The fact is, Libraries are a bastion of "I'm okay, you're okay" philosophy. They don't give a rats ass if your kid views porn and in many cases support their "right" to do so. Notice in all the objections I've heard, never do they seem to offer a solution to kids surfing porn in the library. Guess what, until you offer a good solution you're stuck with filters. As the father of a teen and pre-teen, I don't want my kids looking at Ron Jeremy on a libraries PC. If surfing porn at the library is okay, then why aren't they fighting the right to stock Hustler? Because they know they couldn't win. There is a sick element out their who think kids having sex is a good thing. Hey, I was a teen and I know at some point they're going to start but the library, where my tax dollars go, should NOT be it.
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Everyone is making excellent points about how great the technology is at what it is designed to do. Bluetooth suffers from a very simple problem. Implementation. I've heard about Bluetooth for some 4 years now. Like VoIP maybe it just needs time. The difference is, bluetooth is for personal tech-toys, unlike VoIP. So it's likely to die before widespread acceptance can give it life. I don't own a single bluetooth enabled device for two reasons: a) it inflates the cost of whatever it's built into and b) it inflates the cost of whatever it's built into. Thus keeping me from buying two devices.:)
Look, it may be great, the bomb, the mad-note, all of the above. But if you have to go find it or worse, wait for the great new PDA you really like to come with bluetooth, it's useless technology. Technology unused. Make it ubiquitous, like WiFi and it will live. Don't, and it's a hairless cat. Neat to look at...neat to tell your cat-loving friends you have one...but without a pair you've only got it till it dies...and it will.
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Hey, while they may have a huge part of the markets in some cities, they hardly monopolize. Of the 17000 or so stations nationwide, they own like around 1400 of them. Oooooo better call the anti-trust lawyers...oooo SCARY! Compare that to M$ monopoly. People pick on Clear Channel for one reason, Glen Beck started advertising the Pro American Rallyes. And they were started grassroots and originally from non-Clear Channel stations. If the left has something that can compete put it on the air. Let's have both sides. This measure allows for no more than 8 stations in markets of 40 or more stations. It's not a bad thing.
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The real question is when are we going to see quality X rated games. With engines like those running UT and NWN, not to mention the great artwork, one would expect more that cyber equivalents to paperdolls.
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I hate these things. I only buy products with rebates when the before price is right. I avoid them mostly and think everyone should. The lure of the after price is to get you there. It's almost a bait and switch. But they'll keep doing it as long as it works.
Hmmm...a key is leaked. Server 2003 no doubt has "ET Phone Home" technology. What if...what if that technology collects IP addresses from "leaked" keys, sends them back to M$ and they simply pass them on to the BSA and 6 months from now we hear of a "major piracy bust" across the globe! Hmmmm
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This, in my mind, is part and parcelof Caldera's desperate attempt at staying relevant. Much the way France is using the UN to stay relevant. The only thing that makes Caldera relevant to me is the fact that they employ Linux folk. Were it not for that, they could quietly fade into non-existense and ethically should. They buy up all this IP and sit on it for years until they are in such urgent need for money that they pull something like this. This is a kin to extortion. You think they give a rats ass that IBM is sharing information? No. They need money. Legally, there's nothing wrong with that. But we all know it's dirty pool. This could all very well backfire on them. I think it just might. In fact, I predict that Caldera will eventually be sold off or at least sell off various parts of itself.
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I thought they were not selling these to the general public yet. Rather, only to business and municipalities and such.
If not, then perhaps they should try something that all the cool businesses are doing nowadays: ADVERTISE! MARKETING!
BTW: I said when I first saw this thing that it was not going to be a big hit. It's a scooter! Yes, it is probably the most revolutionary scooter. Yes, it is cool technology. Yes, it would be neat to own won. But it's still a $3K+ scooter!
The general public will not get past that. Replace the car? Hardly! Joe Dirt has no where to carry his case of Bud.
