Give me your name, address, social security number, and credit card number, then have him send me his name and address and I will send him a cookie on your behalf!
I have respect for Klines actions on this issue, they were well explained and obvious if you were in a position where you could receive more flak for letting the material through.
This was not the library purchasing material, it was material being dispersed by the government as part of a settlement.
The government was not censoring free speech, because it was not removing materials from a library, it was dispersing materials to a library based on criteria which it set.
Its just people are not liking the criteria much, and neither do I... Hell I was listening to 96.5 the buzz which does craploads of objectionable material music.
I actually have a lot of respect for Kline whose department restricted the discs. (I live in Kansas)
I listen to a local radio station called 96.5 the buzz, and every friday they do a "current events" day, where people call in.
Well, people started to call in about the CD's incident and bashing it for censorship.
Then a really weird thing happened, the two Junior DJ's got a call from Phill Kline. They did an on the spot interview on why he was censoring them.
I guess what it came down to was that his general rule was
"If the CD has a track that is about violence against women, or the degredation of women, and promotes youth violence then the entire CD needs to be removed"
He said that he supported his staff, because it would look worse for him to allow CD's that had violence in them, than to allow them through.
Since his department was responsible for handling the donations, they were responsible for the content, unlike a situation where the Library system was responsible.
I think this is a good case of Covering his ass, espeically in an environment where everyone is hunting for some moral reason to remove someone, instead of taking factors such as freedom of speech into play etc.
The problem is, I am not as good as explaining his position as he was, and so this is probably going to recieve some replies that were answered well by him in the interview, but I am doing my best to explain where he was coming from.
He did what he felt was important, since this was an issue of a dispersment which he was responsible for.
Anyone got suggestions for software to convert.avi files to a DVD. I have a PVR card on my PC and I want to watch them on my TV (in another room) and I do not have something I can burn them to a DVD-RW.
I do not want to make a VCD because I record at High Resolutions, and the VCD always seems to skip funny, and I cant re-write them.
EECS700 II at the University of Kansas deals a lot with breaking into security systems from a practical manner. Though we had to sign a document saying that we would not use the skills we were learning to break into the campus network on risk of Failing the class and possibly being removed from school entirely.
The entire class revolved around installing Linux on machines, and then securing them as well as possible with a weekly or bi weekly evaluation of the computers defences. (IE if we hadnt shored up the machine to a specific attack we would lose points).
It was a very interesting class, and has kept me interested in network computer security.
(remember, if all else fails put a little PAM on it!)
The password would be for the main key itself, you could change it every time you went out if you liked.
The idea would be to have a roaming dongle that if you lost it would be unlikely anyone would be able to crack it.
If you were smart with where you went and what you put on the dongle you wouldnt have to worry to much. THis is for roaming browsing and casual file downloads, not company secure data.
No, he does not. Actually he spins much of it, and you must remember, Moore doesnt like things that Clinton did, so you have to ignore all the "facts are right but bill clinton did"
There are a few places he is correct, but they are few and far between.
There are several places where he completely misrepresents what Moore was obviously trying to say, sometimes saying "Bush did not do this" when Moore did not say that Bush specifically did an action, he was referring to Bush + Friends, and implying the Bush represents his friends. So you have to determine for yourself, does Bush help his friends out? I think he does, so i think where he says those things he is incorrect.
Much of what Dave Kopel does is similar to what Moore does, except as a Critisism of Moore. Much similar to saying "You much also choose who you beleive frequently, unless you have no job, dont need to sleep, and dont have any needs of friends" could be spun that it might assume that I in fact might meet some of those criteria.
For example, it leaves out the possiblility that I get 6 hours of sleep every night, and while at work I often have to execute programs that take system resources that need only slight monitoring while i go read slashdot and reply to posts for a couple minutes.
Moore does quite a lot of lying by implication, but you can take it on fact that everywhere Kopel says "Moores facts are straight but the deciet lies that he said this, or clinton does this" you can completely ignore, because they actually have nothing to do with the movie, and are just personal attacks on Moore or Clinton and have no other factual abilities themselves.
In fact, if you want help finding out what is blatantly wrong you should read
that is much better. Most of Kopel stuff is wrong except where it intersects with the msnbc article posted. Also, the many of the sources Kopel used for his evidence against Moore, are from books or sources where the people are EXACTLY LIKE THE REPUBLICAN versions of M.Moore. Or more concisely, M.MOORE is a version of them.
