When I was in the 1973rd Com Group (AF), there was a mandate/reg that said any project which required a greater than 30% change in source code was to be redone in Ada.
The civilians in our shop where clueless with Ada and only passable with COBOL. When one of the ladies was sent back from Ada training due to her complete lack of programing skill, Ada was blacklisted by the department heads.
From then on all projects that required more than 30% change were divided into smaller projects so they would not be affected by the 30% rule.
Worse than that, when one of the Sgts converted a project into Ada on his own, he was reprimanded and his code deleted... So much for Government regulations.
When a change is mandated that will challenge the skill (or lack of it) of an established department, it will be resisted in any and all ways possible. Mereley asking them to consider it will do nothing.
A tactic similar to EEO is probably the only thing that will ever be effective. ie. 25% of office software shall be FOSS by 2007.
Ever see penguins grouping before going into the ocean? The ones closest to the water don't go in because they're afraid they'll get eaten by the seals. Therest are waiting for the crowd to move.
Eventually theres so many penguins, the crowd accidently pushes one happless penguin into the water.
All the penguins shutup and stare at the volunteer. If he doesn't get eaten, all the penguins start diving into the water in a continuous flow.
We need countries like Venezuala to openly use FOSS so that other countries can gather courage and join them.
I just hope that this isn't another maneuver to get better pricing.
If what you say is true then MS needs to have this as a disclaimer:
This product not intended for internet use without prior installation of properly configured FreeBSD NAT/ipfw gateway.
From your situation, The most you can say is "Even with a properly configured firewall/nat an irresponsible user can still get infected."
Then you would have a point.
But the majority of most Windows users are naked on the internet and using IE. Try it with their shoes and see if you still think users are to blame instead of MS.
Characterizing it as "Just a few bucks" is misleading. What was at stake was an absolute monopoly on synthetic rubber production in the United States. Walter Teagle was a director of Std oil and also a board member for the American Branch of IG Farben, American IG. Another board member was Edsel Ford.
The cooperation continued for about two years into the war until the major American businessmen decided it was more prudent to cut ties with IG Farben than continue.
Strategic planning between the companies was common place, Even so far as to create a rubber shortage in the US. All for "Just a few more Bucks". The following quoted from http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_stree t/chapter_02.htm
In 1945 Dr. Oskar Loehr, deputy head of the I.G. "Tea Buro," confirmed that I. G. Farben and Standard Oil of New Jersey operated a "preconceived plan" to suppress development of the synthetic rubber industry in the United States, to the advantage of the German Wehrmacht and to the disadvantage of the United States in World War II.
Dr. Loehr's testimony reads (in part) as follows:
Q. Is it true that while the delay in divulging the buna [synthetic rubber] processes to American rubber companies was taking place, Chemnyco and Jasco were in the meantime keeping I.G. well informed in regard to synthetic rubber development in the U.S.?
A. Yes.
Q. So that at all times I.G. was fully aware of the state of the development of the American synthetic rubber industry?
A. Yes.
Q. Were you present at the Hague meeting when Mr. Howard [of Standard Oil] went there in 1939?
A. No.
Q. Who was present?
A. Mr. Ringer, who was accompanied by Dr. Brown of Ludwigshafen. Did they tell you about the negotiations?
A. Yes, as far as they were on the buna part of it.
Q. Is it true that Mr. Howard told I.G. at this meeting that the developments in the U.S. had reached such a stage that it would no longer be possible for him to keep the information in regard to the buna processes from the American companies?
A. Mr. Ringer reported it.
Q. Was it at that meeting that for the first time Mr. Howard told I.G. the American rubber companies might have to be informed of the processes and he assured I.G. that Standard Oil would control the synthetic rubber industry in the U.S.? Is that right?
A. That is right. That is the knowledge I got through Mr. Ringer.
Q. So that in all these arrangements since the beginning of the development of the synthetic rubber industry the suppression of the synthetic rubber industry in the U.S. was part of a preconceived plan between I.G. on the one hand and Mr. Howard of Standard Oil on the other?
A. That is a conclusion that must be drawn from the previous facts.11
Germany for all its science could never figure out the process of making vulcanized rubber. Their planes suffered, their tanks suffered in cold weather, etc. So in the midst of WWII, Std Oil went over to Germany and teamed up with a German firm to build a factory to produce an even better synthetic rubber for the third reich. As an added bonus, this plant used slave labor from Auschwitz.
Anyways, After WWII, Std Oil was brought up on charges of treason. Their defense was "We owe no alegiance to any nation", or at least words to that effect. This defense worked. A company is not a citizen.
