Q: My Norte LapPad is slightly thicker at the edges - what is this for?
A: The Norte LapPad has extra insulation where your laptop computer comes in contact with your body. By positioning these
thicker areas between your legs and your laptop, you will notice a significant comfort improvement. You will probably notice
a slight 'gap' between your legs, where the excess LapPad material sags. This is normal, and the Traveler LapPads were designed
this way on purpose to provide an air-gap to promote natural cooling through air circulation (convection cooling).
Ummmmm... well, I guess they did build a neat breadboard for the power here.
I actually found that to be the single most technical thing in here. The importance or uniqueness here is lost on me, too, I must admit.:-|
I get the impression, too, that by the time all is said and done, they may well have actually saved some money in going with a BTO or COTS system instead of rolling their own. I know, that'd have not been nerdish enough for us, but still - to spend good money and come out with something that is not terribly different than something that is available out there for less must be: (1) embarassing. (2) financially painful.
I'm not certain just how useful this is, but it's all that I saw, as the Wayback Machine didn't have an archive.
I'm not karma whoreing, just trying to see the site (I've been thinking about an EOS digital rebal for fish pics - I need INSANELY FAST shutter speeds, with the option for getting far enough optical zoom on the subject that I can see individual scales and detail on a 0.25" fry).
Hope this helps out a small bit. Why, perchance, is slashdot providing "raw" and direct links to back-end sites, anyway? Sorry if this has been answered, but I'm being serious. Caches exist. They're free. They have massive horsepower and bandwidth.
My first time taking it I wrote a rather good peice of work if I do say so myself. Problem was, it didn't ahhere to their simply 5 paragraph, introduction, 3 body, and conclusion. I did horrible. My second time, I wrote something that I barely called English but followed what they wanted perfectly and got top marks.
Christ, are they teaching the 5-paragraph essay? Ugh. That's pretty sad in itself.:( HUMAN instructors should not be pulling out that old trashpile, much less requiring that for a schema/template/rubric from which the program grades.
If grading is intended as a motivator to encourage each student to perform his/her best, then more effort should yield a higher grade. Likewise, if grading is intended to reflect the student's ability to perform in a real-world situation, effort should probably yield a higher grade: folks who work hard tend to do better than folks who are marginally smarter but don't work hard, in real-life situations. But if grading is intended to reflect only the quality of the work that was submitted, then sure -- effort shouldn't count at all.
We're in the West here. Process Philosophy is out; outcomes are what matters. You have someone who is brilliant, and someone who just doesn't get it. Now, while the dull person who works their butt off certainly gains the benefit of the doubt (e.g. if they're borderline, but I can tell they've put in quite an effort, then I'll give them the higher of the 2 grades) and also receives my appreciation of working and trying to better themself, it is not the job of educators to turn out individuals who "work hard". Rather, it is the job of (certainly primary school and undergrad) educators to turn out a product that is able to achieve, and able to perform. Now, while it doesn't matter in the case of an infinite amount of time being allotted just how two reports get finished, the real world does not work in this way. In short, the A students typically are that way because they either are time-management wizards (God bless 'em), or exceedingly bright. All else being equal, the bright person working in-domain can pull off a more robust and cogent report, exam, what-have-you than a dull person given the same time table.
You know, I started out disagreeing with you, but now understand where you're coming from. It depends upon the context of the situation. However, I will certainly stand behind my earlier assertion that effort, while noble and honorable, will only take you so far - in postgraduate work, raw intelligence and/or inquisitiveness certainly has a place. Look at folks being groomed for future faculty positions at Research I institutions - effort and hard work are wonderful, but in the absence of the more cerebral nature of their work (knowledge generation - "publishing", in other words), then they're pretty much useless to the serious Research I institution.
With all this being said, though, I'll also tack on that Academics is a weird arena in which to work. I was flatly told that, "your job is not to teach students. If you can do this, that's a nice bonus, but your job is to produce (publish)" - they're right, of course, but it is a bit odd to have this so bluntly stated.
Anyway... the point of the reply is this: I think the focus shifts from hard work in primary and undergraduate education to that of raw talent (coupled, hopefully, with hard work!) in graduate programs. I say this with a good deal of confidence in reviewing just the nature of course "structure" and "deadlines". At the graduate level, these are flexible if you produce a product that is worth the wait.
