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New Google Toolbar Brings Browse By Name

Philipp Lenssen writes "The newest release of the Google Toolbar (Internet Explorer only) comes with a Browse by Name feature. It lets you enter keywords in the browser address bar, and when Google decides this is a sure bet you will be directly forwarded to the right page. Is this the return of Internet Keywords?"

340 comments

  1. Appears to work well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I typed in "buggy insecure browser" and it took me here.

    1. Re:Appears to work well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Firefox has the exact same feature only it uses the address bar. Type "Microsoft Home Page" and get the MS home page. For the example above, it takes you to an IE SP1 download page hosted by download.com, which is also pretty funny and accurate.

    2. Re:Appears to work well by Senjutsu · · Score: 2, Funny

      No joke, I just tried that with firefox, and it took me to a download page for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1.

    3. Re:Appears to work well by Red+Alastor · · Score: 1

      It is simply a shortcut to Google's "I am lucky!". I guess that this is also how this new function works.

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    4. Re:Appears to work well by Frankie70 · · Score: 3, Funny


      No joke, I just tried that with firefox, and it took me to a download page for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1.


      Yes - at download.com

      Typing "Miserable failure" in firefox also takes you to the Whitehouse website.

    5. Re:Appears to work well by Choron · · Score: 5, Informative

      Keywords are enabled by default in Firefox but you can easily disable them.

      - Type about:config in the URL field
      - Look for the keyword.enabled line and double-click it
      - Replace "True" with "False"

      Et voila !

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    6. Re:Appears to work well by Greg+K+Nicholson · · Score: 0

      Typing the same into Firefox's location bar, or I'm-Feeling-Lucky-ing it from google.co.uk, leads to http://www.download.com/3302-2356_4-10148260.html? pn=2&fb=0 - Google's search technology is good.

    7. Re:Appears to work well by hpavc · · Score: 1

      you would think the whitehouse would redirect those to kerry just to get rid of that joke's punchline

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    8. Re:Appears to work well by Alien+Being · · Score: 3, Funny

      Type what? Is there an icon for it? Is it the one with the guy who's head is stuck up his ass? Wait, I think i see it... nope that's for the dancing paperclip... this is too hard.. the fucker's going beep-beep-beep... I'm buying a mac.

    9. Re:Appears to work well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I used to be able to do stuff like "dict reprobate" or "google ultra scsi 320" --- but not now. Why? (firefox)

    10. Re:Appears to work well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try searching google for "1" and you'll get the better browser :)

    11. Re:Appears to work well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried "secure browser" and got this:

      http://www.tropsoft.com/secbrowser/

      Does anyone know if its any good?

    12. Re:Appears to work well by balster+neb · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hah, that's nothing. Typing "shit", "cat vomit" or "brain damaging color scheme" always brings me here. :)

    13. Re:Appears to work well by russint · · Score: 1

      Heh, first result when i tried the firefox googlebar: http://www.download.com/3302-2356_4-10148260.html? pn=2&fb=0/

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    14. Re:Appears to work well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You should be able to configure these in the bookmark manager. So you set the location of the bookmark to "http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=%s", and the keyword to "dict", then another bookmark to "http://www.google.com/search?&q=%s", and keyword to "google". I have this set up to do stock ticker lookup, ups/fedex tracking, amazon search, imdb search, and so on. This is by far one of my favorite browser features.

    15. Re:Appears to work well by epsalon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Update: "failure" is enough.

    16. Re:Appears to work well by stephanruby · · Score: 2, Informative
      (Internet Explorer only)

      It's not an "Internet Explorer only" thing. Mozilla FireBird has this by default.

      I type "slashdot" and I automatically get slashdot.org. I type "slasdot" and I still automatically get slashdot.org. And that's going through google, not my history (assuming my history is cleared).

    17. Re:Appears to work well by Ckwop · · Score: 1

      Most of you thought this was funny when it's actually informative :)

      Check it out!

      Simon

    18. Re:Appears to work well by JavaPriest · · Score: 1

      Nobody knows it. That's why it is so secure...

    19. Re:Appears to work well by anti-trojan · · Score: 2, Informative

      It is easier now with FireFox. Just right click any form field and choose "Add a keyword for this search...". It automatically creates the bookmark (with %s and all) and assigns the keyword. This method even seems to work with POST searches as well...

    20. Re:Appears to work well by Air-conditioned+cowh · · Score: 1

      Firefox has a similar link-up with Google. Just type "buggy inscure browser" in the URL bar and it takes you to this page.

      It seems fromt the reviews that the punters are very impressed with the product.

    21. Re:Appears to work well by Bert64 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The google toolbar is IE only, it attempts to implement missing features into IE that firefox already has.

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    22. Re:Appears to work well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I sincerely do not know who is still modding these coments funny. Microsoft bashing may still have a few points where it can show some originality or insightfullness(not that I support it) but this is just repeated crap. Seriously now - this is going too far. Any article I read has these idiotic posts, I think I will spend all the modpoints I get from now on for modding redundant.

    23. Re:Appears to work well by John+Betonschaar · · Score: 1

      Strange... Firefox takes me here.

      Please research these things before you post and don't just go out bashing MS without constructive evidence!! ;-)

      sigs are overrated

    24. Re:Appears to work well by Gildor · · Score: 0

      Right, because I'm *sure* that the vast Googlebomb conspiracy is high on their list of priorities.

      I'd be surprised if they're even aware of it

      ;)

    25. Re:Appears to work well by bcmm · · Score: 1

      Try "Bastards".

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    26. Re:Appears to work well by brycenut · · Score: 1

      Yup, I doubted it, and just had to try it. Leads right to CNET's IE6 SP1 download page.

  2. lucky by dirvish · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So...it goes to the I'm Feeling Lucky link?

    1. Re:lucky by trauma · · Score: 5, Informative

      I downloaded this thing about a week ago after a format, and without having performed any rigorous testing my impression is that it takes me directly to a page *only* if the URL comprises my search terms. So it's much more selective than "i'm feeling lucky".

      To take a (random) example, typing "harman kardon" takes me to harmankardon.com. However, typing "harman kardon amplifiers" takes me to a standard search results page. Same thing with "mazda" vs "mazda trucks".

      So IMHO it ends up being a rather benign little time-saver.

    2. Re:lucky by Dr+Tall · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If that's the case, this will only serve to inflame the domain war disputes. Does Visa have more of a point about registering Visa.com if Google won't even display the credit card company on a search for "Visa"?

    3. Re:lucky by FFFish · · Score: 1

      So it's like Opera, then, were the name I type into the addressbar is run through www.x.com, .net, .org, .edu, .ca, .bc.ca, and whatever else I care to configure in...

      (it'll also cycle variations in lieu of www, 'cept that afaik, there aren't any really common ones. I guess perhaps I could add sourceforge to the list.0

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    4. Re:lucky by trauma · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Oddly enough, typing "visa" went to a standard search results page when I tried it just now. Of course visa.com was the first link displayed (aside from the links promoting google's news service), but still that's interesting. I wonder what the actual mechanism is.

    5. Re:lucky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually this one bit me earlier today - I was trying to find the shared object version of mcrypt, so I typed mcrypt.so into the searchbox... and got a 404'ed page. Unhelpful!

    6. Re:lucky by nidx · · Score: 1

      actually it dosent care about the actuall url ... try leo lapporte - it brings you straight to leoville ....

    7. Re:lucky by LnxAddct · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Firefox has had this for a while. Anyone running firefox (I'm running 0.9.3) type "New York Times" in the url bar and hit enter, it puts you at www.nytimes.com. It just takes you to the I'm Feeling lucky link, but it comes in handy.
      Regards,
      Steve

    8. Re:lucky by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 1

      Hmm... I'm using Firefox 0.9.3 and when I typed "New York Times" in the URL bar, I got an error window which said "The URL is not valid and cannot be loaded." I'm using the Windows version -- does that matter?

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    9. Re:lucky by Tyreth · · Score: 1

      I've been doing this for a while in konqueror. Had it set up so that if I type, for example, 'slashdot' in the address bar it would use google's "I'm feeling lucky". Worked like a charm for most of the major sites I visit.

    10. Re:lucky by Ravadill · · Score: 1

      Hmm it's worked for me in Windows since quite a few versions before 0.9.3, you haven't done any config editing or run one of those firefox "optimizer" programs? Type about:config in the address bar, goto keyword.enabled and make sure it's set to true

    11. Re:lucky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Works fine here, 093 and WXP. Maybe you have an extension installed that is fucking with it or something.

    12. Re:lucky by mattkinabrewmindspri · · Score: 1

      Did you type "New York Times" or "N.Y. Times"? The error you got is the error Firefox gives if there's a period in the text you type.

    13. Re:lucky by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

      Want an example? Try "seaislandgeorgia"... even in your address bar. Likely you'll find my page.

    14. Re:lucky by stephanruby · · Score: 1
      Not if you're in firefbird. I typed "visa" and I automatically got visa.com without going through the search page.

      I assume it's completely based on the popularity of the link. The more people link to it, the more likely people are actually trying to search for that page.

    15. Re:lucky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But oddly enough, "Karma Hardon" takes me to slashdot comments.

  3. address bar by penguinoid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thanks, but I much prefer to use my address bar for my google searches.

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  4. great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    google is becoming just like aol.

  5. Is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not really sure what the big deal is. Feeling lucky will do the same thing.

    Plus IE only with Google and Microsoft sure to go head-to-head soon? Not sure about the wisdom of this decision...

  6. Is this the return of Internet Keywords? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this the return of Internet Keywords?

    perhaps, until some people do some google whacking to get goatse to come up if someone enters slashdot

  7. Coming soon: by Neil+Blender · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Keywords for sale.

    1. Re:Coming soon: by MarkGriz · · Score: 1

      Be there, done that.

      Anyone remember RealNames? Me neither.

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    2. Re:Coming soon: by Neil+Blender · · Score: 1

      Be there, done that.

      Anyone remember RealNames? Me neither.


      Anyone remember Adwords?

    3. Re:Coming soon: by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why is anyone who likens this to AOL, or mentions that Google (now a publically traded corporation) might use this as a source of profit getting modded down as troll or flamebait?

      Hell, you should be modded redundant. Of COURSE google will sell keywords.

      When it comes time to show numbers to investors, all their lovey-dovey altruistic bullshit will be forgotten.

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    4. Re:Coming soon: by dswensen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why is anyone who likens this to AOL, or mentions that Google (now a publically traded corporation) might use this as a source of profit getting modded down as troll or flamebait?

