Nope, KLOL, I was talking about the "Real Man Show", previously the "Stevens and Pruit" show before they fired Mark Stevens. Now it's "Ronson and Johnson", they aren't exactly PC, but they tiptoe around the edges of it.
They can't count how many radios are tuned in, you're absolutely right. The boycott would work by making them look less appealing to advertisers.
Having a bumper sticker/T-Shirt with the name of your favorite radio station is one way to make the station look valuable. If people who are prospective advertisers to a radio station happen accross people displaying a radion stations logo during their daily routine it shows that station as a good place to spend their advertising dollars because the person who's wearing that shirt and many more will hear their ad.
Calling in to be the 13th or whatever caller. If you help in making every line to the radio station busy in record time it proves you were listening to the radio. Giving away $1,000 is a good way to get people to listen for the word go, and right before the word go is given is an excelent time to play an ad.
Music is just a good way to get people to stick around long enough to listen to the ads and controlling what the target audiance is. The rest is to make money.
The fact they're using a spyware installing somewhat closed network KaZaa instead of a wide open can share with anybody servent to actual Gnutella lowers the value of that statement. Same with Napster, Napster, Audiogalaxy and the other dead closed networks prove why openness is very important when being trading files.
but they have bought every radio station station in the Houston area that didn't suck, and even a few that did. So I drive cross country, I find another radio station. I listen to it, sounds kinda cool, then you hear "Thank you for listend to KXYZ, the ONLY station that doesn't suck, a Clear Channel Communications station." So they admit that all their other stations suck?
I wanted to boycott them for taking off my morning show, and using the trained monkeys that borderline politicaly correct (the previous guys would never be mistaken for anywhere near politicaly correct) from New Orleans to broadcast to the entire Gulf Coast. Sounds like cost savings to me, but it really ruined the mornings for me.
So I swallowed my pride and listened anyways. Before Clear Channel bought everything I stopped listening to one of our local stations because I couldn't stand hearing "Did somebody say McDonalds" 13 times in a 30 second period. Now nearly half the commercials ClearChannel plays assume I can't get my dick up and I need to hear the phone number of the fixer 12 times because I can't dial a damned phone. I assure you neaither is a concern in my case. The quality of radio sure took a dive when they came in.
I've used it myself. Not using Windows at home and prefering GNU programs eventually steared me away but it had its benefits. I liked how easily I could create my own context menus and custom commands when I was an Oper/admin at an ISP. Our server supported several non-standard commands that only really affected the Java clients like "furl" (force url) which would allow me to force the FAQs, rules, or support pages to come up on their machines. I of course made a "right click>send to hampsterdance" menu for annoying people.
I would say better products actually pre-exsisted all the examples. The difference it marketing, cost, and positioning. Mac OS and maybe the Amiga I would say were better than Windows and pre-dated it for the most part (yes I know how far back Win 1.1 went, but I mean when people actually cared it exsisted). Netscape was definately better than IE up until at least 4, I would argue 5. As for email, Eudoras not newcomer. People are lazy and/or uneducated for the most part. They had no desire to expand beyond what their computers came with or didn't know how. The way Windows had it integrated it certainly looked(s) like that was the proper/only way to do it. Bribing/strong arming the ISPs didn't hurt eaither.
to somehow make a "food pill" with amino acids? Would definately help in dealing with the fat America problem. I know there are non-Amino acid products in the food we eat that we need, but there could be some definate advantages in not having/lessened need to eat. Think "feeding the hungry for a week with a single can of super cola".
What they do to the windowmanagers perhaps? I mean at least one really high up official left the company over it. They want both gnome and KDE to look exactly the same, molded by Red Hat.
United Linux is forming to try and make a few standards so things will interoperate better and software will remain easier to compile/create for multiple distros across the board. They aren't participating.
Overall wierdness. I don't think to many distros are immune to some wierdness. Right now I'm using SuSE, I don't like some of the stuff they put into KDE so I got rid of it. I actually don't even use the KDE provided by SuSE (though it's not to bad) I download and install my own.
As stated by others, RedHat trys to force things into wierd places with their own settings. I guess it's okay if you like that sort of thing. Good beginner Linux, I started on it, but I would suggest moving on afterwards.