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I am not comfortable with MS at Open Source events at all. I think there is this attitude of "free speech" that is a bit misplaced. MS has no shortage of avenues to speak. They blitz the media and anyone who'll listen. They have deeper pockets than we do, which is evidenced by their very presence in Linux magazines as well as at events. It's one thing to have an MS ad in Linux Magazine given that such advertising dollars keep the rag alive. Given them an open forum to speak to, and even to give them equal time at an even to potential Linux customers is dangerous. Yes, I feel we can compete equally but that assumes that there are rules being adhered to. Don't forget that these are the Al Queida of the software world. They've declared a jihad on Open Source. We can all sit around and hold hands and say "Let the fanatics speak, they're people too." Yet, no one is saying they can't speak. They are saying don't bring them into our strategy sessions and into our marketing events. They want Linux dead! They don't want to compete. They are not here to find out how they can co-exist. They are trying to find weaknesses. They are looking for a way to disrupt us. No one is censuring them, they're simply saying "You're not welcome here." Why shouldn't this be allowed?
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I believe in RedHat. I own their stock. I buy (yes, actually purchase) their products. But the decision to EOL 7.3 and 8.0 is nonsense. This when 8.1 isn't out of BETA. This IS very MS-like and I have no problem saying so. Yet, this seems to be the norm among some Linux companies: The compulsion to mimmick MS as opposed to standing out. Caldera/SCO/UnitedLinux has been doing similar things with their licensing schemes. When are these companies going to realize that to be an alternative to MS you have to stand out? "A little bit different" frankly isn't enough.
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We have a "Scorpion and Frog" story brewing here. The Mono Project is basically a case of flirting with disaster. "No guys, it's okay! He's a nice fire-breathing dragon now! He wants to play nice!"
Yeah right...
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Let's see, by saying she's leaving now they gain the publicity they want and put a "softer" face on the organization. By making it effective at the end of the year, they get to continue the very behavior that got them the bad publicity in the first place. If anyone throws up signals they can say, "Hey, we're getting rid of her this year!"
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The sad thing is I like SCO OpenServer. I ditched Caldera primarily due to poor support and a seemingly "go away, ya bother me" attitude. Then all the licensing hooplah. Not this? Someone must plan on profitting from their failure. This is just rediculous. Evidently Randsome Love is not too far removed from SCO or he's clean and it was someone else in the company all along. This, in mind opinion, also taints United Linux.
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When the Segway Revolution hits (sarcasm? smell it?) then everyone will own one. This position will change because the politicians' constituents will all own one.
Frankly, when I saw the Segway I thought "This is it?" I mean, yes it's an engineering feat. It's revolutionary in design and function but it's hardly the "transportation revolution" that it was touted to be. Here we are a couple of years later and I've yet to see one in the wild. The thought that this contraption was going to make us all ditch our cars, our bikes, our Nike's and ride off down a yellow-bricked road singing Judy Garland songs was far more a way for the inventor to extract VC than it was a prediction of the future.
Like HDTV, until your local redneck can afford to ride one down to the local Kroger to buy his beer, this will never fly. But even more importantly, not enough people will want one.
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I think where RH makes the bulk of it's money is services. You take a large client who's lived in a MS-centric world and give them RH and it's going to take time to understand what the distro is all about. Most of these companies are going to want to buy some support and have someone at their backon call to answer problems. I know I personally would love to have such an arrangement as there are things that I would love to ask. As an individual, it's expensive for me but as a company, RH Advanced Server and some support contracts would still be cheaper than W2K Advanced Server and a MS contract.
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OH brother. This is so far off as to be laughable. Just look at this parent! HDTV's came out and the bleed-edgers bought it. Now they are basically useless without a box because standards change. Analogue will not go away until Joe Dirt can stagger out of his double-wide and get one for the same price as his old TV. This is who Budweiser sells to. Bud pays ABC, NBC, CBS's bills. I've had friends tell me "Oh, you won't have a choice! You might as well get an HDTV-ready set now!" That's a crock. We have time, people. The analog sky is not falling. Yes, I would agree it's going to happen. Just later, not sooner.