      The same reason cynical, knee-jerk, anti-corporate pessimism regularly gets modded Insightful?

    5. Re:Coming soon: by taylortbb · · Score: 1

      How certain are you? Google has specifically created a policy that says they will NOT adjust search rankings for profit. I think the keywords wouldn't be any different.

      Google has a motto "Don't be evil", and I think they might actually be able to stick to it.

    6. Re:Coming soon: by nwbvt · · Score: 1

      What "lovey-dovey altruistic bullshit"? Google has been a company looking for profit since the start.

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    7. Re:Coming soon: by Fuzzle · · Score: 1

      Except for the fact that the investors have no input into the decision making process. All of that power was left to the original founders.

    8. Re:Coming soon: by Gopal.V · · Score: 1

      They already have Adwords.

    9. Re:Coming soon: by stephanruby · · Score: 1
      Hell, you should be modded redundant. Of COURSE google will sell keywords.

      If that happens, the people who installed this toolbar will install another toolbar from another search engine. This is not like buying a Windows machine where the search page is there by default. The people who first switched to Google will be the first ones to switch away from Google.

    10. Re:Coming soon: by HeghmoH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When it comes time to show numbers to investors, all their lovey-dovey altruistic bullshit will be forgotten.

      That "bullshit" is the entire reason Google is the 500-pound gorilla of search. They are the only search company anybody cares about precisely because they don't let money interfere with their search; ironically, this allows them to make more money. The investors won't try to screw the customer at all costs, they will want whatever makes more money, and Google has proven that not screwing the customer can win.

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    11. Re:Coming soon: by Mant · · Score: 1

      Except most of the shares are in the hands of the poeple who always used to run the complany, particualry the voting shares.

      I don't think being publicly traded will make much difference until a much larger percentage of the shares are held outside the company.

    12. Re:Coming soon: by maxchaote · · Score: 1

      When it comes time to show numbers to investors, all their lovey-dovey altruistic bullshit will be forgotten.

      Yes, but Google's investors have no voting rights, so what do they care? They're going to do what brings them the most money, and so far that's been by being lovey-dovey and altruistic.

    13. Re:Coming soon: by True+Grit · · Score: 1

      Ahh, now both posts are "Insightful", so the harmony of the universe is now restored.

  8. You mean... by keiferb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Like firefox's address bar already does? Type in a word or phrase and hit enter and you're directed to the equivalent of an "I'm feeling lucky" search on whatever you typed.

    1. Re:You mean... by jdkane · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, it's nice to see IE is finally catching up ... the slow but happy kid of the bunch.

    2. Re:You mean... by Atrax · · Score: 4, Funny

      > Well, it's nice to see IE is finally catching up

      yeah, but it's not IE catching up. it's a third-party addon, not the IE team suddenly adding a (very useful hassle saving) feature.

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    3. Re:You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IE team? IE has a team? i thought it was one man in a cupboard being fed bread and water for the last 5 years.

    4. Re:You mean... by terranlune · · Score: 5, Informative

      You could actually do this in IE as well by merging the values below into the registry:

      [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchUrl]
      "provider"=""

      [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchUrl\g]
      @="http://www.google.com/se arch?q=%s&btnG=Google+S earch"
      " "="+"
      "#"="%23"
      "&"="%26"
      "?"="%3F"
      "+"="%2B"
      "="="%3D"

      I've been using this built-in support in both browsers for years...

    5. Re:You mean... by The-Bus · · Score: 1

      My thoughts exactly. I've had this ability for month's now. It's good to just type history of marie antoinette and come up to a relevant page. In fact, it's dangerous because it's not Google-branded and you could just not know it's actually Google doing the search.

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    6. Re:You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey. he has feelings. let him have his "team" plaque.

    7. Re:You mean... by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Actually, if you read over other comments, it appears that it is not just a quick way to get to the 'I'm Feeling Lucky' link, it only takes you to that page if it matches really well or something, as it sometimes goes to the actual Google search.

    8. Re:You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there really an IE team? I mean, like a bunch of people sitting around doing nothing for years? Surely not.

    9. Re:You mean... by Shinglor · · Score: 1

      Wow, that's awesome. I never even knew about that feature.

    10. Re:You mean... by zeath · · Score: 1

      I learned something interesting last night. I typed in www/mapquest.com by accident. It sent me to Yahoo. After a few minutes of sheer confusion and a bit of research I realized that Yahoo was the I'm Feeling Lucky result for "www". That search has an interesting list of results, one of which was a link to mapquest as #10, which saved me from attempting to type it again. So the circle of life was completed, and it was a moment of tranquility and peace in the otherwise chaotic global infrastructure.

    11. Re:You mean... by km790816 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Even easier: http://www.google.com/google.reg

      Save it and double-click to add it to the registy.

    12. Re:You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a prime example of the windows userfriendliness I've been hearing about.

    13. Re:You mean... by Trejkaz · · Score: 1

      You forgot to mention the thing about him touching himself with the rats...

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    14. Re:You mean... by SpootFinallyRegister · · Score: 1
      yeah, this is for all the people who think its just too difficult to use FreeBSD.

      and i also know everyone would love me if i said linux instead, but, well, screw off :)

    15. Re:You mean... by Keeper · · Score: 1

      Why would IE need to catch up? It has had this "feature" forever.

      Open IE, goto the Tools menu, select Internet Options, click the Advanced Tab, scroll to "Search from the Address Bar", and under "When searching" select "Just go to the most likely site".

    16. Re:You mean... by stephanruby · · Score: 1
      Open IE, goto the Tools menu, select Internet Options, click the Advanced Tab, scroll to "Search from the Address Bar", and under "When searching" select "Just go to the most likely site".

      I did exactly as you instructed. I found the options already checked as described (meaning the fourth option was already checked by default). And yet when I typed "slashdot", it still took me to the search results page on search.msn.com.

      I am not kidding. Try it for yourself. I have IE 6.0.2900 on XP with all the latest patches. Please moderators, check this out yourself before moderating.

    17. Re:You mean... by joshuaobrien · · Score: 1

      So, nice to see IE's corpse being dragged along by others.

    18. Re:You mean... by stephanruby · · Score: 1
      Like firefox's address bar already does?

      No, FireFox has one that actually works.

    19. Re:You mean... by Keeper · · Score: 2, Informative

      [click] [click] [click] [tap] [tap] [tap]

      Sure enough, it doesn't work. Once upon a time it did. There was a huge buzz around 2000 when the feature was intruduced, with many tech sites headlining silly things like "Microsoft to end domain names as we know them".

      So I decided to do some digging. The keyword search was done through a company called RealNames; the agreement between Microsoft and RealNames ended in mid 2002 because the "quality" of keywords results was getting really crappy (type "mp3" and you go to some crappy obscure company's site that sells something related to mp3s; basically the keyword database RealNames provided was getting really spammy). The default behavior was changed to drop you to a search page for your default search engine, with the arguement being that this probably gives typical users a better experience anyway.

      Oddly enough, once of the articles I read (http://searchenginewatch.com/sereport/article.php /2164841) suggested that Google should do something exactly like what they're doing here. I had to double check to make sure the article was dated 2 years ago...

    20. Re:You mean... by nmg196 · · Score: 1

      NO! Not like that at all. Read the article!

      We're talking about the "Browse by name" feature - not "I'm feeling lucky". They are different - contrary to what lots of posts above imply.

      "Browse by name" is a few feature which attempts to go directly to certain websites if you type in a proper name and does a google search if Google doesn't recognise an offical site for the name you entered. I'm feeling lucky simply goes to the first match on a google search as you know.

      I hope that post doesn't stay +5 for long as it's very misleading.

      Nick...

  9. Funny... by Drakonite · · Score: 5, Insightful
    My browser (firefox) does this already. Sometimes I end up at really weird pages, but as long as I type in something sane that has a definite homepage, it takes me there.

    I haven't looked under the hood but I suspect it's a glorified I'm Feeling Lucky google search. Doesn't seem very news worthy to me...

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    1. Re:Funny... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, all the Firefox version does it use the "I'm Feeling Lucky" link

    2. Re:Funny... by antikarma · · Score: 1

      "Doesn't seem very news worthy to me..."

      You must be new here.

    3. Re:Funny... by pseudochaotic · · Score: 1

      I wonder if it's really good to have your browser tied to a specific webpage like that. If something strange happens, and google goes down, people are going to blame Firefox whether or not it was their fault. That's just off the top of my head, i'm sure less tired people could think of other reasons.

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    4. Re:Funny... by EvanED · · Score: 2, Funny

      Heathan! Google doesn't go down!

      (And yes, I know Google has gone down, but let's not let reality interefere with a good joke, shall we?)

    5. Re:Funny... by jpmkm · · Score: 1

      Did you sign up just to post that?

    6. Re:Funny... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not tied to a specific webpage, you can configure it to take the contents of the address bar and feed them to whatever page you want. You can use special keywords for different webpages too.

  10. Like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I've been doing natively in OS X for a couple of years (minus the toolbar) and recently with Firefox? Yeah, really cool and innovative. IE is sure to win the browser war

    1. Re:Like... by Neil+Blender · · Score: 1

      I've been doing natively in OS X for a couple of years

      Netscape on the Mac has tried any single word you type in the address bar with 'www' prepended and 'com' appended. I haven't used a Mac since 1999, but as far back as I can remember, that was a ?feature of Netscape at least back to 2.0 running on Mac OS 7.

    2. Re:Like... by IanBevan · · Score: 1, Interesting
      IE is sure to win the browser war
      In fact, Microsoft has already clearly won the browser war. Even with the advent of Firefox, it still holds ~85 of the browser market. The good thing about them losing around 10% market share to *zilla and derivatives is that it has made MS reform the IE development team who now have a chance to catch up (download manager, better standards support, skins etc etc).

      For better or worse, I don't see the Microsoft market share slipping massively (whatever massively means) until they either stop shipping IE with Windows (not going to happen) or Linux rules the desktop (not going to happen any time soon).

    3. Re:Like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Internet Explorer already won the browser war, that's what made Netscape go open source, remember?

    4. Re:Like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      download manager, better standards support, skins etc etc

      God, I hope not. Standards support, wonderful. I don't need a download manager and I certainly don't need skins.

    5. Re:Like... by dswensen · · Score: 1

      Netscape owned the lion's share in the browser war once upon a time, too, and look what happened to them.

      MSIE will likely continue to slip as long as their browser continues to be a gaping security hole with a poor set of features and tons of bugs.