The branch of Std Oil that was responsible for the German rubber plant eventually became Exxon.
There's no way to empiracally prove it one way or the other. -- Slime-dogg
Insurance is all about the odds.
Drive red sports car, your insurance rate will be higher because statistics show that you are more likely to be in an accident.
If there were really a particular God that really cared about prayer, this would show up in the statistics as longer life, less disease, fewer accidents, etc for that Gods worshipers.
Bottom line is you will never get a discount on any kind of insurance (health, life, homeowners, etc) by being a member of any religion because no particular religious belief has any statistically beneficial effect.
Either there is no God, or prayers have no effect, or Gods "miracles" are distributed randomly to all (including those who do not pray).
There is no way you could ever feel a kick from a cosmic ray.
There is conservation of momentum AND conservation of energy to be considered. These are conserved seperately.
Consider a truck and an unlucky mosquito.
The truck scooting along at lets say 100mph smacks a mosquito that was hovering.
If we consider it elastic, the mosquito will rebound from the truck at an INCREDIBLE speed while the trucks speed is diminished by only the TINYest amount.
An inelastic collision, while dire for the mosquito leaves the truck traveling again with hardly any measurable effect.
lets leave the truck sitting idle and give the mosquito a little boost in speed.
299 792 458 m / s * 2.5 milligrams
A mosquito traveling near the speed of light will have a momentum of about 750 kg.m/s
Lets assuming an inelastic collision. So the mass of the mosquito can be ignored since the truck is so much more massive. Legaly, an 18 wheeler can go as high as 36287 kg. ( If were can give a mosquito the speed of light, we can give the 18 wheeler a full load)
(750 kg.m/s) / (36 287 kg) = 0.020668559 m/s
So the truck seems to rebound from the collision with a blistering 2cm/s.
btw, newtons laws don't really work for relativistic velocities, but what the hey, its at least close.
So a mosquito traveling at the speed of light has an energy of:
Bob, the mosquito, has delivered about 27 tons-of-TNT of energy to the trucks windshield.
This energy doesn't go away, but because of conservation of momentum it isn't transfered to the truck as a change in velocity (other than the 2cm/s we calculated). No, it gets transfered to the truck as heat. Lots of Heat. Enough heat to vaporize and destroy bob and the truck. Bits will fly everywhere so ofcourse we no longer have an inelastic collision.
But this is okay since my long winded point has been revealed.
An inelastic collision between a super tiny object and propertionately super large object will convert nearly all of its energy into heat.
The mass ratio between a human and a cosmic ray is ridiculous. About 7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms in the human body compared to ONE cosmic ray. ( Even one with an Iron nuclei is laughable)
Even bob had a better ratio to the truck of
14,514,800,000 to 1
A cosmic ray's mass in proportion to a human being is more along the lines of a mosquito to a continent rather than a truck.
So what about energy? An ultra-high energy cosmic ray has about
(10^19) electron volts = 1.60217646 Joules
This is about 0.38 calories, because of the nature of the collision, the heat generated on collision will immediately be adsorbed/distrubuted by the surrounding tissue and again, you wont feel it.
Bottom line. Except for maybe a flash of light if it collides with your eyeball fluid, You will never physicly notice it.
But there are people born without any sense of "other". These people are considered cold and heartless and are the ones that can spontaneously become sociopaths. What you describe is what can happen to normal people, but presupposes that all people are "normal". This is not the case.
When an eight year old thinks pulling wings off of baby birds is just a way to pass the time, you've a dangerous sociopath in the making.
I agree with you that it is the ratio of voters to non-voters that is important.
But I do question your opinion:
Actually, the current mobilisation of voters shows only one thing: there is more people who doubt of the future, hence go to vote to secure theirs. So basically, there are a lot more people who are in doubt and do not know where to stand, which doesn't sound good for a supposedly "united" country.
You've equated high voter turnout with "doubt". Most people deride the US for its citizens not voting, now you are deriding them for doing so.
FWIW, I think a high voter turn out is a healthy sign for a democracy. I just wish citizens took a more active role in all aspects of government. Not just the presidential vote.
Okay, I just don't know how to respond to that. To me, it is obvious that telnet is not a "web browser". Not just obvious, but completely self evident. (as an asside, telnet cannot do FTP. Two telnets maybe, but not one.)
Well I do have one thing, telnet does not do links. I can telnet somewhere and get a bunch of numbers, and then manually add the numbers. Using your logic I could now say that telnet is now also a very, very BAD calculator that just requires a lot of more manual intervention. That argument would also make telnet a jpg viewer, a zipfile utility, and a neural network simulator, all of course with the appropriate manual intervention.
