If wealth was really spread over , you could imagine a society where all is automated and people could have more free time. For example people work only 10-20 hours, for the same salary and power of buying. But this does not happen. people laid off by automation see their jobs class disappear like water on sand and most probably , while a few can retrain to something better, most can only find a lower paying job. And then it is the drop to the bottom rung. If you have 45% of what looks to be middle and low class job replaced by autmation, to WHOM are you getting to sell those ? BY that point that probably means 50% of the population will leave day to day without much wealth.
It is not a question of luddism, it is a question of greed. All those free hour liberated are not used to make the rest of the work force work less, and thus making palce for the liebrated job. They are used to make those job utterly 100% disappear. At some point society will break down and people will simply run amok killing anybody with a bit of wealth and pillaging around, because they will have absolutely nothing to lose.
CAPS and CAPS 2 , forced the airline to deliver so many data on traveler going *into* the USA it ain't funny. If it was the case that more data would lead to less ivnasive search, I would not have to go thru one , as do my fellow traveller, travelling *into* the USA.
http://iwantsomeproof.com/extimg/siv_annual_polar_graph.png
Cliamte change is the overall trend : starting from the 1980 to today each decade there has been a lower volume and extent than the previous decade. YOU are looking at the orange line in the center and the red line , and saying "woooot 1 year with more ice see global warming don#t exists thx k bye".
Our old show have become non distinguishable from noise within a few to a few hundred AU. Some narrowband concentrated general signal might have gotten within a light year. maybe. The only signal we know for sure would be audible afetr 1 light year, were the few sent from arecibo S band, and a few others. In the whole history of mankind , we are talking about 1 hour or 2 worth of transmission time (and they were narrow band, high power radio signals intentionally sent for a distant galaxy if i remember correctly... M31 ?). Your basic TV ? By pluto it is non distinguishable to background noise.
Basically, unless your hypothetical aliens were already deep within the center of our solar system, they would not hear our TV shows.
If getting old was equivalent to getting experienced , then i would agree with you. The truth is, most folk which were older than me when I was a youngling (2 to 3 time my age), did not knew shit, they did not learn from all their year, they were just ensconced in their way. Some people are just getting those opportunity to learn and experience go past them and slide away from them. Many "older" (the majority IMNSHO) folk are not wise, they are just riding the "older folk are wiser" old meme. The few which really DID have experience to give, I learned from. Now I can say without arrogance, many of my older colleague and the newer colleague generation sees me as a problem solver/helper, and i am not even busting my ass.
Older does not mean more experienced.
Get that meme out of your system. Most older folk are just plain old. Not wise. That is not something you acquire automagically with age. Wisdom is something you already had when youw ere young, and willing to cultivate.
There is some from HPI too (1mREM.h-1 to 100 REM.h-1 so in Sievert : from 10 uSv.h-1 up to 1000 mSv.h-1) would still have hit the end scale. Most of the offering I know of, they separate low radiation measurement to high one with different detector.
It sounds like the one they got was meant for low radiation measurement, like in a hospital radiology departement. A Max of 100mSV.h-1 is not exactely the low scale I would expect for people surveying a nuclear incident this scale, and contaminated water radiation level.
Look that horse bolted at Halajaba when the itnernational community did JACK SHIT, because that country was one of their friend, and it gassed 3000 to 5000 people. Not even counting the thousand of death due to complication and poor health in the year afterward.
Tooks 22 years to even get a trial and declare it a crime against humanity, and after 88 the US continued to support Sadam for a while. It is only after kuwait that the US turned on Saddam.
The Message "we can fuck around with chemical weapon" has been given in 1988 by the lack of utter reaction to it.
I see advertisement for this "opportunity" every few years or so.
Have they even demonstrated that they can freeze the brain without the usual ice build up ?
"By that logic it has never aired in the US either. It was only shown on paid cable."
Yes indeed it was not released on public TV int he US. So even the US cannot count as a global release. Law and order *is* a global public release because it is on public TV. Look you cannot pretend soemthing is released globally and EXPECT bit torrent to go down, when in reality it is only available to a few private channel.