      When I was working a helpdesk, and customers call asking how they can stop getting infested with spyware, malware, crazy plugins, and other annoyances, I would tell them straight up "switch to Mozilla / Firefox" and give them the URL. More often than not they would call back to thank me after using it for a while and finding out how much easier and less annoyance-riddled it was.

    6. Re:Like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Better mouse gestures, adjustable fonts with the wheel, better security, and tabbed browsing. Those are the four features that IE should copy from FireFox.

      Skins are useless and the ie download manager is not great -- but it's good enough.

    7. Re:Like... by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 1

      Before MS there was IBM

      Before IE there was Netscape

      Before Google there was Altavista

      Just because you have the market share now, does not mean you will always have it.

      MS gets the market share by bundling it free with windows while (at the time, not sure now) not making it easy for competitors to bundle theirs on the same machine (see MSvsDOJ findings of fact).

      Slow network speeds have kept people on IE. The ability to easily download firefox along with spyware and numerous exploits still existing in IE is what is killing them.

      They can reform their team all they want, but the damage is done.

  11. Using correct search terms... by garcia · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anytime I use decent search terms Google generally finds exactly what I am looking for within the first three links.

    Honestly I don't know how well "I'm Feeling Lucky" will work for most users. Hell, most people I know have to wade through their search results b/c they never know the right way to word their search terms.

    1. Re:Using correct search terms... by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 2, Funny

      feeling lucky never works for me.

      its usually the third link or so that has what i want.

      in fact, if one could reroute -im feeling lucky- to the third link, i'd probably be better off.

      i would capitalize properly, but my left shift key is broken, and im too lazy to use the right shift.

    2. Re:Using correct search terms... by Sirch · · Score: 1

      What people don't seem to be realising is that this is not 'I'm Feeling Lucky' - try it! Presumably it has to feel particularly strongly about a hit for whatever you type into the address bar before it redirects you. For example, type 'AOL' in and it will take you to www.aol.com. Type in 'tie' and it will take you to http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&gf ns=1&ie=UTF-8&q=tie... In other words, it's slightly more intelligent than "let's take the first link we can find and give it to them..."

    3. Re:Using correct search terms... by True+Grit · · Score: 1
      i would capitalize properly, but my left shift key is broken, and im too lazy to use the right shift.


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  12. Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    So who wants to bet some random keyword will be "google-bombed" by the GoatSex trolls...

    No thanks, I'll stick to the google I know :)

  13. correction by penguinoid · · Score: 1

    that should read
    Thanks, but I much prefer to use my Firebird address bar for my google searches.

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    1. Re:correction by baximus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Really? I use Firefox myself.

      But I know what you mean - the first time I typed text into the address bar ("2008 Olympics" I think it was) and it automatically took me to the best match (in this case here), I was in awe. Now I use it all the time.

    2. Re:correction by understyled · · Score: 1

      that should read Thanks but I prefer to use my Opera address bar for my [google/lycos/amazon/ebay/download.com/etc] searches.

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    3. Re:correction by iamdrscience · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I was thinking.

    4. Re:correction by stephanruby · · Score: 1
      Really? I use Firefox myself.

      Really? I guess you're a newbie. FireFox used to be FireBird back in February. Mozilla just changed its name and still many people haven't even upgraded yet.

  14. Poor submission by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://toolbar.google.com/bbn_help.html for (a little) more info

  15. google takes over world by qopax · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So they can get to everybody. An invite isn't something you sign up for, it is something given to you, current users would give it to their close friends and relatives, who are prolly not technical users and know nothing about current tech news and development of something as bland as a new email service, but thus letting people know of how good it is, and making sure the word spreads out that much farther. wow, no wonder google mostly or only employs phd's...

    smart aren't they? also, google is still free, and I saw many people say they would be completely willing to pay for it on slashdot just because it is pretty much better than any other search engine that is currently available, and it is so damn fast. But Google doesn't need to slow down their conquest of the internet market, by doing something like making their services fee-based, at least not yet. First something as unimportant as a search engine. then an email service. next an efficient and elegant messenger with most features you need and enough userbase from gmail and google to make it the most popular messenger in the world. then a web browser with all these features integrated into a slick and resource efficient application, along with it a security package guarding your internet experience.

    then an operating system.

    then manufacturing it's own line of computers. most common type at first, but after maybe making it's own type of a portable computer system.

    sounds like Apple, in the way that it is so popular right now with the iPods, but only iPods, and the way their products are so elegant and clean and efficient. ut much less expensive than Apple, currently at least.

    Along the way probably Google will make a bad decision or in one of the processes I described something better than a Google's product would be released and would gain popularity and the plan would fall through. but Google probably isn't stupid enough to create a plan that isn't fault-tolerant. the course of this plan may take 15, maybe 20 years, and then Google will control humanity and make a cluster of human brains integrated with computers to find out the meaning of life?

    oh wait, that would be evil

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    1. Re:google takes over world by Metallic+Matty · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is very insightful, for the first two paragraphs. Then it just goes downhill.

    2. Re:google takes over world by Reene · · Score: 1

      Paranoid much?

      Besides, you know they already have the meaning, they're still looking for that bloody question.

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    3. Re:google takes over world by Shadwell · · Score: 1

      Dear lord. Posts like this need a 'WTF?' moderation.

    4. Re:google takes over world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are very close. Go to http://images.google.com look at their new offering, an image search application for windows computers called Picasa. It integrates with a one-to-one chat program/P2P called Hello so you can share the pictures and discuss them online. I can't figure out where the profit comes in except the the language for the download of Hello says "try Hello for free" which might indicate a little pusher-mentality "here kiddies I have something that will make you feel good, would you like a taste?"

      An OS is more than nifty apps, but they seem to be rolling out a lot more apps recently. Actually these look like purchases or perhaps Google is doing a little Angelling with their cash.

    5. Re:google takes over world by multipartmixed · · Score: 1

      Didn't you just post this drivel a couple of days ago?

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    6. Re:google takes over world by qopax · · Score: 1

      I do not believe that my prediction of world doom was heard by enough people.

      yea, sorry
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    7. Re:google takes over world by True+Grit · · Score: 1

      Its too bad we can't mod by the paragraph, the first 2 get "Insightful" and the remainder get "Tinfoil Hat Funny".

  16. Firefox & Safari by Feneric · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My first thought was "why MSIE only?" but then upon looking closer discovered that it only seems to be more or less replicating the facility already built into Firefox and Safari.

    Not too earth shattering, and just in time to catch a declining IE. Most of the folks who would download and install this are probably competent enough to download and install Firefox.

    1. Re:Firefox & Safari by garcia · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not too earth shattering, and just in time to catch a declining IE.

      Sorry but I don't exactly think it's all that important of a feature. It surely isn't anyting but bloat. Don't we normally complain about that with other pieces of software?

      Somehow when we talk about Mozilla/Firefox features that IE doesn't have it's never unnecessary.

    2. Re:Firefox & Safari by abischof · · Score: 0, Redundant

      My first thought was "why MSIE only?" but then upon looking closer discovered that it only seems to be more or less replicating the facility already built into Firefox and Safari.

      Besides, there's always the Googlebar for Firefox :). (It doesn't have this newfangled "Browse By Name" feature, but that sounds dubiously useful in any case.)
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    3. Re:Firefox & Safari by gfody · · Score: 1

      this feature isn't built into firefox, the ability to make it is. firefox lets you define keywords.. by default it defines "goto" as http://www.google.com/search?q=%s&btnI=I'm+Feeling +Lucky
      %s is replaced with whatever you type after "goto"

      I've defined "go" to just do the search w/o i'm feeling lucky (I use that more since apparently I'm not lucky)

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    4. Re:Firefox & Safari by sewagemaster · · Score: 1

      how this benifits google
      until the next version of windows (IE) comes out people can start using the toolbar so that should M$ decide to lock out google in their next version of windows, the users used to having the toolbar around is going to continue to use google, despite anything M$ does implicitly.

    5. Re:Firefox & Safari by Shinglor · · Score: 1

      Somehow when we talk about Mozilla/Firefox features that IE doesn't have it's never unnecessary.

      Maybe because it is necessary? The only feature I can think of in Firefox that shouldn't be there is LiveMarks. IE is horribly under-featured which is what you get when you use a three year old browser.

      How is it bloat? It doesn't slow down your browsing in anyway and it is completely transparent. It doesn't add new toolbars or buttons it just adds useful functionality to an existing widget. It's not going to get in the way unless you want to see an error message when you mistype URLs.

    6. Re:Firefox & Safari by westlake · · Score: 1
      Not too earth shattering, and just in time to catch a declining IE. Most of the folks who would download and install this are probably competent enough to download and install Firefox.

      200 posts on v2.0 of an IE plug-in. Not the best evidence that the browser is "in decline."

    7. Re:Firefox & Safari by Baricom · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, it is built into Firefox (or, at least it was - Mozilla Foundation has a funny way of changing horses mid-stream...).

      You're talking about quick searches, where you bookmark the search engine and type an appropriate trigger keyword as you save it.

      If you type your query into the address bar without any keyword at all, it does an "I'm Feeling Lucky" search on Google by default. You can type about:config and then search for "keyword" to change it to a different engine, if you wish.

    8. Re:Firefox & Safari by Trejkaz · · Score: 1

      Mozilla's search bar is actually quite useful though. Far from being bloat, and far from being a "Google bar", you can actually plug hundreds of search engines into it, as it's completely customisable. I use mine for the dictionary and IMDB more often than I use it for Google.

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    9. Re:Firefox & Safari by bheer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most of the folks who would download and install this are probably competent enough to download and install Firefox.

      A lot of IE users have had Google's Toolbar installed for them by friends, admins, etc. And the toolbar updates itself silently, so no -- a lot of people using it now will not be installing it themselves.

      Btw, I've been using this browse-by-name feature for about a month now (when I use IE at all) -- why is this suddenly front-page /. news?

    10. Re:Firefox & Safari by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    11. Re:Firefox & Safari by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but most of the replies are saying "Firefox/Safari/Opera already has this. Why is this news?"

    12. Re:Firefox & Safari by stephanruby · · Score: 1
      Somehow when we talk about Mozilla/Firefox features that IE doesn't have it's never unnecessary.

      Please give us at least two examples of those "featureS" and let us know why they're important. Personally, I can't even think of one myself.