I don't know how I'm "painting with too broad a brush" when I say that a "web browser" should at the very least "browse" the "web".
But please, I would really like to know whether or not you consider a cooperative virus which downloads new payloads using http-get to be a "web browser".
And also your stance on whether a keylogger that uses http-put to upload your passwords to a hacker site is a "web browser".
If that were the only criteria than not only is telnet a "web browser", but also consider that any cooperative virus which downloads new payloads using http-get becomes a "web browser". A keylogger that uses http-put to upload your passwords to a hacker site is now a "web browser".
These are not web browsers just as "windows update" is not a web browser.
A web browser should allow link following. Thats what browsing means. To see the pages, the "web" part of web browser, it should render html. As a base a "web browser" should at least do these things. Lynx, links, w3m, netscape, ie, mozilla, etc do these things and are considered web browsers. Javascript, bookmarks, url parsing, and plug-ins are optional but any "web browser" would be enhanced by them. These things have no place in windows update or telnet, because those things are not "web browsers".
This was my implication. an office suite does so much more than edit a file. Just as a "web browser" does so much more than a simple "get".
The catagorization of a program as a "web browser" simply because it uses "http" to transport files is wrong because it is too broad.
Windows 95 was released with great fanfare, including a commercial featuring the Rolling Stones song Start Me Up (a reference to the Start button). Microsoft's advertising campaign featured stories of people waiting in line outside stores to get a copy, and there were tales of people without computers buying the software on hype alone, not even knowing what Windows was.
As near as I can tell, Bill Gates only code contribution to MicroSoft was he wrote the non-runtime (ie editor) for GW-BASIC. Two other guys wrote the runtime (interpreter) and mathlib. -- redelm
If redelm is right, then not only did BG take credit from kildal, but from those two nameless programmers as well.
I've always thought (note to Secret Service: as thought experiment only, never acted on) that you could keep up small-time counterfeiting for years without a lot of problems.
Don't count on it.
I cant find any references now, but I remember reading about a counterfeiter who the secret service hunted for many years (decades?). He was never caught, but was finally identified after his death (old age), since they found his printing press. He drove the secret service nuts and was one of the longest sought counterfeiters ever.
The guy only did ones and fives, and only enough to live on. And he never spent too much in a single store.
The town of Greenwich, CT is littered with very wealthy people. Many of them are NYC-based corporate execs, network TV news anchors, etc. The town gov't protects them, even to the extent of breaking the law. On the east coast, there is an understood right of the public to access the intertidal zone, but Greenwich stubbornly (and illegally) arrests any non-residents found on its beaches without local permission. This has been going on for years.
Signed, a CT AC.
I quoting the AC because I just thought people should see this and I didn't have any mod points..
Um, why would he recognize the *old* Anakin as his father?!
Call me senile if I remember this wrong, but didn't this seen happen after Luke took off his fathers mask and cradled his fathers head as his father died. Hair or not, his face was clear.
But I agree with you, The greedo edit was unneeded and imo unforgivable.
In the next imporved release, the storm troopers will be carrying walkie-talkies instead of blasters.
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When I was in the 1973rd Com Group (AF), there was a mandate/reg that said any project which required a greater than 30% change in source code was to be redone in Ada.
The civilians in our shop where clueless with Ada and only passable with COBOL. When one of the ladies was sent back from Ada training due to her complete lack of programing skill, Ada was blacklisted by the department heads.
From then on all projects that required more than 30% change were divided into smaller projects so they would not be affected by the 30% rule.
Worse than that, when one of the Sgts converted a project into Ada on his own, he was reprimanded and his code deleted... So much for Government regulations.
When a change is mandated that will challenge the skill (or lack of it) of an established department, it will be resisted in any and all ways possible. Mereley asking them to consider it will do nothing.
A tactic similar to EEO is probably the only thing that will ever be effective. ie. 25% of office software shall be FOSS by 2007.
This deserves to be a T-Shirt.
Eventually theres so many penguins, the crowd accidently pushes one happless penguin into the water.
All the penguins shutup and stare at the volunteer. If he doesn't get eaten, all the penguins start diving into the water in a continuous flow.
We need countries like Venezuala to openly use FOSS so that other countries can gather courage and join them.
I just hope that this isn't another maneuver to get better pricing.
Then you would have a point.
But the majority of most Windows users are naked on the internet and using IE. Try it with their shoes and see if you still think users are to blame instead of MS.