"We believe in the results of science because, ultimately, we trust some combination of our senses and our brain based experience we call "thinking". We believe this combination gives us knowledge of things which are not our brains, but have an independent reality. I believe this. But this knowledge comes to us through consciousness and not through some other avenue."
We do not believe in science because of our science, we trust science DESPITE our sense, because we get repeatable results. The rest of your post is the sme non sense as in "you can't trust your sense it is all in the brain blahblahblah" you might as well do the argument of the brain in jar.
The truth is consciousness is probably not anything "real" it is just the emerging process from all part of our brain neuron communicating to each other. Destroy the neuron, you destroy or change personality in various way.
As for your talk about universe consciousness... Pffft. You can give drug to somebody, and they may dream of universal consciousness, gods, or pink elephant with carnivore teeth, but that aren't making any of thios real. Show me evidence for universal "cosnciousness" or such and I will start looking at it. Until then it is all bad trip on acid.
" We still have, essentially, no understanding of what consciousness is, where it come from, or where it goes during these sorts of episodes."
Consciousness is the emerging process of all brain process. It comes from the brain. If the brain do not work, it simply stops. Since it is an emerging process, once all underlying process of the brain starts again , it emerge again. We may not in *detail* explain how it works, but unless you want to use the nirvana fallacy, and require a perfect explanation, that explanation is enough for what I have quoted from you.
You were "clinicaly" dead , aka you heart jsut stopped which is a pretty much stupid way to define death which ark back to a time when your heart stopped it was game over. Nowadays you use the definition of brain dead for dead (which is why it is said terry chavio long died before they cut off her support : her brain was quasi non existent). You definitively were not dead, you jsut had a cardiac arrest.
Frankky nowadays with the all the knowledge we have we should get ride of the stupid nonsensical clinical death definition and replace it with cardiac arrest, you are not "ressucited" when your heart starts again, and keep the brain death one.
look, I checked it up and in germany it is on AXN which is a cable TV channel, and not even in the basic package, for entertain cable TV it is on the big TV *upgrade* package. So please next time you pretend it is a global release, check that it is not or pay TV. On public TV it is a global release. On cable TV ? not so much.
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I have an enormous library of book, worth many 10.000$ if bought new. I long stopped counting the book themselves, but rather count as linear meter of book shelves. If all that was in eBook I would have more place yes, but my narcissic self would not be able to show a nice private library to my guest. I could not lend of those as eBook. When I die, my ebook collection would die with me. My book on the other hand can be resold, gifted, lent, burned for heat, shown in a proud voluminous number of shelves or whatever.
" Congress does not have the authority to violate the Constitution. " no but they can get away with it, if they put you in prison for treason or violating some security letter, and your appeal (made harder by the inability of fully communicate all evidence due to security reason) will take years, maybe a decade or two. Your life will be ruined and don't expect any meaningful compensation. It takes somebody insanely courageous to try to go for that. And your governement (and probably mine) can so get away with trampling and pissing on our respective constitution.
Consent was not required then, and now , the California supreme court decided that for medical waste *no* consent was required. In fact the cell could be harvested today without their consent. Where it begins to be an ethical problem is when the genome for the cell are published, genome they share and could negatively impact them if something special is found in it.
But the bigger asshole were the journalist/press which within years revealed the true name of the family. At least the scientist had the forsight to give it a random name starting with He and La.
I mean, there was nothing in the key which looked that difficult to duplicate, contrary to those key as you showed. Or even the round key , which have pins on all direction , not only 2 axis but on 8 axis or more (I dunno if you know what type I mean, when you look along the axis they look like a star with 8 ray and along the axis the pins at at random position and random angle). I never found a locksmith which had the way to duplicate those despite wanting a second set of key. (maybe I should have asked a crook;)).
When yous ay some guy is "joe Smith" and the first hit is a general in the army... That means at least ONE person is named that way, and therefore ANOTHER can be. So your assumption that the name means nothing is falsified.
If you hire only youngling, and people above 40 find getting a job in development difficult, then you are condemned to have a development team which never learn from mistake, try to reinvent the wheel. Somebody mentionned it is because of the manager : no not really. I have not seen any development team where the manager dictated the architecture or how the code looks like. They might impose a choice between 2 designs doing the cheaper, but the reinventing the wheel is solely developer's fault.