    13. Re:Firefox & Safari by True+Grit · · Score: 1
      I don't exactly think it's all that important of a feature


      I think a large number of folk would disagree with you. Kinda reminds me what the IE apologists said after tabbed browsing came out: "Nah, we don't need it, its not that big a deal". Same problem.

      It surely isn't anyting but bloat
      .....
      Somehow when we talk about Mozilla/Firefox features that IE doesn't have it's never unnecessary.


      Hmmm, let's turn this on its head: So we have MS boosters who always want to talk about how MS's products have more features and are easier to use, but when an example is shown of a F/OS app with better features and ease of use, suddenly the extra features are "bloat", and the added ease of use is "not all that important a feature". God, I just love Microsoft Logic(TM)!! :)
  17. Re:Return of Internet Keywords? by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 4, Informative
    There have been several attempts by several different parties to introduce an AOL-ish "Keyword" system to the general web-browsing population. I am not sure which the submitter is referring to, possibly something MS once tried to do with IE? I think I recall MS fumbling around with something like that some years ago. I don't know...

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  18. explosion by penguinoid · · Score: 1

    Q: What happens when you mix "Don't be evil" with "embrace and extend" and reliable searching with Internet Explorer?

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    1. Re:explosion by bujoojoo · · Score: 1

      Q: What happens when you mix "Don't be evil" with "embrace and extend" and reliable searching with Internet Explorer?

      Facism with a hug?

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  19. Now THATs irony. by lifebouy · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Google, of all people should not be building an IE-only ANYTHING. They should know better.
    I think it's a bit ironic, too, that right when Firefox is taking the net by storm, Google puts out something which could give people an excuse not to quit thier IE addiction. "Oh I tried that firefox thing, but it couldn't load my google toolbar, so I went back to Internet Exploder"

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    1. Re:Now THATs irony. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahahahaha.

      You've obviously never used Firefox.

    2. Re:Now THATs irony. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My firefox has this built in (no need to DL a toolbar)!!

      Ex. "French military victories"

    3. Re:Now THATs irony. by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Google put out the toolbar in 2001, long before Firefox became popular. Why shouldn't they release it for IE? Mozilla and Firefox already have Google builtin. They want more people to use Google, this just makes it easier.

    4. Re:Now THATs irony. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Firefox already has most of the features that the Google toolbar gives you, there would be no point in installing a toolbar for it.

    5. Re:Now THATs irony. by DynamiteNeon · · Score: 1

      It's not google's responsibility to make people switch browsers. Their job is to make things for the majority of web users. Last I checked, the majority still uses IE.

      If/when the majority become Firefox users, I'm sure they'll start making their products for them first.

      Besides, as others have already suggested, firefox has this ability built in.

    6. Re:Now THATs irony. by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      I think you need to get out a dictionary and find out what irony means.

      And the moz guys built google into firefox already.

      Which raises a question; now that google is a big corporate advertising concern, is hardcoding google into firefox, etc, really ethical? Maybe ethical isn't the word I want, but for all the bitching about choice around here... Maybe I want to choose something other than google? Can you do that in firefox?

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    7. Re:Now THATs irony. by Mattwolf7 · · Score: 1
      yes

      Click on the G up in the search box and select "Add engines..."

  20. This is probably not aimed at us by Brian_Warner · · Score: 2, Informative

    I would guess that this is aimed more at your average mom and pop internet users, not /. readers. As such, if they can avoid the whole keyword problem, it will be useful for their target audience. After all, how many readers use IE anyway?

    1. Re:This is probably not aimed at us by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 4, Insightful
      After all, how many readers use IE anyway?

      *I* do!

      I switched back to IE from Firefox because I got tired of bugs like this

    2. Re:This is probably not aimed at us by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      After all, how many readers use IE anyway?

      Given I mostly read Slashdot from work on a SOE (mostly) compliant machine, I do.

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    3. Re:This is probably not aimed at us by Leto2 · · Score: 1
      I use IE. Unless...
      • Firefox starts up as fast as IE does (like Mozilla, it has the resident memory thingy in the systray)
      • Firefox gets native Windows proxy profiles support (so I don't have to set my proxy through 20 screens everytime I connect to a VPN connection)
      • Firefox supports the ActiveX applet that my company's support-site requires for my job
      • Firefox can enlarge my browsing real-estate (in IE I can hide the File/Edit/View/Help menubar that I never use, and in IE I can make the icons really small)
      • Firefox can display my flight reservations on http://www.continental.com without a screwed-up layout
      ... I'm not going to switch. IE is the only way for me to do my job. And I like my job a lot, too.
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    4. Re:This is probably not aimed at us by insomaniac · · Score: 1

      I hear about this bug often here, but I'm using firefox 0.9.3 and I haven't seen this bug at all, what version is this bug in?

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    5. Re:This is probably not aimed at us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen this bug (where the left link area collapses) on Firefox 0.9.3 under Win2k. It's periodic, though.

    6. Re:This is probably not aimed at us by oddfox · · Score: 1

      I must be the only one who never had this issue with any version of Firefox rendering Slashdot to any extreme degree, and I've been a regular /. reader for at least 4 years, and have been using Firefox since, like, the second or third release. I have minor problems every now and then where the tables overlap by maybe like 3-5 pixels, but that's it, and it's hardly a huge issue, in Firefox or any other Gecko-based browser. Hell, I used to follow the trunk and branch builds a lot, too.

      BTW, when I say it's a minor issue I mean I don't even bother reloading the page when it happens, it doesn't affect my reading.

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    7. Re:This is probably not aimed at us by Fallen_Knight · · Score: 1

      mozilla here and i see it

    8. Re:This is probably not aimed at us by TiggsPanther · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've encountered this bug for a while using Firefox (0.8 and up, I think) under XP. No problem under Linux (GNOME on FC1).

      However I still find that annoying as the bug is (and it is very annoying at times) it's still offset by other advantages such as tabbed browsing - which I can't do without when using Slashdot. I'll regularly fire off the article links into a new tab, so unless there's a way of capturing a linked cliked in IE to open in a new Firefox tab then I think I'll be sticking with FF.
      I simply can't abide IE anymore - except for connecting to OWA. I'm too used to using Firefox these days.

      Having said all of that, I can't wait until the damn bug gets fixed.

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    9. Re:This is probably not aimed at us by Council · · Score: 1

      Oops. First /. post and I mistype the link html. Smooth. I'll be going now.

      Corrected post:

      I use Maxthon(formerly MyIE2), which is a shell on top of the IE core. I've tried most major browsers and this is the one I've ended up with. I program and have a couple Linux computers.

      [2nd /. post ever]

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    10. Re:This is probably not aimed at us by Reapy · · Score: 1

      I've gotten it ever since going to .9xx I attribute it to browsing with firefox while its shrunken down to about 500 x400 pixels. I don't seem to notice it as much when its full screen, but then again, i never seem to browse slashdot full screen.

    11. Re:This is probably not aimed at us by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 1

      >like Mozilla, it has the resident memory thingy in the systray)

      I have never seen it for firefox. Are you sure?

      > Firefox supports the ActiveX applet that my company's support-site requires for my job

      Active-X is horribly insecure. But yes you have a choice. You can install "open in IE" or "Active-X" extensions in firefox.

      >in IE I can hide the File/Edit/View/Help menubar that I never use, and in IE I can make the icons really small)

      You can do the same in Firefox. You can even completly design the icons to be smaller, or download already existing themes.

      > Firefox can display my flight reservations on http://www.continental.com without a screwed-up layout

      Looks fine to me. I even installed adblock so it means the site in question has no advert spam.

    12. Re:This is probably not aimed at us by nmk · · Score: 1

      You don't suppose that, besides IE and Firefox, there are any other browsers out there.

  21. In case of slashdotting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The cache can be found here.

  22. Try... by soyuz_2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Try "miserable failure"

    (yes, it's old... still funny though.. :)

    1. Re:Try... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It's interesting that Jimmy Carter and Michael Moore round out the top three after Gearge W. Bush. It's also interesting that that search brings up an ad link from google for a site selling anti-Bush paraphernalia.

  23. Someone needs to see if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "French military victories" works (it does on my Firefox, but I don't dare to try it with the GoogleBar on IE).

  24. This will be very interesting by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "It lets you enter keywords in the browser address bar, and when Google decides this is a sure bet you will be directly forwarded to the right page."

    Google hacking will be really damn funny. Just imagine, say, for 6 months, people get used to typing 'update windows' in their address bar. Then, some google hacker figures out a way to suddenly spike the value of some other site somehow to include 'update windows' as the first choice. Hopefully not to goatse.

    other fun things to do with google

    1. Re:This will be very interesting by Trejkaz · · Score: 1

      This could potentially be a great way to advertise Linux, if "update windows" went straight to any given Linux Distro's Install HOWTO. :-)

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    2. Re:This will be very interesting by Afty0r · · Score: 1
      Then, some google hacker figures out a way to suddenly spike the value of some other site somehow to include 'update windows' as the first choice. Hopefully not to goatse.
      I can think of worse things than that:
      COMP : You need to install the latest version of Windows Update y/n?
      USER : Duh...uhhh....yeah.
      COMP : You need to restart your machine for these changes to take effect. y/n?
      USER : Duh...uhhh....yeah.
      COMP : C:\
      USER : Duh...uhhh....uuuhhhh?
  25. Re:Weird error by penguinoid · · Score: 1

    Me too. Yup, it was about a second. I clicked on "read more" very soon after the headline appeared, while it still had 0 comments ... must be the headline and article were a little out of sync.

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  26. Translation by Glonoinha · · Score: 1, Insightful

    When there is a positive match between all the keywords you typed and a significant AdWords purchasing advertiser, you will immediately be routed to the highest bidding site.

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  27. news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a little surprised to find this qualifying as news. I'll be sure to submit a story everytime Firefox adds a cool new feature. Expect a couple submissions a day!

  28. Sure Link? by Paster+Of+Muppets · · Score: 1

    So it will only direct you to the "correct" page when Google decides that page is the "sure bet" of what you want. What happens when it can't find anything definitive enough from your search terms - would it take you to the Google search page or go to its closest match?

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  29. Can be very glitchy on Intranets by RomSteady · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Unfortunately, if you enter a single word, it does not check to see if it can resolve the name on your Intranet first. Instead, it immediately does the "Browse By Name."

    This caused a lot of issues on our Intranet. Just warning everyone.

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    1. Re:Can be very glitchy on Intranets by jimbrewer · · Score: 1

      Why would you type an internal DNS name into the google toolbar in the first place?

