The way Mozilla does windowing, it creates an invisible root window. You can see that it exists without expose by trying to apple-tab through pages. So far the developers have not found a way to redo the windowing system so that this invisble window is no longer necessary. Its been there since the NS 4.x days I think. I bet if you use FF 0.7 on a box with expose you'll see it there too.
HP and Compaq 64-bit laptops already exist (both found on hp.com). The guy in the office next to me has the Compaq one. I haven't been much of a fan of Compaq but that laptop is awesome (and $2000 with most of the options). Runs Linux like a champ, though if you get it with the built-in wireless card it'll only work in Windows.
I love when people make it sound like Apple has idiots writing their OS. First off, the Mac OS X works, and quite well at that. Secondly, I'm entirely sure they were advised by many, many people far more knowledgable than you. They probably have really good reasons for doing what they did, and it won't surprise anyone if you don't know what they are. If you're going to challenge Apple's kernel team that far with obviously uninformed conclusions, your audience can be found at a dive bar.
As if SuSE didn't do any work in exchange for your money? Or send you a physical product? How is that charity? Just because you could get it for free doesn't mean that paying for it is charity. Its more like a responsibility you're free to opt out of if you don't think its worth it.
For what its worth, compiling big things like KDE is usually a disk-bound process. That is - the speed of your hard drive is probably much more of a determining factor in your compile time than processor speed or amount of RAM (once you're above a certain certain modest level, which you passed a long time ago on a 2.4GHz/1GB RAM machine). That has been my experience anyway. I compile Mozilla quite often and that is definitely disk-bound. I use a pretty nice PowerBook with the fastest hard drive I could get in it at the time and my compile times are terrible compared to desktop machines due to the fact that I have to use a drive that is slimmed down for portables. I'd much rather use a machine with a slower processor and less RAM but a faster hard drive.
Yeah - anyone can ride it whenever they want. I have an English class in a room in Olin/Rice right next to the bike (and its "road"), and even my English professor rides it before class once in a while.
I am one of the Camino developers and we'd love to have your help. Here is where to find us:
1. IRC: irc.mozilla.org #camino
2. mozdev.org's Camino mailing list
3. bugzilla.mozilla.org
Don't forget about the Mozilla app suite and iCab - they also have their uses. If people are willing to put in the effort, I'll take all the choices I can get. Here's a list in my order of preference:
1. Camino (use a nightly, not 0.7) 2. Safari 3. Firefox 4. Mozilla app suite 5. OmniWeb 6. Opera 7. iCab
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Well, programmers on Mac OS X are just as capable of trashing your system like lots of Windows apps do (including the one this article is about). Care to explain why I can't even think of one app that does? Mac OS X has "a way," so it seems, that most applications conform to. Mac users have high expectations for the software they use and in turn developers strive to comply with "the way things out to be done" on Mac OS X. I suppose this could be called commanding respect. Use a Mac some time and you'll get what I'm saying.
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RealOne Player for Mac OS X is a sweet app. No prefs hijacking, looks good, works even better. I like it more than Apple's Quicktime Player. Perhaps there is just something about Mac OS X that commands respect from developers - Windows version of this same app sounds like a real POS.
I love it - mixing is really tough. Hell - beat matching on two turntables is tough. Taking two songs and putting them together is really difficult if you choose the songs for what songs they are instead of how their beats mesh. Most often when you hear two tracks mixed, they're mixed because their beats go together, not because the DJ wanted to hear those two specific songs together. The latter takes a lot more skill. DJ Danger chose to mix two records together because he wanted to hear them together - not because their beats are particularly close. He did a great job too - talented dude.
When talking about products targeted at individuals, I actually see a lot of IT value in the concept. A few years ago I was involved in a study to see why some firms experience failure rates that exceed 30 percent for laptop computers, and it came down to the fact that people simply were abusing their machines. If employees were given a product they were proud of as opposed to one purchased at a bargain basement piece, they took better care of it, particularly if they knew they could buy it after a reasonable two-year service life for a laptop computer.
That is an interesting concept. Not sure I would go for it since employees have the added factor that they didn't have to pay for the computer, and their getting to buy it after 2 years is a different solution altogether that might work just as well with any other machine. Still - it could work I suppose.
I like how at the top of the order customization page it still says "Dell recommends Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Professional," even though its not even a customization option on the N series.
Knoppix really is amazing. I didn't understand all the hype before, but after a glorious performance recovering files from a horked Windows box, I make sure I always have a Knoppix CD around. Whenever Windows threatens to waste my time, its Knoppix to the rescue. Also - not only is Knoppix really good at what it does, it looks great too! Its a great way to show off Linux.
When I read the press release on NEC's website, it contained so much marketing droid speech that any possibility of it actually containing an objective and truthful opinion went right out the window for me. Its really odd that with today's high-budget and super evolved marketing departments, they haven't realized that making something sound legit and unbiased (even if it is biased!) is probably much better advertising than making blatant plugs for yourself in a form of speech that is so often associated with pumped-up lies. If the marketing department looked for good writers instead of fluffy advertising and econ people this problem would be picked up on immediately.