It is also in the taste. I have tried pretty much everything from snail to frogs (cue to joke here folk) to cricket like (rosted on BBQ, or with honey) various species of big spider (marine and terrestrial) eggs from spider, sea arthropodes and I pass over many other options. The plain fact is that while I don't care for teh appearance (except spider) the taste were bland to not good at all for most of those. There were a few exceptions (the cricket in honey, but I would wagger the honey was the part I liked....). I don't think fighting any perceived disgust will change I disliked that stuff. Just like I am still disliking bruxel sprout, and quasi all alcohol except apple cider (at 2%).
You know that people eat it for the protein does not mean it taste good. And so far since tehre does not seem to be a food shortage here around, I would like to spend the few years I have left eating good stuff.
"Why Americans aren't using their 2nd amendment rights already to get rid of all these corrupt fucks is beyond me."
Because for the majority of them, nothing is wrong. For the majority of them, as long as they got their food, their work, their entertainment, all is fine. The giov reassure them, "we willg et the traitor!". Snowden is the one disturbing them , he is shaking the status quo, making them see stuff they don't want to see. So they when psyop poo-poo snowden for some minor stuff, "his girlfriend is strange and some sort of stripper" then they forget the main point and dismiss snowden. Or Manning. or anybody disturbing them in their comfortable status quo. Mind you the US is not the only one in that situation. But it is the most flagrant in the US, after they were caught torturing, killing their own citizen, spying on the whole world, lying, lying and lying even more.
The only way the american will revolt, is if the middle and lower class get so much economic pressure that normal life get for them unviable. Then they will revolt. And their politics overlord might be stupid enough to let plutocrate of all ilk really destroy the middle and lower class enough that this will happen. But it will take at least a few more catastrophe like what happenned with the banks or 2 more decades of stagnation for the middle / low class.
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If wealth was really spread over , you could imagine a society where all is automated and people could have more free time. For example people work only 10-20 hours, for the same salary and power of buying. But this does not happen. people laid off by automation see their jobs class disappear like water on sand and most probably , while a few can retrain to something better, most can only find a lower paying job. And then it is the drop to the bottom rung. If you have 45% of what looks to be middle and low class job replaced by autmation, to WHOM are you getting to sell those ? BY that point that probably means 50% of the population will leave day to day without much wealth.
It is not a question of luddism, it is a question of greed. All those free hour liberated are not used to make the rest of the work force work less, and thus making palce for the liebrated job. They are used to make those job utterly 100% disappear. At some point society will break down and people will simply run amok killing anybody with a bit of wealth and pillaging around, because they will have absolutely nothing to lose.
CAPS and CAPS 2 , forced the airline to deliver so many data on traveler going *into* the USA it ain't funny. If it was the case that more data would lead to less ivnasive search, I would not have to go thru one , as do my fellow traveller, travelling *into* the USA.
http://iwantsomeproof.com/extimg/siv_annual_polar_graph.png Cliamte change is the overall trend : starting from the 1980 to today each decade there has been a lower volume and extent than the previous decade. YOU are looking at the orange line in the center and the red line , and saying "woooot 1 year with more ice see global warming don#t exists thx k bye".
You sir are ignorant.
"Yeah, because real companies can release a malware-infested piece of software and suffer no consequences. Give me a break."
Sony rootkit. You are wrong.
You might have told this in jest but...
Our old show have become non distinguishable from noise within a few to a few hundred AU. Some narrowband concentrated general signal might have gotten within a light year. maybe. The only signal we know for sure would be audible afetr 1 light year, were the few sent from arecibo S band, and a few others. In the whole history of mankind , we are talking about 1 hour or 2 worth of transmission time (and they were narrow band, high power radio signals intentionally sent for a distant galaxy if i remember correctly... M31 ?). Your basic TV ? By pluto it is non distinguishable to background noise.
Basically, unless your hypothetical aliens were already deep within the center of our solar system, they would not hear our TV shows.
