Chrony Capitalism coupled with inflation really has created a system where money comes out of the void, shoots to the top and by the very existence of that new money being created causes the money other people hold to decline in value.
Wall Street without a doubt orchestrated the creation of this system.
HOWEVER Wall Street people are the wrong ones to protest. Companies exist to make money by whatever means legal, and in some cases not legal. The bottom line is companies exist to make money. You invest in whatever company is most capable of doing that.
The problem lies in chronyism. A company that participates in chronyism isn't doing anything wrong, it's a means to an end in the companies goal of accumulating money. The corrupt government playing ball with chronies on the other hand IS doing something wrong.
Our government representatives are supposed to represent the people. When they begin to self-serve instead of serve the people they are doing something wrong.
By protesting Wall Street they're sending the message they don't want anyone to make money. If they were to "occupy the mall" instead and focus all of their energies and talent into figuring out the mechanics of every bribe, kick-back, vote trade, intimidation tactic, threat and dishonest move of every politician in Washington and create something akin to Wikipedia devoted specifically to those ends with as much evidence as possible we would be putting the real problem back in check. Unfortunately our three branch balance of power is out of balance, I blame the executive and legislative branches for pushing it out of balance and I blame the judicial branch for actively endorsing the shift in balance.
I don't get an actual feeling the OWSers are motived to fix things. I get a sense of "I'm fucking with you because I can" and I get the feeling they're pushing for a fascist communist/socialist shift. As with every large movement it's obviously not an across the board thing, but I do feel that it's the general consensus, and I'm also starting to suspect outside driving forces, in much the same way the Egyptian government had paid pro-government protesters to clash with the grass-roots protesters some time back. With the OWS crowd they wouldn't need more than a couple of key charismatic people placed in each camp.
In short theres a real problem that needs fixing, but I feel the motive of the protesters is to insert an agenda instead of actually fixing the problem.
If all you offer is one model at a time (Apple, no capacity differences don't truly count as a different model - radio differences may) it's really easy to make a tried and true hardened product. That being said Apple has been screwing up it's one product last couple of generations, granted not in a way that can't be handled.
Blackberry OS products, though more diverse than Apple's product line, are still very narrow in offerings.
Anyone who can slap together a few components can make an Android phone.
Android is truly a buyers market. It is up the the buyer to do all the research required to buy an Android device. Sticking with a few vendors is usually a safe way to do it. Sure you can probably find a really cheap phone from China from a manufacturer you've never heard of that looks like an iPhone, runs Android, and advertises 1,000 features, but you know deep down in your heart you probably should go with something by HTC instead. The difference between the compared groups is that Android, being free, allows the last guy to exist. In a true unencumbered market you're always going to have your sleeze bag bottom of the barrel stuff, then you're going to have your sexy Cadillac stuff. My EVO is over a year old and I don't see myself giving it up for a different model for at least six months, probably more, however if I were to have bought the budget "free" phone from any carrier at the same time, Android or not, there's a pretty good chance I would be growing tired of it by now, if it still worked at all.
This is no different than the way I always buy Wrangler Carpenter pants for work even though I could just as easily go to a discount store and buy random generic brands. I've done the latter, and sometimes I've gotten really good pants that last, and sometimes I got trash. Apple only sells the "Wrangler" product and wont allow anyone else to produce the equivalent. Blackberry only allows the Wrangler and a couple of others like Levi and Carhart. Android says "Make em all!".
These findings don't detract from Android. In my book it actually uplifts Android. What if all I wanted was a cheap but descent phone, not for making phone calls but for my kid to play Angry Birds on and listen to her Chipmunk albums? Chances are she's going to drop anything I get her in the toilet eventually so quality isn't the highest priority. I can get a bargain basement Android phone that doesn't break the bank. With Apple I have to mortgage her bicycle and LPS collection to buy an iPhone and lets face it, Blackberry isn't the best choice for Angry Birds. (Truth is I gave my kid my old iPhone 3G, but I seriously considered getting her an Android phone from Cowboom.com instead)
Articles like this that intentionally overlook the obvious are mostly FUD.