This is pretty cool... They seem pretty open and they actually trust consumers while not allowing themselves to get screwed. For starters I'd recommend these bands from their site:
- Emma's Mini (rock)
- ABA STRUCTURE (electronica)
Not the best I've ever heard but I will buy it for the price suggested. I really like how you can pay as little as $5 but you have the option to pay more. Makes you feel good about dropping an extra buck or two because you know where its going (half to the artist, half to a good record label).
Would you take a brand new drive and start using it without reformatting it? Absolutely not. You're probably not going to try to boot off it either because if there wasn't an OS on it, why the hell would you do that? So since you're going to erase the drive anyway, you might as well erase Lindows because it won't take any longer than erasing nothing. You're not being forced to endure anything. I agree that capitalism is bombarding us with too much crap but think it through before you react.
Who cares if most people will wipe their drives? Some might not, and either way some people will find out about the existence of Lindows. I don't think Lindows is betting their company on this move, so there is no need to rip on them for being dumb. If a drive is going to ship, it might as well have something on it by default. And if its going to have something on it, why not Lindows? Seems like they got a deal, even though its not going to make a huge difference. I think this is a smart move, and props to Lindows being smart enough to do it. People are so anxious to call Lindows (the company) stupid that they are overreacting to a small move made by the company.
I've never been one of the people that scream when a dupe is posted (the other is still on the main page!), but this is frickin' ridiculous. It happens SO OFTEN. OSDN should dock Taco and them a week of pay every time they post a dupe, two weeks if the other story is still on the main page. I realize it isn't 'pro' news source like NYT or CNN but there are 7th graders geeks that could avoid posting the same story twice in 24 hours...
When I look at Apple's benchmarks and listen to the words straight from Steve Jobs' mouth, it becomes pretty clear that the reason Safari isn't a piece of crap is because Chimera gave Apple something to shoot for. If Safari only had to compete with IE, Apple could have released something a while ago.
I think Apple's new browser is great, but its not for me. I still use Chimera because its much more practical. There is a lot of room for improvement (build on the 1.2 branch!), and I don't think giving up is the answer. Chimera has pushed Safari to be what is is today, and now is not the time to stop upping the standards for available web browsers.
"ASCI Purple will be built using 12,544 IBM Power5 microprocessors, the same chips that are used in Apple PCs"
I hate to add to this worn out rumor, but one can't help but wonder who knows more and who is just making things up... Mmmm... Power5 Apple. I don't know exactly what that would be like but I'm pretty sure I'd want it.
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The way Mozilla does windowing, it creates an invisible root window. You can see that it exists without expose by trying to apple-tab through pages. So far the developers have not found a way to redo the windowing system so that this invisble window is no longer necessary. Its been there since the NS 4.x days I think. I bet if you use FF 0.7 on a box with expose you'll see it there too.
HP and Compaq 64-bit laptops already exist (both found on hp.com). The guy in the office next to me has the Compaq one. I haven't been much of a fan of Compaq but that laptop is awesome (and $2000 with most of the options). Runs Linux like a champ, though if you get it with the built-in wireless card it'll only work in Windows.
I love when people make it sound like Apple has idiots writing their OS. First off, the Mac OS X works, and quite well at that. Secondly, I'm entirely sure they were advised by many, many people far more knowledgable than you. They probably have really good reasons for doing what they did, and it won't surprise anyone if you don't know what they are. If you're going to challenge Apple's kernel team that far with obviously uninformed conclusions, your audience can be found at a dive bar.
As if SuSE didn't do any work in exchange for your money? Or send you a physical product? How is that charity? Just because you could get it for free doesn't mean that paying for it is charity. Its more like a responsibility you're free to opt out of if you don't think its worth it.
For what its worth, compiling big things like KDE is usually a disk-bound process. That is - the speed of your hard drive is probably much more of a determining factor in your compile time than processor speed or amount of RAM (once you're above a certain certain modest level, which you passed a long time ago on a 2.4GHz/1GB RAM machine). That has been my experience anyway. I compile Mozilla quite often and that is definitely disk-bound. I use a pretty nice PowerBook with the fastest hard drive I could get in it at the time and my compile times are terrible compared to desktop machines due to the fact that I have to use a drive that is slimmed down for portables. I'd much rather use a machine with a slower processor and less RAM but a faster hard drive.
Yeah - anyone can ride it whenever they want. I have an English class in a room in Olin/Rice right next to the bike (and its "road"), and even my English professor rides it before class once in a while.
I am one of the Camino developers and we'd love to have your help. Here is where to find us: 1. IRC: irc.mozilla.org #camino 2. mozdev.org's Camino mailing list 3. bugzilla.mozilla.org
Don't forget about the Mozilla app suite and iCab - they also have their uses. If people are willing to put in the effort, I'll take all the choices I can get. Here's a list in my order of preference:
1. Camino (use a nightly, not 0.7)
2. Safari
3. Firefox
4. Mozilla app suite
5. OmniWeb
6. Opera
7. iCab
Well, programmers on Mac OS X are just as capable of trashing your system like lots of Windows apps do (including the one this article is about). Care to explain why I can't even think of one app that does? Mac OS X has "a way," so it seems, that most applications conform to. Mac users have high expectations for the software they use and in turn developers strive to comply with "the way things out to be done" on Mac OS X. I suppose this could be called commanding respect. Use a Mac some time and you'll get what I'm saying.