The only thing I would be wary at in the msnbc article is the carlyle group aspect. Remember, Moore was attacking Bush + Friends in the Carlyle Group, and saying that Bush was influenced by members of the Carlyle Group extensively for political reasons, and not the direct benefit for himself in monetary terms. Which is a deciet in both the kopel and the msnbc report.
Good Job, you Justified just about every bias the left has for the Right.
See, the left wing is all about being "open minded" and "reading all points of view"
Unlike you, I watched the movie, then I read multiple sites on it that were against the movie, to determine if moore was outright lying or not. I saw those sites take things out of context as well.
The right wing has a completely different view.
They have a small group (hannity, limbah, kopel) etc... that TELL the rest of the people what they can and cant watch and still be good right wing people.
So, because davekopel told you it was crap, it must be true?
Amen Brother. I have read multiple web sites, I even admit there are many errors of implication in the movie. Unlike you, I swallowed it and went to read sites that were against the movie, because I like to be informed, I like to know what I am talking about instead regurgitating what someone told me was right.
You Sir are a moutpeice for someone who you do not know you can trust, you didnt see the movie, so you dont know if he was telling the truth about it or not, you take it on faith. I do not take it on faith, as a Christian the only person I take on faith is GOD, and when Limbah, Kopel, Hannity etc become GOD, I too will take them on faith.
I am glad you have a religious zeal toward the opinions of these individuals, and I think everyone has to beleive in something. Being an American, I also recognize your freedom of religion but I also disagree with it.
I actually had the idea while working with special USB encryption devices.
Would it be an interesting and novel concept to have a key that allows you to plug it into a pub terminal (with appropriate package) that allows you to have your user profile and preferences on it?
IE you could buy USB device/key, set up your desktop environment on it, and then be able to carry it around with you from terminal to terminal. Perhaps keeping the general windows user structure on the key (IE my documents/mypictures folders).
This way you could keep files and such, and if the password you entered in the login screen was also the password which opened the key, you could keep it secure as well.
When you downloaded you could only download to your KEY or a temp folder on the hard drive which would be immediately deleted after you logged off.
If the keys had sufficient on-board memory, say 256 megs, you could get a goodly amount of documents/cookies/cached images on it etc...
People could also buy bigger keys just for this purpose.
I think it would be a great idea.
I also have a few other ideas with portable keys, but this one seems kind of obvious to me.
You should go watch the movie, or at least the part where it showed Bush sitting around looking like a monkey for 7 minutes.
He is not actually reading the book with the children, he is glancing at it and looking around nervously for 7 minutes trying to decide what to do.
I actually left my computer open on vacation once, to find that the wires had been chewed through the fan on my video card.
I repaired it with some solder and an extra peice of wire, but it scared the crap out of me. And I had to clean the mouse turds and other shit out of the computer as well.
You probably havent seen the movie, he was talking about the second plane attack, and it was incredibly embarrasing as an American to see the man sitting there like a confused monkey for 7 minutes.
If you have not seen the movie, you would frame your opinion like that. If you have seen the movie, then you are deluding yourself if you think like that.
It would be noted, that one of the main anti F 911 sites, that sites the "56 deciets" of the movie in many places say "this is a fact, but clinton was bad too" which is not a counter argument for the movie.
I love how they attack clinton, when moore was just as fond of attacking him as well, and actually supported nader in 2000.
It is like a child that says "well he was talking too" when caught talking in class.
It still does not make you any more right for having done it.
Unfortunately if someone were to ask "if bush jumped off a bridge would you"
Unfortunately, they ask this question while they are half way to the ground already and the guy goes "hmm I didnt think of it like.... " splat.
Your definition of patriotism is actually nationalism, there is a very big difference.
Nationalism is the beleif that your nation is right above all others, patriotism is the love for your country expressed.
Moore expresses the love for his country in a very meaninfull way. He created a documentary which describes what he thinks is wrong with the government in an effort to change that.
You can find very few people, you included, who have gone to the efforts that Micheal Moore has to bring what he beleives is injustice to light.
In fact, that by definition makes Micheal Moore one of the most patriotic people in America.
What you beleive is Nationalism, which is patriotism expressed as "My nation is right."
Unfortunately many people have been fooled into thinking that our President and his political party represent America, so your Nationalism is represented by your support of these groups with your patriotism.
