Hydrogen is no worse than gasoline - you have to store potential energy somehow, you know. Everyone thinks hydrogen is a lousy fuel because of the Hindenburg explosion. And hydrogen wasn't the only reason the Hindenburg exploded. It was designed poorly in such a way that it accumulated static charge, and they painted the surface with a chemical substance that is almost the same thing as thermite. See for yourself.
Hey, not flaming I'm being serious. Quickest way to destroy a new technology is to put the spotlight on it and say "it helps you get copies of copyrighted media". Which the summary says, thusly:
Usenet is the real treasure trove of multimedia content including vintage cartoons, westerns and popular television shows.
If it wasn't for public statements like these, BitTorrent wouldn't be in any trouble. Right? So let's keep quiet about our old beloved Usenet so the *AA doesn't bring the hammer down.
Well, if that's the case then this is probably ok. Unless it breaks some sort of DCMA provision or wiretap law to do its deed, of course.
BTW, since you have the EULA and I do not, could you post the part that covers this? I'd really like to see how they worded it to make this kind of thing ok. So I can keep an eye out for similar clauses in the future.
Well, I actually don't play the game so I haven't read the EULA. But I really have to wonder - does the EULA mention all the screwy stuff that this client checks? I'm guessing not since someone had to disassemble the sucker to find out what all this thing does.
Mind you, I'm not against it at face value. I just think that consumers should be able to make informed decisions. If the EULA says the client software will probe your IM and figure out your friend's email addresses and you install anyway, then no problem. But that's probably not the case here.
The software in question checks a lot of things, none of which are known to the user. From TFA:
I watched the warden sniff down the email addresses of people I was communicating with on MSN, the URL of several websites that I had open at the time, and the names of all my running programs, including those that were minimized or in the toolbar.
Now, if this thing told you up front that it was doing all of this, it would be simply an anti-cheating program. But it doesn't. It does all of this without notifying the user. Therefore, it is spying on you actions without your knowledge. Software + spying = spyware.
If he's going to be doing "reverse engineering", why on earth would he come to the place on planet Earth where he is most likely to wind up in jail for doing so?
Why not hook him up with a VPN and have him work out of his current home? You know, some place far far away where he can't wind up in jail for DCMA violations?
You don't need your physical body to be in the US to work for a US company, you know. Keep your body somewhere where it can't get thrown in jail.
Dmitry was the first person I thought of too - seriously Jon, stay out! I'm not kidding. You'll wind up in jail. Doesn't matter if what you did was legal in your own country or not. The Media Mafia does NOT care. They'll have you locked up. These guys own Senators and they make the rules.
No offer they've made could possibly be worth the risk. Don't do it.
Oh yeah, that would be my choice too. Eclipse is a wonderful extensible development environment. Or maybe even KDevelop. I'd imagine I could get that running under Cygwin.
Problem is these guys I work with are positively married to Visual Studio. If you put them in front of a different interface they'd hyperventilate. I asked for permission to simply experiment with other environments and was told no. Even after I explained how they could deploy to the target and what gdb/gdbserver could do for us (our current develop loop is smash in a bunch of printf functions, recompile, transfer to target, run, repeat). No dice. Doesn't interface to VS so it's no good.
I really don't understand this fascination with Visual Studio.
Amen, brother.
I have to use Visual Studio at work too. It's...not fun. And worse than that I'm using LynuxWorks LynxOS. Now I'm not flaming those guys - what they've done is awesome. They realized that a large percentage of developers think Visual Studio == programming and that's that. They found a market segment and made a product that makes people happy. So what did they do?
What they've done is to weld a set of GCC cross compiler tools into Visual Studio. No kidding.
People are that hooked on Visual Studio. They're willing to pay thousands of dollars just so they can press F7 to build rather than type "make". It's astonishing.
I'm definitely interested. My favorite magazine back when I was a kid was Omni. Loved the short story sci-fi they would always have there, and the creepy Giger artwork and all that. Totally bummed me out when they went all new-age.
I've been looking for a good magazine sci-fi fix ever since. This could be just what I've been looking for since I was a teenager, if they do it right.
What does this imply for cosmology and particle physics, both of which have been worrying about other aspects of dark matter?
I think it implies that we can stop chasing for something that probably doesn't exist, and get about the business of finding out what's really going on out there.
Maybe it's just me, but the first time I heard about dark matter and how it "must be out there" because it makes the calculations add up nicely...first thing I thought of was the ether. For a long time we needed an ether to explain radio waves, light propogation, etc. Turns out the truth of the matter is something totally other. And it's a far more facinating other, IMHO.
I'm guessing that hundreds of years from now, physics students will be reading about dark matter and chuckling. Same way we do today when we read about the luminiferous ether.
That's what the MTBF rating is all about. It's just that flash drives do it sooner. But we all know what to do about it, right? Have a tight schedule of backups. Take your pendrive home and back that sucker up. Every time.
...to pad their resume. Read the classifieds lately? There's a lotta.NET jobs out there. It's nice to learn.NET without having to boot "that other OS", y'know.
Hydrogen is no worse than gasoline - you have to store potential energy somehow, you know. Everyone thinks hydrogen is a lousy fuel because of the Hindenburg explosion. And hydrogen wasn't the only reason the Hindenburg exploded. It was designed poorly in such a way that it accumulated static charge, and they painted the surface with a chemical substance that is almost the same thing as thermite. See for yourself.
Hey, not flaming I'm being serious. Quickest way to destroy a new technology is to put the spotlight on it and say "it helps you get copies of copyrighted media". Which the summary says, thusly:
Usenet is the real treasure trove of multimedia content including vintage cartoons, westerns and popular television shows.