If getting old was equivalent to getting experienced , then i would agree with you. The truth is, most folk which were older than me when I was a youngling (2 to 3 time my age), did not knew shit, they did not learn from all their year, they were just ensconced in their way. Some people are just getting those opportunity to learn and experience go past them and slide away from them. Many "older" (the majority IMNSHO) folk are not wise, they are just riding the "older folk are wiser" old meme. The few which really DID have experience to give, I learned from. Now I can say without arrogance, many of my older colleague and the newer colleague generation sees me as a problem solver/helper, and i am not even busting my ass.
Older does not mean more experienced.
Get that meme out of your system. Most older folk are just plain old. Not wise. That is not something you acquire automagically with age. Wisdom is something you already had when youw ere young, and willing to cultivate.
There is some from HPI too (1mREM.h-1 to 100 REM .h-1 so in Sievert : from 10 uSv.h-1 up to 1000 mSv.h-1) would still have hit the end scale. Most of the offering I know of, they separate low radiation measurement to high one with different detector.
It sounds like the one they got was meant for low radiation measurement, like in a hospital radiology departement. A Max of 100mSV.h-1 is not exactely the low scale I would expect for people surveying a nuclear incident this scale, and contaminated water radiation level.
Look that horse bolted at Halajaba when the itnernational community did JACK SHIT, because that country was one of their friend, and it gassed 3000 to 5000 people. Not even counting the thousand of death due to complication and poor health in the year afterward.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack
Tooks 22 years to even get a trial and declare it a crime against humanity, and after 88 the US continued to support Sadam for a while. It is only after kuwait that the US turned on Saddam.
The Message "we can fuck around with chemical weapon" has been given in 1988 by the lack of utter reaction to it.
I see advertisement for this "opportunity" every few years or so. Have they even demonstrated that they can freeze the brain without the usual ice build up ?
More important I would be as sorry as needed to get out earlier. Like, before I am 90.
"By that logic it has never aired in the US either. It was only shown on paid cable."
Yes indeed it was not released on public TV int he US. So even the US cannot count as a global release. Law and order *is* a global public release because it is on public TV. Look you cannot pretend soemthing is released globally and EXPECT bit torrent to go down, when in reality it is only available to a few private channel.
"We believe in the results of science because, ultimately, we trust some combination of our senses and our brain based experience we call "thinking". We believe this combination gives us knowledge of things which are not our brains, but have an independent reality. I believe this. But this knowledge comes to us through consciousness and not through some other avenue."
... Pffft. You can give drug to somebody, and they may dream of universal consciousness, gods, or pink elephant with carnivore teeth, but that aren't making any of thios real. Show me evidence for universal "cosnciousness" or such and I will start looking at it. Until then it is all bad trip on acid.
We do not believe in science because of our science, we trust science DESPITE our sense, because we get repeatable results. The rest of your post is the sme non sense as in "you can't trust your sense it is all in the brain blahblahblah" you might as well do the argument of the brain in jar.
The truth is consciousness is probably not anything "real" it is just the emerging process from all part of our brain neuron communicating to each other. Destroy the neuron, you destroy or change personality in various way.
As for your talk about universe consciousness
" We still have, essentially, no understanding of what consciousness is, where it come from, or where it goes during these sorts of episodes."
Consciousness is the emerging process of all brain process. It comes from the brain. If the brain do not work, it simply stops. Since it is an emerging process, once all underlying process of the brain starts again , it emerge again. We may not in *detail* explain how it works, but unless you want to use the nirvana fallacy, and require a perfect explanation, that explanation is enough for what I have quoted from you.
You were "clinicaly" dead , aka you heart jsut stopped which is a pretty much stupid way to define death which ark back to a time when your heart stopped it was game over. Nowadays you use the definition of brain dead for dead (which is why it is said terry chavio long died before they cut off her support : her brain was quasi non existent). You definitively were not dead, you jsut had a cardiac arrest.
Frankky nowadays with the all the knowledge we have we should get ride of the stupid nonsensical clinical death definition and replace it with cardiac arrest, you are not "ressucited" when your heart starts again, and keep the brain death one.
I don't count pay TV channel (not even the default cable TV) as being global either personally.
look, I checked it up and in germany it is on AXN which is a cable TV channel, and not even in the basic package, for entertain cable TV it is on the big TV *upgrade* package. So please next time you pretend it is a global release, check that it is not or pay TV. On public TV it is a global release. On cable TV ? not so much.
