---snip And the guy running NPR now is the former head of the government propaganda organ, the Voice of America, ---snip
This is scary. Let me get this straight...the guy who used to run our government sponsored radio network, broadcasting overseas for the purpose of brainwashing "america's enemies" now is in charge of the government-backed radio network which broadcasts within the U.S., to american citizens?
---snip A search of eBay [ebay.com] for "pen-based computer" [ebay.com] turns up nothing. Care to specify the exact make and model you're looking at? (also, how much are they going for?) ---snip
replace the "-" with a space (you were filtering out all hits that _included_ "based") and you get one hit. Take out the entire word "based", and it gets you 13 hits. Use look at the terminology used for these devices, and I'm sure you'll get even more.
---snip I am willing to sell this fine, low UID slashdot account for only $10000 (or about $500 per byte stored on the server). If that isn't a bargain, I don't know what is:-) ---snip
20 bytes to store an integer? Someone want to look at the source for slash and say if this is so?:)
Re:out of the technical journal DUH.
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I just moderated your post, how is it that I can reply to it now?
---snip Would you mind giving a source for your tale of globular formation and evolution? I've never heard any such thing, and I'm working on my Ph.D. in astronomy. ---snip
He's testing you to see if slashdot's infamous crack-smoking moderators will mod up a post that "looks" at a fast glance informative, without actually bothering to read the post. What's even more humorous are the people that respond to his posts seriously.
Besides, you may be working on your Ph. D. in astronomy, but that is only slightly related to the fascinating world of astrology he was talking about (look at the last paragraph of his post).
I first noticed him when he posted some completely bogus information about Unix interview questions, getting basic facts wrong.
Anyway, he wanted to see if people would mod up without thought, and guessing from his recent history of posts, he's doing pretty good.
---snip I hear polyspock might live on, but you can find a lot of the same people at www.pigdog.org ---snip
you probably already know about this, but in case you (or someone else who can identify with this thread) is looking for another spot to find some of the old crowd, the nnstuff echo is now a mailing list. I un-subscribed quite awhile ago during one of my email-purge moments, but I suspect a lot of the usuals are still there. There is a form to subscribe to the mailing list on totse.com.
Nemesis (who figured out the pattern behind the small hole "*", but never got any slack for life for this special knowledge).
I mean, hey, everytime I turn around, more and more of these powerful devices are costing less and less! I have now seen this happen first hand throughout the majority of my life, from my awesome 1.023mhz 8 bit 48KB ram/16 KB rom IIe, to nowadays rackable machines far more powerful than the fastest dedicated-room supercomputer's of just 15 years ago. And if you wait...the technology will just get better!!! YEAH!
---snip be used on vegetable oil, and it got sidetracked for petroleum. And bio-diesel is far less polluting, easy to produce (about as difficult as home brewing beer), and, depending on your country's excise etc, can be cheaper than petro-diesel. ---snip Oh, yeah, and most diesel engines can run it *without* modification, or with only very minor mods. I know of someone who's gone to bio-diesel on his farm: he goes to the local fish and chip shop and relieves them of their old oil (and they used to pay someone to take it away, so they're ---snip
Ok, then tell me again why everyone doesn't do this?:) I mean, since it is so economical and smells nice and all...
Species emerge and become extinct all the time. Why do people think humans will be any different? ---snip So someone tell me why it's so important that humanity not die out?
because it is the goal of every (successful) species to attempt to survive. In the grand scheme of things, there is no special reason for humans to continue existing, but to humans, this is the most important thing (once it is no longer important, then you are probably not going to last much longer).
Anyhow, despite the general human need to explore and expand their "turf", I would vote right now that manned space exploration this early _is_ wasteful. Send machines for the time being; at some point, as technology improves, it may be worth it to lug ourselves up there too, but not yet. To me, sending people now seems more a political statement than anything else.
Outlook (97, 98, 2000, XP) can already do everything you describe (except hosting the messages out as an IMAP server for other clients).
Set your view to group by category, and setup your rules to flag a message to the correct categories you want it to appear under. Done.
I do this with Outlook 2000, and I will vouch that it is much more flexible/easier/better to manage your messages via flags in one "folder" rather than a hierarchy of separate folders.