    2. Re:Can be very glitchy on Intranets by cheekyboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dont you ever type in the address bar;

      "router" or
      "webmail" or
      "intranet" or
      "mp3server" ???????

      It should always check local DNS/Domains first, then try .com/.org/.net combos, then a www.{TEXT}.com/.net/.org combo, then do the search

      Ofcourse all this should be 100% defined in an xml config file and NOT be hardcoded

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    3. Re:Can be very glitchy on Intranets by RomSteady · · Score: 2, Informative

      You don't type it into the Google toolbar. You type it into the address bar. However, as soon as you type a word without an scheme identifier (for example, "www" or "mail" instead of "http://www" or "http://mail"), the Google toolbar intercepts the request and does a "Browse By Name."

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    4. Re:Can be very glitchy on Intranets by jimbrewer · · Score: 1

      Doh! I guess it would have helped if I'd RTFSummary. That's jacked.

  30. Re:Return of Internet Keywords? by stratjakt · · Score: 1

    I thought he was talking about AOL keywords, I've never heard the phrase "internet keywords" before, and assumed he just thinks AOL *is* the internet like so many others.

    Guess that makes me a "troll".

    BTW, I'll bet cash money that >10% of slashdot readers have AOL.

    BTW#2, there's really nothing wrong with AOL, except for lame geek elitism.

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  31. not a troll by penguinoid · · Score: 1

    or perhaps you haven't seen MSN search?

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  32. Feeling lucky? by dv8ed · · Score: 0, Redundant

    So, is this just a shortcut for the I'm Feeling Lucky button (in which case it is useless) or another way to sell advertising? Have to wonder what happens when you start typing in adwords Google has sold...

  33. What do I win... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    For being the first person to see where the keyword "sex" takes me.

    http://www.sxetc.org/

    (back to Firefox now)

    1. Re:What do I win... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A teen sex site? Isn't that child pornography???

  34. RealNames by otisg · · Score: 1

    For those too young to remember, this would be BARN: Bourne Again RealNames

    Something to reminisce:
    RealNames Wayback.

    You can see their fall here:
    Realnames.com.

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  35. "Internet keywords" without the evil by IntelliTubbie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is this the return of Internet Keywords?

    In one sense, Google has always been about "Internet keywords" -- accessing information by description rather than name. This simply streamlines the process of going to www.google.com, typing in the search terms, and hitting "I feel lucky" into a single step within the browser.

    So why did "Internet keywords" get such a bad rap the first time around? Because, contrary to Google's motto ("Don't be evil"), they were doing it to profit from selling keywords. While they claimed to be delivering information to users, they were really delivering users to advertisers.

    Thankfully, Google discovered that there's a sizeable market for honest technology that does what it says. To cite another example, this is also why user-controlled RSS has succeeded where deliverer-controlled "Push" technology failed so spectacularly.

    Cheers,
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    1. Re:"Internet keywords" without the evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So why did "Internet keywords" get such a bad rap the first time around? Because, contrary to Google's motto ("Don't be evil"), they were doing it to profit from selling keywords.

      What on earth are you talking about? The original "Internet Keywords" had nothing to do with Google.

    2. Re:"Internet keywords" without the evil by LionKimbro · · Score: 1

      You may be interested in LocalNames, which allows people or groups to keep their own keyword lists.

      You can default LocalNames lists to other LocalNames lists- so, if people make a particularly good or useful set of names, other people can choose to use them as well.

    3. Re:"Internet keywords" without the evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is his point, numbnuts.

    4. Re:"Internet keywords" without the evil by stephanruby · · Score: 1
      You may be interested in Activewords It lets you create keywords and share them as well, but unlike local names, it lets you type them anywhere (meaning, your browser doesn't even need to be open, you can type them in Word, on your desktop, really anywhere)

      Check out the demo I linked to, Activewords is such a nice little app, you might not believe all the nice things I have to say about it.

    5. Re:"Internet keywords" without the evil by TuringTest · · Score: 1

      Interesting application. Is a Windows implementation of the "command" feature of the interface described in The Humane Environment.

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  36. heh by SinaSa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Everyone is saying "Not too earth shattering" or "My browser already does this!".

    Who doesn't think google can do it better? Of course this will be a glorified "I'm feeling lucky" but google can probably make big bucks selling keywords, to the likes of movies promoters for new release movies (like AOL).

    This isn't the biggest chunk of news ever, obviously, but haven't we all seen something LESS newsworthy on /.?

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  37. Re:Return of Internet Keywords? by superpulpsicle · · Score: 1

    Isn't the concept of AOL keywords more or less the same as MetaTag? With the exception that the keyword must be unique within the AOL database?

  38. better link by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 2, Informative
  39. Please...... by Mung+Bianca · · Score: 1

    ....Let the sad,sad IE people have a little fun for once.

  40. I seriously doubt that. by ZuperDee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I do not think for a minute that replicating existing Firefox functionality was Google's main reason for not creating a Firefox version of this toolbar. The simple fact is, Google knows very well that IE, even with its recent troubles, STILL accounts for over 90 percent of all web browsing, and is therefore their primary target audience.

    Supposing it had been the other way around... Let's suppose that Firefox had been the one with 90 percent market share that was declining, while IE was rising... Do you seriously think Google would still be taking this course of action?!? Would you then still be saying that Google just wanted to bring IE on par with Firefox? I for one seriously doubt they would do that. And THAT is the point: Google is a business, just like any other. They are not here to evangelize ANY browser; they are here to make good BUSINESS decisions, and if supporting 90 percent of all people who just happen to be using IE is the way to do it, they will. I'd hate to break it to you, but the evidence is crystal clear: If Firefox were the one with 90 percent market share, things would be quite different, and Google probably would not be bothering with IE at that point.

    1. Re:I seriously doubt that. by Feneric · · Score: 1

      You misunderstand. I'm not trying to suggest that Google is evangelizing any particular browser. I'm saying the reason the toolbar is MSIE-only is because it would be pointless to make a version for Firefox or Safari when they already both have features that are more or less equivalent.

    2. Re:I seriously doubt that. by westlake · · Score: 1
      The simple fact is, Google knows very well that IE, even with its recent troubles, STILL accounts for over 90 percent of all web browsing, and is therefore their primary target audience.

      The eBay toolbar is another popular brand-name plug-in for Internet Explorer. Essential for the true eBay addict, but as a commercial service very difficult if not impossible to integrate into a free or open source browser.

    3. Re:I seriously doubt that. by ricotest · · Score: 1

      Yes, but you'd think that with all its aquired skill and legions of experienced coders, plus its UNIX roots and the fact it's completely powered by Linux, just one smidgen of helpfulness inside the company might prompt one of their staff to make a Firefox or Mozilla equivalent of the Google Toolbar.

      But I guess, as you say, they're a company and they make business decisions. A bit of a shame, really.

  41. um, no by penguinoid · · Score: 1

    1) Microsoft is a very popular site
    2) Most links to "buggy insecure browser" would point to IE
    3) That may have, in addition, been google-bombed

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    1. Re:um, no by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

      I meant translation of the original post, in a larger global scale, not translation of the first post, which as we can all agree was teh funny.

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    2. Re:um, no by Alien+Being · · Score: 2, Funny

      4) IE is the best-known buggy and insecure browser.

      If you're gonna defend M$ on /., you should learn to pick your battles more wisely.

    3. Re:um, no by Lshmael · · Score: 1

      In that case, you should have created a new thread, and not replied to the first post, since your comments were not in response to it.

    4. Re:um, no by strictfoo · · Score: 0, Redundant

      5) Profit!!!

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  42. And so it begins by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    And so the Googles fall from grace begins. First directing you to I'm Feeling Lucky sites, and then to Ad Word sites.

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  43. Re: your sig by BHearsum · · Score: 1

    Is there a Canadian version? I thought the days of US-only were gone.

  44. Camino by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I've been doing this for a long time in Camino using the search field that is included with the browser. Doesn't include "I feel lucky," but so what? I'd rather have to click the mouse one more time than get sent to the wrong page because I wasn't so lucky.

    Best thing about this is if you edit SearchURLList.plist, you can include any search engine you like in the search engine list. I think any Mozilla browser will work this way, and there are third party tools for Safari that allow the same thing. I click the search field and I can choose whether to send my search query to Amazon, Google, Wikipedia, Dictionary.com, eBay, Erowid, whatever! Much more useful in my opinion than an "I feel lucky" button.

    1. Re:Camino by angrykeyboarder · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Firefox has this feature and I use it all the time. I picked about 15 searches to choose from (including: Sourceforge, IMDB, Netflix, Supernova and All The Web - to name a few).

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  45. Firefox by scapermoya · · Score: 1

    Firefox does something way less techy than this already, typing words directly into the address bar uses google's Im Feeling Lucky feature to try and toss you in the right direction. Not based on a list of keywords, but pretty useful if you know what you are doing.

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  46. IE only? by Bigbluejerk · · Score: 1

    Why the f**k is this only for Internet Explorer?

    1. Re:IE only? by Stevyn · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just f**king download firefox and enjoy the f**cking google bar already build the f**k in. It's f**king great and I use it all the f**cking time.

      Haha, alright man, I'm just f**cking with you. I still like to go to google.com. This article made me realize I should get rid that that f**king google bar. It's just wasting space and that pissed me the f**k off.

      Fuck!

    2. Re:IE only? by russint · · Score: 1

      Did you mean to say "fuck"? I would advise against it, since "fuck" is a very offensive word and kids might be reading here.

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  47. or by missing000 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    1. Re:or by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Try "waffles." I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

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    2. Re:or by soyuz_2 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Try "waffles." I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

      What, republicans know how to use computers too? And googlebomb? This must be the new shock & awe strategy I've been hearing so much about...

    3. Re:or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeh d00d, republiKKKans are dummies LOL!!!

    4. Re:or by soyuz_2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeh d00d, republiKKKans are dummies LOL!!!

      Yes, it was wrong of me to perpetuate these untrue stereotypes of republicans. Do accept my heartfelt apologies. And say hi to your mom for me, it's been a while.

    5. Re:or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's teh funnay because BUSH is st00pid!

      ohhh gotta go karl rove is gunna kick my ass

      kerry akbar!

    6. Re:or by Zigg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Funny. The conclusion I drew was that while there's real criticism of Kerry's record (or lack thereof) in full swing, the best we're getting from the other side is a schoolyard "idiot" taunt.

