Ten million is not expensive for an aerospace contractor, there are some missiles parked under planes costing over 20 times 10 million that in the air force that are worth more than that each - and they are *disposable*.
Could it be that Apple does have security improvements in Snow Leopard, but isn't talking about them yet because they don't want people shouting "OMG Leopard is insecure"?
That's an interesting possibility, you should get modded up.:-) I was wondering myself why Snow Leo is slated to have significant security improvements yet Apple is mum about them, while they are willing to prominently display other non-security-oriented architectural improvements coming in 10.6
...but Apple's priorities concerning security are rather low; they rely heavily on security-through-obscurity...
Right, no one's trying to become the first person to develop and perpetrate a mass scale Mac attack.
You haven't been paying attention, there's already been a Mac botnet, from hacked illegal copies of Photoshop and iWork. That having been said, yes, they aren't trying to do it very much. Why? Because they can get 20 times as many PCs for the same amount of effort, it's a question of dollars and cents. Hacking is a multibillion dollar business, and like any business, profit margins are obsessivly chased after. Look at Conflicker, everyone was worried that 10 million PCs would have their hard drives wiped April 1st, but since that was not profitable, nothing happened visable, then later on the usual phony virus-scanner scam and spam relays that earn the hacker millions from organized crime.
Snow Leopard is mainly a beneath-the-hood architectural upgrade.
Then how are they planning to market it to the Great Unwashed? They're never going to pursuade the fan-base to shell out dollars and cents if they can't see something new and shiny.
All of those people with Macbook Airs (no pun intended) and any upcoming Apple netbook who's systems could use a more svelte OS would be in the market for it. Think Vista vs. Windows 7, except less of a difference in speed and interface. If you don't believe me, check out the site I linked earlier - Apple's own marketing copy says the new features are on "pause" and the feature of Snow Leo is performance and smaller footprint.
Yes, but Snow Leo doesn't really "pretty up" anything much, it's all under the hood. Now, if they start updating all of the open and closed-source software that comes with OS X enough to keep it secure too, I'll be more impressed; but I doubt Apple will do that unless they're forced to. (Sound familiar?)
That having been said, there's nothing on there about added security. I can tell you there are some rumors that things like more complete code page protection and address randomization will be in Snow Leo, but Apple's priorities concerning security are rather low; they rely heavily on security-through-obscurity, and one day if they're not careful it's going to bite them.
Is pathological addiction when you get lower than average grades, or is it when you sell your body for the next 15 minute rush from an illegal neurotransmitter mangler?
I know a young lady who was addicted to crack for a while, ended up living in a crackhouse (and you can guess the rest) and she would probably object strenuously to the characterization of "pathological addiction" for low-school-grade getting because a kid spends time on a leisure activity instead of doing homework.
I hope this game isn't brought down by bullshit polarized moral choices too. Kill woman in house, don't lose karma. Steal her toaster though, lose karma. Post about it on slashdot, regain karma.
This is after the apocalypse. Nobody's making toasters anymore. Human life is cheap but toasters are priceless.
If making post-apocalyptic toast is more important than the repopulation of our species.
What's the difference? After a nuclear war, our species is toast!
In video games, evil basically translates to "killing everything I see for the pure psychopathic joy of it. There's almost never any real quality evil going on anymore, you either raze the village to the ground, or you save it from danger. There's no depth.
what they've believed their whole lives might actually not be true
Actually, I'd expect it to be the reverse. If I expected my eternal destiny to be judged upon death, I'd be pretty anxious to postpone my trial.
Well, I don't know if they surveyed Orthodox Jews, but although Orthodox Judaism doesn't mandate life-support, it does mandate that once life-support is given, it should not be withdrawn; unless the person no longer is breathing. (There is no halachic (Jewish law) concept of "brain death", unless you hold by the minority view of Rabbi Moshe Tendler, which is like that a bit.) So this is a different reason, since Jews don't tend to think they're headed for eternal hell (which is reserved for the very wicked in Jewish theology.)
I switched from Parallels Desktop to VirtualBox and it has one feature which I really like; the ability to run for over a week without causing a kernel panic. This was something the version of Parallels I paid for couldn't do. Apparently they messed up the IPI handling (doing something that was wrong but relatively harmless on the Core 1, and very bad on the Core 2), but the only way of 'fixing' the problem way to buy the next version of the product. Since I don't like paying for bug fixes, I never found out if the new version actually did fix the problem, but there's no way I'd give the company any money after that.
