I'm under the impression Sony has already lost this case. Very recently it was decided that you CAN hack your own phones. I don't see what would make the PS3 so special that Sony can declare they can police what you can do with hardware you yourself have purchased and is in your own living room, especially since phone manufacturers have been told they don't have the power Sony is claiming to have. Granted the PS3 is not a mobile phone, but take away that particular radio I don't see what differentiates it from a mobile phone in those same regards.
But the Copyright Office concluded that, “while a copyright owner might try to restrict the programs that can be run on a particular operating system, copyright law is not the vehicle for imposition of such restrictions.”
I think the Wired article the previous and next quotes come from address this case almost as well as the article covered in the parent.
A federal appeals court came to the same conclusion last week in an unrelated dispute about “dongles,” or keys that grant access to software. “The owner’s technological measure must protect the copyrighted material against an infringement of a right that the Copyright Act protects, not from mere use or viewing,” the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in a case concerning a software licensing flap between MGE UPS Systems and GE Consumer and Industrial.
I hope Sony gets shot down. The PS3, and for that matter the PSP are both incredibly powerful systems with so much to offer but with a big dolt called Sony sitting on them saying you can't use them for that. This attitude is why I ditched my iPhone, which I refused to hack even though I could, for an Android phone - which I wound up hacking - but to keep it from doing what I didn't want to instead of making it do what I thought it should. My PSP is hacked and I like it that way, the battery last much longer and I don't have to carry all those UMD's with me. For that matter I can buy my UMD's at fair market price at a store instead of having to buy them from a website that has Sony setting an outrageous price for them that has nothing to do with what they're worth on the market.
I ditched the iPhone not because of the crappy Facebook interface - really, not the top of my priority list - but because of Apple's and AT&T's hubris. Apple practices the art of lock-in like a martial art these days and have a real "we don't care what the complaints are" attitude. The only real difference between Apple of today and Microsoft of 1998 is that Apple's products actually work well and there are alternative available. Oddly, Microsoft seems to be slowly coming around and have recently shed many pounds of evil, not that I'm jumping on their bandwagon.
On top of that my iPhone was initially issued by a job I no longer have and wanting to be able to use my Google calendar seamlessly with my in-pocket device influenced my decision very heavily.
I actually bought the Linksys Iphone (yes, a Linksys Iphone) from Comp USA for $75 when they had the going out of business sale. Other than the little navigation nub losing its rubber point it was great, I loved it, then hurricane Ike soaked it. Never tried the INQ 1.
Does this mean that Facebook is finally going to build a mobile phone interface that doesn't just outright suck?
I used the Facebook client for the iPhone when I had an iPhone. It was buggy as hell and left something to be desired. It improved towards the end of my using an iphone, but I must say it still wasn't that great, still had caching and sync issues. I found I was much better off using Safari on all but a few specialized task, but that sucked also.
Now I'm using an EVO 4G. The Facebook program that came with it sucked rocks. It was arguable worse than the iPhone one, because instead of giving me out of date garbage cache, it gave me nothing most of them. That or code errors. I updated to a newer version yesterday, seems to be a little better but I haven't really put it to the test. I've been doing just like I did with the iPhone with my Android phone, using one or the other depending on my task at hand. Still at the end of the day it's sort of random as to getting everything or not.
BTW - I've never been happier to ditch Apple, I far prefer Android.
I think it's going to be hilarious if Facebook releases a phone that does everything but Facebook well.
To be perfectly fair their clientele was going be waving one wand or another around in their hand, Nintendo had the good sense to cash in on it. The glove idea? Really, who needs a glove?
I've dealt with Greg Abbott and the rest of the Texas legal system. The Texas court system is so obviously "Justice for those who can pay for it" and Greg Abbott personally only responds to things that will give him good PR or more money flowing to him that I'm surprised there hasn't been a probe. Google is the financial jackpot.
I'm not sure what side of the pond you're on, but here in the U.S. about the only legitimate way to use an iPhone is not only to buy into Apple's hubris, but to buy into AT&T's also. Many people jailbreak iPhones so they can use T-Mobile or some other carrier, and from all reports I've heard they're better off for doing it.
When an on duty, in uniform, on the clock deputy guards a U-Haul when his wife backs it up to my house and helps to clean it out, then I get an audio recording of a participant not only admitting to it but taunting and bragging about it, then the sheriffs department calls it a "civil matter" I would say some monkey business was going on. I wrote Greg Abbott for help on the matter and the fact that a judge was obviously biased in the matter when issues surrounding this went to court. Greg Abbott told me to buzz off. Then when I tried to setup to pay my child support like I was supposed to his office refused to talk to me without a lawyer representing me.