Why do all the new broadband technologies limit the upload to a very slow speed? 2.4Mbps is nice and all, but for it to be useful beyond surfing the web 153Kbps doesn't leave for much of anything else.
Collisions. Same reason your upstream is often capped on a cable modem. On shared media you will get a lot of collisions from the individuals on the network as they choose to transmit at random times.
From the downstream perspective this is simple to control; you have one broadcast point, you simply queue things to be sent, and there are no collisions. On the upstream side, you need to know when someone else will be transmitting, and this is harder.
I imagine one way of doing this is to assign time slices to groups of people; you do not transmit unless it is your turn, and you compete with far fewer people (the others in your group). If you have 2.4Mbps available and you, say, divide this by 16 groups, you get a ~153Kbps window to transmit in (plus 9.6Kbps left over on the spectrum possibly for out of band housekeeping duties).
This is what is probably happening here.
Another options (and a long shot), but perhaps they are just plain mean (or not confident in their ability to control who uses their service) and want to discourage people from using the system to host anything. "Hey, our security is lousy, we know people will start stealing our wireless service to host copyrighted material/launch dos attacks from, maybe if we lock the bandwidth down at the tower this will not be attractive and the phreaks will go elsewhere".
Grrr...100 _yards_ per hour!
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one-car train will run at speeds as high as 100 meters per hour (relative to the space station) or 27 megameters per hour (relative to the Earth)."
Ok, besides the "27 megameters per hour!" silliness, a quick look at the actual article states the rate of travel Imperial Units, _not_ metric:
on this railway will have a top speed of only 300 feet per hour, but the entire line -- tracks and all -- will travel almost nine
100 Meters per hour does not equal 100 Yards per hour. Getting your measurement units right doesn't seem like a big thing, but it really really is important, especially in engineering situations. It's like "O" and "0" in a computer character set; they appear similar, but are completely different. Try doing things with ASCII value $4F where $30 was intended will lead to completely different results, all over something that seemed trivial.
Same with getting your measurement units right. It's important. Use the wrong ASCII character, and your program crashes; uses the wrong measurement units, your probe crashes.
---blockquoth
Firewire and Ethernet have two very different applications and are designed accordingly. Do you want to give your external hard drives, digital cameras, and iPods IP addresses? Do you want to have to worry about firewalling & routing for you iPod? How would you coordinate the caches of two different machines using the same disk? If you don't want to do that, do you want to worry about some sort of locking mechanism for the disk, to prevent concurrent access? ---snip
Just a quick question, but why would you assume TCP to be the layer 3 protocol of choice?
The question was "why not Ethernet instead of Firewire", not "let's use TCP/IP". Besides that, even the "problems" you show would not be hard to fix.
---snip
Most importantly, just grow up. Silly benchmarks like bandwidth, clock speed, etc., are just useful for comparing objects IN THE SAME CLASS. Maybe/. will one day grow out of their "bandwidth/clockrate == penis size" mentality and actually worry about getting USEFUL PERFORMANCE out of their systems. Sheesh. ---snip
whoa, calm down. _Point to Point_ Gigabit Ethernet in the real world is significantly faster than the current latest addition to ieee 1394, and that performance would be useful to me right now, and I'm sure others. In the near future, this extra speed will be useful performance to many more people (HDTV video capture from a camera and back out to an external drive perhaps?).
It'd be 256k/33k since the upstream won't run at 56k - unless they supply a digital line at your end:)
Sorry, I was assuming that there was a 56K connection using v.90 technology (aka a 56k capable modem). In reality it would probably be something like 40-48k, I guess.
Upstream for v.90 _at best_ is 33.6 as originally posted, not 40-48k (which is a likely downstream speed).
So there is plenty of room for three players. If in the long run Nintendo "only" sells 12 million GameCubes as opposed to Microsoft's 18 million and Sony's 23 million, I think there will be plenty of profit to be had.
But it will not work out that way; typically in this type of market, once the FUD goes back and forth, and the market finally decides, there will be one winner and a distant second, and perhaps third...instead of 12 vs. 18 vs. 23, it will most likely become 0 vs. 14 vs. 39...until the marketplace (the winners) become lazy enough to be vulnerable to a motivated, smarter competitor.