Characterizing it as "Just a few bucks" is misleading. What was at stake was an absolute monopoly on synthetic rubber production in the United States. Walter Teagle was a director of Std oil and also a board member for the American Branch of IG Farben, American IG. Another board member was Edsel Ford.
The cooperation continued for about two years into the war until the major American businessmen decided it was more prudent to cut ties with IG Farben than continue.
Strategic planning between the companies was common place, Even so far as to create a rubber shortage in the US. All for "Just a few more Bucks". The following quoted from http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_stree t/chapter_02.htm
"Look, I'm doing the Computer!!"
The US did not sell the machines to germany.
IBM sold the machines to germany. Large corporations don't give a damn about which country is doing what to whom. It's all about the money.
Same thing happened with "Standard Oil"
Germany for all its science could never figure out the process of making vulcanized rubber. Their planes suffered, their tanks suffered in cold weather, etc. So in the midst of WWII, Std Oil went over to Germany and teamed up with a German firm to build a factory to produce an even better synthetic rubber for the third reich. As an added bonus, this plant used slave labor from Auschwitz.
Anyways, After WWII, Std Oil was brought up on charges of treason. Their defense was "We owe no alegiance to any nation", or at least words to that effect. This defense worked. A company is not a citizen.
The branch of Std Oil that was responsible for the German rubber plant eventually became Exxon.
protein and grease parts find the bottom, watery layer the most comfortable place, while the DNA prefers the top, alcohol layer.
From "How to Extract DNA from Anything Living":t raction/
http://gslc.genetics.utah.edu/units/activities/ex
Insurance is all about the odds.
Drive red sports car, your insurance rate will be higher because statistics show that you are more likely to be in an accident.
If there were really a particular God that really cared about prayer, this would show up in the statistics as longer life, less disease, fewer accidents, etc for that Gods worshipers.
Bottom line is you will never get a discount on any kind of insurance (health, life, homeowners, etc) by being a member of any religion because no particular religious belief has any statistically beneficial effect.
Either there is no God, or prayers have no effect, or Gods "miracles" are distributed randomly to all (including those who do not pray).
You pick.
I always reply to these late, sorry.
E=mc^2 does not apply here.
There is no way you could ever feel a kick from a cosmic ray.
There is conservation of momentum AND conservation of energy to be considered. These are conserved seperately.
Consider a truck and an unlucky mosquito.
The truck scooting along at lets say 100mph smacks a mosquito that was hovering.
If we consider it elastic, the mosquito will rebound from the truck at an INCREDIBLE speed while the trucks speed is diminished by only the TINYest amount.
An inelastic collision, while dire for the mosquito leaves the truck traveling again with hardly any measurable effect.
lets leave the truck sitting idle and give the mosquito a little boost in speed.
299 792 458 m / s * 2.5 milligrams
A mosquito traveling near the speed of light
will have a momentum of about 750 kg.m/s
Lets assuming an inelastic collision. So the mass of the mosquito can be ignored since the truck is so much more massive. Legaly, an 18 wheeler can go as high as 36287 kg. ( If were can give a mosquito the speed of light, we can give the 18 wheeler a full load)
(750 kg.m/s) / (36 287 kg) = 0.020668559 m/s
So the truck seems to rebound from the collision with a blistering 2cm/s.
btw, newtons laws don't really work for relativistic velocities, but what the hey, its at least close.
So a mosquito traveling at the speed of light has an energy of:
(299 792 458 m/s* 299 792 458 m/s * (0.0000025 kg)) / 2 = 1.1234 × 10^11 Joules
A 1000 tons of TNT has about 4.185*10^12 joules
Bob, the mosquito, has delivered about 27 tons-of-TNT of energy to the trucks windshield.
This energy doesn't go away, but because of conservation of momentum it isn't transfered to the truck as a change in velocity (other than the 2cm/s we calculated). No, it gets transfered to the truck as heat. Lots of Heat. Enough heat to vaporize and destroy bob and the truck. Bits will fly everywhere so ofcourse we no longer have an inelastic collision.
But this is okay since my long winded point has been revealed.
An inelastic collision between a super tiny object and propertionately super large object will convert nearly all of its energy into heat.
The mass ratio between a human and a cosmic ray is ridiculous. About 7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms in the human body compared to ONE cosmic ray. ( Even one with an Iron nuclei is laughable)
Even bob had a better ratio to the truck of
14,514,800,000 to 1
A cosmic ray's mass in proportion to a human being is more along the lines of a mosquito to a continent rather than a truck.