Hmm, I have reason to believe you're one of the assholes who goes around moding down every comment you can find that's even slightly against Apple. I see it by the way you're defending them even when they are obviously being assholes, as in RIAA suing Girl Scouts level of asshole and your friend/enemy structure.
Good points. The PS3 if I'm not mistaken can use PS2 controls with USB adapters, this could be the work-around they're looking for.
The only modern home system I have is a Wii, and I could imagine it would be useless without the Wii-Remotes, even if you do try to use GameCube control compatible games.
Even without Ethernet jacks would there actually be anything to connect to WiFi with? I'm pretty sure you could permanently disable WiFi without killing the system, mostly by attacking it from the antenna angle, maybe even the radio (I really don't know these things on the board level).
Do any of you happen to know if KAudio Creator still works in Trinity? I've yet to find a CD ripper that actually works anywhere near as well as KAudio Creator for ripping tons of disk at a time, I open an instance for each drive and it works beautifully. All the rest of the rippers I've used are buggy as hell or more complicated than I want to deal with for the size of collection I have to rip (what's with K3B skipping the first track? It's been a known bug for a long time). I might throw Trinity on the system just for that if it's still around.
I'm going to keep a chain of these going to prove my theory, every time I get modded down for saying things critical of Apple. Yes there is a conspiracy theory - Apple fan boys working together. I actually have more than this to prove it, but I haven't dug them up yet.
Yes but it will produce Apple electricity, which will only work with Apple products (such as the "licensed only" chargers for the iPhone). Sure it's possible to adapt the electricity to work with non-Apple products, but then they'll sue you for it.
Oh look, I got modded down nearly a week later for calling them out in another thread and linking to this one. The more they mod me down the more they prove my point.
In the BMW it could be a real physical toggle somewhere, but an OS setting would work as well. In Apple's case they need to relax a little, pull the stick out, and let the people toggle which voice they want, even MS allows that on their voice related functions.
Are you telling me universities would stop playing nice with one another without federal grants?
Hope you don't mind me using that as a mark against universities. Has anyone every given serious thought to attempting to raise funds outside of the tax system?
Certainly you can find a way to raise some money once our national debt is paid down a bit and government corruption is under control to point money is flowing freely through the economy again.
Right now I'm not sure how happy I am with the way research is going anyways. My tax dollars pay for your research which goes into very expensive peer reviewed journals, gets locked up in patents and doesn't necessarily give it's results back to the people who funded it. Gene patents anyone?
That's what the bottom university mention was about. Who have been our biggest most visible scientific minds? Albert Einstein? Worked for a university. Stephen Hawking? Works for a university. So Carl Sagan did a lot of his work for NASA, if I had my way NASA would simply become a military branch, and probably get more funding that way. Even if he worked for a private space agency and still wrote his books he would have made a good living.
I don't see where your argument has any real foundation.
Before these modern thinkers who supported the past ones? I know, you don't want me to bring up the fact that churches provided much of the support for Michelangelo and Leonardo Da Vinci.
It is nearly impossible to get people to see the right answer because they've accepted the wrong one for so damned long.
Our current system was in answer to an old form of corruption. The old form of corruption was if a competitor sprung up the bigger guy would literally set fire to the business of the new guy during the night and would make sure local authorities were paid off to prevent backlash. Old forms of monopolies pretty much grew up and maintained power in this manner.
Just when this form of corruption was starting to get under control the Great Depression happened and FDR leveraged it to gain power by trying to create an all encompassing government monopoly by implementing the NRA, the National Recovery Act which in a sense socialized every business that was on board and had a habit of leaving businesses owners that weren't on board with broken legs. The NRA itself was busted up and it's mascot, the blue eagle, was retired. However the way to long of a presidency that FDR had caused an entire generation to grow up thinking his socialist policies were the right way to go.
