but i know that certain types of body armor are illegal in california. find some good body armor, wear it, then walk into a cop-shop in california. you will be charged with a felony. while i dont know from personal experience, try it, i'll betcha you dont leave happy.
me again, i should have mentioned. its not nazi-ism, communism, hard capitalism, or anything extreme like that. just a forum which all types congregate. i would post it here, but im not a whore and dont need hits. still i get death threats. glad im not legally required to put my real name, address, and phone on a WHOIS.
as it stands, 1st of all, it is _not_ illegal to use fake WHOIS records, even under the provisions of the legislature being discussed. All this does is to add jail time (up to 7 years according to the wording of the bill) to those that then go on to use the fraudulent domain for spamming,fraud,con activities. It just makes the punishment for those that are already doing illegal things worse.
i run an internationally political website, and if I used my real name, phone, address, etc, I would have been physically attacked, at best. This law does not affect me in any way as I am not doing any fraud, spam, con-games, nigerian emails, or what have you.
I would add that other laws that have been struck down HAVE made what I am doing illegal, fortunately nothing like that has stuck. In summary, the discussed law is not a problem for anyone, as long as they are not spammers, fraudsters, nigerians, etc.
Agreed, its a step in the wrong direction. But as for now, as long as you are not engaged in other illegal activities, you (should not) dont have to worry.
this merely adds penalties onto already illegal activities if you fake your WHOIS records.
"Yeah, Google has the don't be evil thing going on so they would never do something like that.."
agreed, however, if they ever become beholden to stockholders, that could all change in a heartbeat. (old man voice) I remember back when Real (as in realplayer,.ram) wasn't evil. That changed pretty quickly into adware, spyware, et al.
"Everyone else changes there browsers to identify as the google brower when they access google, is the theoretical answer to that question."
yes. but as has been proven before, there are more ways than one to identify a browser, than just the identification string. I can set my firefox to claim that it is IE, yet windowsupdate.microsoft.com still does not work. I know the reasons for that, but its not the only example I could give. If google wanted to only allow googlebrowsers and IE, they most certainly would be able to do that.
Lets say google releases a browser, and it kicks ass.
Then, lets say 6 months later, google only allows the googlebrowser and IE to access google.com (with a deal where MS pays google big bucks). Lets assume google still dominates, it could be 2+ years before a viable alternative exists.
Yes, that is a lot of what-ifs. And given google's past actions, I doubt anything like that will come to pass. However, with google's recent public stock offering, who knows. Stranger things happen daily in the business world.
So the question is, would you stick to firefox? Myself, I wouldnt like it, but I would prolly switch to the googlebrowser.
I have a few telco friends and work with the stuff myself from time to time. The rest of the time im a programmer. Anyhoo, I figure the phone system is a time proven technology, and the internet is too subject to viruses, worms, DOSs, and all of that.
While Im sure a few here could provide a counterexample here or there, a telco hub doesn't get DOS'ed or wormed, in general. Even 'hacking' one a la 'captain crunch' doesnt generally bring down the system.
Maybe in a bit when the internet has less holes and is, in general, faster. Then it might be viable. But to Joe Sixpack and your grandmother, the internet (and by extension their own computer) has problems, whereas their phone 'just works'.
The material used in this particular weapon is Pu-239. Pu-239 has a half-life of 24,100 years. That means that this device is and will be a hot-potato for much longer than you or I will be debating this subject.
If you can take a picture of yourself smoking a pipe, with a safari hat on, resting your feet on a bearskin rug... and in the background is the head of a spammer mounted on the wall, well then...
That is the most laughing I have ever done in my 4+ years on slashdot. This post should be a (+12) funny. Damn. Im still chuckling. Thanks, anonymous AC.
i bet they were putting up flyers on public and private space where they were not allowed. similar to spam.
the end user ends up paying for it. again...
and back in that era, for someone to put up a public message probably would make the average joe think of it as a valid message. this would be before emails and phones, and in some cases, the postal services. A message on the town hall would probably carry some weight, just because someone took the time to put it there. it would require more resources than today's spammers, but because there is a profit to be made, it would have been done.
"It would be really a surprise if they sent spam by email 100 years ago. Don't you think?!"
Whatever. Im no historian, just a hobby, but I bet you could find examples of spam long before that.
Easiest example, I bet snake oil salesmen in the 1800s would plaster houses and public business with flyers promoting their wares.