VMWare also has that feature of stability, and not having to pay for upgrades. (First hit is not free, however.;-) ) Virtualbox is pretty good, but can't do stuff like run bootcamp partitions or graphics, and VMWare Fusion outperforms it and out-compatibles it. Other than that though, Virtualbox is a good choice if you don't want to pay about $60 for the privledge of virtualizing Windows or various other operating systems on your Mac. (Though unless you're running a server or deploying on Linux, I'm not sure what the attraction is for running Linux on a Mac; OS X *is* Unix under the hood after all and runs most of the Linux and BSD programs, even X11 if you like that kind of punishment.;-) )
Then they should stop making statements about browsers being beyond operating system dependencies, it looks a bit hypocritical when your own browser is less cross-platform than IE.
If you read the reasons why they haven't made it cross platform yet, it is because the first version on Windows had a *lot* of (uneccesary IMHO) dependencies on Windows-specific OS libraries, which are possible to avoid if you're building something meant to be cross-platform from the start.
Here's one post that gives only an eagle-eye view of how little Chrome was cross-platform: http://benjamin-meyer.blogspot.com/2008/11/status-of-chromium-on-linux.html
Also, from an article in The Register, not even the HTTP implementation was build without using WinHTTP, necessitating they rewrite that entirely a second time. If cross-platform was a priority for Google, rather than just fighting IE, they would have tried a lot harder. The only parts of Chrome that were cross-platform are the parts Google didn't write. (That's a lot of stuff, but not near enough to make a working browser.)
Actually, for the longest time, MS was going to move the Sidekick over to WinCE- they were even gearing up for it. Unfortunately, after many months of this (A year ago, in reality...), they have announced that they're doing it with a *BSD core and they're HIRING *BSD devs for it.
If you're doing what you're claiming, you don't spend 12 months doing it that way and then gear up for the other OS that you don't sell...doesn't look good to investors to spend 225 billion or so on someone to do something like this.;-)
That's not all that looks bad for investors. WinMo 7 is coming out in 2010, a year behind schedule, which is an eternity with the Palm Pre coming out in 2009, Android gaining traction, and of course the iPhone and Blackberry all out-selling it with next-generation smartphones that are either iPhone-like or otherwise more stable and powerful devices than WinMo/WinCE.
Apple isn't even willing to allow an interpreted language on the iPhone. What makes you think they would be willing to relinquish control here?
Palm, OTOH, has loads of interpreted languages available for download from third-party websites for their PalmOS smartphones and PDAs. Everything from C compilers and Python to Lisp and Lua.List of PalmOS interpreted and compiled languages
Palm, incidentally, is the maker of the device, the Palm Pre, most likely to be affected by this patent. After the patent's granting, their stock fell quite a bit. Considering that they've basically bet the company on the Palm Pre, you can kiss them goodbye if this patent is enforced by Apple, as Tim Cook, temporary CEO, has threatened.
Seems as though the only people I know who actively choose Sprint choose it because Sprint is the only viable option where they live. The GSM carriers' coverage really starts to suffer in the big, wide-open spaces of the Midwest.
I chose them because they were the only carrier to allow me a data plan that was both relatively reasonable and didn't require a huge deposit. They also have excellent coverage here in New York.
My service on Sprint in Brooklyn was fine during the inauguration. I tried to watch it on Sprint TV via CNN and it failed to connect though, I did manage to get streaming audio from WNYC however and heard it all on the phone.
take a look at the amount of development and improvements in performance and reliability
Instead of looking at the duct tape Apple has been slapping on for 8 years, why don't we look at the architectural changes instead.
When you do, you will see my point explain itself.
Show me where Apple redesigned the audio system, driver mechanism, memory manager, introduced a new scheduler, replaced the network stack with newer technology, attached a new video driver model.
The network stack has been replaced with the one in FreeBSD, and the audio system has been redesigned, and the memory manager has undergone changes. Some of those other things haven't been changed as much as in Windows because they aren't as broken as Windows 9x was. You really don't know what you're talking about, do you.:-)
Heck even show me where Apple built a true '64bit' version of OS X, instead of a 32bit kernel architecture that allows applications to flag for 64bit memory addressing?