So to ask which console will "win" the console wars is like asking which VCR manufacturer will "win" the VCR wars. The market is too big for that now. In fact, come 2005 I wouldn't be shocked to find a couple of more players in the ring...
VCR's are standards based. Consoles are about as proprietary as you can get away with manufacturing, economically. As a leader emerges, you will be forced into choosing one "format" over another. Think BetaMAX or VHS.
I'm definitely with you on one thing however; the dedicated console market is becoming really big. If we had known the demand would have grown this large, then it would have seemed 15 years ago to be worth the time to invest in protecting a hurting company (Atari?) to guarantee a dominant position later.
Just theorizing why so many consoles are sold...Microsoft. The typical users quite powerful PC is to unreliable, to bogged down to for many people to tolerate. Typical user wants to "install" (pop the cd in) their game, and start playing immediately, and not worry about having a compatible anything, or some type of bad software interaction that would reduce the performance of the game. People are willing to pay for this.
---snip
Internap - They ROCK! Never been in a facility, but others I worked with liked them, they're connectivity is top-notch. They're expensive, and worth it if you need good connectivity to most of the net.
---snip
probably have not seen the inside of one of their facilities, because they arn't in the colo business?:)
Objectivism won't work because people will never figure out the difference between a principled person acting in rational self-interest and a emotionless automaton with no ethics, principles or values.
I know this was not your point, by why would this keep it from working?
Slashdot Mirror
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Seriously, though, you don't get any points for tearing down an argument that no-one made.
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actually, it looks like he got 5...
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And the guy running NPR now is the former head of the government propaganda organ, the Voice of America,
---snip
This is scary. Let me get this straight...the guy who used to run our government sponsored radio network, broadcasting overseas for the purpose of brainwashing "america's enemies" now is in charge of the government-backed radio network which broadcasts within the U.S., to american citizens?
not only was your link wrong, but your code has a bug that has been annoying the hell out of me:
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50 PRINT "Login:"
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it should read:
50 PRINT "Login:";
other than this minor cosmetic problem, your fine authentication routine is quite impressive!
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A search of eBay [ebay.com] for "pen-based computer" [ebay.com] turns up nothing. Care to specify the exact make and model you're looking at? (also, how much are they going for?)
---snip
replace the "-" with a space (you were filtering out all hits that _included_ "based") and you get one hit. Take out the entire word "based", and it gets you 13 hits. Use look at the terminology used for these devices, and I'm sure you'll get even more.
looks like Dendrite, user #3, but maybe he is/was an editor. Anyway, all the low UID users are listed there.
r s& author=&tid=§ion=askslashdot&sort=1
I wonder if they will be getting swamped with emails (if their email accounts are still valid) with offers of cash now?
http://ask.slashdot.org/search.pl?query=&op=use
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:)
I am willing to sell this fine, low UID slashdot account for only $10000 (or about $500 per byte stored on the server). If that isn't a bargain, I don't know what is
---snip
20 bytes to store an integer? Someone want to look at the source for slash and say if this is so?
I just moderated your post, how is it that I can reply to it now?
---snip
Would you mind giving a source for your tale of globular formation and evolution? I've never heard any such thing, and I'm working on my Ph.D. in astronomy.
---snip
He's testing you to see if slashdot's infamous crack-smoking moderators will mod up a post that "looks" at a fast glance informative, without actually bothering to read the post. What's even more humorous are the people that respond to his posts seriously.
Besides, you may be working on your Ph. D. in astronomy, but that is only slightly related to the fascinating world of astrology he was talking about (look at the last paragraph of his post).
I first noticed him when he posted some completely bogus information about Unix interview questions, getting basic facts wrong.
Anyway, he wanted to see if people would mod up without thought, and guessing from his recent history of posts, he's doing pretty good.
Look at his log at www.pdrap.org
---snip
I hear polyspock might live on, but you can find a lot of the same people at www.pigdog.org
---snip
you probably already know about this, but in case you (or someone else who can identify with this thread) is looking for another spot to find some of the old crowd, the nnstuff echo is now a mailing list. I un-subscribed quite awhile ago during one of my email-purge moments, but I suspect a lot of the usuals are still there. There is a form to subscribe to the mailing list on totse.com.