    7. Re:or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you prefer liar?

  48. Patent trouble by IgD · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Looks like some else already patented this concept: http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US06101537__

    "A universal electronic resource denotation, request and delivery system allows a user to locate information on a distributed computer system or network such as the Internet by knowing or guessing a short mnemonic alias of an electronic resource without the user having to know the physical or other location denotation such as the universal resource locator (URL) of the desired resource."

  49. Re:Firefox by GarfBond · · Score: 1

    You might be pleased to know that Firefox already has this, though not very well publicised. Typing in anything that's not a website in the address bar takes goes through an "I'm feeling lucky" search, which this sounds like it is.

    Also not terribly surprising considering that Netscape was a big proponent of Internet Keywords, back in the crappy ol' 4.x days.

  50. Re: your sig by keiferb · · Score: 1

    Not that I know of. Got any friends in the US? You could probably have it shipped to them.

  51. Re:Weird error by Darthmalt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you click a link too quickly after it's posted you get the "Nothing to see here" page. just refresh a time or two and it'll come up

  52. Oy by .com+b4+.storm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A lot of high-mod posts on here are totally missing the point. The point isn't so much that IE is finally getting the equivelant of an "I'm feeling lucky" text box, it's getting one that is (supposedly) intelligent. When Google thinks the "I'm feeling lucky" link is what you want, it will take you there. If not, it takes you to the regular search results. That is what makes this (albeit questionably) interesting.

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    1. Re:Oy by Trejkaz · · Score: 1

      So why can't they add this to the actual Google site, instead of making it a client-side thing? Couldn't they just make an "I Might Be Feeling Lucky" button, which does the same thing, with less cruft?

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  53. Firefox does it already by prell · · Score: 3, Informative

    Mozilla, or at least Firefox, has done this for a while -- it just goes to Google and grabs the first result (i.e. "I'm feeling lucky"). It's neat and I've used it, but I don't really use it a lot.

    1. Re:Firefox does it already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I really like this feature and tend to use this quite often, especially for keywords that I already know the result for. So, when it's used in this way, the feature almost replaces DNS as a way to look up internet sites. It doesn't replace all features of DNS, mainly because the lookup won't always return the same result, ie, a site can't *own* an "I'm Feeling Lucky" keyword. But for most browsing purposes, I can see DNS being phased out in favour of these "softer" lookup mechanisms.

    2. Re:Firefox does it already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think it does the same thing exactly; according to google "When Browse By Name doesn't "know" where you want to go based on what you type into the IE address bar, it will do a Google search for you" - so presumably there must be other index it uses too.

    3. Re:Firefox does it already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Its not that handy when you develop against a web server on you local machine. I really did not want to visit localhost.au every time I forgot to start Tomcat.

  54. Re:Return of Internet Keywords? by iMaple · · Score: 1

    And the fact that if u take AOL broad band (even cable) you have to run a bloated software which doesnt run on Linux just to connect. (I tried it bcos they had a 45 days free trial and I was short of money ... but it was useless becos I couldnt use it on my linux machine)

  55. not active x? by big+daddy+kane · · Score: 1

    interesting how instead of supporting the terribly insecure active x, google chooses to instead distribute it with an installer program.

    1. Re:not active x? by angrykeyboarder · · Score: 1

      It's been that way for a while, actually.

      And your sig is tastless, sorry....

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  56. Not new by Sandman1971 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Errr, this isn't new per say, except for maybe IE. It's been in the Mozilla Google toolbar for a few months now. I personally find it highly annoying.

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    1. Re:Not new by angrykeyboarder · · Score: 1

      I love it. It's very accurate. I just double-checked the keywords "miserable failure" to be sure...

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    2. Re:Not new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      per se

  57. No, I'm New Here by New+Here · · Score: 1, Funny

    No, I'm New Here

    1. Re:No, I'm New Here by Shut+the+fuck+up! · · Score: 0, Funny

      Shut the fuck up!

  58. Enhanced Pop-up Blocker? by BondGamer · · Score: 1

    Have they enhanced the pop-up blocking feature? More and more pop-ups are slipping through google's toolbar. In 2-3 months it will probably be totally ineffective.

    1. Re:Enhanced Pop-up Blocker? by angrykeyboarder · · Score: 1

      That problem is easly solved. Get Firefox., It's better and has a builit-in popup blocker. As well a Google search by default. On the other hand, if you want more Google bells and whistles, add the Googlebar to Firefox. But if you're a Slashdot reader, you should know all this anyway.....

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    2. Re:Enhanced Pop-up Blocker? by BondGamer · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Thank you! I had no idea there were other browsers out there besides IE. If you didn't tell me all this wonderful information I would have never known about it. I live in a glass box with no air holes.

    3. Re:Enhanced Pop-up Blocker? by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 1

      Firefox does not stop all pop ups though.

      For example...

      http://www.aol.com/

      Go there, even with popups blocked I still get a popup. Although with ad-block installed the popup is just a blank window.

    4. Re:Enhanced Pop-up Blocker? by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 1

      intresting.. I stand corrected. I looked it some more and somehow monsoon5.com had somehow been added to my approved lists of sites to allow popups.

      This is strange because I have seen this happen on a few machines.

    5. Re:Enhanced Pop-up Blocker? by angrykeyboarder · · Score: 1

      I went there and got no popups....

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  59. Google gets AOL like features! by kawabago · · Score: 0

    Sounds like we'll have to come up with a new name for the AOLisk google. Loogle?

  60. Google bias by Hao+Wu · · Score: 1
    I typed "Google" to search for info on super-large number in mathematics-- very first result was link to Google's homepage. No math lesson for me, only some link to a useless Search tool.

    Try it. You will see.

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    1. Re:Google bias by BlacKat · · Score: 2, Informative

      You might want to search for "googol" instead, if you mean 10^100 ;)

    2. Re:Google bias by angrykeyboarder · · Score: 1

      That's because you don't know how to spell googol....

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    3. Re:Google bias by Hao+Wu · · Score: 1
      You might want to search for "googol" instead, if you mean 10^100 ;)

      I hope you didn't mean "Gookol". Not funny, to make fun of my heritage.

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    4. Re:Google bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha. You're stupid. "Googol" is the name of the number, and "Google" is the search company.

    5. Re:Google bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey scott, just looked at your lj, why don't you drop the broadband/computers/dvd players/netflix/digital camera/etc instead of trying to mooch off of taxpayers' money....it seems like the only thing you work at doing is trying to get food stamps and free checks in the mail

      living with bipolar disorder is rough...but claiming you can't work because of it is ridiculous

    6. Re:Google bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flied lice anyone? Main switch turn on? All your base are belong to us? I am good engrish speaker.
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  61. Re:Return of Internet Keywords? by Neil+Blender · · Score: 3, Funny

    And the fact that if u take AOL broad band (even cable) you have to run a bloated software which doesnt run on Linux just to connect. (I tried it bcos they had a 45 days free trial and I was short of money ... but it was useless becos I couldnt use it on my linux machine)

    So the grammer/spelling/general annoyingness problem doesn't go away even after you stop using AOL?

  62. Thank you... by vwjeff · · Score: 1

    This is why I read /. I learn something new everyday. Thanks.

  63. Wow! Keywords! by thewiz · · Score: 1

    Just think of all the time we'll save by typing "slashdot" instead of "slashdot.org"!

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    1. Re:Wow! Keywords! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Firefox I set up a bookmark to translate "/." in the address bar into Slashdot.org.

      In Safari I just hit CMD+2.

      I am a sad, sad individual.

    2. Re:Wow! Keywords! by sr180 · · Score: 1
      What, slashdot isnt your homepage?

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  64. Re: Wildly OT by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    Q: If I have an abortion, will I be able to get pregnant again?
    A: Yes, if you have an abortion, you will be able to get pregnant again without any complications.

    holy crap, that's just irresponcible. I mean, it would be fine if it said "The short answer is yes", or at least "Yes, it's possible", but "without any complications"? Is this site pushing anti-abortion through evolution?
    That's really a horrible thing to say.

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  65. Firefox takes you to Google's first link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Firefox has a similar system built into the browser as a standard feature. But it seems a little dumbed down compared to Google's new toolbar system.

    For example:
    From what I can tell (And I'll be the first to admit this isn't the result of very intensive testing) the Firefox system simply takes you to whatever Google's first link is.

    For example: Typing in the word "Wallets" in Firefox brings you to FatWallet.com which happens to be Google's first link on the keyword "wallets". This isn't what I'd call an appropriate redirect. (Of course, we'd all rather go to J.Fold.)

    Since this amounts to an all-or-nothing, winner-takes-all search ranking competition, I expect the competition to be ranked #1 will increase even more if browser keyword searches become commonplace.

    1. Re:Firefox takes you to Google's first link by popo · · Score: 1

      From what I can tell you're right. It almost seems like Firefox has a keywords deal with Google... hmm...

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  66. I'm really feeling lucky... by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Informative

    In a sense, what Google's doing here is taking what used to happen when you typed a non-domain'ed phrase into IE's address bar, a search at your selected search engine, and declaring that if the confidence score is high enough, equating that to an "I'm feeling lucky" click on the Google homepage.

    In a sense, if the PageRank of hit #1 is so far away from the PageRank of hit #2... why bother with the selection screen, just assume that the user wants to see #1 and give it to them.

  67. localhost by skyman8081 · · Score: 1

    I wonder how many people will wind up here when they use it and forget to start the local httpd.

    I've done that on firefox way to many times to count.

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  68. Is this like Google Bombing? by crashnbur · · Score: 1

    I was once under the impression that a "Google bomb" was finding a short phrase that jumps directly to only one page on the entire internet, but upon consulting the wiki, I don't think so.

    But anyway, is that sort of what this is like? Typing in keywords that result in a query with a single result ranked so highly above the rest that Google decided it just knows what you were looking for?

    And what if I have search from the address bar turned off?

    1. Re:Is this like Google Bombing? by tepples · · Score: 1

      I was once under the impression that a "Google bomb" was finding a short phrase that jumps directly to only one page on the entire internet

      You're thinking of a Googlewhack.

  69. Re:I don't really think so by theskeptic · · Score: 1

    Read google's faq about this new feature.
    Don't spread misinformation just because you feel so.
    This feature was released more than 3 weeks back. Not sure why it made it to slashdot so late.

    Also, who is this new slashdot editor- samzenpus?
    The name seems familiar. http://slashdot.org/~samzenpus(5)

    Any details about who samzenpus is and why doesn't he have any website/contact information?