Many people tend to forget that the most patriotic men, the founders of our country, railed heartily against our government for many of the same reasons. The only difference between their actions and the actions of Micheal Moore, is that M.Moore exists in a system where the Govt. can be altered to his point of view if he can convince enough people. The great thing about America is that we do not need revolutions for this kind of thing.
So, saying that Micheal Moore is a patriot, and that he loves America is a patently true statement, by any logical definition. Though you would be right if you argued that Micheal Moore is not a Nationalist, so, if you beleive Nationalism = Patriotism, then you would be correct. But the definitions of each would put error to your belief.
Annendum:
I use the main definition of patriotism which is the expression of love for ones country.
And a common second definition of Nationalism which is the beleif that your country is right above all others. Also to clarify, I also beleive some feel that our President and his party are the "country" and those that disagree with them disagree with the "country"
I worked for a company that used BHO for token key authentication.
You would go to a secure site, and the site would would trigger the BHO which would then initiate communication between the site and the token. AFter the site verified that the token was legitimate (using AES encryption) then the site would send encrypted data which the BHO would use the key and transform the data before it made it to your browser window.
At no time would data be unencrypted until it got to the browser.
Now, we could have done it a better way I guess, but I was an intern at the time and I was being used as cheap labour to see if the concept would work.
No, he has argued that you cant enforce them suing for breach of contract, which is the correct interpretation of the law.
The argument that the plaintiffs did not read the privacy statement is the best defence.
If the plaintiffs had said they read the statement, and then relied on that statement as a condition required to use the service, then they would have had a case.
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Give me your name, address, social security number, and credit card number, then have him send me his name and address and I will send him a cookie on your behalf!
I have respect for Klines actions on this issue, they were well explained and obvious if you were in a position where you could receive more flak for letting the material through.
This was not the library purchasing material, it was material being dispersed by the government as part of a settlement.
The government was not censoring free speech, because it was not removing materials from a library, it was dispersing materials to a library based on criteria which it set.
Its just people are not liking the criteria much, and neither do I... Hell I was listening to 96.5 the buzz which does craploads of objectionable material music.
I actually have a lot of respect for Kline whose department restricted the discs. (I live in Kansas)
I listen to a local radio station called 96.5 the buzz, and every friday they do a "current events" day, where people call in.
Well, people started to call in about the CD's incident and bashing it for censorship.
Then a really weird thing happened, the two Junior DJ's got a call from Phill Kline. They did an on the spot interview on why he was censoring them.
I guess what it came down to was that his general rule was
"If the CD has a track that is about violence against women, or the degredation of women, and promotes youth violence then the entire CD needs to be removed"
He said that he supported his staff, because it would look worse for him to allow CD's that had violence in them, than to allow them through.
Since his department was responsible for handling the donations, they were responsible for the content, unlike a situation where the Library system was responsible.
I think this is a good case of Covering his ass, espeically in an environment where everyone is hunting for some moral reason to remove someone, instead of taking factors such as freedom of speech into play etc.
The problem is, I am not as good as explaining his position as he was, and so this is probably going to recieve some replies that were answered well by him in the interview, but I am doing my best to explain where he was coming from.
He did what he felt was important, since this was an issue of a dispersment which he was responsible for.
Ok, so the ULEAD studio I have that came with my DVD writer should do the trick?
Anyone got suggestions for software to convert .avi files to a DVD. I have a PVR card on my PC and I want to watch them on my TV (in another room) and I do not have something I can burn them to a DVD-RW.
I do not want to make a VCD because I record at High Resolutions, and the VCD always seems to skip funny, and I cant re-write them.
Ditto, comes in ebony, ivory, green, and pinstripe!
EECS700 II at the University of Kansas deals a lot with breaking into security systems from a practical manner. Though we had to sign a document saying that we would not use the skills we were learning to break into the campus network on risk of Failing the class and possibly being removed from school entirely.
The entire class revolved around installing Linux on machines, and then securing them as well as possible with a weekly or bi weekly evaluation of the computers defences. (IE if we hadnt shored up the machine to a specific attack we would lose points).
It was a very interesting class, and has kept me interested in network computer security.
(remember, if all else fails put a little PAM on it!)
The password would be for the main key itself, you could change it every time you went out if you liked.
The idea would be to have a roaming dongle that if you lost it would be unlikely anyone would be able to crack it.
If you were smart with where you went and what you put on the dongle you wouldnt have to worry to much. THis is for roaming browsing and casual file downloads, not company secure data.