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The fact is, Libraries are a bastion of "I'm okay, you're okay" philosophy. They don't give a rats ass if your kid views porn and in many cases support their "right" to do so. Notice in all the objections I've heard, never do they seem to offer a solution to kids surfing porn in the library. Guess what, until you offer a good solution you're stuck with filters. As the father of a teen and pre-teen, I don't want my kids looking at Ron Jeremy on a libraries PC. If surfing porn at the library is okay, then why aren't they fighting the right to stock Hustler? Because they know they couldn't win. There is a sick element out their who think kids having sex is a good thing. Hey, I was a teen and I know at some point they're going to start but the library, where my tax dollars go, should NOT be it. >
Didn't SCO themselves say that "patents didn't matter, it's the contracts stupid" recently when their patents were called into question? >
Hmmm $600 for a handheld? No..that couldn't be it.... >
Everyone is making excellent points about how great the technology is at what it is designed to do. Bluetooth suffers from a very simple problem. Implementation. I've heard about Bluetooth for some 4 years now. Like VoIP maybe it just needs time. The difference is, bluetooth is for personal tech-toys, unlike VoIP. So it's likely to die before widespread acceptance can give it life. I don't own a single bluetooth enabled device for two reasons: a) it inflates the cost of whatever it's built into and b) it inflates the cost of whatever it's built into. Thus keeping me from buying two devices. :)
Look, it may be great, the bomb, the mad-note, all of the above. But if you have to go find it or worse, wait for the great new PDA you really like to come with bluetooth, it's useless technology. Technology unused. Make it ubiquitous, like WiFi and it will live. Don't, and it's a hairless cat. Neat to look at...neat to tell your cat-loving friends you have one...but without a pair you've only got it till it dies...and it will.
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Hey, while they may have a huge part of the markets in some cities, they hardly monopolize. Of the 17000 or so stations nationwide, they own like around 1400 of them. Oooooo better call the anti-trust lawyers...oooo SCARY! Compare that to M$ monopoly. People pick on Clear Channel for one reason, Glen Beck started advertising the Pro American Rallyes. And they were started grassroots and originally from non-Clear Channel stations. If the left has something that can compete put it on the air. Let's have both sides. This measure allows for no more than 8 stations in markets of 40 or more stations. It's not a bad thing. >
Perhaps they are waiting for the stock to drop some more. It would solve a lot of problems for sure. >
I'm just glad to see that Java will ship with RH! Maybe now we can have plugins already hooked. >
someone hasn't been "offended" by this yet is beyond me! >
The real question is when are we going to see quality X rated games. With engines like those running UT and NWN, not to mention the great artwork, one would expect more that cyber equivalents to paperdolls. >
Momma says rebates are of the devil!
I hate these things. I only buy products with rebates when the before price is right. I avoid them mostly and think everyone should. The lure of the after price is to get you there. It's almost a bait and switch. But they'll keep doing it as long as it works.
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Hmmm...a key is leaked. Server 2003 no doubt has "ET Phone Home" technology. What if...what if that technology collects IP addresses from "leaked" keys, sends them back to M$ and they simply pass them on to the BSA and 6 months from now we hear of a "major piracy bust" across the globe! Hmmmm >
Yeah, MS wants to destroy Google and Ximian thinks they can put all this effort into MONO and not have to pay the piper someday? >
Wow! That should piss off, what, 10-20 people?! >
I've always liked this movie. "Little people need big names to give them weight!" >
This, in my mind, is part and parcelof Caldera's desperate attempt at staying relevant. Much the way France is using the UN to stay relevant. The only thing that makes Caldera relevant to me is the fact that they employ Linux folk. Were it not for that, they could quietly fade into non-existense and ethically should. They buy up all this IP and sit on it for years until they are in such urgent need for money that they pull something like this. This is a kin to extortion. You think they give a rats ass that IBM is sharing information? No. They need money. Legally, there's nothing wrong with that. But we all know it's dirty pool. This could all very well backfire on them. I think it just might. In fact, I predict that Caldera will eventually be sold off or at least sell off various parts of itself. >
I thought they were not selling these to the general public yet. Rather, only to business and municipalities and such. If not, then perhaps they should try something that all the cool businesses are doing nowadays: ADVERTISE! MARKETING! BTW: I said when I first saw this thing that it was not going to be a big hit. It's a scooter! Yes, it is probably the most revolutionary scooter. Yes, it is cool technology. Yes, it would be neat to own won. But it's still a $3K+ scooter! The general public will not get past that. Replace the car? Hardly! Joe Dirt has no where to carry his case of Bud. >
