You're right. This is trash. It's a shame that DJing has become cheapened by flood of consumer "DJ toys". This is as bad as the DM2 mixer...
I'll stick with my Technics...
Exactly. I'd like to know the advantages that the RHEL kernel provides over the vanilla kernel.org kernels.....
Currently, I have about 20 Redhat 7.2, 7.3 and 8.0 systems (2 and 4-way HP Proliants) running my custom 2.4.21 kernels with XFS. I fear that I won't be able to have that control if I start installing RHEL on new servers, so it would be nice to know the differences.
My solution is to use the Paypal debit card. It's linked to my Paypal account and acts as a Mastercard. I use it for all of my Apple iTunes store purchases. It works quite well....
UIUC, eh? I'm having the same problem at the corporate level. See my post here.
I'm lucky because I don't have to worry about the desktop user, but having 70+ servers around the country with RH7.0->8.0 is going to be a pain when the security updates and bug fixes for RH7.3 and RH8.0 end. These systems are stable otherwise, so I may look at hand-rolling security updates. Sigh, what a mess.
My issue with the Redhat kernels was patching for XFS. I prefer XFS as a filesystem on our software application's data directories, and I couldn't cleanly patch the Redhat errata sources to meet my needs. (very messy)
Exactly. That's the problem. Redhat versions with a large install base (like 7.3 or 8.0) are losing patch and security support soon. I can't believe that Redhat would force this on its users.... So with new servers, I feel awful installing RH8.0 because I know it's going to be EOL'ed soon. But I can't justify the cost increase ($150 to $1500) to my customers....
.... and support the free OS's with a large installation base for a bit longer. Redhat 7.3 and 8.0 have a large install base. It seems ridiculous that they would drop patch support for these versions so soon. We'll see what happens, though.
I work for a software company whose product is bundled with Redhat Linux and HP Proliant servers. The recent Redhat changes are bad news for our product. For the past few years, we've sold the HP/Compaq servers with appropriate versions of Redhat (7.x, 8) and our proprietary software on top. Redhat 7.3 and 8.0 have proven to be the best match for our software/hardware solution. The hardcore Compaq/HP server hardware support (for ML370's and ML570's) is there. The OS is stable. We use up2date to keep on top of security patches (openssh, etc.). It was nice because we could give the customer a real Redhat box with media and manuals (not that they used it... but it's nice to have the packaging).
Now, I have 70 Linux servers around the country, and a steady stream of new customers. I've been installing Redhat 8.0 on new deployments because 9.0 doesn't work well with our application. So, we've everything from 7.0 through 8.0 in the field. Over the past few months, Redhat dropped up2date support and patches for Redhat 7 and 7.1. I feel guilty installing 8.0 on new boxes because I know support for it will be dropped at the end of the year.
I don't wish to buy into Redhat AS or ES because I don't understand what I'm paying for. *I'm* the Redhat support. I just need something that will receive patches and support for more than one year. The 5 year lifespan of the ES versions is nice, but I've NEVER called Redhat for support. I don't plan to.
I build the kernels for each of the servers. I use vanilla kernel.org source with XFS. We sell 2, 4 and 8-way servers. Am I missing out on anything from the "optimized" Redhat Advanced Server kernels? What are other people in this situation doing?
I think it's confusing because we initially chose Redhat for the accountability aspect of having a corporation behind the distro. Now, I'm not sure who they're targeting. I would imagine that most firms that select Redhat Advanced server and are willing to pay the price (>$1000/license) would have a staff talented enough to support it. So why the mandatory support costs from Redhat?
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I run Fink and XDarwin on my Powerbook. My company produces a terminal/character-based ERP application for the produce industry. It runs on hardware terminals and also has a home-brewed PC client (with a Linux backend). We use a SCO-ANSI emulation with a few custom termdefs.
There are very few clients (puTTY and Powerterm) on the PC that can handle our product. The Mac situation is much worse. It took me a few months to find an appropriate solution for working with our clients from my Mac. The winners are:
DataComet -not free- but worth it. This program is similar to Powerterm on the PC side. It can handle just about any emulation you throw at it. Powerterm and DataComet both include their own font suites which allow for full PC-ANSI emulation, for example. Very comprehensive package. It integrates with the built-in shell and even handles my company's software. Here's a screenshot of DataComet on my system
They are Oxford911, but the bus-powered bridge is proprietary. Still uses an Oxford 911 chip. But yeah, I was looking at from a Mac point of view. We all have 6-pin firewire;)
....and ATA-6. It's surprsing that their products go unnoticed, but the lineup of firewire products from Wiebetech solutions includes several products that will support large drives. Some even will support the large drives under bus-power.
I use a Wiebetech firewire super drive dock connected to an 80gig Seagate desktop drive with my Powerbook G4. The Super Drive Dock is simply an anodized aluminum enclosure containing a firewire bridge that attaches to a bare drive. It supplies power to the disk via firewire bus power. Very tight design.
After 8 months of complaining, Apple *did* replace my defective unit, but I fear that this new machine will delevop the same problem. Functionally, these are wonderful machines.... especially for the tech-savvy crowd.