PS: Anyone else think the No Child Left Behind mandate will end up killing us all?
A few years ago, I was trying to get a part so that I could connect to a router.
The part I was looking for was an RJ45DB9 connector. I had one on me (my personal one), but needed to buy another one (for the business).
The fun started when I went into the store:
Me: Yeah, I'm looking for a DB9-to-RJ45 connector. I don't see them on your shelf, maybe--
SalesTroll: Sir, there's no such thing as that part.
Me: Uh... no, I need to connect a rollover cable to it. There is such a part. I didn't see it here, but was wonderi--
SalesTroll:That does not exist! I don't know where you got the idea--
Me: *pulls out my hardware - lo and behold, the hardware that "doesn't exist"!
SalesTroll: *confused and shocked expression*
Me: Please grab a manager for me and ask; you may well have one in the back, as you do some networking here.
SalesTroll: *Goes to a manager and mutters something... manager looks at me and loudly says, that doesn't exist. SalesTroll then pulls out my hardware. Manager looks confused, comes over.*
Manager: Wow, that's weird... I've never seen anything like this. They must be really rare.
Me: Uh, no, they're used for Cisco devices all the time--
Manager: Oh, those're like Macs, right?
Me: *holding back laughter and murderous thoughts* Uh, no. *I take my hardware back* I'll order online, thanks.
Aside from surveys given to captive audiences (e.g., student surveys or evaluations of faculty done in classrooms), surveys are generally voluntary.
Well, if the surveys (research surveys especially) are being done at the University level, it is done with the express and explicit understanding that one of the participants' rights is to voluntarily withdraw from the study at any time, no questions asked.
Now, if there are folks not doing this, then it raises some really harsh questions there.
Primary and High (US) schools, though, are largely on their own. I was taking an AP course in Physics when in high school, and they foisted a survey upon us. I wanted nothing to do with it. Funny story, but the end result was that I was informed that I had no Participant Rights.
Actually, the clitoris corresponds to the embryonic tissue that becomes the head of the penis on a man. The tissue destined to make up the labia minor, labia major, and vaginal canal on a woman becomes, on a man, the shaft of the penis.
Heh. Whatever you do, do not reveal this "revelation" to a class full of undergraduates enrolled in a psychology of gender class... Not only will they not know what to do with it, but they will also accuse you of "demoting" women to be just like men.
Wait a minute. We have disposable passwords. Have we forgotten about S/Key and OPIE, or am I missing something here? I've not touched it in years, so I'm not quite certain if this has fallen by the wayside. I typically use a virtual 2-phase authentication process through use of an identity file and a tunnel. Not too bad, I think.
DaVinci was a genius, yes. However, I am no longer so inclined to say that he was ahead of his time. Quite a bit of our current view of the "backward-thinking" dark/middle ages comes about from (can't remember his name now - he wrote "Sleepy Hollow"). Also, they apparently KNEW the world was round - Columbus did NOT make that discovery, and it was NOT against Church doctrine. I caught a program by Terry Jones (of Monty Python fame) [I believe] and he was going through and outlining this. It was really an amazing insight into the time. So... they were actually NOT the "backward savages" that we're inclined to believe, nor was the Church such a crushingly obtuse entity with respect to science - seems it was in its best interest to encourage people to check out and unravel God's workings - to get to better know the mind of God. Sooooo... it was a great program, anyway.
...merges small dots of color into a larger whole that it would prefer to see.
So we're pulling a signal out of noise, then - and doing so by essentially scoring a false positive. Think of it as an analogue (pun not intended) to steg/watermarking. So, then you go on to say
I know of no such technique for fooling the human ear.
2 examples: Check out the McGurk Effect, as well as... well, I cannot remember the actual name of it now (argh), but it involves us constructing a false hit on a partial audio signal - and we SWEAR that the signal was delivered intact.
For instance: a cough might occlude the true signal, in which a "gap" as been left.
I'll have to come back to this at another time; it's interesting, I just cannot remember the name of it right now.
Like this comment.;) I really think this whole idea has merit. I know that when MY computer is just sitting around, I'd rather put the CPU to work for someone. And, likewise, when I need CPU time, I'd like to be able to reach back into the community and at least get out what I put in. More if folks feel up to it; break-even, if they don't.