The kernel is 32 bit, but then we're talking about Mach, the microkernel, the rest of the OS is 64 bit, but supports 32 bit applications and drivers transparently. That is going to change in Snow Leopard. I think they've done a better job even than Linux at making a 64 bit transition, Apple has practice in making architectural transitions of this nature, going back to the 68K to PPC transition and others.
(Ask Adobe how the 64bit migration path they were promised is working out for them, since the only 64bit versions of their commercial software only runs on Vista x64 - a real 64bit OS.
Please, Adobe was told that Carbon was going to be phased out 8 years ago. Their choice to avoid doing things the NextStep way and relying on depreciated APIs from OS9 and earlier bit them. Most other software makers besides Adobe and Microsoft on OS X don't rely on Carbon, and if they did, made the transition.
Polishing the OS X 'apple' is what MS calls SPs, and Apple calls new OSes and changes $99 for...
And if you really want to get into this, we can start with Darwin, Apple's driver model, and work our way up to the STILL USED display postscript of the GUI that technically lags behind GDI+ of XP.
It depends upon what your technical criteria are. GDI+ isn't very portable. Display Postscript is more the historical Unix approach to the problem, such as NeWS.
Have you actually played with Snow Leopard - the first semi-64bit attempt of OS X? Seamless integration is not a word that comes to mind. It is more duct tape and some really scary failures in usability based on how Apple is trying to frankenstein the OS together. When a legacy 32bit applet requires the control panel application to restart in 32bit mode, there is a serious architectural design flaw in the OS itself.
When an operating system requires that old drivers be re-written and that many applications fail to work for their 64 bit versions of their operating systems; to the point that people still prefer their 32 bit operating systems, what do you call that? People in glass-(windows) houses shouldn't throw stones.;-)
Being someone that actually worked with Darwin code and spent time with the Apple driver model (that had potential)
Considering your factual errors, I think this fact about your biography is as likely as the concept that there are women on slashdot.;-) (Just kidding ladies, er, or whatever you're calling yourself!)
I personally use Vista more than 50% of the time for my personal computing, and this gives me power, as I don't love everything about it, and I can see the freaking flaws and I do scream at Microsoft. With enough people taking notice of 'crap', companies like Microsoft do listen, and it may shock Apple at first, but they will start to listen too when their u
There is still more difference between Windows7 and Vista than there is between OS X 10.0 and OS X 10.5 - yet I don't see people running around here calling OS X 10.x releases service packs.
I suggest you, since you obviously haven't run 10.0 through 10.5 of OS X, take a look at the amount of development and improvements in performance and reliability (with the possible exception of Leopard, which was mostly features and a much-needed interface cleanup, but Snow Leopard's supposed to fix Leopard) over it's lifetime. Compared to Windows 7, which is based very much on Vista with a bit of a more Mac-like interface, it is rediculous to claim that there's more differences between Windows 7 and Vista than between 10.0 OS X Cheetah 8 years ago and Leopard.
Unless by difference you mean Windows 7 might not suck eggs as much as Vista, I suppose that is a big difference of sorts, though not one to be proud of.;-)
IMHO this is a damn sight better than SOME of the DRM employed by other companies which even lock out other operating systems (Windows MediaSlayer I'm looking at you)
It doesn't lock out other operating systems? What about anything besides MacOS and Windows?
Oh, I certainly don't wonder. I'm sure Blizzard has hired psychologists to figure out the optimal effort:reward ratio to keep people playing as long as possible. MMORPGs are designed to be addictive by people who understand in great detail how addictions work; that's why telling somebody to stop playing is about as effective as telling an alcoholic to stop drinking.
Although I don't think that it is fair to classify video games as an "addiction" rather than an obsession with most people who play them excessively (few people get as addicted as people do to substances) it is true that Sony Online Entertainment hired psychologists to help design Everquest, and I'm sure Blizzard has also.
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The *planes* are 20 times 10 million, the missles as much as the heli. My message wasn't written very clearly. :-(
Ten million is not expensive for an aerospace contractor, there are some missiles parked under planes costing over 20 times 10 million that in the air force that are worth more than that each - and they are *disposable*.