We need to go back to the old way of doing things, where people completed on an open and free market, only we need to make sure the bribe the local authorities issue is handled and that people/corporations can't just buy their way out of being punished for infringing on the freedom of another.
Most federal agencies can be done away with.
I think one of the few places we should be spending our money is military. I'm not talking about keeping a large military to occupy the world with, I'm talking about keeping a technologically advanced military that we could theoretically conquer the world with, but don't. Increase military R&D, make NASA a military branch, and reduce the actual size of the military. Yes, keep a few bases well stocked with F-22's and better with a pilot for each, keep a few carriers along our shores fully staffed, keep subs on our coast and in our lakes, and keep a bunch of weekend warriors at home ready to defend. Keep every one of those soldiers and vehicles at home except for a few diplomatic and friendly exchanges, such as those with the United States Astronaut Corp. We could cut military spending by 90% and still increase our spending in R&D and significantly increase NASA's funding at the same time.
Legalize drugs, they same way they were legal 100 years ago (not counting prohibition). This will reduce our prison population, drive down the cost of drugs which will reduce the power of the Mexican cartels and severely reduce petty crimes that are committed to finance drug habits. Use our prisoners in chain gangs to build and maintain our infrastructure, only don't treat it like chain gang punishment. Treat them like employed workers (granted, with chains on). Give them an eight hour work day five days a week with their two 15's and a half hour lunch. Teach them advanced skills for the jobs they will be working complete with the annoying safety and health stuff I have to do at my job. Train them on operating and maintaining the construction equipment they use so they will not only be employable when they leave prison they may actually be desirable in a private work force. (radio controlled kill switches on prisoner operated equipment is a must of course) This doesn't have to be limited to construction, but where construction is utilized it has the potential to save tax dollars.
There's so much that can be done when you just take the blinders of how they are done off.
Are doctors against science? Seems to me like Doctors think science is a pretty neat idea that helps come up with cures to diseases.
I'm sure Ron Paul M.D. actually likes science.
How much money does Glaxo Smith-Kline make? How much money does Johnson & Johnson make? How much money does Pfizer make? I'm pretty sure they can fund their own research into drugs and how to keep people dependent on them.
How much money does Royal Dutch Shell make? How much money does Chevron-Texaco make? How much money does Conoco-Phillips make? How much money does Exxon-Mobile make? I'm pretty sure they can fund their own studies of chemicals, polymers, and how to squeeze the most money out of a drop of oil.
How much money does Intel make? How much money does Apple make? How much money does AMD make? How much money does Texas Instruments make? I'm sure they can fund their own research into improving the transistor and even beyond it.
How much does an Ivy League University charge for tuition? With some of them charging more for a year of college than I earn in a year per student I'm sure they can fund a little research, especially when they're utilizing students who are paying to be there to do at minimum the mundane routine stuff.
Why do so many Americans and Europeans think the government is the answer all end all to everything? Sure a lot of the above companies make a lot of money off of government contracts, but many of them did well before they had them also.
I've read Ron Paul's most recent book, he has very plainly outlined the problems with that department. Think of it as second wave.
As for singling Texas out as #1 in farm subsidies remember the shear number of square miles Texas has, especially the number of square miles that count as farm land. Texas has more square miles of farm land than many states have in any kind of square miles.
Couple that with being a red state that is in the black. Texas sends more money in the federal direction than it gets back.
Don't try to use the very size of Texas as anecdotal evidence against Ron Paul.
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The way I've always seen it is once you start calling people names or nitpicking spelling and grammar you've already lost your argument.
The protesters made some good points:
Chrony Capitalism coupled with inflation really has created a system where money comes out of the void, shoots to the top and by the very existence of that new money being created causes the money other people hold to decline in value.
Wall Street without a doubt orchestrated the creation of this system.
HOWEVER Wall Street people are the wrong ones to protest. Companies exist to make money by whatever means legal, and in some cases not legal. The bottom line is companies exist to make money. You invest in whatever company is most capable of doing that.