RedHat just smears it wrong. Yes, you can fix a RedHat install, it just takes a lot more work. You pretty much have to uninstall everything, download new copies and install it again, but right this time.
Yes, Linux has lots of bloat. More than Windows when you get down to it. The most important thing you overlooked, most of that bloat is optional in Linux unlike Windows. I've installed SuSE from a DVD, bloat is pleantiful, and removing it isn't always trivial, but it is doable, and you can opitonally start with a bare install. Try removing IE from XP. Optional bloat isn't so bad, and distro makers are moving in the right direction, as time progresses distros get better. Except more maybe RedHat which seems to be getting worse.
good idea. Kinda like using the KDE admin tools. I found KDE to be extreamly helpfull configuring simple things on my system. I know how to SU and KDESU, but the KDE control center has an "admin mode" button at the bottom. I'm afraid this would still elude users.
Debian or Slackware was actually my next planned step for that reason, I've heard good things in those reguards. Back to the broadband problem, I don't even get decent 26.4 with our crummy phone lines, can't get DSL for that reason, and cable cost x2 what the competitve DSL option does. I had the DSL option of 5 static IPs before moving. Oh well, after paying off a few debts I'll have it again. Houses aren't cheap to move into, and it's not just the house.
Not to bad. I never got hooked on that notebook anyways. Now I don't have to share my old one anymore, she's much more knowledgeable than my of my family and her family, except for her mom which happens to be in upper management at a globably known computer company.
it was an ISP. The CEO wasn't a computer genious but he could dial a modem via hyper term, and fix quite a few of his own problems which is more than I could say about a lot of the "techs" we had on the support floor. Everyone in a management position in that company had various levels of technical knowledge except for the sales people. I think being a sales person had being non-tech as a prerequisit sometimes....
1. locate obscure libraries everytime I want to install something
2. compile obscure libraries that require me to download more obscure libraries everytime I want to install something
3. Install more Gnome components every time I want to install an application that doesn't appear to be a Gnome app for use on my KDE system
4. Compile every program I want to use because binaries aren't available for my distro, but they are for Red Hat, oh did we mention you're going to have to download and install some obscure libraries for that?
Ahhh!!! I don't have broadband at home anymore since moving, and my notebook doesn't have the hardware I need to do what I want, so my software update cycle goes something like
1. decide what I need 2. "borrow" company bandwidth to download it to my notebook 3. Copy software from my notebook to my home machine 4. Find out I need obscure libraries 5. Go back to work, get obscure libraries, source only, binaries not available 6. Take libraries home, not able to compile because they require more obscure libraries 7. Go back to work, get more obscure libraries, different distro. Install anyways 8. Move files from other distro to proper place in my system 9. Fail to compile, need newer/older version of obscure library.
Grrrrr. I like Linux, but Windows has its temptations.
She has a "I just want to be able to turn it on and have it booted" mindset. She's had slow computers forever, would turn the computer on, grab a drink, whatever and comeback to a machine on the desktop. Her mother got us a nice 1.8 GHz notebook for Christmas that I've decided not to even bother using because of that mindset. Any little change I make has her screaming at me because I changed her working environment, but she wont let us use that multiple user setup because it required intervention before hitting the desktop. So I haven't installed Linux, thought I could do that within her requirements because I could set Grub to default to Windows. The fact the thing boots in about 25 seconds doesn't seem to matter. I'll just stick my old 450 MHz Celeron Notebook with SuSE 8.1 Pro installed exclusively until I can administer clue to user. Clue to user is a difficult thing to administer to a user you share a bed with.
Look again. You can get the machines without Linows, thats probably the case with the non-Lindows machines, but why would you want have to figure out how to get Lindows off of a machine to put Windows on? I know it can be difficult for newbies to remove Linux type file systems with a Win98 CD. I've walked more than one semi-experienced tech through having to do it myself.
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Nope, KLOL, I was talking about the "Real Man Show", previously the "Stevens and Pruit" show before they fired Mark Stevens. Now it's "Ronson and Johnson", they aren't exactly PC, but they tiptoe around the edges of it.
They can't count how many radios are tuned in, you're absolutely right. The boycott would work by making them look less appealing to advertisers.