Awesome, I'm glad to hear that it's actually out there. I see it's in Java; I find Java has the advantage over C with UNIX libs by providing a far easier interface with/to socket ops.
Sorry, I *do* have both of Stevens' books, but it's a lot easier to make calls as opposed to re-inventing the wheel (again, via raw calls in C - I know it may well be apples and oranges here). I won't argue that it's better, mind you, but also I'm not about to say that I can do a better job at rolling my own than professional computer scientists - I can't.
This brings up a very interesting point: is there, or should there be, a tie-in with social networking or another such electronic meeting media, a "spare CPU cycle" trading board, such that if I wanted to use X cycles from a machine, if/when they wrote some code, then they would get X cycles "credit" on my machine, with the option for me to allow more as I desire?
If not, I am proposing this methodology here right now (*cough prior art cough* - see, academia has ruined me forever now!). The crux of the matter, then, seems to be this: if there is not such a system, would you guys use/desire one? I know that I would, especially as I'm looking at doing some distributed programming myself here in the vaguely-distant future (read: when I get around to it *wink*).
I've got an HP with a blue power button. I put tape over it. How hard is that? Lazy bastard can't self-modify his self-purchases?
Nah, like you said, he's too lazy. And HERE is where slashdot comes in, with my cottage-industry observation above - let's get someone to offer to "mod" his stuff for him!:)
Shuji Nakamura is not to blame here any less than Henry Ford is to blame for cars clogging up the roads now.
In any event, isn't unification what we're looking for now in computing? Isn't it a nice thing (that has spun an entire cottage-industry of mods and such) that we can get our computer "look and feel" to match our decor? To match itself, for that matter? Looking around my desk, I see some green, red, yellow, and orange LEDs. I would be tickled if they could all be more unified. With, of course, the exception of my HDD LEDs, which I like to be able to notice out of the corner of my eye.
Sounds to me like someone's got a case of the (pre-)Mondays.;)
So UofA got a publication hit and a corresponding fat grant (likely) this time.
Wonderful.
I've stopped really caring to hear, every 1.5-2 years, about the shocking and revolutionary study that -gasp!- places that get daily use sans daily cleaning are actually dirtier than places that are - given their function - cleaned nightly.
However, there is a quote and its bretheren that never cease to amaze me:
The study found that where office workers who were told to clean their desks with disinfecting wipes, bacterial levels were reduced by 99%.
Hmm... let's take a look at this...
1. Disinfecting wipes can take out bacteria. Woohoo. We know this.
2. People are being encouraged to live in a germ-free world - and we'll suffer because of it.
I believe we're headed straight for another Black Plague, given our disposition towards feeling the need to scrub and kill every last germ off our surfaces. This is silly, and is in fact making us weaker as a whole, as we now have zero exposure to elements that, 50 years ago, we came into daily or near-daily contact with.
A few-point plan to save us from ourselves:
a. If you go to the bathroom, wash your damn hands after you're finished. And this does not just mean rinsing them under cool water - this means the full soap and warm-hot water treatement.
b. We're not Howard Hughes. Let a few germs go; they'll likely do us all a lot more good than bad. Yeah, they're all over your skin, clothes, and so on... but to want to rid yourself of 'em is tantamount to saying that we ought to rip out our eyelashes - because there're symbiotic crawlies living in there, and that gives me the willies.
c. The only people that antibacterial soap ought to be dispensed to are nurses and the like. Antibacterial products are the result of an over-indulgent Western imagination rising up with our xenophobia with a desire to remain King or Queen of our Domain.
Anyway... that's what I think.;) Please wash your hands after going to the bathroom... other people have to touch that door too, you know!
As you all know there are millions of recipes out there, but try finding one single recipe for a decent curry, the kind you can get at your favorite indian restaurant, and I bet you can't.
As a sort of aside, you know what's REALLY messed up? From what I understand, the face of India is changing... eating out is now the de facto method of getting food.
The point?
Wait for it.....
These days, lots of Indians don't have any good curry recipies! To say nothing of Tandori and Chutney and so on...
I hope that I've been mis-informed, but if not, then this is a really bad sign of the times.:(
we've decided that this was not the appropriate time to launch a graphic adventure on the PC
Translation: since it's not an FPS, kiddies won't buy it. It's witty, wry, and downright FUNNY.
Quick! Yank it!