So he's neglecting the people he's supposed to take care of but goes after Google. Why?
Google has money and I don't.
The wont talk to me without a lawyer bit? That's right, hire a lawyer to support the legal industrial complex.
Democrat, Republican, it doesn't really matter which one you elect, you're going to get a crooked bastard looking to move money through the machine who doesn't care about their job.
BTW - I wrote the governor on these issues. He told me to talk to Greg Abbott.
At Sumo scale they should have pockets to accommodate an iPad. I wear carpenter pants and keep my iPhone in the leg pocket, I figure the leg pocket for Sumo size carpenters should have a leg pocket big enough for an iPad.
Sometimes that's good, but keeping things local isn't always a bad choice. Sometimes inviting in outsiders is like inviting a vampire in, now you're stuck with them.
This particular issue isn't really that big of a deal either way. What I'm defending the guy on is his thought process - everyone is quick to paint him as a literal tin-foil hat wearing idiot but he's not, at least not on this issue. The guy is thinking about gateway items or "hook" items.
I'm not going to get into the mechanics of why, or the multiple examples to show he has a valid thought process but I actually agree with him. I'm a Libertarian so I'm not on the Republican band wagon, and I am a biker (a BMXer) so I'm certainly not in the anti-bike crowd.
My solution:
Study the program and create a parallel one to implement. Figure out what the international program has right, what it has wrong and make a U.S. centric one with him as the founder and implement it. You keep the people who really care about the bike part happy, you make the environmentalist happy, the only people you piss off are the ones who are opposed to both programs and the ones who actually do have have goals with an international program.
Sometimes knock off programs outlast the big ones anyways since they're more locally focused and don't have to stretch so far.
I ditched them about 14 months ago and it was still blocked. I had 20 Mbps fiber that slowly got downgraded to about 4 Mbps fiber with no reduction in bill or notification.
I love pointing out unnecessary port blocking in the U.S. - most major U.S. ISP's block port 80 outbound, along with various other mostly email and FTP related ports just for the hell of it. I know that Time Warner, before it left Houston, had a nasty habit of sniffing traffic and if they determined you had a VPN session open to a work based server they insisted you buy a pro account.
I can't possibly be the only person around who thinks coffins are a waste of good resources. Back in the old days a pine box was all you got, and that wasn't so bad. Now they're full of steel, brass, aluminum and who knows what else.
Shouldn't those materials be used on the living?
This corkscrew coffin seems like it would require MORE of these things, not less.
Plow my carcass into a field for fertilizer, there's no reason to waste resources to build an empty shell to put my empty shell in.
I wouldn't call the lack of a rabid crowd of foaming at the mouth zealots behind a candidate a bad thing. When camps A and B call each other idiots, usually they're both right. The fact the least objectionable guy getting votes on the other hand (remember - the real wall flowers aren't getting any of the votes) isn't getting hated on could be a good thing.
Are you actually saying the military would be the best people to police this?
I don't know, how about setting up an ISP honey pot. If the logs show a user of the ISP that has a honey pot is trying to pwn the honey pot machine then the ISP can take action. If it's a user from another ISP they might pass a note, might not, either way the infested user has to be the one to make themselves know. Is that acceptable?
This is one of the most intelligent replies I've seen today. I have have absolutely no problem with this. Those of us like me who want their ports can get them without sitting on hold with morons who don't know what ports are while getting passed around to 12 different departments and getting nowhere can just flick a switch. Those who don't know what a port is probably don't know the control panels there, or if they do don't know what a port is so they figure it's safer not to mess with it if they don't know what it does.
Listen in many countries we have laws protecting our freedom to do as we please. Yes, it's debatable rather we really have those freedoms or not, but that's beside the point.
One thing that we generally have laws about is our personal freedoms end at the point that we utilize them to restrict someone else's freedom.
If you're botnet infested you are out there doing denial of service attacks and trying to hack other systems into joining your bot net. At this point your freedom is being used in an attempt to restrict someone else's freedom.
That's what jails are for, or in this case being cut off until you fix it.
I see no "one rule for you, one for the rest of us" as you say. I see "don't attack someone else". Don't attack someone else is a pretty good rule I think.
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I'm under the impression Sony has already lost this case. Very recently it was decided that you CAN hack your own phones. I don't see what would make the PS3 so special that Sony can declare they can police what you can do with hardware you yourself have purchased and is in your own living room, especially since phone manufacturers have been told they don't have the power Sony is claiming to have. Granted the PS3 is not a mobile phone, but take away that particular radio I don't see what differentiates it from a mobile phone in those same regards.