Having a bumper sticker/T-Shirt with the name of your favorite radio station is one way to make the station look valuable. If people who are prospective advertisers to a radio station happen accross people displaying a radion stations logo during their daily routine it shows that station as a good place to spend their advertising dollars because the person who's wearing that shirt and many more will hear their ad.
Calling in to be the 13th or whatever caller. If you help in making every line to the radio station busy in record time it proves you were listening to the radio. Giving away $1,000 is a good way to get people to listen for the word go, and right before the word go is given is an excelent time to play an ad.
Music is just a good way to get people to stick around long enough to listen to the ads and controlling what the target audiance is. The rest is to make money.
The fact they're using a spyware installing somewhat closed network KaZaa instead of a wide open can share with anybody servent to actual Gnutella lowers the value of that statement. Same with Napster, Napster, Audiogalaxy and the other dead closed networks prove why openness is very important when being trading files.
but they have bought every radio station station in the Houston area that didn't suck, and even a few that did. So I drive cross country, I find another radio station. I listen to it, sounds kinda cool, then you hear "Thank you for listend to KXYZ, the ONLY station that doesn't suck, a Clear Channel Communications station." So they admit that all their other stations suck?
I wanted to boycott them for taking off my morning show, and using the trained monkeys that borderline politicaly correct (the previous guys would never be mistaken for anywhere near politicaly correct) from New Orleans to broadcast to the entire Gulf Coast. Sounds like cost savings to me, but it really ruined the mornings for me.
So I swallowed my pride and listened anyways. Before Clear Channel bought everything I stopped listening to one of our local stations because I couldn't stand hearing "Did somebody say McDonalds" 13 times in a 30 second period. Now nearly half the commercials ClearChannel plays assume I can't get my dick up and I need to hear the phone number of the fixer 12 times because I can't dial a damned phone. I assure you neaither is a concern in my case. The quality of radio sure took a dive when they came in.
I've used it myself. Not using Windows at home and prefering GNU programs eventually steared me away but it had its benefits. I liked how easily I could create my own context menus and custom commands when I was an Oper/admin at an ISP. Our server supported several non-standard commands that only really affected the Java clients like "furl" (force url) which would allow me to force the FAQs, rules, or support pages to come up on their machines. I of course made a "right click>send to hampsterdance" menu for annoying people.
I would say better products actually pre-exsisted all the examples. The difference it marketing, cost, and positioning. Mac OS and maybe the Amiga I would say were better than Windows and pre-dated it for the most part (yes I know how far back Win 1.1 went, but I mean when people actually cared it exsisted). Netscape was definately better than IE up until at least 4, I would argue 5. As for email, Eudoras not newcomer. People are lazy and/or uneducated for the most part. They had no desire to expand beyond what their computers came with or didn't know how. The way Windows had it integrated it certainly looked(s) like that was the proper/only way to do it. Bribing/strong arming the ISPs didn't hurt eaither.
They'll do that, just a soon as we convince them to stop using IE, Outlook, and/or Windows because supperior products exsist.
I can just see it now, messages telling people to stop pushing their viri.
to somehow make a "food pill" with amino acids? Would definately help in dealing with the fat America problem. I know there are non-Amino acid products in the food we eat that we need, but there could be some definate advantages in not having/lessened need to eat. Think "feeding the hungry for a week with a single can of super cola".
That would be about the right amount of skin, yep.
How about leftovers at a fat person reduction surgery?
Audio pop-ups. Gives a whole new humor to that .wav file that circulated via the forward-everything crowd a couple of years back.
Elaboration = Bluecurve
What they do to the windowmanagers perhaps? I mean at least one really high up official left the company over it. They want both gnome and KDE to look exactly the same, molded by Red Hat.
United Linux is forming to try and make a few standards so things will interoperate better and software will remain easier to compile/create for multiple distros across the board. They aren't participating.
Overall wierdness. I don't think to many distros are immune to some wierdness. Right now I'm using SuSE, I don't like some of the stuff they put into KDE so I got rid of it. I actually don't even use the KDE provided by SuSE (though it's not to bad) I download and install my own.