  70. Mozilla version by j.leidner · · Score: 1
    When are Google going to release the Mozilla version of this?

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    1. Re:Mozilla version by jabels · · Score: 1

      But, these are all built into Mozilla (although you have to design your own Internet Keywords.) Who needs a google bar for Mozilla?

    2. Re:Mozilla version by angrykeyboarder · · Score: 1

      Who knows. Use Googlebar instead.

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    3. Re:Mozilla version by Bodhammer · · Score: 1

      Googlebar needs autofill...

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    4. Re:Mozilla version by angrykeyboarder · · Score: 1
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  71. The feature has been there for a long time. by JPriest · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Go to your existing version of Google toolbar
    Options > More > under "Extra search Buttons" > select "I'm feeling lucky"

    I don't use that one but I use the "search this site" feature all the time.

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  72. Approved Chinese version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Type in Democracy and it'll send you to the secret police's tracking central. In no time you'll get a trip to Lao Gai...

  73. Re:In which case by qopax · · Score: 2, Funny

    copyright violation. click here for sueage.

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  74. Re:fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    You fail it. Hard.

    Biznitch

  75. Commerce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am curious about the impact on commerce sites who currently use search engine rankings as part of their overall marketing mix.

    Why would a search for "Harman Kardon" take me to HarmanKardon.com instead of showing me the Top 10 results which might include discount resellers of Harmon Kardon products? Instead, I, the websurfer, now must wade through informational content and somehow find my way to resellers officially listed at the HK site.

    Why would a search for "Grand Canyon" *not* take me to GrandCanyon.com?

    If I type in "tshirts" or "cheap tshirts" what would I get (i.e., how it is determined what the "real" website is for a given keyword/phrase)?

    I could go on and on, but surely it is readily apparent, if adopted en masse and if keywords/phrases are increasingly populated with a single response, the results could be highly disadvantageous to a wide range of commercial websites (and information sites, for that matter). Many changes at Google have already had the side effect of destabilizing some small businesses who previously relied on (ethical) search engine marketing as a major component of their commerce exchanges (and the many customers who were thankful to have found that commercial site).

    Those magically blessed by Google, through a process we do not understand, will be the rare few who benefit.

    (In some small way, it reminds me of Microsoft whereby they have all the answer [singular] you need. And only their official channel benefits. Because the mass of people are not Slashdotters who understand how to use a wide variety of tools for a wide variety of purposes. Instead, the masses are funneled through a pre-determined strainer.)

    Finally, is there some kind of legal liability if Google directs searches for (something like) "Britney Spears" to the wrong site? Or, perhaps, if they have the technology in place to point it to the right site, but instead show raw search results none of which contain the official site? It seems to me that its a bit problematic to be the One and Great Arbiter of what's the single correct response to a query.

    Contrary to some other posts, this type of 'technology' (whether in FireFox or in a Google ToolBar or AOL Keyword) is *very* newsworthy in that it can change the landscape for a wide number of commerical (and non-commerical) website traffic.

    1. Re:Commerce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Why would a search for "Grand Canyon" *not* take me to GrandCanyon.com?

      Because that's a crappy spam site?

      Google's #1 result is correct: http://www.nps.gov/grca/

    2. Re:Commerce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Instead, I, the websurfer, now must wade through informational content

      Oh man, that really sucks...
      I've got some extra junkmail and spam you can have if you really feel something is missing from your life.

    3. Re:Commerce by plj · · Score: 1

      Why would a search for "Harman Kardon" take me to HarmanKardon.com instead of showing me the Top 10 results which might include discount resellers of Harmon Kardon products? Instead, I, the websurfer, now must wade through informational content and somehow find my way to resellers officially listed at the HK site.

      Perhaps because every other webshop in the world still seems to think that US == World, but HK wants their product also be known elsewhere?

      Sheesh. This is not actually meant to be an anti-US troll. I just wonder WTF the zillions of webshops are thinking, who stubbornly refuse to ship outside US. Would it really be so hard to include international shipping rates, and just ship anyone??

      Last time I tried to order physical products from US shop it was from www.rei.com (it was pretty hard to find exactly that equipment locally). After I had placed an order they sent me an email where they politely explained that "the following manufacturers do not want their products to be shipped outside the US...". The list included many rather well-known international brands, and unsurprisingly what I had ordered was among them. Every now and then I hope I'd have a friend living in the US who could just reship the goods I want to order to me... Yeah, I know that US is a lucrative market area because everyone speaks the same language there, but there are a lot of English speakers elsewhere too!

      Btw, if you search for "harman kardon buy" instead of just "harman kardon", which would reflect better that you want to buy online immediately and not just check the specs, you'll get much more relevant results.

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  76. It's not that new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  77. Does this mean.. by Frank+of+Earth · · Score: 1

    ... that when my mom starts typing sentences in the address bar, it will actually work!?!?

    Address: I want to buy roses

    Result: Welcome to buyroses.com!

    *sigh* I'll miss the days of yelling at family members that a domain must end with dot something and an email address has an @ symbol.

  78. Ahh, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:Ahh, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it can.

  79. Fox? So bland. by Venner · · Score: 1
    Really? I use Firefox myself.
    Thanks to the random Firesomething extension, I'm currently using Mozilla Thunderdonkey. :-)
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    1. Re:Fox? So bland. by strictfoo · · Score: 1

      you're still using Thunderdonkey? I'm using the brand spanking new Mozilla Lightningshark!

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  80. RealNames information by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 4, Informative
    For those of you that don't remember the abomination that was RealNames, here's a story about their last business day

    Back when Real Names was a business, I was working for a Movie Studio. The Real Names folks almost sounded threatening when they told us that we'd better snatch up our names before someone else did! Thankfully we just ignored them.

  81. sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I typed in konica and it didn't go to konica.com....piece of crap..

  82. Old news, Mozilla/Netscape7 have bookmark keywords by fcassia_at_gmail · · Score: 5, Informative
    Old news. Mozilla and Netscape 7.x both feature "Bookmark Keywords"... one of the hidden gems of Mozilla Browser Suite.

    1. Go to your favorite web page (say www.nytimes.com).
    2. Bookmark it (CTRL-D)
    3. Go to the Bookmarks Manager (CTRL-B)
    4. Scroll down to the entry you just added and press CTRL-I to edit it.
    5. On the dialog that appears, there's a "Keyword" entry field, enter the "keyword" that you want to use for this web page you have bookmarked (example: nyt).
    6. That's it!. Next time you enter "NYT" (unquoted of course) on the url entry field and press [enter] you're taken to www.nytimes.com
    7. repeat for every web page that you want to create your personal keyword.

    Some other suggestions:
    1. Drop Internet Explorer and MS-Lookout! ^R^R^R^R^R^R Outlook.

    2. Install Mozilla as your primary browser and e-mail client.

    3. set your IE proxy to some non-existant internal IP address (10.x.x.x), on the exceptions list, put the windowsupdate page (makes it impossible for IE to reach out any page on the net, except windowsupdate).

    FC

  83. Old news... by SnprBoB86 · · Score: 1

    "Browse by name" or whatever it is called has existed for nearly 3 months in the google toolbar...

    Also, this has been a basic feature of IE for as long as I can remember. If I type something into my address bar it shows an auto complete option:

    Search for: "Text you entered"

    That option uses your default search engine which is easily configurable to Google (and in fact automatically done for you if you click yes to a prompt during the Google Toolbar installation).

    I understand FireFox is cool and all, but don't bash IE for lacking a feature (or just getting a feature) that is has always had in a slightly different form. The only difference here is that the newest version of the Google toolbar grants you a choice "I am going to run a search, I noticed you have selected to search using Google; Usually, are you feeling lucky?"

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  84. NOOOO() by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    anyone who has worked in ISP tech support knows that search bars are the bane of our existance

  85. Meh, who cares by Gentlewhisper · · Score: 3, Informative

    Type in "best browser" and you will get to.. http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

    1. Re:Meh, who cares by Grant29 · · Score: 1

      I got extra invites too. Take them off my hand please

  86. But.... by schmoo.me · · Score: 0

    ..What if you don't know what you're searching for..

    :|

  87. Re: your sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    No, there isn't!


    And as an American, I'm glad I can finally tell you that THIS IS ACTUALLY A SECRET ANTI-CANADIAN CONSPIRACY that has been going on for YEARS!

    BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  88. mark my words by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How about adding a "trademark-domain" namespace scheme to Google, like "tm:music-distribution:apple", that finds only pages about Apple records, and not Apple Computers, using the existing trademark system?

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    1. Re:mark my words by LionKimbro · · Score: 1

      You can do just this with Local Names.

      You (and others) can maintain a list of corporate names, and bind them to URLs. Then you publish the list.

      People can then default their own names lists to the list of corporate names.

      If they look up a name (in their browser address bar,) and it's not on their own list, it will automatically default to the corporate names list.

      If the name was defined in both their own list and in the corporate list, then resolution goes to their own name. If they specificly want to go to the corporate list, then they can type "corp/Coke", instead of just "Coke," and get to the corporate names list.

      The technology exists now, to do it. Here, I tell it to make a new space... There. I've just made a working namespaces.

      Now to set up URL forwarding... There.

      http://localnames.taoriver.net/corp/ is now bound to the names description, so you can just go to a URL like http://localnames.taoriver.net/corp/Coca-Cola and you'll be taken straight to the Coca-Cola website.

      Using FireFox foo, you can make it so that just typing "corp Coca-Cola" will take you straight to the Coca-Cola corporation's website.

      And if you make your own LocalNames list, you can just add the Corporation list as a defaulting target, and the names will all pass through.

      Ta daaa!

      But it's not just for web browsing; You can use this in any wiki that supports InterLinks, and you can use your names in WordPress blogs as well...

      In the future, we'll write mail client plugins, mailing list plugins, instant messenger plugins, all sorts of beautiful things, so that, combined with good link organizers, you Never Ever Ever have to look at a URL ever ever again.

    2. Re:mark my words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about adding a "trademark-domain" namespace scheme to Google, like "tm:music-distribution:apple", that finds only pages about Apple records, and not Apple Computers, using the existing trademark system?

      Sigh.

  89. Pop up blocker by gcaseye6677 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hope they've fixed their popup blocker with this new version. It seems like some asshole marketroid has found a way around it to pop ads on the screen with the toolbar running. Yea, that's going to be a really successful ad campaign. Serve popups to people who have taken specific effort to block them. When will these idiots get a clue?

  90. MOD PARENT UP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A+++ Great comment! Very funny! Would read again!Q

  91. Yeah... by AcornWeb · · Score: 1

    This has actually been out for, say, 1 month? At least? How is this news?