Could it be that Apple does have security improvements in Snow Leopard, but isn't talking about them yet because they don't want people shouting "OMG Leopard is insecure"?
That's an interesting possibility, you should get modded up. :-) I was wondering myself why Snow Leo is slated to have significant security improvements yet Apple is mum about them, while they are willing to prominently display other non-security-oriented architectural improvements coming in 10.6
...but Apple's priorities concerning security are rather low; they rely heavily on security-through-obscurity...
Right, no one's trying to become the first person to develop and perpetrate a mass scale Mac attack.
You haven't been paying attention, there's already been a Mac botnet, from hacked illegal copies of Photoshop and iWork. That having been said, yes, they aren't trying to do it very much. Why? Because they can get 20 times as many PCs for the same amount of effort, it's a question of dollars and cents. Hacking is a multibillion dollar business, and like any business, profit margins are obsessivly chased after. Look at Conflicker, everyone was worried that 10 million PCs would have their hard drives wiped April 1st, but since that was not profitable, nothing happened visable, then later on the usual phony virus-scanner scam and spam relays that earn the hacker millions from organized crime.
Snow Leopard is mainly a beneath-the-hood architectural upgrade. Then how are they planning to market it to the Great Unwashed? They're never going to pursuade the fan-base to shell out dollars and cents if they can't see something new and shiny.
All of those people with Macbook Airs (no pun intended) and any upcoming Apple netbook who's systems could use a more svelte OS would be in the market for it. Think Vista vs. Windows 7, except less of a difference in speed and interface. If you don't believe me, check out the site I linked earlier - Apple's own marketing copy says the new features are on "pause" and the feature of Snow Leo is performance and smaller footprint.
Yes, but Snow Leo doesn't really "pretty up" anything much, it's all under the hood. Now, if they start updating all of the open and closed-source software that comes with OS X enough to keep it secure too, I'll be more impressed; but I doubt Apple will do that unless they're forced to. (Sound familiar?)
You've kinda just proven the OP's point. Snow Leopard is just prettying up what already exists.
Snow Leopard is mainly a beneath-the-hood architectural upgrade. http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/ "Taking a break from adding new features..."
That having been said, there's nothing on there about added security. I can tell you there are some rumors that things like more complete code page protection and address randomization will be in Snow Leo, but Apple's priorities concerning security are rather low; they rely heavily on security-through-obscurity, and one day if they're not careful it's going to bite them.
Is pathological addiction when you get lower than average grades, or is it when you sell your body for the next 15 minute rush from an illegal neurotransmitter mangler? I know a young lady who was addicted to crack for a while, ended up living in a crackhouse (and you can guess the rest) and she would probably object strenuously to the characterization of "pathological addiction" for low-school-grade getting because a kid spends time on a leisure activity instead of doing homework.
I hope this game isn't brought down by bullshit polarized moral choices too. Kill woman in house, don't lose karma. Steal her toaster though, lose karma. Post about it on slashdot, regain karma.
This is after the apocalypse. Nobody's making toasters anymore. Human life is cheap but toasters are priceless.
If making post-apocalyptic toast is more important than the repopulation of our species.
What's the difference? After a nuclear war, our species is toast!
In video games, evil basically translates to "killing everything I see for the pure psychopathic joy of it. There's almost never any real quality evil going on anymore, you either raze the village to the ground, or you save it from danger. There's no depth.
What about though if you destroy the village in order to save it? ;-)
Microsoft has long had a closed-source exploit finder that this article doesn't mention: "Microsoft Windows".
what they've believed their whole lives might actually not be true
Actually, I'd expect it to be the reverse. If I expected my eternal destiny to be judged upon death, I'd be pretty anxious to postpone my trial.
Well, I don't know if they surveyed Orthodox Jews, but although Orthodox Judaism doesn't mandate life-support, it does mandate that once life-support is given, it should not be withdrawn; unless the person no longer is breathing. (There is no halachic (Jewish law) concept of "brain death", unless you hold by the minority view of Rabbi Moshe Tendler, which is like that a bit.) So this is a different reason, since Jews don't tend to think they're headed for eternal hell (which is reserved for the very wicked in Jewish theology.)
Apple:iPod femto:... direct Neural interface..."
"Naysayers:Still no ogg..."
You sir, have written a classic.