As stated by others, RedHat trys to force things into wierd places with their own settings. I guess it's okay if you like that sort of thing. Good beginner Linux, I started on it, but I would suggest moving on afterwards.
RedHat just smears it wrong. Yes, you can fix a RedHat install, it just takes a lot more work. You pretty much have to uninstall everything, download new copies and install it again, but right this time.
I realize that, I just had to vent some philisophical feelings. Now, lets go break stuff!
Yes, Linux has lots of bloat. More than Windows when you get down to it. The most important thing you overlooked, most of that bloat is optional in Linux unlike Windows. I've installed SuSE from a DVD, bloat is pleantiful, and removing it isn't always trivial, but it is doable, and you can opitonally start with a bare install. Try removing IE from XP. Optional bloat isn't so bad, and distro makers are moving in the right direction, as time progresses distros get better. Except more maybe RedHat which seems to be getting worse.
Way to stick to the spirit of open source that you're reporting on!
good idea. Kinda like using the KDE admin tools. I found KDE to be extreamly helpfull configuring simple things on my system. I know how to SU and KDESU, but the KDE control center has an "admin mode" button at the bottom. I'm afraid this would still elude users.
Debian or Slackware was actually my next planned step for that reason, I've heard good things in those reguards. Back to the broadband problem, I don't even get decent 26.4 with our crummy phone lines, can't get DSL for that reason, and cable cost x2 what the competitve DSL option does. I had the DSL option of 5 static IPs before moving. Oh well, after paying off a few debts I'll have it again. Houses aren't cheap to move into, and it's not just the house.
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I have a T-shirt with your signature file on it, only it doesn't credit Homer.
Not to bad. I never got hooked on that notebook anyways. Now I don't have to share my old one anymore, she's much more knowledgeable than my of my family and her family, except for her mom which happens to be in upper management at a globably known computer company.
it was an ISP. The CEO wasn't a computer genious but he could dial a modem via hyper term, and fix quite a few of his own problems which is more than I could say about a lot of the "techs" we had on the support floor. Everyone in a management position in that company had various levels of technical knowledge except for the sales people. I think being a sales person had being non-tech as a prerequisit sometimes....
I would pay $99 a year not to have to
1. locate obscure libraries everytime I want to install something
2. compile obscure libraries that require me to download more obscure libraries everytime I want to install something
3. Install more Gnome components every time I want to install an application that doesn't appear to be a Gnome app for use on my KDE system
4. Compile every program I want to use because binaries aren't available for my distro, but they are for Red Hat, oh did we mention you're going to have to download and install some obscure libraries for that?
Ahhh!!! I don't have broadband at home anymore since moving, and my notebook doesn't have the hardware I need to do what I want, so my software update cycle goes something like
1. decide what I need
2. "borrow" company bandwidth to download it to my notebook
3. Copy software from my notebook to my home machine
4. Find out I need obscure libraries
5. Go back to work, get obscure libraries, source only, binaries not available
6. Take libraries home, not able to compile because they require more obscure libraries
7. Go back to work, get more obscure libraries, different distro. Install anyways
8. Move files from other distro to proper place in my system
9. Fail to compile, need newer/older version of obscure library.
Grrrrr. I like Linux, but Windows has its temptations.
She has a "I just want to be able to turn it on and have it booted" mindset. She's had slow computers forever, would turn the computer on, grab a drink, whatever and comeback to a machine on the desktop. Her mother got us a nice 1.8 GHz notebook for Christmas that I've decided not to even bother using because of that mindset. Any little change I make has her screaming at me because I changed her working environment, but she wont let us use that multiple user setup because it required intervention before hitting the desktop. So I haven't installed Linux, thought I could do that within her requirements because I could set Grub to default to Windows. The fact the thing boots in about 25 seconds doesn't seem to matter. I'll just stick my old 450 MHz Celeron Notebook with SuSE 8.1 Pro installed exclusively until I can administer clue to user. Clue to user is a difficult thing to administer to a user you share a bed with.
Look again. You can get the machines without Linows, thats probably the case with the non-Lindows machines, but why would you want have to figure out how to get Lindows off of a machine to put Windows on? I know it can be difficult for newbies to remove Linux type file systems with a Win98 CD. I've walked more than one semi-experienced tech through having to do it myself.