RealOne Player for Mac OS X is a sweet app. No prefs hijacking, looks good, works even better. I like it more than Apple's Quicktime Player. Perhaps there is just something about Mac OS X that commands respect from developers - Windows version of this same app sounds like a real POS.
I love it - mixing is really tough. Hell - beat matching on two turntables is tough. Taking two songs and putting them together is really difficult if you choose the songs for what songs they are instead of how their beats mesh. Most often when you hear two tracks mixed, they're mixed because their beats go together, not because the DJ wanted to hear those two specific songs together. The latter takes a lot more skill. DJ Danger chose to mix two records together because he wanted to hear them together - not because their beats are particularly close. He did a great job too - talented dude.
And you thought there were a lot of viruses and known security problems around already... just wait (if this is true).
When talking about products targeted at individuals, I actually see a lot of IT value in the concept. A few years ago I was involved in a study to see why some firms experience failure rates that exceed 30 percent for laptop computers, and it came down to the fact that people simply were abusing their machines. If employees were given a product they were proud of as opposed to one purchased at a bargain basement piece, they took better care of it, particularly if they knew they could buy it after a reasonable two-year service life for a laptop computer.
That is an interesting concept. Not sure I would go for it since employees have the added factor that they didn't have to pay for the computer, and their getting to buy it after 2 years is a different solution altogether that might work just as well with any other machine. Still - it could work I suppose.
I like how at the top of the order customization page it still says "Dell recommends Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Professional," even though its not even a customization option on the N series.
Knoppix really is amazing. I didn't understand all the hype before, but after a glorious performance recovering files from a horked Windows box, I make sure I always have a Knoppix CD around. Whenever Windows threatens to waste my time, its Knoppix to the rescue. Also - not only is Knoppix really good at what it does, it looks great too! Its a great way to show off Linux.
"I'm thinking, ok, the Postal Service is supposed to be a government agency right?" Wrong. Its a business like Fedex or UPS.
When I read the press release on NEC's website, it contained so much marketing droid speech that any possibility of it actually containing an objective and truthful opinion went right out the window for me. Its really odd that with today's high-budget and super evolved marketing departments, they haven't realized that making something sound legit and unbiased (even if it is biased!) is probably much better advertising than making blatant plugs for yourself in a form of speech that is so often associated with pumped-up lies. If the marketing department looked for good writers instead of fluffy advertising and econ people this problem would be picked up on immediately.
- Emma's Mini (rock)
Not the best I've ever heard but I will buy it for the price suggested. I really like how you can pay as little as $5 but you have the option to pay more. Makes you feel good about dropping an extra buck or two because you know where its going (half to the artist, half to a good record label).- ABA STRUCTURE (electronica)
Would you take a brand new drive and start using it without reformatting it? Absolutely not. You're probably not going to try to boot off it either because if there wasn't an OS on it, why the hell would you do that? So since you're going to erase the drive anyway, you might as well erase Lindows because it won't take any longer than erasing nothing. You're not being forced to endure anything. I agree that capitalism is bombarding us with too much crap but think it through before you react.
Who cares if most people will wipe their drives? Some might not, and either way some people will find out about the existence of Lindows. I don't think Lindows is betting their company on this move, so there is no need to rip on them for being dumb. If a drive is going to ship, it might as well have something on it by default. And if its going to have something on it, why not Lindows? Seems like they got a deal, even though its not going to make a huge difference. I think this is a smart move, and props to Lindows being smart enough to do it. People are so anxious to call Lindows (the company) stupid that they are overreacting to a small move made by the company.
I've never been one of the people that scream when a dupe is posted (the other is still on the main page!), but this is frickin' ridiculous. It happens SO OFTEN. OSDN should dock Taco and them a week of pay every time they post a dupe, two weeks if the other story is still on the main page. I realize it isn't 'pro' news source like NYT or CNN but there are 7th graders geeks that could avoid posting the same story twice in 24 hours...
Thank God Steve Jobs is a vegan...
Must be a rich kid school...
When I look at Apple's benchmarks and listen to the words straight from Steve Jobs' mouth, it becomes pretty clear that the reason Safari isn't a piece of crap is because Chimera gave Apple something to shoot for. If Safari only had to compete with IE, Apple could have released something a while ago.
I think Apple's new browser is great, but its not for me. I still use Chimera because its much more practical. There is a lot of room for improvement (build on the 1.2 branch!), and I don't think giving up is the answer. Chimera has pushed Safari to be what is is today, and now is not the time to stop upping the standards for available web browsers.
"ASCI Purple will be built using 12,544 IBM Power5 microprocessors, the same chips that are used in Apple PCs"
I hate to add to this worn out rumor, but one can't help but wonder who knows more and who is just making things up... Mmmm... Power5 Apple. I don't know exactly what that would be like but I'm pretty sure I'd want it.