Even before that, I wouldn't doubt that dubious marketing practices have existed since recorded history. Ever since money has changed hands, annoying marketing has existed.
I started on mainframes. I got really good on mainframes.
I dont think there is anything inherently wrong with one model or the other, as long as it is implemented properly.
but from a sysadmin perspective, a properly set up mainframe is easier to administer, from what i have seen.
give the users PCs for their email and whatnot, but from a data entry/usability viewpoint, my users are far more productive on their terminal emulators.
references: If you get a traffic ticket in minnesota, the data goes into my mainframe system. of course tickets are scanned, then barcoded/OCRd, then automatically entered, requiring non-mainframe systems. but for retrieval and court-entered systems, its all mainframe.
i do recognize that a non-mainframe system might work just as well if implemented correctly. however, you would need several more admins.
"It lets you enter keywords in the browser address bar, and when Google decides this is a sure bet you will be directly forwarded to the right page."
Google hacking will be really damn funny. Just imagine, say, for 6 months, people get used to typing 'update windows' in their address bar. Then, some google hacker figures out a way to suddenly spike the value of some other site somehow to include 'update windows' as the first choice. Hopefully not to goatse.
i've heard people say this before... but isnt slashcode open source? one should be able to go check into that. i suppose i could check myself, but im lazy.
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i dont know about lock picks
but i know that certain types of body armor are illegal in california. find some good body armor, wear it, then walk into a cop-shop in california. you will be charged with a felony. while i dont know from personal experience, try it, i'll betcha you dont leave happy.
"i run an internationally political website"
me again, i should have mentioned. its not nazi-ism, communism, hard capitalism, or anything extreme like that. just a forum which all types congregate. i would post it here, but im not a whore and dont need hits. still i get death threats. glad im not legally required to put my real name, address, and phone on a WHOIS.
as it stands, 1st of all, it is _not_ illegal to use fake WHOIS records, even under the provisions of the legislature being discussed. All this does is to add jail time (up to 7 years according to the wording of the bill) to those that then go on to use the fraudulent domain for spamming,fraud,con activities. It just makes the punishment for those that are already doing illegal things worse.
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i run an internationally political website, and if I used my real name, phone, address, etc, I would have been physically attacked, at best. This law does not affect me in any way as I am not doing any fraud, spam, con-games, nigerian emails, or what have you.
I would add that other laws that have been struck down HAVE made what I am doing illegal, fortunately nothing like that has stuck. In summary, the discussed law is not a problem for anyone, as long as they are not spammers, fraudsters, nigerians, etc.
Agreed, its a step in the wrong direction. But as for now, as long as you are not engaged in other illegal activities, you (should not) dont have to worry.
this merely adds penalties onto already illegal activities if you fake your WHOIS records.
I am not a lawyer, but I play one on
"Yeah, Google has the don't be evil thing going on so they would never do something like that.."
.ram) wasn't evil. That changed pretty quickly into adware, spyware, et al.
agreed, however, if they ever become beholden to stockholders, that could all change in a heartbeat. (old man voice) I remember back when Real (as in realplayer,
"Everyone else changes there browsers to identify as the google brower when they access google, is the theoretical answer to that question."
yes. but as has been proven before, there are more ways than one to identify a browser, than just the identification string. I can set my firefox to claim that it is IE, yet windowsupdate.microsoft.com still does not work. I know the reasons for that, but its not the only example I could give. If google wanted to only allow googlebrowsers and IE, they most certainly would be able to do that.
Ned asks "Will google launch a browser?"
Reverend Lovejoy responds: "...ooooh short answer yes with an if, long answer no with a but..."
Lets say google releases a browser, and it kicks ass.
Then, lets say 6 months later, google only allows the googlebrowser and IE to access google.com (with a deal where MS pays google big bucks). Lets assume google still dominates, it could be 2+ years before a viable alternative exists.
Yes, that is a lot of what-ifs. And given google's past actions, I doubt anything like that will come to pass. However, with google's recent public stock offering, who knows. Stranger things happen daily in the business world.
So the question is, would you stick to firefox? Myself, I wouldnt like it, but I would prolly switch to the googlebrowser.
Just a theoretical question.
thats what I always figured would happen.
I have a few telco friends and work with the stuff myself from time to time. The rest of the time im a programmer. Anyhoo, I figure the phone system is a time proven technology, and the internet is too subject to viruses, worms, DOSs, and all of that.