I switched from Parallels Desktop to VirtualBox and it has one feature which I really like; the ability to run for over a week without causing a kernel panic. This was something the version of Parallels I paid for couldn't do. Apparently they messed up the IPI handling (doing something that was wrong but relatively harmless on the Core 1, and very bad on the Core 2), but the only way of 'fixing' the problem way to buy the next version of the product. Since I don't like paying for bug fixes, I never found out if the new version actually did fix the problem, but there's no way I'd give the company any money after that.
VMWare also has that feature of stability, and not having to pay for upgrades. (First hit is not free, however. ;-) ) Virtualbox is pretty good, but can't do stuff like run bootcamp partitions or graphics, and VMWare Fusion outperforms it and out-compatibles it. Other than that though, Virtualbox is a good choice if you don't want to pay about $60 for the privledge of virtualizing Windows or various other operating systems on your Mac. (Though unless you're running a server or deploying on Linux, I'm not sure what the attraction is for running Linux on a Mac; OS X *is* Unix under the hood after all and runs most of the Linux and BSD programs, even X11 if you like that kind of punishment. ;-) )
Then they should stop making statements about browsers being beyond operating system dependencies, it looks a bit hypocritical when your own browser is less cross-platform than IE.
If you read the reasons why they haven't made it cross platform yet, it is because the first version on Windows had a *lot* of (uneccesary IMHO) dependencies on Windows-specific OS libraries, which are possible to avoid if you're building something meant to be cross-platform from the start. Here's one post that gives only an eagle-eye view of how little Chrome was cross-platform: http://benjamin-meyer.blogspot.com/2008/11/status-of-chromium-on-linux.html Also, from an article in The Register, not even the HTTP implementation was build without using WinHTTP, necessitating they rewrite that entirely a second time. If cross-platform was a priority for Google, rather than just fighting IE, they would have tried a lot harder. The only parts of Chrome that were cross-platform are the parts Google didn't write. (That's a lot of stuff, but not near enough to make a working browser.)
How come it's Windows-only still if the browser is all that matters and the OS isn't, Google?
Actually, for the longest time, MS was going to move the Sidekick over to WinCE- they were even gearing up for it. Unfortunately, after many months of this (A year ago, in reality...), they have announced that they're doing it with a *BSD core and they're HIRING *BSD devs for it.
If you're doing what you're claiming, you don't spend 12 months doing it that way and then gear up for the other OS that you don't sell...doesn't look good to investors to spend 225 billion or so on someone to do something like this. ;-)
That's not all that looks bad for investors. WinMo 7 is coming out in 2010, a year behind schedule, which is an eternity with the Palm Pre coming out in 2009, Android gaining traction, and of course the iPhone and Blackberry all out-selling it with next-generation smartphones that are either iPhone-like or otherwise more stable and powerful devices than WinMo/WinCE.
Apple isn't even willing to allow an interpreted language on the iPhone. What makes you think they would be willing to relinquish control here?
Palm, OTOH, has loads of interpreted languages available for download from third-party websites for their PalmOS smartphones and PDAs. Everything from C compilers and Python to Lisp and Lua.List of PalmOS interpreted and compiled languages
Palm, incidentally, is the maker of the device, the Palm Pre, most likely to be affected by this patent. After the patent's granting, their stock fell quite a bit. Considering that they've basically bet the company on the Palm Pre, you can kiss them goodbye if this patent is enforced by Apple, as Tim Cook, temporary CEO, has threatened.
Seems as though the only people I know who actively choose Sprint choose it because Sprint is the only viable option where they live. The GSM carriers' coverage really starts to suffer in the big, wide-open spaces of the Midwest.
I chose them because they were the only carrier to allow me a data plan that was both relatively reasonable and didn't require a huge deposit. They also have excellent coverage here in New York.
My service on Sprint in Brooklyn was fine during the inauguration. I tried to watch it on Sprint TV via CNN and it failed to connect though, I did manage to get streaming audio from WNYC however and heard it all on the phone.
take a look at the amount of development and improvements in performance and reliability
Instead of looking at the duct tape Apple has been slapping on for 8 years, why don't we look at the architectural changes instead.
When you do, you will see my point explain itself.
Show me where Apple redesigned the audio system, driver mechanism, memory manager, introduced a new scheduler, replaced the network stack with newer technology, attached a new video driver model.