But the Copyright Office concluded that, “while a copyright owner might try to restrict the programs that can be run on a particular operating system, copyright law is not the vehicle for imposition of such restrictions.”
I think the Wired article the previous and next quotes come from address this case almost as well as the article covered in the parent.
A federal appeals court came to the same conclusion last week in an unrelated dispute about “dongles,” or keys that grant access to software. “The owner’s technological measure must protect the copyrighted material against an infringement of a right that the Copyright Act protects, not from mere use or viewing,” the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in a case concerning a software licensing flap between MGE UPS Systems and GE Consumer and Industrial.
I hope Sony gets shot down. The PS3, and for that matter the PSP are both incredibly powerful systems with so much to offer but with a big dolt called Sony sitting on them saying you can't use them for that. This attitude is why I ditched my iPhone, which I refused to hack even though I could, for an Android phone - which I wound up hacking - but to keep it from doing what I didn't want to instead of making it do what I thought it should. My PSP is hacked and I like it that way, the battery last much longer and I don't have to carry all those UMD's with me. For that matter I can buy my UMD's at fair market price at a store instead of having to buy them from a website that has Sony setting an outrageous price for them that has nothing to do with what they're worth on the market.
I moved to Android about three weeks ago.
I ditched the iPhone not because of the crappy Facebook interface - really, not the top of my priority list - but because of Apple's and AT&T's hubris. Apple practices the art of lock-in like a martial art these days and have a real "we don't care what the complaints are" attitude. The only real difference between Apple of today and Microsoft of 1998 is that Apple's products actually work well and there are alternative available. Oddly, Microsoft seems to be slowly coming around and have recently shed many pounds of evil, not that I'm jumping on their bandwagon.
On top of that my iPhone was initially issued by a job I no longer have and wanting to be able to use my Google calendar seamlessly with my in-pocket device influenced my decision very heavily.
I actually bought the Linksys Iphone (yes, a Linksys Iphone) from Comp USA for $75 when they had the going out of business sale. Other than the little navigation nub losing its rubber point it was great, I loved it, then hurricane Ike soaked it. Never tried the INQ 1.
Does this mean that Facebook is finally going to build a mobile phone interface that doesn't just outright suck?
I used the Facebook client for the iPhone when I had an iPhone. It was buggy as hell and left something to be desired. It improved towards the end of my using an iphone, but I must say it still wasn't that great, still had caching and sync issues. I found I was much better off using Safari on all but a few specialized task, but that sucked also.
Now I'm using an EVO 4G. The Facebook program that came with it sucked rocks. It was arguable worse than the iPhone one, because instead of giving me out of date garbage cache, it gave me nothing most of them. That or code errors. I updated to a newer version yesterday, seems to be a little better but I haven't really put it to the test. I've been doing just like I did with the iPhone with my Android phone, using one or the other depending on my task at hand. Still at the end of the day it's sort of random as to getting everything or not.
BTW - I've never been happier to ditch Apple, I far prefer Android.
I think it's going to be hilarious if Facebook releases a phone that does everything but Facebook well.
If I were a billionaire where Mr. Abbott is concerned I could have bought my way out of even having to walk into a court room.
To be perfectly fair their clientele was going be waving one wand or another around in their hand, Nintendo had the good sense to cash in on it. The glove idea? Really, who needs a glove?
I've dealt with Greg Abbott and the rest of the Texas legal system. The Texas court system is so obviously "Justice for those who can pay for it" and Greg Abbott personally only responds to things that will give him good PR or more money flowing to him that I'm surprised there hasn't been a probe. Google is the financial jackpot.
I'm not sure what side of the pond you're on, but here in the U.S. about the only legitimate way to use an iPhone is not only to buy into Apple's hubris, but to buy into AT&T's also. Many people jailbreak iPhones so they can use T-Mobile or some other carrier, and from all reports I've heard they're better off for doing it.
Check the Virtual Boy for prior art ideas. Obviously something so popular and successful can serve for further inspiration.
When an on duty, in uniform, on the clock deputy guards a U-Haul when his wife backs it up to my house and helps to clean it out, then I get an audio recording of a participant not only admitting to it but taunting and bragging about it, then the sheriffs department calls it a "civil matter" I would say some monkey business was going on. I wrote Greg Abbott for help on the matter and the fact that a judge was obviously biased in the matter when issues surrounding this went to court. Greg Abbott told me to buzz off. Then when I tried to setup to pay my child support like I was supposed to his office refused to talk to me without a lawyer representing me.
So he's neglecting the people he's supposed to take care of but goes after Google. Why?
Google has money and I don't.