I am not comfortable with MS at Open Source events at all. I think there is this attitude of "free speech" that is a bit misplaced. MS has no shortage of avenues to speak. They blitz the media and anyone who'll listen. They have deeper pockets than we do, which is evidenced by their very presence in Linux magazines as well as at events. It's one thing to have an MS ad in Linux Magazine given that such advertising dollars keep the rag alive. Given them an open forum to speak to, and even to give them equal time at an even to potential Linux customers is dangerous. Yes, I feel we can compete equally but that assumes that there are rules being adhered to. Don't forget that these are the Al Queida of the software world. They've declared a jihad on Open Source. We can all sit around and hold hands and say "Let the fanatics speak, they're people too." Yet, no one is saying they can't speak. They are saying don't bring them into our strategy sessions and into our marketing events. They want Linux dead! They don't want to compete. They are not here to find out how they can co-exist. They are trying to find weaknesses. They are looking for a way to disrupt us. No one is censuring them, they're simply saying "You're not welcome here." Why shouldn't this be allowed? >
Here you can find that MS has extended support for NT4.0. So much for keeping up with the Gates! >
I believe in RedHat. I own their stock. I buy (yes, actually purchase) their products. But the decision to EOL 7.3 and 8.0 is nonsense. This when 8.1 isn't out of BETA. This IS very MS-like and I have no problem saying so. Yet, this seems to be the norm among some Linux companies: The compulsion to mimmick MS as opposed to standing out. Caldera/SCO/UnitedLinux has been doing similar things with their licensing schemes. When are these companies going to realize that to be an alternative to MS you have to stand out? "A little bit different" frankly isn't enough. >
We have a "Scorpion and Frog" story brewing here. The Mono Project is basically a case of flirting with disaster. "No guys, it's okay! He's a nice fire-breathing dragon now! He wants to play nice!" Yeah right... >
Let's see, by saying she's leaving now they gain the publicity they want and put a "softer" face on the organization. By making it effective at the end of the year, they get to continue the very behavior that got them the bad publicity in the first place. If anyone throws up signals they can say, "Hey, we're getting rid of her this year!" >
The sad thing is I like SCO OpenServer. I ditched Caldera primarily due to poor support and a seemingly "go away, ya bother me" attitude. Then all the licensing hooplah. Not this? Someone must plan on profitting from their failure. This is just rediculous. Evidently Randsome Love is not too far removed from SCO or he's clean and it was someone else in the company all along. This, in mind opinion, also taints United Linux. >
When the Segway Revolution hits (sarcasm? smell it?) then everyone will own one. This position will change because the politicians' constituents will all own one. Frankly, when I saw the Segway I thought "This is it?" I mean, yes it's an engineering feat. It's revolutionary in design and function but it's hardly the "transportation revolution" that it was touted to be. Here we are a couple of years later and I've yet to see one in the wild. The thought that this contraption was going to make us all ditch our cars, our bikes, our Nike's and ride off down a yellow-bricked road singing Judy Garland songs was far more a way for the inventor to extract VC than it was a prediction of the future. Like HDTV, until your local redneck can afford to ride one down to the local Kroger to buy his beer, this will never fly. But even more importantly, not enough people will want one. >
I think where RH makes the bulk of it's money is services. You take a large client who's lived in a MS-centric world and give them RH and it's going to take time to understand what the distro is all about. Most of these companies are going to want to buy some support and have someone at their backon call to answer problems. I know I personally would love to have such an arrangement as there are things that I would love to ask. As an individual, it's expensive for me but as a company, RH Advanced Server and some support contracts would still be cheaper than W2K Advanced Server and a MS contract. >
OH brother. This is so far off as to be laughable. Just look at this parent! HDTV's came out and the bleed-edgers bought it. Now they are basically useless without a box because standards change. Analogue will not go away until Joe Dirt can stagger out of his double-wide and get one for the same price as his old TV. This is who Budweiser sells to. Bud pays ABC, NBC, CBS's bills. I've had friends tell me "Oh, you won't have a choice! You might as well get an HDTV-ready set now!" That's a crock. We have time, people. The analog sky is not falling. Yes, I would agree it's going to happen. Just later, not sooner. >