No, he does not. Actually he spins much of it, and you must remember, Moore doesnt like things that Clinton did, so you have to ignore all the "facts are right but bill clinton did"
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There are a few places he is correct, but they are few and far between.
There are several places where he completely misrepresents what Moore was obviously trying to say, sometimes saying "Bush did not do this" when Moore did not say that Bush specifically did an action, he was referring to Bush + Friends, and implying the Bush represents his friends. So you have to determine for yourself, does Bush help his friends out? I think he does, so i think where he says those things he is incorrect.
Much of what Dave Kopel does is similar to what Moore does, except as a Critisism of Moore. Much similar to saying "You much also choose who you beleive frequently, unless you have no job, dont need to sleep, and dont have any needs of friends" could be spun that it might assume that I in fact might meet some of those criteria.
For example, it leaves out the possiblility that I get 6 hours of sleep every night, and while at work I often have to execute programs that take system resources that need only slight monitoring while i go read slashdot and reply to posts for a couple minutes.
Moore does quite a lot of lying by implication, but you can take it on fact that everywhere Kopel says "Moores facts are straight but the deciet lies that he said this, or clinton does this" you can completely ignore, because they actually have nothing to do with the movie, and are just personal attacks on Moore or Clinton and have no other factual abilities themselves.
In fact, if you want help finding out what is blatantly wrong you should read
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5335853/site/newswe
that is much better. Most of Kopel stuff is wrong except where it intersects with the msnbc article posted. Also, the many of the sources Kopel used for his evidence against Moore, are from books or sources where the people are EXACTLY LIKE THE REPUBLICAN versions of M.Moore. Or more concisely, M.MOORE is a version of them.
The only thing I would be wary at in the msnbc article is the carlyle group aspect. Remember, Moore was attacking Bush + Friends in the Carlyle Group, and saying that Bush was influenced by members of the Carlyle Group extensively for political reasons, and not the direct benefit for himself in monetary terms. Which is a deciet in both the kopel and the msnbc report.
Good Job, you Justified just about every bias the left has for the Right.
See, the left wing is all about being "open minded" and "reading all points of view"
Unlike you, I watched the movie, then I read multiple sites on it that were against the movie, to determine if moore was outright lying or not. I saw those sites take things out of context as well.
The right wing has a completely different view.
They have a small group (hannity, limbah, kopel) etc... that TELL the rest of the people what they can and cant watch and still be good right wing people.
So, because davekopel told you it was crap, it must be true?
Amen Brother. I have read multiple web sites, I even admit there are many errors of implication in the movie. Unlike you, I swallowed it and went to read sites that were against the movie, because I like to be informed, I like to know what I am talking about instead regurgitating what someone told me was right.
You Sir are a moutpeice for someone who you do not know you can trust, you didnt see the movie, so you dont know if he was telling the truth about it or not, you take it on faith. I do not take it on faith, as a Christian the only person I take on faith is GOD, and when Limbah, Kopel, Hannity etc become GOD, I too will take them on faith.
I am glad you have a religious zeal toward the opinions of these individuals, and I think everyone has to beleive in something. Being an American, I also recognize your freedom of religion but I also disagree with it.
I actually had the idea while working with special USB encryption devices.
Would it be an interesting and novel concept to have a key that allows you to plug it into a pub terminal (with appropriate package) that allows you to have your user profile and preferences on it?
IE you could buy USB device/key, set up your desktop environment on it, and then be able to carry it around with you from terminal to terminal. Perhaps keeping the general windows user structure on the key (IE my documents/mypictures folders).
This way you could keep files and such, and if the password you entered in the login screen was also the password which opened the key, you could keep it secure as well.
When you downloaded you could only download to your KEY or a temp folder on the hard drive which would be immediately deleted after you logged off.
If the keys had sufficient on-board memory, say 256 megs, you could get a goodly amount of documents/cookies/cached images on it etc...
People could also buy bigger keys just for this purpose.
I think it would be a great idea.
I also have a few other ideas with portable keys, but this one seems kind of obvious to me.
You should watch the film, that way you wont sound so stupid, because you would not be making those remarks.
Like i said, you need to watch the movie rather than look like a retard like you are right now.
You should go watch the movie, or at least the part where it showed Bush sitting around looking like a monkey for 7 minutes. He is not actually reading the book with the children, he is glancing at it and looking around nervously for 7 minutes trying to decide what to do.