How will this affect those of us with existing XFree86 and Fink applications? I currently use Gnome and Gtk for my X applications... is this an entirely-standalone product, or could it possibly integrate well with an existing Gtk install?
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You've got a point :)
Thanks much. I'm also downloading the RHEL 3.0 2.4.21 kernel source to check out the packages.
Currently, I have about 20 Redhat 7.2, 7.3 and 8.0 systems (2 and 4-way HP Proliants) running my custom 2.4.21 kernels with XFS. I fear that I won't be able to have that control if I start installing RHEL on new servers, so it would be nice to know the differences.
My solution is to use the Paypal debit card. It's linked to my Paypal account and acts as a Mastercard. I use it for all of my Apple iTunes store purchases. It works quite well....
NO! You're off-topic.
I'm lucky because I don't have to worry about the desktop user, but having 70+ servers around the country with RH7.0->8.0 is going to be a pain when the security updates and bug fixes for RH7.3 and RH8.0 end. These systems are stable otherwise, so I may look at hand-rolling security updates. Sigh, what a mess.
What did you find?
My issue with the Redhat kernels was patching for XFS. I prefer XFS as a filesystem on our software application's data directories, and I couldn't cleanly patch the Redhat errata sources to meet my needs. (very messy)
Exactly. That's the problem. Redhat versions with a large install base (like 7.3 or 8.0) are losing patch and security support soon. I can't believe that Redhat would force this on its users.... So with new servers, I feel awful installing RH8.0 because I know it's going to be EOL'ed soon. But I can't justify the cost increase ($150 to $1500) to my customers....
.... and support the free OS's with a large installation base for a bit longer. Redhat 7.3 and 8.0 have a large install base. It seems ridiculous that they would drop patch support for these versions so soon. We'll see what happens, though.
That's pretty scary.... Is this in anticipation of more incoming support requests generated by the new licensing scheme? Hmmm...
Now, I have 70 Linux servers around the country, and a steady stream of new customers. I've been installing Redhat 8.0 on new deployments because 9.0 doesn't work well with our application. So, we've everything from 7.0 through 8.0 in the field. Over the past few months, Redhat dropped up2date support and patches for Redhat 7 and 7.1. I feel guilty installing 8.0 on new boxes because I know support for it will be dropped at the end of the year.
I don't wish to buy into Redhat AS or ES because I don't understand what I'm paying for. *I'm* the Redhat support. I just need something that will receive patches and support for more than one year. The 5 year lifespan of the ES versions is nice, but I've NEVER called Redhat for support. I don't plan to.
I build the kernels for each of the servers. I use vanilla kernel.org source with XFS. We sell 2, 4 and 8-way servers. Am I missing out on anything from the "optimized" Redhat Advanced Server kernels? What are other people in this situation doing?
I think it's confusing because we initially chose Redhat for the accountability aspect of having a corporation behind the distro. Now, I'm not sure who they're targeting. I would imagine that most firms that select Redhat Advanced server and are willing to pay the price (>$1000/license) would have a staff talented enough to support it. So why the mandatory support costs from Redhat?
Hit up google and check online samples.
There are very few clients (puTTY and Powerterm) on the PC that can handle our product. The Mac situation is much worse. It took me a few months to find an appropriate solution for working with our clients from my Mac. The winners are:
Eterm -free- Get version 0.9 through Fink. It's much faster than Apple's terminal application and is much more configurable.
Here's a shot of a typical Eterm on my machine
DataComet -not free- but worth it. This program is similar to Powerterm on the PC side. It can handle just about any emulation you throw at it. Powerterm and DataComet both include their own font suites which allow for full PC-ANSI emulation, for example. Very comprehensive package. It integrates with the built-in shell and even handles my company's software.
Here's a screenshot of DataComet on my system
Here's a random screenshot.
Note: There is a Powerterm for Mac OSX, but it's fairly expensive, and DataComet performs as well. Hit me up if you have any questions....
You're a sicko...
And we scratch on nifty Technics turntables like these.
...are y'all happy with the Sharp Zaurus 5500?
http://djedwhite.com/photo
Pair-programming really works!
They are Oxford911, but the bus-powered bridge is proprietary. Still uses an Oxford 911 chip. But yeah, I was looking at from a Mac point of view. We all have 6-pin firewire ;)
I use a Wiebetech firewire super drive dock connected to an 80gig Seagate desktop drive with my Powerbook G4. The Super Drive Dock is simply an anodized aluminum enclosure containing a firewire bridge that attaches to a bare drive. It supplies power to the disk via firewire bus power. Very tight design.
In addition, Wiebetech's bridge is home-grown and a bit faster than most on the market.
Check it out.
True... I had the same led issues
I don't wear a watch. Did those photos look like a watch-related issue? It's not "just paint." It's a process/manufacturing defect.
After 8 months of complaining, Apple *did* replace my defective unit, but I fear that this new machine will delevop the same problem. Functionally, these are wonderful machines.... especially for the tech-savvy crowd.
My obligatory screenshot link.
How will this affect those of us with existing XFree86 and Fink applications? I currently use Gnome and Gtk for my X applications... is this an entirely-standalone product, or could it possibly integrate well with an existing Gtk install?