A sad, sad, sign of the times. I played with GLEE the original Sam&Max game... I guess we've come too far to go back to games being intellectually immersive (RAMA, S&M, etc).:(
Slashdot Mirror
Ummmmm ... well, I guess they did build a neat breadboard for the power here.
I actually found that to be the single most technical thing in here. The importance or uniqueness here is lost on me, too, I must admit. :-|
I get the impression, too, that by the time all is said and done, they may well have actually saved some money in going with a BTO or COTS system instead of rolling their own. I know, that'd have not been nerdish enough for us, but still - to spend good money and come out with something that is not terribly different than something that is available out there for less must be: (1) embarassing. (2) financially painful.
Here is one google cache of the page.
I'm not certain just how useful this is, but it's all that I saw, as the Wayback Machine didn't have an archive.
I'm not karma whoreing, just trying to see the site (I've been thinking about an EOS digital rebal for fish pics - I need INSANELY FAST shutter speeds, with the option for getting far enough optical zoom on the subject that I can see individual scales and detail on a 0.25" fry).
Hope this helps out a small bit. Why, perchance, is slashdot providing "raw" and direct links to back-end sites, anyway? Sorry if this has been answered, but I'm being serious. Caches exist. They're free. They have massive horsepower and bandwidth.
My first time taking it I wrote a rather good peice of work if I do say so myself. Problem was, it didn't ahhere to their simply 5 paragraph, introduction, 3 body, and conclusion. I did horrible. My second time, I wrote something that I barely called English but followed what they wanted perfectly and got top marks.
Christ, are they teaching the 5-paragraph essay? Ugh. That's pretty sad in itself. :( HUMAN instructors should not be pulling out that old trashpile, much less requiring that for a schema/template/rubric from which the program grades.
If grading is intended as a motivator to encourage each student to perform his/her best, then more effort should yield a higher grade. Likewise, if grading is intended to reflect the student's ability to perform in a real-world situation, effort should probably yield a higher grade: folks who work hard tend to do better than folks who are marginally smarter but don't work hard, in real-life situations. But if grading is intended to reflect only the quality of the work that was submitted, then sure -- effort shouldn't count at all.
We're in the West here. Process Philosophy is out; outcomes are what matters. You have someone who is brilliant, and someone who just doesn't get it. Now, while the dull person who works their butt off certainly gains the benefit of the doubt (e.g. if they're borderline, but I can tell they've put in quite an effort, then I'll give them the higher of the 2 grades) and also receives my appreciation of working and trying to better themself, it is not the job of educators to turn out individuals who "work hard". Rather, it is the job of (certainly primary school and undergrad) educators to turn out a product that is able to achieve, and able to perform. Now, while it doesn't matter in the case of an infinite amount of time being allotted just how two reports get finished, the real world does not work in this way. In short, the A students typically are that way because they either are time-management wizards (God bless 'em), or exceedingly bright. All else being equal, the bright person working in-domain can pull off a more robust and cogent report, exam, what-have-you than a dull person given the same time table.
You know, I started out disagreeing with you, but now understand where you're coming from. It depends upon the context of the situation. However, I will certainly stand behind my earlier assertion that effort, while noble and honorable, will only take you so far - in postgraduate work, raw intelligence and/or inquisitiveness certainly has a place. Look at folks being groomed for future faculty positions at Research I institutions - effort and hard work are wonderful, but in the absence of the more cerebral nature of their work (knowledge generation - "publishing", in other words), then they're pretty much useless to the serious Research I institution.
With all this being said, though, I'll also tack on that Academics is a weird arena in which to work. I was flatly told that, "your job is not to teach students. If you can do this, that's a nice bonus, but your job is to produce (publish)" - they're right, of course, but it is a bit odd to have this so bluntly stated.
Anyway ... the point of the reply is this: I think the focus shifts from hard work in primary and undergraduate education to that of raw talent (coupled, hopefully, with hard work!) in graduate programs. I say this with a good deal of confidence in reviewing just the nature of course "structure" and "deadlines". At the graduate level, these are flexible if you produce a product that is worth the wait.
PS: Anyone else think the No Child Left Behind mandate will end up killing us all?
I was there when it was MegaBit / UsWorst, and indeed - the Tier I and II folks were idiots, and the Tier III guys were hit-and-miss.