Nemesis (who figured out the pattern behind the small hole "*", but never got any slack for life for this special knowledge).
---snip
Oh yeah, those were definetly good times.. anarchy all around. One of the big california BBS's (and temple of the screaming electron)
---snip
to be correct, "& the temple of the screaming electron". Not "and".
NirvanaNet, face-feeds...I miss the good old days.
Version 3 is still actively played via email, over the internet. Version 4 is in Beta right now.
go to www.vgaplanets.com, and start playing!
I mean, hey, everytime I turn around, more and more of these powerful devices are costing less and less! I have now seen this happen first hand throughout the majority of my life, from my awesome 1.023mhz 8 bit 48KB ram/16 KB rom IIe, to nowadays rackable machines far more powerful than the fastest dedicated-room supercomputer's of just 15 years ago. And if you wait...the technology will just get better!!! YEAH!
:)
---snip
:) I mean, since it is so economical and smells nice and all...
be used on vegetable oil, and it got sidetracked for petroleum. And bio-diesel is far less polluting, easy to produce (about as difficult as home brewing beer), and, depending on your country's excise etc, can be cheaper than petro-diesel.
---snip
Oh, yeah, and most diesel engines can run it *without* modification, or with only very minor mods. I know of someone who's gone to bio-diesel on his farm: he goes to the local fish and chip shop and relieves them of their old oil (and they used to pay someone to take it away, so they're
---snip
Ok, then tell me again why everyone doesn't do this?
Species emerge and become extinct all the time. Why do people think humans will be any different?
---snip
So someone tell me why it's so important that humanity not die out?
because it is the goal of every (successful) species to attempt to survive. In the grand scheme of things, there is no special reason for humans to continue existing, but to humans, this is the most important thing (once it is no longer important, then you are probably not going to last much longer).
Anyhow, despite the general human need to explore and expand their "turf", I would vote right now that manned space exploration this early _is_ wasteful. Send machines for the time being; at some point, as technology improves, it may be worth it to lug ourselves up there too, but not yet. To me, sending people now seems more a political statement than anything else.
Outlook (97, 98, 2000, XP) can already do everything you describe (except hosting the messages out as an IMAP server for other clients).
Set your view to group by category, and setup your rules to flag a message to the correct categories you want it to appear under. Done.
I do this with Outlook 2000, and I will vouch that it is much more flexible/easier/better to manage your messages via flags in one "folder" rather than a hierarchy of separate folders.
Why do all the new broadband technologies limit the upload to a very slow speed? 2.4Mbps is nice and all, but for it to be useful beyond surfing the web 153Kbps doesn't leave for much of anything else.
Collisions. Same reason your upstream is often capped on a cable modem. On shared media you will get a lot of collisions from the individuals on the network as they choose to transmit at random times.
From the downstream perspective this is simple to control; you have one broadcast point, you simply queue things to be sent, and there are no collisions. On the upstream side, you need to know when someone else will be transmitting, and this is harder.
I imagine one way of doing this is to assign time slices to groups of people; you do not transmit unless it is your turn, and you compete with far fewer people (the others in your group). If you have 2.4Mbps available and you, say, divide this by 16 groups, you get a ~153Kbps window to transmit in (plus 9.6Kbps left over on the spectrum possibly for out of band housekeeping duties).
This is what is probably happening here.
Another options (and a long shot), but perhaps they are just plain mean (or not confident in their ability to control who uses their service) and want to discourage people from using the system to host anything. "Hey, our security is lousy, we know people will start stealing our wireless service to host copyrighted material/launch dos attacks from, maybe if we lock the bandwidth down at the tower this will not be attractive and the phreaks will go elsewhere".
one-car train will run at speeds as high as 100 meters per hour (relative to the space station) or 27 megameters per hour (relative to the Earth)."