I actually left my computer open on vacation once, to find that the wires had been chewed through the fan on my video card.
I repaired it with some solder and an extra peice of wire, but it scared the crap out of me. And I had to clean the mouse turds and other shit out of the computer as well.
You probably havent seen the movie, he was talking about the second plane attack, and it was incredibly embarrasing as an American to see the man sitting there like a confused monkey for 7 minutes.
If you have not seen the movie, you would frame your opinion like that. If you have seen the movie, then you are deluding yourself if you think like that.
It would be noted, that one of the main anti F 911 sites, that sites the "56 deciets" of the movie in many places say "this is a fact, but clinton was bad too" which is not a counter argument for the movie.
I love how they attack clinton, when moore was just as fond of attacking him as well, and actually supported nader in 2000.
It is like a child that says "well he was talking too" when caught talking in class.
It still does not make you any more right for having done it.
Unfortunately if someone were to ask "if bush jumped off a bridge would you"
Unfortunately, they ask this question while they are half way to the ground already and the guy goes "hmm I didnt think of it like.... " splat.
Your definition of patriotism is actually nationalism, there is a very big difference.
Nationalism is the beleif that your nation is right above all others, patriotism is the love for your country expressed.
Moore expresses the love for his country in a very meaninfull way. He created a documentary which describes what he thinks is wrong with the government in an effort to change that.
You can find very few people, you included, who have gone to the efforts that Micheal Moore has to bring what he beleives is injustice to light.
In fact, that by definition makes Micheal Moore one of the most patriotic people in America.
What you beleive is Nationalism, which is patriotism expressed as "My nation is right."
Unfortunately many people have been fooled into thinking that our President and his political party represent America, so your Nationalism is represented by your support of these groups with your patriotism.
Many people tend to forget that the most patriotic men, the founders of our country, railed heartily against our government for many of the same reasons. The only difference between their actions and the actions of Micheal Moore, is that M.Moore exists in a system where the Govt. can be altered to his point of view if he can convince enough people. The great thing about America is that we do not need revolutions for this kind of thing.
So, saying that Micheal Moore is a patriot, and that he loves America is a patently true statement, by any logical definition. Though you would be right if you argued that Micheal Moore is not a Nationalist, so, if you beleive Nationalism = Patriotism, then you would be correct. But the definitions of each would put error to your belief.
Annendum:
I use the main definition of patriotism which is the expression of love for ones country.
And a common second definition of Nationalism which is the beleif that your country is right above all others. Also to clarify, I also beleive some feel that our President and his party are the "country" and those that disagree with them disagree with the "country"
Buzz_Litebeer, Extreme Moderate.
If it is on a postcard they can.
Which is what Email is. Like a electronic post card.
Now if you use a caesar cypher on your postcard messages, then you can claim you meant to keep it secret
I worked for a company that used BHO for token key authentication. You would go to a secure site, and the site would would trigger the BHO which would then initiate communication between the site and the token. AFter the site verified that the token was legitimate (using AES encryption) then the site would send encrypted data which the BHO would use the key and transform the data before it made it to your browser window. At no time would data be unencrypted until it got to the browser. Now, we could have done it a better way I guess, but I was an intern at the time and I was being used as cheap labour to see if the concept would work.
Thats because people that violate or sit on the fringe of the law, dont really care WHAT they do to you.
Thats like going to the cops to sue your drug dealer because he decided to not give you drugs.
I know I know, same old thing.
I am a DBS and do this work every day, and I was about to thrash you to the earth with what you typed.
Then I read it was all a joke! Man, thats better than an april fools joke.
let it get as "close" to finished as you can, then stop the torrent.
I do not know what causes this problem, but what I let it do is start downloading until it get right up to the last bit letf, then I stop the torrent.
it is usually good at this point and you can use it.
No, he has argued that you cant enforce them suing for breach of contract, which is the correct interpretation of the law.
The argument that the plaintiffs did not read the privacy statement is the best defence.
If the plaintiffs had said they read the statement, and then relied on that statement as a condition required to use the service, then they would have had a case.
Actually, 96.5 the buzz in kansas city is a great radio station, the DJ in the afternoon is really very excellent.
If I follow your analogy, then what they should do to spammers, is punish the people, the advertisers, that use spam...
I completely agree!
Sue the guys that are benefiting from the spam, then the spammers wont have any customers.