The part I was looking for was an RJ45DB9 connector. I had one on me (my personal one), but needed to buy another one (for the business).
The fun started when I went into the store:
Me: Yeah, I'm looking for a DB9-to-RJ45 connector. I don't see them on your shelf, maybe--
SalesTroll: Sir, there's no such thing as that part.
Me: Uh ... no, I need to connect a rollover cable to it. There is such a part. I didn't see it here, but was wonderi--
SalesTroll: That does not exist! I don't know where you got the idea--
Me: *pulls out my hardware - lo and behold, the hardware that "doesn't exist"!
SalesTroll: *confused and shocked expression*
Me: Please grab a manager for me and ask; you may well have one in the back, as you do some networking here.
SalesTroll: *Goes to a manager and mutters something ... manager looks at me and loudly says, that doesn't exist. SalesTroll then pulls out my hardware. Manager looks confused, comes over.*
Manager: Wow, that's weird ... I've never seen anything like this. They must be really rare.
Me: Uh, no, they're used for Cisco devices all the time--
Manager: Oh, those're like Macs, right?
Me: *holding back laughter and murderous thoughts* Uh, no. *I take my hardware back* I'll order online, thanks.
Ah, such fun.
Well, if the surveys (research surveys especially) are being done at the University level, it is done with the express and explicit understanding that one of the participants' rights is to voluntarily withdraw from the study at any time, no questions asked.
Now, if there are folks not doing this, then it raises some really harsh questions there.
Primary and High (US) schools, though, are largely on their own. I was taking an AP course in Physics when in high school, and they foisted a survey upon us. I wanted nothing to do with it. Funny story, but the end result was that I was informed that I had no Participant Rights.
Heh. Whatever you do, do not reveal this "revelation" to a class full of undergraduates enrolled in a psychology of gender class... Not only will they not know what to do with it, but they will also accuse you of "demoting" women to be just like men.
*sigh* Oh, the memories.
Wait a minute. We have disposable passwords. Have we forgotten about S/Key and OPIE, or am I missing something here? I've not touched it in years, so I'm not quite certain if this has fallen by the wayside. I typically use a virtual 2-phase authentication process through use of an identity file and a tunnel. Not too bad, I think.
1] PuTTY
2] WinSCP
3] McAffee VirusScan Enterprise
4] Moz Firefox
5] WinAMP
6] WinZIP
7] SciTE
8] MS Office
(I'm familiar with OO.o and StarOffice, but from what I've seen, MSOffice is the hands-down winner for me and is primarily what keeps me on Windows).
9] Adobe Acrobat 6.0 PRO
10] DBDesigner 4
And that about rounds out the list. After that, I reboot and hot-patch the box with locally stored patches, reboot, THEN connect for new patches.
This is the program I was thinking of - "Medieval Lives"
It's actually a brilliantly watchable series. ;)
DaVinci was a genius, yes. However, I am no longer so inclined to say that he was ahead of his time. Quite a bit of our current view of the "backward-thinking" dark/middle ages comes about from (can't remember his name now - he wrote "Sleepy Hollow"). Also, they apparently KNEW the world was round - Columbus did NOT make that discovery, and it was NOT against Church doctrine. I caught a program by Terry Jones (of Monty Python fame) [I believe] and he was going through and outlining this. It was really an amazing insight into the time. So ... they were actually NOT the "backward savages" that we're inclined to believe, nor was the Church such a crushingly obtuse entity with respect to science - seems it was in its best interest to encourage people to check out and unravel God's workings - to get to better know the mind of God. Sooooo ... it was a great program, anyway.
PS: In all the Human Factors readings I've ever seen, the eye does have a vastly higher granularity for signal / signal discrimination than the ear.
So we're pulling a signal out of noise, then - and doing so by essentially scoring a false positive. Think of it as an analogue (pun not intended) to steg/watermarking. So, then you go on to say
I know of no such technique for fooling the human ear.
2 examples: Check out the McGurk Effect, as well as ... well, I cannot remember the actual name of it now (argh), but it involves us constructing a false hit on a partial audio signal - and we SWEAR that the signal was delivered intact.
For instance: a cough might occlude the true signal, in which a "gap" as been left.