The problem lies in chronyism. A company that participates in chronyism isn't doing anything wrong, it's a means to an end in the companies goal of accumulating money. The corrupt government playing ball with chronies on the other hand IS doing something wrong.
Our government representatives are supposed to represent the people. When they begin to self-serve instead of serve the people they are doing something wrong.
By protesting Wall Street they're sending the message they don't want anyone to make money. If they were to "occupy the mall" instead and focus all of their energies and talent into figuring out the mechanics of every bribe, kick-back, vote trade, intimidation tactic, threat and dishonest move of every politician in Washington and create something akin to Wikipedia devoted specifically to those ends with as much evidence as possible we would be putting the real problem back in check. Unfortunately our three branch balance of power is out of balance, I blame the executive and legislative branches for pushing it out of balance and I blame the judicial branch for actively endorsing the shift in balance.
I don't get an actual feeling the OWSers are motived to fix things. I get a sense of "I'm fucking with you because I can" and I get the feeling they're pushing for a fascist communist/socialist shift. As with every large movement it's obviously not an across the board thing, but I do feel that it's the general consensus, and I'm also starting to suspect outside driving forces, in much the same way the Egyptian government had paid pro-government protesters to clash with the grass-roots protesters some time back. With the OWS crowd they wouldn't need more than a couple of key charismatic people placed in each camp.
In short theres a real problem that needs fixing, but I feel the motive of the protesters is to insert an agenda instead of actually fixing the problem.
Don't have my daughter arrested for parental abuse!
(she's blaring them in her room right now!)
If all you offer is one model at a time (Apple, no capacity differences don't truly count as a different model - radio differences may) it's really easy to make a tried and true hardened product. That being said Apple has been screwing up it's one product last couple of generations, granted not in a way that can't be handled.
Blackberry OS products, though more diverse than Apple's product line, are still very narrow in offerings.
Anyone who can slap together a few components can make an Android phone.
Android is truly a buyers market. It is up the the buyer to do all the research required to buy an Android device. Sticking with a few vendors is usually a safe way to do it. Sure you can probably find a really cheap phone from China from a manufacturer you've never heard of that looks like an iPhone, runs Android, and advertises 1,000 features, but you know deep down in your heart you probably should go with something by HTC instead. The difference between the compared groups is that Android, being free, allows the last guy to exist. In a true unencumbered market you're always going to have your sleeze bag bottom of the barrel stuff, then you're going to have your sexy Cadillac stuff. My EVO is over a year old and I don't see myself giving it up for a different model for at least six months, probably more, however if I were to have bought the budget "free" phone from any carrier at the same time, Android or not, there's a pretty good chance I would be growing tired of it by now, if it still worked at all.
This is no different than the way I always buy Wrangler Carpenter pants for work even though I could just as easily go to a discount store and buy random generic brands. I've done the latter, and sometimes I've gotten really good pants that last, and sometimes I got trash. Apple only sells the "Wrangler" product and wont allow anyone else to produce the equivalent. Blackberry only allows the Wrangler and a couple of others like Levi and Carhart. Android says "Make em all!".
These findings don't detract from Android. In my book it actually uplifts Android. What if all I wanted was a cheap but descent phone, not for making phone calls but for my kid to play Angry Birds on and listen to her Chipmunk albums? Chances are she's going to drop anything I get her in the toilet eventually so quality isn't the highest priority. I can get a bargain basement Android phone that doesn't break the bank. With Apple I have to mortgage her bicycle and LPS collection to buy an iPhone and lets face it, Blackberry isn't the best choice for Angry Birds. (Truth is I gave my kid my old iPhone 3G, but I seriously considered getting her an Android phone from Cowboom.com instead)
Articles like this that intentionally overlook the obvious are mostly FUD.
Or read From a Buick 8? Or The Langoliers?
I really don't want to rip a hole in space-time.