If it wasn't for public statements like these, BitTorrent wouldn't be in any trouble. Right? So let's keep quiet about our old beloved Usenet so the *AA doesn't bring the hammer down.
They're watching.
Cripes, Taco. I can understand wanting to tell the world about this, but did you have to put P2P and multimedia in the summary?
What were you thinking?
Well, if that's the case then this is probably ok. Unless it breaks some sort of DCMA provision or wiretap law to do its deed, of course.
BTW, since you have the EULA and I do not, could you post the part that covers this? I'd really like to see how they worded it to make this kind of thing ok. So I can keep an eye out for similar clauses in the future.
Well, I actually don't play the game so I haven't read the EULA. But I really have to wonder - does the EULA mention all the screwy stuff that this client checks? I'm guessing not since someone had to disassemble the sucker to find out what all this thing does.
Mind you, I'm not against it at face value. I just think that consumers should be able to make informed decisions. If the EULA says the client software will probe your IM and figure out your friend's email addresses and you install anyway, then no problem. But that's probably not the case here.
The software in question checks a lot of things, none of which are known to the user. From TFA:
I watched the warden sniff down the email addresses of people I was communicating with on MSN, the URL of several websites that I had open at the time, and the names of all my running programs, including those that were minimized or in the toolbar.
Now, if this thing told you up front that it was doing all of this, it would be simply an anti-cheating program. But it doesn't. It does all of this without notifying the user. Therefore, it is spying on you actions without your knowledge. Software + spying = spyware.
Any decent SCSI-2 compliant judge corpse should spin at least 15K.
You know, when you're new to it all and shy about asking and you kind of hedge your bets.
"Ha ha ha. No, I'm just kidding."
"...unless you think it's a good idea, that is."
Obviously, you don't have a Pentium 4.
I agree completely. This is absolutely *awesome*.
VMware, you guys rock. Very very generous and much appreciated.
Is a 40GB usb2 drive. I own one and haven't had a use for it in a long while.
Until now.
If they wanted to have their boxes 0wned, they don't have to hold a conference and invite a bunch of hackers over. I know a better way.
Just plug the suckers straight into the net. And wait about three minutes. Done deal.
If he's going to be doing "reverse engineering", why on earth would he come to the place on planet Earth where he is most likely to wind up in jail for doing so?
Why not hook him up with a VPN and have him work out of his current home? You know, some place far far away where he can't wind up in jail for DCMA violations?
You don't need your physical body to be in the US to work for a US company, you know. Keep your body somewhere where it can't get thrown in jail.
Dmitry was the first person I thought of too - seriously Jon, stay out! I'm not kidding. You'll wind up in jail. Doesn't matter if what you did was legal in your own country or not. The Media Mafia does NOT care. They'll have you locked up. These guys own Senators and they make the rules.
No offer they've made could possibly be worth the risk. Don't do it.
Oh yeah, that would be my choice too. Eclipse is a wonderful extensible development environment. Or maybe even KDevelop. I'd imagine I could get that running under Cygwin.
Problem is these guys I work with are positively married to Visual Studio. If you put them in front of a different interface they'd hyperventilate. I asked for permission to simply experiment with other environments and was told no. Even after I explained how they could deploy to the target and what gdb/gdbserver could do for us (our current develop loop is smash in a bunch of printf functions, recompile, transfer to target, run, repeat). No dice. Doesn't interface to VS so it's no good.
I really don't understand this fascination with Visual Studio.
Amen, brother.
I have to use Visual Studio at work too. It's...not fun. And worse than that I'm using LynuxWorks LynxOS. Now I'm not flaming those guys - what they've done is awesome. They realized that a large percentage of developers think Visual Studio == programming and that's that. They found a market segment and made a product that makes people happy. So what did they do?
What they've done is to weld a set of GCC cross compiler tools into Visual Studio. No kidding.
People are that hooked on Visual Studio. They're willing to pay thousands of dollars just so they can press F7 to build rather than type "make". It's astonishing.
I'm definitely interested. My favorite magazine back when I was a kid was Omni. Loved the short story sci-fi they would always have there, and the creepy Giger artwork and all that. Totally bummed me out when they went all new-age.
I've been looking for a good magazine sci-fi fix ever since. This could be just what I've been looking for since I was a teenager, if they do it right.
I opened my old Amiga 500, and for some reason Rock Lobster was on my motherboard!
and asked them to perform basic tasks using the Linux desktop
I consider running Ad-Aware a basic task for my Windows machines. Remember that a basic task can be different depending on the OS you're using.
What does this imply for cosmology and particle physics, both of which have been worrying about other aspects of dark matter?
I think it implies that we can stop chasing for something that probably doesn't exist, and get about the business of finding out what's really going on out there.
Maybe it's just me, but the first time I heard about dark matter and how it "must be out there" because it makes the calculations add up nicely...first thing I thought of was the ether. For a long time we needed an ether to explain radio waves, light propogation, etc. Turns out the truth of the matter is something totally other. And it's a far more facinating other, IMHO.
I'm guessing that hundreds of years from now, physics students will be reading about dark matter and chuckling. Same way we do today when we read about the luminiferous ether.
That's what the MTBF rating is all about. It's just that flash drives do it sooner. But we all know what to do about it, right? Have a tight schedule of backups. Take your pendrive home and back that sucker up. Every time.
When he leaves that $100k/year job, have his former employer give me a call, k?
Sure they'll do it.
...to pad their resume. Read the classifieds lately? There's a lotta .NET jobs out there. It's nice to learn .NET without having to boot "that other OS", y'know.
Your answer is contained in your question. Emphasis mine.
If SCO _still_ does not have the evidence they need how could any sane judge let the discovery period continue for this long?
They really are trying to search everything, aren't they?