I'll have to come back to this at another time; it's interesting, I just cannot remember the name of it right now.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Like this comment. ;) I really think this whole idea has merit. I know that when MY computer is just sitting around, I'd rather put the CPU to work for someone. And, likewise, when I need CPU time, I'd like to be able to reach back into the community and at least get out what I put in. More if folks feel up to it; break-even, if they don't.
Awesome, I'm glad to hear that it's actually out there. I see it's in Java; I find Java has the advantage over C with UNIX libs by providing a far easier interface with/to socket ops.
Sorry, I *do* have both of Stevens' books, but it's a lot easier to make calls as opposed to re-inventing the wheel (again, via raw calls in C - I know it may well be apples and oranges here). I won't argue that it's better, mind you, but also I'm not about to say that I can do a better job at rolling my own than professional computer scientists - I can't.
Into the bookmarks it goes - thanks again! :)
If not, I am proposing this methodology here right now (*cough prior art cough* - see, academia has ruined me forever now!). The crux of the matter, then, seems to be this: if there is not such a system, would you guys use/desire one? I know that I would, especially as I'm looking at doing some distributed programming myself here in the vaguely-distant future (read: when I get around to it *wink*).
Nah, like you said, he's too lazy. And HERE is where slashdot comes in, with my cottage-industry observation above - let's get someone to offer to "mod" his stuff for him! :)
In any event, isn't unification what we're looking for now in computing? Isn't it a nice thing (that has spun an entire cottage-industry of mods and such) that we can get our computer "look and feel" to match our decor? To match itself, for that matter? Looking around my desk, I see some green, red, yellow, and orange LEDs. I would be tickled if they could all be more unified. With, of course, the exception of my HDD LEDs, which I like to be able to notice out of the corner of my eye.
Sounds to me like someone's got a case of the (pre-)Mondays. ;)
now
the site is dead.Wonderful.
I've stopped really caring to hear, every 1.5-2 years, about the shocking and revolutionary study that -gasp!- places that get daily use sans daily cleaning are actually dirtier than places that are - given their function - cleaned nightly.
However, there is a quote and its bretheren that never cease to amaze me:
The study found that where office workers who were told to clean their desks with disinfecting wipes, bacterial levels were reduced by 99%.
Hmm ... let's take a look at this ...
1. Disinfecting wipes can take out bacteria. Woohoo. We know this.
2. People are being encouraged to live in a germ-free world - and we'll suffer because of it.
I believe we're headed straight for another Black Plague, given our disposition towards feeling the need to scrub and kill every last germ off our surfaces. This is silly, and is in fact making us weaker as a whole, as we now have zero exposure to elements that, 50 years ago, we came into daily or near-daily contact with.
A few-point plan to save us from ourselves:
a. If you go to the bathroom, wash your damn hands after you're finished. And this does not just mean rinsing them under cool water - this means the full soap and warm-hot water treatement.
b. We're not Howard Hughes. Let a few germs go; they'll likely do us all a lot more good than bad. Yeah, they're all over your skin, clothes, and so on ... but to want to rid yourself of 'em is tantamount to saying that we ought to rip out our eyelashes - because there're symbiotic crawlies living in there, and that gives me the willies.
c. The only people that antibacterial soap ought to be dispensed to are nurses and the like. Antibacterial products are the result of an over-indulgent Western imagination rising up with our xenophobia with a desire to remain King or Queen of our Domain.
Anyway ... that's what I think. ;) Please wash your hands after going to the bathroom ... other people have to touch that door too, you know!
As a sort of aside, you know what's REALLY messed up? From what I understand, the face of India is changing ... eating out is now the de facto method of getting food.
The point?
Wait for it .....
These days, lots of Indians don't have any good curry recipies! To say nothing of Tandori and Chutney and so on...
I hope that I've been mis-informed, but if not, then this is a really bad sign of the times. :(
we've decided that this was not the appropriate time to launch a graphic adventure on the PC Translation: since it's not an FPS, kiddies won't buy it. It's witty, wry, and downright FUNNY. Quick! Yank it! A sad, sad, sign of the times. I played with GLEE the original Sam&Max game ... I guess we've come too far to go back to games being intellectually immersive (RAMA, S&M, etc). :(
I'm surprised that there hasn't been any discussion of Magic Lantern for awhile...
Oh there has ... those members have just been dragged off, beaten, and then killed.
I really shouldn't attempt humor before breakfast. :-/