While Im sure a few here could provide a counterexample here or there, a telco hub doesn't get DOS'ed or wormed, in general. Even 'hacking' one a la 'captain crunch' doesnt generally bring down the system.
Maybe in a bit when the internet has less holes and is, in general, faster. Then it might be viable. But to Joe Sixpack and your grandmother, the internet (and by extension their own computer) has problems, whereas their phone 'just works'.
"There's more than plutonium in a nuke. I'm sure the other components in the warhead are unusuable."
you are right, sir. still, I wouldn't want to be standing next to it.
but you are right, the triggers are probably far more likely to degrade than the actual material.
The material used in this particular weapon is Pu-239. Pu-239 has a half-life of 24,100 years. That means that this device is and will be a hot-potato for much longer than you or I will be debating this subject.
into a (-1, Redundant)
"If I knew someone who was spamming, I'd turn them in for free."
9 22 8418"
"http://www.freeipods.com/default.aspx?referer=
really?
and you offer a gmail invite as a reward for clicking on your link?
Well I know one person you could turn in, for free, since you said cash is just a bonus. Yourself.
you could make a start by not offering free ipod crap.
If you can take a picture of yourself smoking a pipe, with a safari hat on, resting your feet on a bearskin rug... and in the background is the head of a spammer mounted on the wall, well then...
I will send some money towards _that_ bounty!
That is the most laughing I have ever done in my 4+ years on slashdot. This post should be a (+12) funny. Damn. Im still chuckling. Thanks, anonymous AC.
I see your point
but again with the snake oil salesman example
i bet they were putting up flyers on public and private space where they were not allowed. similar to spam.
the end user ends up paying for it. again...
and back in that era, for someone to put up a public message probably would make the average joe think of it as a valid message. this would be before emails and phones, and in some cases, the postal services. A message on the town hall would probably carry some weight, just because someone took the time to put it there. it would require more resources than today's spammers, but because there is a profit to be made, it would have been done.
just saying.
"It would be really a surprise if they sent spam by email 100 years ago. Don't you think?!"
Whatever. Im no historian, just a hobby, but I bet you could find examples of spam long before that.
Easiest example, I bet snake oil salesmen in the 1800s would plaster houses and public business with flyers promoting their wares.
Even before that, I wouldn't doubt that dubious marketing practices have existed since recorded history. Ever since money has changed hands, annoying marketing has existed.
I started on mainframes. I got really good on mainframes.
I dont think there is anything inherently wrong with one model or the other, as long as it is implemented properly.
but from a sysadmin perspective, a properly set up mainframe is easier to administer, from what i have seen.
give the users PCs for their email and whatnot, but from a data entry/usability viewpoint, my users are far more productive on their terminal emulators.
references: If you get a traffic ticket in minnesota, the data goes into my mainframe system. of course tickets are scanned, then barcoded/OCRd, then automatically entered, requiring non-mainframe systems. but for retrieval and court-entered systems, its all mainframe.
i do recognize that a non-mainframe system might work just as well if implemented correctly. however, you would need several more admins.
hey, that really is very clever. methinks someone has found a really good way around the slashdot methods of destroying trolls.
now what needs to be done to slashdot is that they need to figure out how to differentiate between gmail and google...
now they have a linux distro with clippy
yay.
feeling lucky never works for me.
its usually the third link or so that has what i want.
in fact, if one could reroute -im feeling lucky- to the third link, i'd probably be better off.
i would capitalize properly, but my left shift key is broken, and im too lazy to use the right shift.
fun with google
"It lets you enter keywords in the browser address bar, and when Google decides this is a sure bet you will be directly forwarded to the right page."
Google hacking will be really damn funny. Just imagine, say, for 6 months, people get used to typing 'update windows' in their address bar. Then, some google hacker figures out a way to suddenly spike the value of some other site somehow to include 'update windows' as the first choice. Hopefully not to goatse.
other fun things to do with google
clicky
i've heard people say this before... but isnt slashcode open source? one should be able to go check into that. i suppose i could check myself, but im lazy.
I dont know. I think I just had some trouble I had to get out of my system, honestly.
I would say that if I had more access to computers, I probably would have wasted my time doing that, instead of getting into trouble...
I dunno, find a hobby maybe. One that does not involve illegality.