The wont talk to me without a lawyer bit? That's right, hire a lawyer to support the legal industrial complex.
Democrat, Republican, it doesn't really matter which one you elect, you're going to get a crooked bastard looking to move money through the machine who doesn't care about their job.
BTW - I wrote the governor on these issues. He told me to talk to Greg Abbott.
At Sumo scale they should have pockets to accommodate an iPad. I wear carpenter pants and keep my iPhone in the leg pocket, I figure the leg pocket for Sumo size carpenters should have a leg pocket big enough for an iPad.
Sometimes that's good, but keeping things local isn't always a bad choice. Sometimes inviting in outsiders is like inviting a vampire in, now you're stuck with them.
This particular issue isn't really that big of a deal either way. What I'm defending the guy on is his thought process - everyone is quick to paint him as a literal tin-foil hat wearing idiot but he's not, at least not on this issue. The guy is thinking about gateway items or "hook" items.
I'm not going to get into the mechanics of why, or the multiple examples to show he has a valid thought process but I actually agree with him. I'm a Libertarian so I'm not on the Republican band wagon, and I am a biker (a BMXer) so I'm certainly not in the anti-bike crowd.
My solution:
Study the program and create a parallel one to implement. Figure out what the international program has right, what it has wrong and make a U.S. centric one with him as the founder and implement it. You keep the people who really care about the bike part happy, you make the environmentalist happy, the only people you piss off are the ones who are opposed to both programs and the ones who actually do have have goals with an international program.
Sometimes knock off programs outlast the big ones anyways since they're more locally focused and don't have to stretch so far.
I ditched them about 14 months ago and it was still blocked. I had 20 Mbps fiber that slowly got downgraded to about 4 Mbps fiber with no reduction in bill or notification.
I love pointing out unnecessary port blocking in the U.S. - most major U.S. ISP's block port 80 outbound, along with various other mostly email and FTP related ports just for the hell of it. I know that Time Warner, before it left Houston, had a nasty habit of sniffing traffic and if they determined you had a VPN session open to a work based server they insisted you buy a pro account.
I can't possibly be the only person around who thinks coffins are a waste of good resources. Back in the old days a pine box was all you got, and that wasn't so bad. Now they're full of steel, brass, aluminum and who knows what else.
Shouldn't those materials be used on the living?
This corkscrew coffin seems like it would require MORE of these things, not less.
Plow my carcass into a field for fertilizer, there's no reason to waste resources to build an empty shell to put my empty shell in.
but at least my dream of having a stack of "PADDs" piled up on my desk (Star Trek TNG style) may finally come true!
I have the communicator, now for a working tricorder.....
This makes sense.
Dedicate one chip to validating the boot code, if it detects monkey business blows the "eFUSE" that shuts off power to the other processors.
I wonder if this can be bypassed with a simple short?
Just now caught this one, you should have been modded up.
Exactly. Many moons ago. I drop by on rare occasions but for the most part I'm gone.
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I know you from somewhere, and I think I know where. I'm becoming a fan.
I wouldn't call the lack of a rabid crowd of foaming at the mouth zealots behind a candidate a bad thing. When camps A and B call each other idiots, usually they're both right. The fact the least objectionable guy getting votes on the other hand (remember - the real wall flowers aren't getting any of the votes) isn't getting hated on could be a good thing.
capabilities of civilians.....
Are you actually saying the military would be the best people to police this?
I don't know, how about setting up an ISP honey pot. If the logs show a user of the ISP that has a honey pot is trying to pwn the honey pot machine then the ISP can take action. If it's a user from another ISP they might pass a note, might not, either way the infested user has to be the one to make themselves know. Is that acceptable?
This is one of the most intelligent replies I've seen today. I have have absolutely no problem with this. Those of us like me who want their ports can get them without sitting on hold with morons who don't know what ports are while getting passed around to 12 different departments and getting nowhere can just flick a switch. Those who don't know what a port is probably don't know the control panels there, or if they do don't know what a port is so they figure it's safer not to mess with it if they don't know what it does.
I like it.
Listen in many countries we have laws protecting our freedom to do as we please. Yes, it's debatable rather we really have those freedoms or not, but that's beside the point.
One thing that we generally have laws about is our personal freedoms end at the point that we utilize them to restrict someone else's freedom.
If you're botnet infested you are out there doing denial of service attacks and trying to hack other systems into joining your bot net. At this point your freedom is being used in an attempt to restrict someone else's freedom.
That's what jails are for, or in this case being cut off until you fix it.
I see no "one rule for you, one for the rest of us" as you say. I see "don't attack someone else". Don't attack someone else is a pretty good rule I think.