Hmm, I have reason to believe you're one of the assholes who goes around moding down every comment you can find that's even slightly against Apple. I see it by the way you're defending them even when they are obviously being assholes, as in RIAA suing Girl Scouts level of asshole and your friend/enemy structure.
Good points. The PS3 if I'm not mistaken can use PS2 controls with USB adapters, this could be the work-around they're looking for.
The only modern home system I have is a Wii, and I could imagine it would be useless without the Wii-Remotes, even if you do try to use GameCube control compatible games.
How may prison cells have Ethernet jacks in them?
Even without Ethernet jacks would there actually be anything to connect to WiFi with? I'm pretty sure you could permanently disable WiFi without killing the system, mostly by attacking it from the antenna angle, maybe even the radio (I really don't know these things on the board level).
Do any of you happen to know if KAudio Creator still works in Trinity? I've yet to find a CD ripper that actually works anywhere near as well as KAudio Creator for ripping tons of disk at a time, I open an instance for each drive and it works beautifully. All the rest of the rippers I've used are buggy as hell or more complicated than I want to deal with for the size of collection I have to rip (what's with K3B skipping the first track? It's been a known bug for a long time). I might throw Trinity on the system just for that if it's still around.
Meant to be this link not the other one.
FYI - two mod downs (as of typing this they haven't passed the mod ups)
Link to the chain
I'm going to keep a chain of these going to prove my theory, every time I get modded down for saying things critical of Apple. Yes there is a conspiracy theory - Apple fan boys working together. I actually have more than this to prove it, but I haven't dug them up yet.
It's always been ok to convert non-Apple electricity to Apple electricity, that's why they license five volt adapters.
Yes but it will produce Apple electricity, which will only work with Apple products (such as the "licensed only" chargers for the iPhone). Sure it's possible to adapt the electricity to work with non-Apple products, but then they'll sue you for it.
Came here to say this, not sure if an egg properly qualifies as an organism.
Oh look, I got modded down nearly a week later for calling them out in another thread and linking to this one. The more they mod me down the more they prove my point.
See
Told yah so!
By Golly! More evidence to support my theory! It's like I can predict which of my post are going to get modded down.
Hint:
They're about Apple and it's not about lapping up the Kool-Aid while proclaiming how great it taste.
The article was written as though it were carved in stone. As for me I haven't used an iPhone since the 3G, after that better phones existed.
You forgot about Tom-Tom fool!
A toggle switch.
In the BMW it could be a real physical toggle somewhere, but an OS setting would work as well. In Apple's case they need to relax a little, pull the stick out, and let the people toggle which voice they want, even MS allows that on their voice related functions.
Are you telling me universities would stop playing nice with one another without federal grants?
Hope you don't mind me using that as a mark against universities. Has anyone every given serious thought to attempting to raise funds outside of the tax system?
Certainly you can find a way to raise some money once our national debt is paid down a bit and government corruption is under control to point money is flowing freely through the economy again.
Right now I'm not sure how happy I am with the way research is going anyways. My tax dollars pay for your research which goes into very expensive peer reviewed journals, gets locked up in patents and doesn't necessarily give it's results back to the people who funded it. Gene patents anyone?
That's what the bottom university mention was about. Who have been our biggest most visible scientific minds? Albert Einstein? Worked for a university. Stephen Hawking? Works for a university. So Carl Sagan did a lot of his work for NASA, if I had my way NASA would simply become a military branch, and probably get more funding that way. Even if he worked for a private space agency and still wrote his books he would have made a good living.
I don't see where your argument has any real foundation.
Before these modern thinkers who supported the past ones? I know, you don't want me to bring up the fact that churches provided much of the support for Michelangelo and Leonardo Da Vinci.
THANK YOU!
It is nearly impossible to get people to see the right answer because they've accepted the wrong one for so damned long.
Our current system was in answer to an old form of corruption. The old form of corruption was if a competitor sprung up the bigger guy would literally set fire to the business of the new guy during the night and would make sure local authorities were paid off to prevent backlash. Old forms of monopolies pretty much grew up and maintained power in this manner.