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  92. Re:Old news, Mozilla/Netscape7 have bookmark keywo by ICA · · Score: 1

    IE can do this too, and has for a long time. Create a favorite and then type the name of it into the address bar. You'll go right there.

    FUD, FUD, everywhere FUD...

  93. Local Names by LionKimbro · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I figure this is the right place to plug a project I've been working on.

    It's called "Local Names," and it allows you to use short names for URLs.

    The idea is that you should be able to use short names in:

    • e-mail
    • instant messages
    • bulletin board posts
    • blog posts
    • wiki posts
    • ...and in your address bar.


    We can presently use LocalNames in most wiki (any wiki that supports InterLinks,) in WordPress blogs, and in Firefox browsers.

    The LocalNames spec doesn't describe what linking syntax should look like, but it'd generally be something like this: [[short name of URL][long text to link.]] So for example, you might write:

    "So, I was on [[Slashdot]] the other day, and I saw [[invisibility cloak][an incredible invisibility cloak!]]"


    Which would render out as:

    "So, I was on Slashdot the other day, and I saw an incredible invisibility cloak!


    The names lists support defaulting, so that you don't have to name every URL you like. If someone makes a names list you like, (for example, the contents of a wiki,) you can just default to it.

    There is already: a site for keeping your own names list, a web-browser redirection site, and a site for adapting a Wiki's title index into a Local Names list.

    Python programmers may be interested in the Python library reference names, which you can use with FireFox to jump straight to any Python module's documentation.

    Bloggers may be interested in MooKitty's plug-in for WordPress that lets you use LocalNames in blog posts.

    Really, I get a little upset now when I have to look up URL's mid-post. I think, "Geeze, I've got the LocalName for this right on the tip of my tongue; Why do I have to actually resolve it to a URL myself, and then stick a href tags around it?"

    Once you start using short names for stuff, you never want to go back.
  94. firefox does it already by j0shi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    big deal. firefox is doing this already. type keyword in the address bar, & it directly takes you to a page, mostly harmless ;).

  95. I guess it depends upon how certain "sure bet" is by Leomania · · Score: 2, Informative

    I consider myself pretty damned good at Google search terms, and I'm still amazed how often what I consider really useful is buried a couple of pages down. The top hitters often make sense, but they are simply not what I wanted.

    I have no intention of actually running IE to test it out but I assume it's a feature that can be enabled/disabled by the user. If so, making the choice available isn't any big deal. Now, if you can't go back to the default behavior, that's a different story.

    All in all, me likes Google. Me wishes me had some pre-IPO shares; would like Google even better then.

    - Leo

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  96. it must be said... by DeusExMalex · · Score: 1

    it's not a bug that IE doesn't save you time/energy/hassle - it's a feature!

  97. failure... by unknown_host · · Score: 2, Funny

    Try searching for failure on google.

  98. Re:Return of Internet Keywords? by ravenshrike · · Score: 0

    It's all those skeet and trap discs they keep sending out everywhere.

  99. so what if you try nissan? by lingqi · · Score: 1

    Since nissan is Mr. Nissan and nissancars is the car company...

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  100. Safari hacks by jeriqo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    - Sogudi allows to do almost the same thing with safari, though it is a bit different.
    For example :

    goo monkeys : will search google for monkeys
    goo site:monkeys : will search the current site on google for monkeys
    babfr www.yahoo.fr : will translate yahoo.fr from French to English using babelfish, etc.

    All of this configurable, of course.

    - Acid Search enhances the Safari's google search button, by adding a drop menu, so you can have more search engines, including Google's "I'm Feeling Lucky" feature.

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  101. Glad they did, I wasn't feeling lucky by tod_miller · · Score: 1

    Projet gutenberg has a stupid domain. That is, I never knoew which one it is, and the design sucks, and is unrecognisable (non branded) and so I always take a few pot shots trying to find it.

    Googling doesn't help (or didn't) now I hope project gutenberg will take me to the real site.

    I guess slashdot should work in it. I say it is a good idea if it is in a seperate box, and DOESN'T take a search for 'orange' and take me to some mobile network site.

    Don't be evil Mr.Google.

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    1. Re:Glad they did, I wasn't feeling lucky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Projet gutenberg has a stupid domain. That is, I never knoew which one it is...

      http://gutenberg.org/ - is it really that hard to remember?

  102. Re:Old news, Mozilla/Netscape7 have bookmark keywo by stephanruby · · Score: 1

    Yep, this is actually true, I just tested it. It's too bad that the ie keyword search doesn't work as advertised thought.

  103. Not the same as what Firefox does by jesser · · Score: 1

    Firefox uses "I'm Feeling Lucky", which always goes straight to the first hit. IE with the Google Toolbar uses "Browse By Name", which only goes to the first hit when Google is sure the first hit is the correct one. Otherwise, it displays search results.

    You can make Firefox use "Browse By Name" by changing a hidden pref. Or you can make it use a normal Google search if you want.

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  104. That is so cool! :D by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 1

    I only recently found the 'about:cache' option. Where do I see a list of the lot?

  105. Change the record by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 1

    I've seen you post the exact same thing on other stories. You have already been debunked. The later version of firefox no longer has that issue.

    1. Re:Change the record by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=120633&cid=101 60827 http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=120633&cid=101 59834 http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=120633&cid=101 59811

    2. Re:Change the record by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 0, Troll

      Bunk! It still happens. You can stamp and scream and "blame the user" buy your "free software" is no bargain.

    3. Re:Change the record by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 1

      How would you know it still happens?

      For one, I am using the latest Firefox and it is not happening to me. You on the other hand appear to have gone back to IE.

      But as the other post points out, all you seem to post is the same bug over and over. A formatting bug (which as mentioned, appears not to happen to current firefox users).

      Why not post the bugs that allow you to..
      - Send a jpg in IE which will launch an exe
      - Move the IE scrollbar and open your machine to hacking.
      - Inject exploit that allows full access to your machine.

      Of course some of these require disabling a large amount of functionality of IE to protect yourself.

    4. Re:Change the record by luekj · · Score: 1

      i wish my workplace used the newer version; it's a bit hard to read slashdot while I'm on the clock.

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  106. Lost revenue? by Mean_Nishka · · Score: 1
    If I was a Google shareholder I would not like this feature! Why would Google design something to circumvent their source of revenue?

    I suppose it's the same as the 'I'm Feeling Lucky' button, but I have a feeling more people would use the keyword feature on their local browser.

  107. Humans, bah by Tei · · Score: 1

    The investors won't try to screw the customer at all costs, they will want whatever makes more money, and Google has proven that not screwing the customer can win

    You asume will use the logic, but most people is not rational, never deep think but react to stymulus in a animal-sque way.

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  108. Sounds like nothing to me by Laebshade · · Score: 1
    I am not a patent expert (IANaPE), but to me it seems like this describes any search engine. And how long has a search engine been in existence? Here's the full text for those who don't want to click the link:
    A universal electronic resource denotation, request and delivery system allows a user to locate information on a distributed computer system or network such as the Internet by knowing or guessing a short mnemonic alias of an electronic resource without the user having to know the physical or other location denotation such as the universal resource locator (URL) of the desired resource. The system hardware includes a client computer, a local server, a central registry server, a value added server, and a root server. The universal electronic resource denotation, request and delivery system supports a personal aliasing (nicknaming) feature, a universal resource accessing feature for finding location information such as URLs relating to a query term, a "see also" feature for including information about related documents or resources within the record of a resource, a feature for updating local servers and client machines by periodically deleting those records which have changed, a "try again" and "mirroring" feature for aiding a user in obtaining the resource under adverse hardware or software conditions, and an authentication and administration feature that allows a user to administer the aliases and related data which pertain to his/her resources.
  109. Mozilla/Firefox way by DVega · · Score: 1

    Edit prefs.js and add/replace

    user_pref("keyword.URL", "http://www.google.com/search?btnI=&q=");
    user_pr ef("keyword.enabled", true);

    Or you can enable this by using "about:config" URL

    Then go to the address bar and type: "news for nerds[Enter]"

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  110. Re:Return of Internet Keywords? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do people even bother typing out whole keywords anymore? I started watching how I browse the internet, and mostly it's just revisiting sites I've already visited before. This means that they are already in my URL auto-complete.

    To go to slashdot, I just use "sla" down arrow, enter. Works the same on Explorer and Firebird. I can revisit nearly all websites in 3 letters, down arrow, enter. Much easier than typing out whole names and comparable to using bookmarks.

    If I'm looking for a new website, this keyword thing is ok. But honestly, I would rather go to google or use the googlebar for "buy roses", because I want to pick my own florist, not just whomever owns the "buyroses.com" domain.

  111. IE, What's that by JPyObjC+Dude · · Score: 1

    Do some /.'ers actually still use IE?

    What kind of (bad) drugs are they smokin?

  112. Old feature by WndrBr3d · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    From the Google Toolbar version information:

    Version 2.0.112
    New! Browse by Name - save time by typing names instead of URLs in your browser's address bar

    Current version is 2.0.114. The browse by name feature has been in it for the last few months.

    Welcome to now.

  113. I've found alt-enter better by pdp0x14 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1. Type a keyword (or several) into the google toolbar
    2. hit alt-enter (shortcut to feeling lucky)

    I've experimented with this method and the newer one and I find the older one to be much more useful. The new method is less apt to give you a wrong page, but the old method turns out to be outstandingly accurate.

    The newer method never works with obscure websites, but the other one does very frequently. Try "cgnet" by both methods, for example.

    Another advantage to the alt-enter method is that you can get to the right internal links in one click. Try "ford explorer" both ways.

    BTW, the newer feature has been available since v2.0.113 (2004-07-30), so it's not exactly news.

  114. You guys are slow by Tajas · · Score: 0

    C'mon /., I noticed this like 2 weeks ago. I disabled this feature of the new google toolbar because I use 'search from address bar', ie: I type 'gg slashdot' to google for slashdot, you simply replace your search text with %s. This has been a feature of IE since IE5 with an add-on which puts "Quicksearch.exe" in your links folder, yet Microsoft did not officially supported it in IE6. I have noticed that the latest version of TweakUI XP has it under "Internet Explorer ->Search".

    Any other ol' skool guys out there remember these? How about Kernel Toys and Power Toys for Win 95, they still work all the way up to XP! I love the Target function you can add to context menu for shortcuts, saves trip to Props then Find Target.

    I wonder if Microsoft will start incorporating these old functions into Longhorn (dibs on credit if they do).