Ok, besides the "27 megameters per hour!" silliness, a quick look at the actual article states the rate of travel Imperial Units, _not_ metric:
on this railway will have a top speed of only 300 feet per hour, but the entire line -- tracks and all -- will travel almost nine
100 Meters per hour does not equal 100 Yards per hour. Getting your measurement units right doesn't seem like a big thing, but it really really is important, especially in engineering situations. It's like "O" and "0" in a computer character set; they appear similar, but are completely different. Try doing things with ASCII value $4F where $30 was intended will lead to completely different results, all over something that seemed trivial.
Same with getting your measurement units right. It's important. Use the wrong ASCII character, and your program crashes; uses the wrong measurement units, your probe crashes.
Ummm...Iridium is still up; although bringing the whole constellation down would be pretty spectacular.
22/7 is inaccurate after the second decimal place.
geesh, it was meant as humor, not for calculating orbits.
In a point to point situation (peripheral to host), collisions would quickly become much less of an issue :)
Design it badly and make the host side act like a hub, then yes, it would not be _that_ much faster than Firewire.
---blockquoth
/. will one day grow out of their "bandwidth/clockrate == penis size" mentality and actually worry about getting USEFUL PERFORMANCE out of their systems. Sheesh.
Firewire and Ethernet have two very different applications and are designed accordingly. Do you want to give your external hard drives, digital cameras, and iPods IP addresses? Do you want to have to worry about firewalling & routing for you iPod? How would you coordinate the caches of two different machines using the same disk? If you don't want to do that, do you want to worry about some sort of locking mechanism for the disk, to prevent concurrent access?
---snip
Just a quick question, but why would you assume TCP to be the layer 3 protocol of choice?
The question was "why not Ethernet instead of Firewire", not "let's use TCP/IP". Besides that, even the "problems" you show would not be hard to fix.
---snip
Most importantly, just grow up. Silly benchmarks like bandwidth, clock speed, etc., are just useful for comparing objects IN THE SAME CLASS. Maybe
---snip
whoa, calm down. _Point to Point_ Gigabit Ethernet in the real world is significantly faster than the current latest addition to ieee 1394, and that performance would be useful to me right now, and I'm sure others. In the near future, this extra speed will be useful performance to many more people (HDTV video capture from a camera and back out to an external drive perhaps?).
It'd be 256k/33k since the upstream won't run at 56k - unless they supply a digital line at your end :)
Sorry, I was assuming that there was a 56K connection using v.90 technology (aka a 56k capable modem). In reality it would probably be something like 40-48k, I guess.
Upstream for v.90 _at best_ is 33.6 as originally posted, not 40-48k (which is a likely downstream speed).
So there is plenty of room for three players. If in the long run Nintendo "only" sells 12 million GameCubes as opposed to Microsoft's 18 million and Sony's 23 million, I think there will be plenty of profit to be had.
But it will not work out that way; typically in this type of market, once the FUD goes back and forth, and the market finally decides, there will be one winner and a distant second, and perhaps third...instead of 12 vs. 18 vs. 23, it will most likely become 0 vs. 14 vs. 39...until the marketplace (the winners) become lazy enough to be vulnerable to a motivated, smarter competitor.
So to ask which console will "win" the console wars is like asking which VCR manufacturer will "win" the VCR wars. The market is too big for that now. In fact, come 2005 I wouldn't be shocked to find a couple of more players in the ring...
VCR's are standards based. Consoles are about as proprietary as you can get away with manufacturing, economically. As a leader emerges, you will be forced into choosing one "format" over another. Think BetaMAX or VHS.
I'm definitely with you on one thing however; the dedicated console market is becoming really big. If we had known the demand would have grown this large, then it would have seemed 15 years ago to be worth the time to invest in protecting a hurting company (Atari?) to guarantee a dominant position later.
Just theorizing why so many consoles are sold...Microsoft. The typical users quite powerful PC is to unreliable, to bogged down to for many people to tolerate. Typical user wants to "install" (pop the cd in) their game, and start playing immediately, and not worry about having a compatible anything, or some type of bad software interaction that would reduce the performance of the game. People are willing to pay for this.
---snip
:)
Internap - They ROCK! Never been in a facility, but others I worked with liked them, they're connectivity is top-notch. They're expensive, and worth it if you need good connectivity to most of the net.
---snip
probably have not seen the inside of one of their facilities, because they arn't in the colo business?