So what about energy? An ultra-high energy cosmic ray has about
(10^19) electron volts = 1.60217646 Joules
This is about 0.38 calories, because of the nature of the collision, the heat generated on collision will immediately be adsorbed/distrubuted by the surrounding tissue and again, you wont feel it.
Bottom line. Except for maybe a flash of light if it collides with your eyeball fluid, You will never physicly notice it.
Tho maybe bob might notice a bit of a flush.
http://news.google.com/news?q=boy+kill+family+shre k&btnG=Search+News
When an eight year old thinks pulling wings off of baby birds is just a way to pass the time, you've a dangerous sociopath in the making.
Don't confuse momentum with energy. Unless the momentum is there, the energy just gets dissapated as heat.
But I do question your opinion:
You've equated high voter turnout with "doubt". Most people deride the US for its citizens not voting, now you are deriding them for doing so.
FWIW, I think a high voter turn out is a healthy sign for a democracy. I just wish citizens took a more active role in all aspects of government. Not just the presidential vote.
Wow. You mean you aren't a brainless, ignorant, MS-bashing, knee-jerk linux fan boy like the rest?
got modded up.
I'm wonder how they will mod me..
Okay, I just don't know how to respond to that. To me, it is obvious that telnet is not a "web browser". Not just obvious, but completely self evident. (as an asside, telnet cannot do FTP. Two telnets maybe, but not one.)
Well I do have one thing, telnet does not do links. I can telnet somewhere and get a bunch of numbers, and then manually add the numbers. Using your logic I could now say that telnet is now also a very, very BAD calculator that just requires a lot of more manual intervention. That argument would also make telnet a jpg viewer, a zipfile utility, and a neural network simulator, all of course with the appropriate manual intervention.
I don't know how I'm "painting with too broad a brush" when I say that a "web browser" should at the very least "browse" the "web".
But please, I would really like to know whether or not you consider a cooperative virus which downloads new payloads using http-get to be a "web browser".
And also your stance on whether a keylogger that uses http-put to upload your passwords to a hacker site is a "web browser".
No, its not.
Nobody's going to read this, since I'm replying late but..
telnet update.microsoft.com 80 /path/to/file/latest.patch.zip HTTP/1.0
GET
So now telnet is a web browser?
If that were the only criteria than not only is telnet a "web browser", but also consider that any cooperative virus which downloads new payloads using http-get becomes a "web browser". A keylogger that uses http-put to upload your passwords to a hacker site is now a "web browser".
These are not web browsers just as "windows update" is not a web browser.
A web browser should allow link following. Thats what browsing means. To see the pages, the "web" part of web browser, it should render html. As a base a "web browser" should at least do these things. Lynx, links, w3m, netscape, ie, mozilla, etc do these things and are considered web browsers. Javascript, bookmarks, url parsing, and plug-ins are optional but any "web browser" would be enhanced by them. These things have no place in windows update or telnet, because those things are not "web browsers".
This was my implication. an office suite does so much more than edit a file. Just as a "web browser" does so much more than a simple "get".
The catagorization of a program as a "web browser" simply because it uses "http" to transport files is wrong because it is too broad.
Windows 95 was released with great fanfare, including a commercial featuring the Rolling Stones song Start Me Up (a reference to the Start button). Microsoft's advertising campaign featured stories of people waiting in line outside stores to get a copy, and there were tales of people without computers buying the software on hype alone, not even knowing what Windows was.
As long as its not Stupid
Better yet.. Wall Street Journal
Excuse me Bill, but didn't George Bush get an MBA from Harvard?
If redelm is right, then not only did BG take credit from kildal, but from those two nameless programmers as well.
Thats a bit of a stretch. vi can edit text and so can open office, but vi is not an office suite.
Windows update just does updates. It may use http to transfer files, but it could just as easily have used ftp.
Don't count on it.
I cant find any references now, but I remember reading about a counterfeiter who the secret service hunted for many years (decades?). He was never caught, but was finally identified after his death (old age), since they found his printing press. He drove the secret service nuts and was one of the longest sought counterfeiters ever.
The guy only did ones and fives, and only enough to live on. And he never spent too much in a single store.
But even so, they were still looking for him..
Signed, a CT AC.
I quoting the AC because I just thought people should see this and I didn't have any mod points..
Call me senile if I remember this wrong, but didn't this seen happen after Luke took off his fathers mask and cradled his fathers head as his father died. Hair or not, his face was clear.
But I agree with you, The greedo edit was unneeded and imo unforgivable.
In the next imporved release, the storm troopers will be carrying walkie-talkies instead of blasters.