Just when this form of corruption was starting to get under control the Great Depression happened and FDR leveraged it to gain power by trying to create an all encompassing government monopoly by implementing the NRA, the National Recovery Act which in a sense socialized every business that was on board and had a habit of leaving businesses owners that weren't on board with broken legs. The NRA itself was busted up and it's mascot, the blue eagle, was retired. However the way to long of a presidency that FDR had caused an entire generation to grow up thinking his socialist policies were the right way to go.
We need to go back to the old way of doing things, where people completed on an open and free market, only we need to make sure the bribe the local authorities issue is handled and that people/corporations can't just buy their way out of being punished for infringing on the freedom of another.
Most federal agencies can be done away with.
I think one of the few places we should be spending our money is military. I'm not talking about keeping a large military to occupy the world with, I'm talking about keeping a technologically advanced military that we could theoretically conquer the world with, but don't. Increase military R&D, make NASA a military branch, and reduce the actual size of the military. Yes, keep a few bases well stocked with F-22's and better with a pilot for each, keep a few carriers along our shores fully staffed, keep subs on our coast and in our lakes, and keep a bunch of weekend warriors at home ready to defend. Keep every one of those soldiers and vehicles at home except for a few diplomatic and friendly exchanges, such as those with the United States Astronaut Corp. We could cut military spending by 90% and still increase our spending in R&D and significantly increase NASA's funding at the same time.
Legalize drugs, they same way they were legal 100 years ago (not counting prohibition). This will reduce our prison population, drive down the cost of drugs which will reduce the power of the Mexican cartels and severely reduce petty crimes that are committed to finance drug habits. Use our prisoners in chain gangs to build and maintain our infrastructure, only don't treat it like chain gang punishment. Treat them like employed workers (granted, with chains on). Give them an eight hour work day five days a week with their two 15's and a half hour lunch. Teach them advanced skills for the jobs they will be working complete with the annoying safety and health stuff I have to do at my job. Train them on operating and maintaining the construction equipment they use so they will not only be employable when they leave prison they may actually be desirable in a private work force. (radio controlled kill switches on prisoner operated equipment is a must of course) This doesn't have to be limited to construction, but where construction is utilized it has the potential to save tax dollars.
There's so much that can be done when you just take the blinders of how they are done off.
Are doctors against science? Seems to me like Doctors think science is a pretty neat idea that helps come up with cures to diseases.
I'm sure Ron Paul M.D. actually likes science.
How much money does Glaxo Smith-Kline make? How much money does Johnson & Johnson make? How much money does Pfizer make?
I'm pretty sure they can fund their own research into drugs and how to keep people dependent on them.
How much money does Royal Dutch Shell make? How much money does Chevron-Texaco make? How much money does Conoco-Phillips make? How much money does Exxon-Mobile make?
I'm pretty sure they can fund their own studies of chemicals, polymers, and how to squeeze the most money out of a drop of oil.
How much money does Intel make? How much money does Apple make? How much money does AMD make? How much money does Texas Instruments make?
I'm sure they can fund their own research into improving the transistor and even beyond it.
How much does an Ivy League University charge for tuition? With some of them charging more for a year of college than I earn in a year per student I'm sure they can fund a little research, especially when they're utilizing students who are paying to be there to do at minimum the mundane routine stuff.
Why do so many Americans and Europeans think the government is the answer all end all to everything? Sure a lot of the above companies make a lot of money off of government contracts, but many of them did well before they had them also.
I've read Ron Paul's most recent book, he has very plainly outlined the problems with that department. Think of it as second wave.
As for singling Texas out as #1 in farm subsidies remember the shear number of square miles Texas has, especially the number of square miles that count as farm land. Texas has more square miles of farm land than many states have in any kind of square miles.
Couple that with being a red state that is in the black. Texas sends more money in the federal direction than it gets back.
Don't try to use the very size of Texas as anecdotal evidence against Ron Paul.