, and then the consumer can possibly afford "more" camera then they otherwise could...of course, the flip side to this, is that you have to be satisfied with a camera that is "out of date"...
Retail Store - although I'm sure all major electronic stores like Best Buy, Circuit City, etc, have excellent supply chain management, I still gotta believe they get stuck holding the bag a little when new cameras are announced every six months, and suddenly all of the current cameras they had in stock suddenly become devalued...
Camera Company - obviously this is good for them...we've seen it time and time again, with cell phones being the most recent example...even though a consumer may be happy with their current product, they just have to have the most up-to-date, shiny, feature filled version of whatever it may be (cell phone, camera, pc, etc)...
The bottom line is, I still think it's good for the consumer...look what this same type of accelerated cycle has done for the home PC...parents everywhere can now buy much more PC then they could ever use, very cheaply...yoou just gotta be able to live with not having the best and fastest thing out there (ugh, this might be the wrong forum to propose that idea)...
it has nothing to do with the text books being free, but everything to do with the text books being open source, so that professors can change them dynamically like the parent (to my post) suggested...
obviously i meant "african-american" high school teacher...not "african"...
Another reason they changed books (or atleast versions) at the college i went to was the kill the used book market...it you have to have the latest/greatest version of a book, or a new book altogether, the independent used book store can't complete with the Barnes & Nobles owned University book store...