I have an enormous library of book, worth many 10.000$ if bought new. I long stopped counting the book themselves, but rather count as linear meter of book shelves. If all that was in eBook I would have more place yes, but my narcissic self would not be able to show a nice private library to my guest. I could not lend of those as eBook. When I die, my ebook collection would die with me. My book on the other hand can be resold, gifted, lent, burned for heat, shown in a proud voluminous number of shelves or whatever.
" Congress does not have the authority to violate the Constitution. " no but they can get away with it, if they put you in prison for treason or violating some security letter, and your appeal (made harder by the inability of fully communicate all evidence due to security reason) will take years, maybe a decade or two. Your life will be ruined and don't expect any meaningful compensation. It takes somebody insanely courageous to try to go for that. And your governement (and probably mine) can so get away with trampling and pissing on our respective constitution.
maybe it would make up for great story ? Sory , but i don't see why the doctor who could not be a lesbian tranny black Muslim in a wheelchair.
Consent was not required then, and now , the California supreme court decided that for medical waste *no* consent was required. In fact the cell could be harvested today without their consent. Where it begins to be an ethical problem is when the genome for the cell are published, genome they share and could negatively impact them if something special is found in it.
But the bigger asshole were the journalist/press which within years revealed the true name of the family. At least the scientist had the forsight to give it a random name starting with He and La.
I mean, there was nothing in the key which looked that difficult to duplicate, contrary to those key as you showed. Or even the round key , which have pins on all direction , not only 2 axis but on 8 axis or more (I dunno if you know what type I mean, when you look along the axis they look like a star with 8 ray and along the axis the pins at at random position and random angle). I never found a locksmith which had the way to duplicate those despite wanting a second set of key. (maybe I should have asked a crook ;)).
Some people have that name :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Ivanovich_Petrov.
When yous ay some guy is "joe Smith" and the first hit is a general in the army... That means at least ONE person is named that way, and therefore ANOTHER can be. So your assumption that the name means nothing is falsified.
If you hire only youngling, and people above 40 find getting a job in development difficult, then you are condemned to have a development team which never learn from mistake, try to reinvent the wheel. Somebody mentionned it is because of the manager : no not really. I have not seen any development team where the manager dictated the architecture or how the code looks like. They might impose a choice between 2 designs doing the cheaper, but the reinventing the wheel is solely developer's fault.
It is also in the taste. I have tried pretty much everything from snail to frogs (cue to joke here folk) to cricket like (rosted on BBQ, or with honey) various species of big spider (marine and terrestrial) eggs from spider, sea arthropodes and I pass over many other options. The plain fact is that while I don't care for teh appearance (except spider) the taste were bland to not good at all for most of those. There were a few exceptions (the cricket in honey, but I would wagger the honey was the part I liked....). I don't think fighting any perceived disgust will change I disliked that stuff. Just like I am still disliking bruxel sprout, and quasi all alcohol except apple cider (at 2%).
You know that people eat it for the protein does not mean it taste good. And so far since tehre does not seem to be a food shortage here around, I would like to spend the few years I have left eating good stuff.
"Why Americans aren't using their 2nd amendment rights already to get rid of all these corrupt fucks is beyond me."
Because for the majority of them, nothing is wrong. For the majority of them, as long as they got their food, their work, their entertainment, all is fine. The giov reassure them, "we willg et the traitor!". Snowden is the one disturbing them , he is shaking the status quo, making them see stuff they don't want to see. So they when psyop poo-poo snowden for some minor stuff, "his girlfriend is strange and some sort of stripper" then they forget the main point and dismiss snowden. Or Manning. or anybody disturbing them in their comfortable status quo. Mind you the US is not the only one in that situation. But it is the most flagrant in the US, after they were caught torturing, killing their own citizen, spying on the whole world, lying, lying and lying even more.
The only way the american will revolt, is if the middle and lower class get so much economic pressure that normal life get for them unviable. Then they will revolt. And their politics overlord might be stupid enough to let plutocrate of all ilk really destroy the middle and lower class enough that this will happen. But it will take at least a few more catastrophe like what happenned with the banks or 2 more decades of stagnation for the middle / low class.