The network stack has been replaced with the one in FreeBSD, and the audio system has been redesigned, and the memory manager has undergone changes. Some of those other things haven't been changed as much as in Windows because they aren't as broken as Windows 9x was. You really don't know what you're talking about, do you. :-)
Heck even show me where Apple built a true '64bit' version of OS X, instead of a 32bit kernel architecture that allows applications to flag for 64bit memory addressing?
The kernel is 32 bit, but then we're talking about Mach, the microkernel, the rest of the OS is 64 bit, but supports 32 bit applications and drivers transparently. That is going to change in Snow Leopard. I think they've done a better job even than Linux at making a 64 bit transition, Apple has practice in making architectural transitions of this nature, going back to the 68K to PPC transition and others.
(Ask Adobe how the 64bit migration path they were promised is working out for them, since the only 64bit versions of their commercial software only runs on Vista x64 - a real 64bit OS.
Please, Adobe was told that Carbon was going to be phased out 8 years ago. Their choice to avoid doing things the NextStep way and relying on depreciated APIs from OS9 and earlier bit them. Most other software makers besides Adobe and Microsoft on OS X don't rely on Carbon, and if they did, made the transition.
Polishing the OS X 'apple' is what MS calls SPs, and Apple calls new OSes and changes $99 for...
And if you really want to get into this, we can start with Darwin, Apple's driver model, and work our way up to the STILL USED display postscript of the GUI that technically lags behind GDI+ of XP.
It depends upon what your technical criteria are. GDI+ isn't very portable. Display Postscript is more the historical Unix approach to the problem, such as NeWS.
Have you actually played with Snow Leopard - the first semi-64bit attempt of OS X? Seamless integration is not a word that comes to mind. It is more duct tape and some really scary failures in usability based on how Apple is trying to frankenstein the OS together. When a legacy 32bit applet requires the control panel application to restart in 32bit mode, there is a serious architectural design flaw in the OS itself.
When an operating system requires that old drivers be re-written and that many applications fail to work for their 64 bit versions of their operating systems; to the point that people still prefer their 32 bit operating systems, what do you call that? People in glass-(windows) houses shouldn't throw stones. ;-)
Being someone that actually worked with Darwin code and spent time with the Apple driver model (that had potential)
Considering your factual errors, I think this fact about your biography is as likely as the concept that there are women on slashdot. ;-) (Just kidding ladies, er, or whatever you're calling yourself!)
I personally use Vista more than 50% of the time for my personal computing, and this gives me power, as I don't love everything about it, and I can see the freaking flaws and I do scream at Microsoft. With enough people taking notice of 'crap', companies like Microsoft do listen, and it may shock Apple at first, but they will start to listen too when their u
There is still more difference between Windows7 and Vista than there is between OS X 10.0 and OS X 10.5 - yet I don't see people running around here calling OS X 10.x releases service packs.
I suggest you, since you obviously haven't run 10.0 through 10.5 of OS X, take a look at the amount of development and improvements in performance and reliability (with the possible exception of Leopard, which was mostly features and a much-needed interface cleanup, but Snow Leopard's supposed to fix Leopard) over it's lifetime. Compared to Windows 7, which is based very much on Vista with a bit of a more Mac-like interface, it is rediculous to claim that there's more differences between Windows 7 and Vista than between 10.0 OS X Cheetah 8 years ago and Leopard.
Unless by difference you mean Windows 7 might not suck eggs as much as Vista, I suppose that is a big difference of sorts, though not one to be proud of. ;-)
IMHO this is a damn sight better than SOME of the DRM employed by other companies which even lock out other operating systems (Windows MediaSlayer I'm looking at you)
It doesn't lock out other operating systems? What about anything besides MacOS and Windows?
Oh, I certainly don't wonder. I'm sure Blizzard has hired psychologists to figure out the optimal effort:reward ratio to keep people playing as long as possible. MMORPGs are designed to be addictive by people who understand in great detail how addictions work; that's why telling somebody to stop playing is about as effective as telling an alcoholic to stop drinking.
Although I don't think that it is fair to classify video games as an "addiction" rather than an obsession with most people who play them excessively (few people get as addicted as people do to substances) it is true that Sony Online Entertainment hired psychologists to help design Everquest, and I'm sure Blizzard has also.